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Transcript Krista Tippett, host: Alain de Botton’s essay “Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person” is one of the most-read articles in The New York Times of recent years, and this is one of the most popular episodes we’ve ever created. As people and as a culture, he says, we would be much saner and happier if we reexamined our very view of love. I’m glad to offer up the anchoring truths he tells amidst a pandemic that has stretched all of our sanity — and tested the mettle of love in every home and relationship. Alain de Botton: Love is something we have to learn and we can make progress with, and that it’s not just an enthusiasm, it’s a skill. And it requires forbearance, generosity, imagination, and a million things besides. The course of true love is rocky and bumpy at the best of times, and the more generous we can be towards that flawed humanity, the better chance we’ll have of doing the true hard work of love.
Guests The Most Rev. Michael Curry is Presiding Bishop and Primate of The Episcopal Church. He is the author of Dr. Russell Moore is President of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, the moral and public policy agency of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination. He is the author of Transcript Krista Tippett, host: We’re in a tender spiritual moment as a country — widely feeling our need for re-grounding and healing both alone and together. But calls for social repair and unity are also meeting an understandable wariness. The last years have been bruising all around. So of course I leapt at an invitation to be in a forward-looking conversation with two religious thinkers and spiritual leaders from very different places on our Christian and cultural spectrum: Michael Curry, the Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Church of the U.S., together with Russell Moore, the president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission – essentially the chief ethicist – of the Southern Baptist Convention. I drew them out to speak in their vocabularies of faith — understanding this as an exercise in public theology. How might convictions about God and the universe, about love and a question like, who is my neighbor — how might these be offerings from the vast human enterprise that is theology in service to our common life at a turning point like this? As much as what these two say — and they differ on much — they model in their presence and their friendship to each other some of the way forward.