africa on the roof. of stories about people making a difference in shaping their nation. and their continent of africa on the move stories about a motivational change makers taking their destinies into their own hands. d.w. multimedia series from africa. d.w.m. dot com or go. that s been jambalaya identity teenage superstar from the o.p. s created football history against national team player in his country. his dream the phone business. and that s me the guy with the camera who wants to follow being young in his attempt to live his dream. so i m heading to topeka to footballing terra incognita in east africa not for the first time i went there before when binyam was a sixteen year old talented youth player in the capital i mean he s been jambalaya and of course he s got to. binyam was living in a dorm for talented athletes four hundred fifty kilometers away from his hometown to read quite privileged in this group. when he wasn t on the pitch he was making a little money as a construction worker to support his family back home. even back then i saw something special and i mean really special and that s the man who introduced us. the german coach ignore ignore this guy s eyes this is german guy german t.v. . he wants to feel the talents a future of it but only god look at looked. you know i think he got also told me that bill young has an visa and is looking for tribes and job and that he doesn t have an agent yet so what if he also changes my life completely by having me as his agent. is there a wealthy and glamorous future ahead of me. back dr than half it s instead of the expected he raised. two and a half years later we meet again during our traditional g.o.p. reaching i noticed a change. it seems that he has hit the gym quite often the last year i will go to germany. i really see professional clubs have to fight to be professional player different profession out there for ethiopia. when it comes to football if your peers a strange country although they have the second largest population in africa they re already qualified for the africa cup they re famous for the runners but also mad about football. no homegrown player has ever made it to professional you peak in them is being watched by many clubs who are offering serious money but the final match day he couldn t showcases skills. sapping. teves. it s in bits my back pain it s their pain he s come slowly it s. painful. i didn t finish the much from the banshee watch this club c.b.c. news to champion stan george a goal in overtime since being what to do second to fruition i am emotional number and i m. he was substituted before. but you know me as a pretty tough guy. the next day the relegation has already been fun part. is now the most wanted me to feel that if you know. is hungry for more. i want to play in general and. then i have to see the as that ocean. but for myself. i need a germany. this is starting point. now let s go we pick out things and go on a journey out to. challenge take some five thousand five hundred kilometers from home. on the twenty seventh of june we arrive to frank floyd. old we had a proper. pass for that told us about the resilience trying to get into the country with fake invitation mark ups but then the guy with the camera in that thing. being young received the real invitation from second division is what. we have to take the train to get. throughout our journey deeply religious beam it was kind of praying most of the time. after twenty hours of travelling we reached trees but no one was waiting at the platform for us because thomas the guy supposed to pick us up was a little a very young german in billy s opinion. it was obvious that thomas didn t expect that much but after that everything was good and well. and i will later. appear for the first time in the official kit of the normal drazen that train. full of relief focused and beautiful. but. i was so tired at that moment so i decided. but that was his take. not as a family man but as a camera because in a friendly match the next day he scored his first goal on german soil. training the team. its moods. i played one marching team. and i made him go. it was nice. i was present at the next friendly match but other us corps. know binyam on the pitch what happened. in the photo was itself i think again if you need to match. three days almost three days in the three two months and all three mean my side to me. today i was feeney did three three months i went into the doctor and say everything is. i will start to morrow always my teammate waning. time for a little sight seeing injuries and of course binyam into historical churches. seems impressed by the beauty of the city. it appears that he s already living the dream. with excellent food service in the first class hotel. and the big black limousine that chauffeur s him to the train. he s focused on making this a permanent lifestyle watching me me in training sessions i notice a tennis. let s say he s trying a little bit too hot. and you know move they have a rule you have to speak german but will they make an exception for being nice. to. us. after a short layoff you to injury he s back in training how is he doing our home because at the moment binyam is almost never responding to my messages which leaves me annoyed. really annoyed and then i found out why. without writing me a lot of me