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Progra programs. they're doing that and sometimes acquire -- some places don't have any oil and have to drill and do a lot of preparation to do that. we know where the oil is. we know there's oil in the gulf, we know there's oil off the atlantic coast, know there's oil off the pacific coast, know there's oil in i las sca. one of the oil people said we spent $3.5 billion in alaska getting prepared to drill and they won't give us the permits. come on. a lot of people don't realize, america is the third largest producer of oil in the world. we could do much much better if we had a group of people...

techniques on colleague sheikh mohammed not provided us with key leads on the courier aboudak -- aboud akman, it produced false and misleading information. >> on set with us in washington, msnbc chief correspondent norah o'donnell and andrea mitchell and senior contributor for the daily caller, matt lewis, also the editor of the new book, the quotable rogue, the ideas of sarah palin. we'll talk about that and former governor of vermont, and former chairman of the democratic national committee, dr. howard dean. how are you? >> i'm great. it's not drizzling in new york. >> it's also lo...