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wisdom here of him asking to do this, when it could aggravate, potentially, how he is sentenced in this case. >> kenneth joseph thomas, like many of my defendants, like many january 6th defendants, feel very, very strongly that, to a large extent, that they went to washington d.c. that day to have their voices be heard. there was -- look, the narrative, with all due respect to your network, sometimes has been pushed, that this was just a violent event -- that there was violence on both sides. >> -- violent -- >> -- >> it was a violent event. look, it was a violent event. police officers were there. >> abby, some of the police officers were not doing their jobs. some of the police officers we're going way beyond doing there jobs, including unjustified lethal force, okay. --
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trying to reach across state borders to things that residents of their states migh do when they are not on thei states, we've never seen anything like that >> well, i mean nothing is the big lie, there is a big lie in the antiabortion world as well and that is that they just wan to return to the state some of the 50 laboratories of democracy decide on abortion law. no, what they want to th national prohibition o abortion and if you get antiabortio activists, the really, you know, the hardest core advocates, yo get the most sodium pen ethal, or even not any sodium kenneth will someone just admit it what they want was a total ban and these bans on interstate travel or a part of that they do not want women in blue states to be able to get abortions anymore than the want them in states like texas right now it is legal for wome in texas to travel across stat lines, and i suspect a lot o them will be going to mexico i they can get there, because if you try to go north you have t go pretty far if you live in the american south, becaus
movement around thes republican states where they'r actually just trying to ban voice in in the states, they are trying to contro interstate travel, they ar trying to reach across state borders to things that residents of their states migh do when they are not on thei states, we've never seen anything like that >> well, i mean nothing is the big lie, there is a big lie in the antiabortion world as well and that is that they just wan to return to the state some of the 50 laboratories of democracy decide on abortion law. no, what they want to th national prohibition o abortion and if you get antiabortio activists, the really, you know, the hardest core advocates, yo get the most sodium pen ethal, or even not any sodium kenneth will someone just admit it what they want was a total ban and these bans on interstate travel or a part of that they do not want women in blue states to be able to get abortions anymore than the want them in states like texas right now it is legal for wome in texas to travel across stat
headlines and say this is a done deal to foregone conclusion for genetic islands are open to listening to other kenneth you're getting a couple more this week. >> it's really early if you look back on history of the caucuses you will see maybe he was ahead right now maybe not necessarily is the winner of the caucus it is early we do not the first debate until august the caucuses not until early next year. read the iowa state fair. we do not have a field settled that with tumor kenneth announcing this week. so again, i think islands are really taking the time. because again they know how important selection is and they want to get it right. i see them showing up out of these immensely had kenneth and i will already i've attended many of the events. i have offered to do that and each one of the events they are filled with iowans and they are engaged and listening and asking good questions. it is early. i think there is a lot of
headlines and say this is a done deal to foregone conclusion for genetic islands are open to listening to other kenneth you're getting a couple more this week. >> it's really early if you look back on history of the caucuses you will see maybe he was ahead right now maybe not necessarily is the winner of the caucus it is early we do not the first debate until august the caucuses not until early next year. read the iowa state fair. we do not have a field settled that with tumor kenneth announcing this week. so again, i think islands are really taking the time. because again they know how important selection is and they want to get it right. i see them showing up out of these immensely had kenneth and i will already i've attended many of the events. i have offered to do that and each one of the events they are filled with iowans and they are engaged and listening and asking good questions. it is early. i think there is a lot of
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