saying. sky instead grounding. them but it s difficult ones out of four or how many messages by seeing. two hundred and. the most important thing for try list for at least. i m in the next trial against check the first division she was slow volleyball nets binyam does not play in the first when he comes on he shows his class in only one situation a little bit less rushed here he could assist for the one one. make a difference and maybe convince you know most sporting director. after the game passed the coach who dressed inside the boy. to give us a free invite all the yard with a muscle in them until it is evidence out of it was along on them as a goodish knows can feed. on a lot of innocent people. and while being young is doing public relations with fans i have a me. thing was someone who has an eye on me. and interesting guy i flick money players agent from albania being close to the inner circle of football. if it s not working out here for you try to do something for him you did you check up on the fame yes and yes it is you have to offer from montana. from one of the men came you know been nice it s easy for him because it s not. the quantity from the macis just not so strong like an honest we got through because of us the police is more easy more more with about. together we go on a night out injuries this old city center afraid to invite us and all of us the best of everything but most of the time it s all just small talk still it s pretty obvious that i freak wants to lure me need to obey me and. i bane you know was a really big dream destination. no he has high hopes of the number will start. off first take him to their pre-season training camp. which happens two days later in his first time in bavaria very sends me one of his rare video messages. i want smaller and beanie. we are now in the training camp going to. model it once more training then we ll prepare for coming out of my eyes through as to the guy so for now it s enough child by. the friendly between stuttgart embrace nick will be shown live on german t.v. but little billy played my son johnny sanch this right starts on the bench. of. the same pitch side just for a few seconds there he is in his first run out life on german t.v. johnny finds a match a bit boring without him despite dressed in spectacular when. you see. i want to find out why binyam didn t play. so i had to but good and beautiful now the area. when i arrived the players are doing some team rafting on the revenues yet most christians relax but i m getting some strange lives i had the feeling that there was something cooking to work with your feelings. when it seems as legacy but there s something fishy going on. then being these old mentor from ethiopia shows up german coach i can think that it means a decision must be close. so i went out with a german coach for a couple of berry and beer and beat me at binions chances to get a contract i m not too good any more brazen coach who will not house says that only one thing could change his mind goads goals go. that means binny has to deliver in the last friendly of the training camp and he does have addressed and too little behind against third division to having been to school. first forty six minutes. and then a minute later with a nicely taken equaliser. sure . the shop came the next morning sunday. early sunday i got a call from the no much the scout can stand by to ask me if i can pick up the meat in berlin what s the story i m going to pursue business of going into them i thought they. could even put a business. suit just fine on this silver box of this british will too and i mean it s. it s a korean. i knew mr and of him i saw him up with the steps it with us and him on top it was pressure on to speak to him as i took on the king and she him of concern and i saw. her say on the sets of says it would present it to squid and you can eat any munch of it and supposed to spit in the dozen but why the hell they needed three weeks to realize that. which of us mean if i can much easier than come to understand a few thing on. this being off. of them i m thinking of it s a zillion things that i just often feel it s a game this was a. man and had it s for number one thought this is an example. of this fill in some of the here he said you feel like well it was. you know i m addressing felt they couldn t properly integrate him although he was top scorer in pre-season can he still make his dream happen and become the first ethiopian in the bundesliga yet. no integration problems with my family at least. not in the first thing we wanted to know the next day what is the internet saying about her. not signing. down anything. ok. and as for you going to get a contract because i m going to do overs from. the fans more please sixty percent said the police should sign you. yeah. germany s biggest newspaper broke the news no contract for binning but first we had something to celebrate johnny and the union share a birthday on june eighteenth pena s nineteen in johnny turns for. sure. and while being young is celebrating the rest of the day chatting to his family and friends in ethiopia johnny s proving that he is a real party and. the next day we step up our efforts. binyam to stay top fit and meet to find a cure for my toss turns out to be the hot. it s pretty confusing to see a young player with so much talent and