So, obviously, my immediate question was, can we go? can we get there? setting it up with the ukrainians was not the hard bit. Actually, it was convincing my editors and, you know, layers of management back at the times that this was a safe thing to do, or that we could mitigate the risks involved in it. Because they weren t just about the danger there. They were also these legal risks about. . . . . The legal consequences of illegally crossing into russia, which is how the russian government have perceived the trip. But you obviously persuaded them, cos you went. Just to explain, then, who you did speak to and what the terms were. I suppose the question is, whether you were changing names to protect russians, because getting people, presumably, in russia to speak candidly to western journalists must be very hard? well, yeah, these are people who lived in a very quiet corner of russia, and probably had never had anything to do with a journalist, even a russian journalist, never mind a
To protect russians, to protect russians, because getting people, presumably, in russia to speak candidly to Western Journalists must be very hard . Well, yeah, these are people who lived in a very quiet corner of russia, and probably had never had anything to do with a journalist, even a russian journalist, never mind a foreign one. I gave them their choices. I used first names only. And, you know, gave them the choice. I also made. I made very sure to speak to them out of the earshot of ukrainian journalists as much. Ukraine and had taken aggressive action there. And you attended something that sounded very fascinating, which was that ukraines civilian Military Liaison Officers were showing films to local people about the invasion. And i wonder what the reaction was to the films as you were there . Yeah, i mean, that was extraordinary, and one of the most extraordinary things to watch. There was a small audience of older people who were watching it. I spoke to one of them afterwards,
Catherine philp is world affairs editor at the times. She s reported from war zones for decades, and recently accompanied ukrainian forces across the border into kursk. So, i was coming into ukraine for. . . I ve been coming on and off since before the invasion, and this was a long scheduled visit. Itjust so happened that it came at a time when ukrainian forces had crossed the border into russia. So, obviously, my immediate question was, can we go? can we get there? setting it up with the ukrainians was not the hard bit. Actually, it was convincing my editors and, you know, layers of management back at the times that this was a safe thing to do, or that we could mitigate the risks involved in it. Because they weren t just about the danger there. They were also these legal risks about. . . . . The legal consequences of illegally crossing into russia, which is how the russian government have perceived the trip. But you obviously persuaded them, cos you went. Just to explain, then, who yo
Hosting a super spread a friend donald trump is set to host hundreds of supporters at the white house and his 1st public appearance since contracting the disease. Its only been in force for 3 hours but already armenia and azerbaijan are accusing each other of violating a cease fire in the disputed region of the golan car back the truce was announced by russia on friday following 10 hours of talks and involves exchanging prisoners on the bodies of those killed in the conflict hundreds of people have died since fighting flared up at the end of last month. Or shortly will get the view from the golan karabakh with Bernard Smith whos in the main cities to panic but 1st. In tata in azerbaijan she says not everyone is happy with the ceasefire. They believe after 30 years that they had their lands have been occupied by Iranian Forces this is the 1st time they have out for him they have a military with power with more sophisticated weapons at least they have a military back then they didnt have
A lot to chew over as we watch our World Leaders deliver their messages over the course of the day as we said weve been tracking the opening of the general debate of the u. N. General Assembly Meeting in new york our chief International Editor Richard Walker with us here in studio and richard youll be keeping an eye on the u. N. G. A. For us thank you so much for joining us here in our studio. And lets move on to some other news now countries across europe are scrambling to contain the coronavirus pandemic after a surge in new infections british Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that the u. K. Has reached a perilous turning point as he laid out new restrictions today people across the continent will be forced to curtail their activities in hopes of reopening later in the fall. Hes waited 6 months for this bear for the 1st time since march pops in islander again pulling pints but the industry remains wary of a virus that hasnt gone away because we didnt believe until this morning we tur