commitment not being a scientist by exploring a lot of roads and friends. one reason could be clubs trying to reduce their spots in pay walls and office taking in yams resign expires soon. and i miss a call from an unknown number. so i return the call to the. bean he was back and. sebastian schultz of from the second nation agency says he has organized trials for us so we take the train to that place. but leipzig is only meeting second division side our interested in what is the name . our may not be the most famous club but its local rivals of drislane they are curious to see beneath we are told by the sports pages oh you. plan on this also holds on to what are going to us of a nation with one fin if you wish to know. the preload strong plan as it s defined in the minds of all fun and you wanted to know if i was all that s what i got rough insight out of all of the directors i ve spoken and so that will come to me often as it was as i did a biden or if i set out to write a song. to my off not for through it a sentiment which i think we knew in the future in detail. so will the agency manage to find a club for beanie and make his dream come true. the sucker in the asian guy said they don t want me. and being nice fate is not helped by a series of missed on the things turns out i would want to strike out to have immediate not for future. and over inside spoke austria he s two years too old for the red book and. the next important question for him how can i get to a mania how you want to do it. what they directly said from cologne but you don t berlin so we have to take it from berlin you know because how are you going to get to know from here to call on how money. from berlin. a lot six hundred two so yeah. what. is that s on the list he s crazy for i wouldn t want to call on. the day before his visa expired birth place. a few days later his agent alfred gave me a call good news it s. been just signed a contract to scan the bail koch. when he is now wearing red and white is signed the contract will be a bay new club scandal bay ok. after returning from my holidays i m taking the first plane to obeying i don t know much about a baby and football that s gonna bail sounds like an 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Brian Williams examines the day s top political stories and current political-campaign news. already several witnesses in on just day two. all of it as the 11th hour gets underway on a wednesday night. good evening from our nbc news headquarters in new york. this was one more in a string of extraordinary days in our country. because this was what we woke up to from the president of the united states. quote, attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt right now before it continues to stain our country even further. perhaps just as extraordinary, nothing happened after that. it was wednesday in america and tonight robert mueller and his team remain on the job. the negotiations for a possible sitdown interview between robert mueller and president trump. we report on the latest offer from the special counsel writing that mueller, quote, indicated this week that he s willing to reduce the number of questions his investigation asks. according to two people briefed on the negotiations. in a letter sent monday mueller s team suggested that investigators would reduce by nearly half the number of questions they would ask about potential obstruction of justice. two people said it s unclear which topic or topics would be left out. michael schmidt and maggie haberman wasted no time. they wrote, quote, president trump pushed his lawyers in recent days to try once again to reach an agreement with the special counsel s office flouting their advice that he should not answer investigators questions. mr. trump has told advisors he s eager to meet with investigators to clear himself of wrongdoing. in effect, he believes he can convince the investigators for the special counsel, robert s. mueller, that this is a wish hunt. he s always been interested in testifying but it s us, including me, that have a lot of reservations. they sent us a proposal. we responded to their proposal. they took ten days and we got it back and now we re in the process of responding to their proposal. again, all of this comes as the president escalated his attack on the russia investigation. here s what he said in this particular tweet, this is a terrible situation and attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged wish hunt right now before he stains the country any further. this whole obstruction thing is nonsense. if he wanted to obstruct it, he would have obstructed it. he has a right to defend himself. if he believes he s innocent, he is innocent, he should speak out. white house also moved quickly to frame trump s words as nothing more than his own personal view. it s not an order. it s the president s opinion. the president is not obstructing, he s fighting back. the president is stating his opinion. he s stating it clearly. he s certainly expressing a frustration that he has with the level of corruption that we ve seen from people like jim comey, the president s angry. frankly, most of america is angry as well and there s no reason he shouldn t be able to voice that opinion. but remember what the white house once told us about how we should regard what this president says on twitter. are president trump s tweets considered official white house statements? well, the president is the president of the united states so they re considered official statements by the president. he s willing to speak candidly about the reaction by many lawmakers in the capital. every morning we wake up and he tweets something. mueller s going to finish his investigation. the truth is all going to come out. that s the best thing that could happen for the president and for the country. after that from senator rubio let us bring in our leadoff panel on a wednesday night. peter baker, jill colvin, john high heilman and harry litman. former u.s. attorney, former assistant deputy attorney general under president clinton. peter, i d like to begin with you. i d like to read to you what sally yates wrote on social media. today our president called on our reduced attorney general as shocking as that is. what s more dangerous is we ve gotten used to it. the rule of law won t evaporate overnight but it can slip away if we let it. there we have the president s own words to judge him by. this is on him. this is one of those lessons we get to see if words have consequences. what is fascinating is how much this plays out in public out loud. what we see from the president s tweets is him saying what would have been a scandal has like president nixon been found to have said it privately in a taped session in the oval office. the tape that finally undid him in watergate was hearing him order his aides to tell the fry to layoff the watergate investigation. here you have the president saying on twitter the attorney general who reports to him should shut down the investigation directly. and it is in fact both surprising and yet not surprisi surprising. it s the kind of thing he s done for a year and a half. we have kind of as a society gotten accustomed to it to some extent. harry, i don t walk around quoting u.s. code. for god s sake i don t comment on that. particularly on this argument you started hearing from someone late today as twitter still seems to so many people as a medium. this could still be kind of slow rolling obstruction in plain sight and the three words in the obstruction portion are if you re trying to influence, intimidate or impede an officer of the court. how is this not that? how is this not that? exactly right. and in some ways the notion of whether it s preparatory or a command almost doesn t matter although it s a very, very tenuous distinction. saying, would you look at this? not only and they didn t just jump to it this morning. i mean, they ve been looking at the tweet carefully all the way through. the whole kind of pattern of tweets where he goes back and forth and seems to be dancing around the notion of the two other words from the statute, corrupt intent. we re going to put these altogether and see if we can make a case for his wanting to close it down basically to protect himself, the white house and his family. no doubt just like any other statement it s sort of silly to say it s on twitter or white house stationery. it s a statement from the president of the united states and it s admissible and they are analyzing it. jill colvin, tell us what you and your colleagues are reporting about this president and the atmospherics. the confidence of this president, he is definitely not happy right now. the president was watching television, watching coverage of the beginning of the trial of paul manafort this morning. we re told that s what sparked the flurry of tweets. one confidante said that the president is, quote, in a dark place. the president has been furious. it s been building over the last couple of weeks. he was furious at the media the way that he felt that he was not given enough credit for the meeting with vladimir putin. putin was portrayed, he felt like he didn t get enough credit for meeting with kim jong-un in singapore. and you ve got a president who feels the media is attacking him and the government is coming in and attacking him right now. you have in addition to the both democrats and republicans. there are a lot of things about twitter. it s a heck of a medium in some ways. it s beneficial in other ways. it s the same thing that the op ed is in the new york times in 2018. those words are hanging out there. harry, are you a member of the club despite all of the great bylines. i may be a member. you ll believe a mueller/trump meeting when you see it? in other words, i ll believe it when i see it like i don t think it s going to happen. i m a long term card carrying member of that club. i think however much they pare it down, it will be questions if he answers them falsely he ll be subject to criminal charges. there will be questions did you know flynn was under investigation? we have new reports that shows he was. there are probably half a doze other thing that trump doesn t know and mueller does and, yeah, i don t see his sitting down with them under any circumstances where there s criminal penalty and i don t see mueller situation. we knew if we needed any help that the president s words were going to be impactful. the minute we learned how many news organizations got what the president meant to say, phone calls afterwards, i know yours was among them. absolutely. they re trying to make the part, this is an opinion, not a command. that s because they understand there is a line. that s where they ve drawn the line. he can express his opinion, they can say he wants to shut it down. there may be a moment he can change his mind. he s been convinced and fired rod rosenstein, firing bob mueller would create such a blow back against them? what he s trying to do is in effect continue to shape public opinion to make sure his base and maybe some other people believe this investigation isn t legitimate. there isn t no reason to believe what might come out of it that might come out of this investigation and to prepare the ground with what will lay the groundwork when we hear about the investigation. jill colvin, we mentioned three whole news media briefings for the month of july from the white house. they are, i should point out 1-0 for august so far. we had one today. the president is about to go down for ten days. rush limbaugh was able to talk to him today. is the philosophy going to be acknowledgment, deep dark in the west wing or in the residence don t that he d like to take that back today? i don t know on his part. in the residence? probably not. a lot of people in the building wish he wouldn t have done what he did. when you get back to the situation with mueller and the interview, i think a lot of people are going to interpret it in a somewhat panicked the way. the notion that he s giving ground. to me it indicates a position of strength that he when you look at this new reporting. if it s true that mueller has already talked to we know he has talked to previously mcbegan and they have already testified to him that, yes, trump has been presented with a time line and evidence of the fact that the fbi was investigating flynn before he had his conversation with comey telling comey to layoff. there s memos, documentation president s words, just days ago the times reported that mueller is examining all the president has said about jeff sessions as part of his wide-ranging obstruction investigation. he can throw this morning s tweet on the pile. here with us to talk more about it, clint watts, former fbi special agent. his latest messing with the enemy, surviving in a social media world, hack eers. i have to ask you if you came across the type of behavior we re seeing from the nation s top executive in your old day job at the fbi, how would that alter your investigation? what would that do? it adds to the pile. it continues the time line. several interesting thing about this obstruction angle, hearing negotiation from the mueller team about taking written responses to questions and then sitting down for an interview. i m sure isn t that just to get him in the door? it is. it can play very much to the president s disadvantage because strategically, he doesn t like to leave very much. he ll be working with so he s going to have to go in and understand and know what the state said, the president is at a huge disadvantage. he doesn t know everyone what mueller has talked to, what they have told him and what documents, texts, also match up to a time line. we ve seen here on nbc news. well, comey when i got rid of him, it was because of the russia thing. these republicans are very damning. even dpe not actually obstruction. it s the attempt to be struck in terms of how the investigation progresses. the mueller team probably has all of the data it needs to ask the questions, have the president come in, it s very difficult for the president to be consistent with the written statement and the bottom line. any acknowledgment by those around the president that his tone isn t always that of an innocent man? reporter: absolutely. his lawyers, his legal advisors, you know, around a year ago when he first started building up the legal team really emphasized to him that you cannot be making public attacks against mueller or against this investigation. they were successful. last time trump would say no collusion and he pretty much tamped down in the personal attacks on mueller but that strategy he felt wasn t really working for him and there was a moment there was a particularly activist michael could he heen raced and he had already been intesting the water and the rhetoric. he had been told this investigation would be done by 2018 with his lawyers. he continues to see voompt from people in his administration and campaign. that was the moment he said, forget this. i m going on full attack mode. rudy giuliani was brought in to be the public attack dog of the client. it is a major share we were when the latest advice. you wrote about the latest stage and looked at it in another way, it looks like mueller is trying to say whatever you need to do to get the guy in here, get him in the door. that s typically how these negotiations work. yes. to the point the guests were making earlier, doesn t look like mueller is caving. mueller really knows the answer to a lot of his questions and the point clint was making, to some extent, the trump does know what the documents are out there. they know what the witnesses have said to some extent. mueller has more, many, many more pieces of this puzzle than the president s team does. he knows the answer. he wants to get those on record. around obstruction, one of the main ones was to determine the press s impact. they want to give us and that is typical for how things go. any of these sort of, you know, carefully core rio graphed negotiations. he s agreed to stick around and we re going to put his web training to use. clint, our thanks for now and shannon, our thanks for coming on. coming up, incredibly expensive men s wear, wire homes. why are transfers from bank accounts in cypress. when the 11th hour continues. friel much paul manafort enters tomorrow. prosecutors talked about how manafort made his money in the u skran and how they contend he presented it to the united states. they have piles of evidence on how he paid for things largely through foreign bank transfers. we re guessing not a lot of members of our audience have paid for things through foreign bank transfers. the president who has sought to distance himself from his former chairman did weigh in today writing, quote, looking back on history who was treated worst, alfonse, killer or paul than ford. darling now serving solitary confinement although convicted of nothing. where is the russia collusion. that s our president. here to talk about it, daniel goldman. and rachel is with us. i m sorry for the long day this makes for. talk about what was presented today. the judge s theory that he s not allowing photographs to be displayed in court but he s going to allow the jury photos when they go off some day to deliberate. that s in part because he wants the trying to move quickly. he s been adamant and they re able to move. they were supposed to take three weeks and the government says they will fin next week. you might not want a person knowing how much media coverage this case is getting, but it seems like he might not let them show the jury. in the end they came in, they came in at the end of the day but they did get pictures of the $650,000 ostrich jacket and i think an $18,500 python jacket and all sorts of other very expensive suits. man likes jackets. counselor, a couple of questions for you. first of all, this is a nonsee questered jury. the president is tweeting about the defendant in a way that they can all see proclaiming his innocence. where do we find that? what do we do with that? the judge will inspect the jury. do not read about the case. do not watch television about the case. this is a different world where we re dealing with twitter. i don t know if the judge has instructed the jury not to read twitter but that s what they need to do. we re not see questered like the simpson trial, for example, but they have obstructed the two not to read any newspapers. we have to interrupt our conversation to ask rachel, have you heard such a charge from the judge? no. i m not sure he knows what twitter is. at 78 he will admit it. he always says i would say don t look it up in an encyclopedia, but i m the only person who does that. don t look it up online. assuming they hold to that, they haven t heard the trump tweets. you could be in a coffee shot and it might come across your vision. dan, we did hear he gave the government roles a couple of brush back pitches, shim movement. they keep showing the lavish lifestyle. you can over play that hand. not a time to be a rich guy, but you have to understand the context of this. it s not just that he lived a lavish lifestyle although that is sort of his motive, particularly when the money dried up after he stopped working for kovich in 2014, that he wanted to continue this lavish lifestyle. you also have to be able to show in a tax fraud case that what you declared for your income tax is less than what you actually earned. one way to do that is to show what we call in prosecutor world, unexplained wealth. how can you be playing out $6 million in cash, if, for example, you only declared that you made 1 million. it is very relevant evidence. i think what the judge is getting frustrated with is don t try to over sell it. that s not really what s relevant. what s relevant be is the money not the photograph. so he s trying to stretch that and keep things moving. rachel, what were the hints that rick gates, star witness, former manafort assistant, may not end up taking the stand? so one of the prosecutors did say gates may or may not testify. obviously that caused a lot of commotion. but i think there s not much to it. always prosecutors when told not to put in some evidence because a later witness will testify to it will say, well, we haven t we re not sure that person will testify so we should put it in now to make sure they can account for any possibility, you know, whatever might happen to rick gates. i think he was doing that the way prosecutors do and he did sort of immediately walk it back and saying particularly that s true of any witness. it would be shocking if rick gates didn t testify. he is a key witness in this case. yes. and the defense is planning to blame everything on rick gates but i m sure prosecutors were preparing for that. counselor, i have time for a yes or no? yes, but i gave you a one word answer. the prosecution did not include gates very prominently in the opening statements. that would indicate they would certainly be calling him. the fact that they didn t is interesting. they didn t try the case with gates as a witness. great thanks to our two guests. terrific segment. daniel and rachel, thank you both very much. coming up, you may have seen them displaying the letter q. they are a conspiracy group willing to believe, say, perpetuate just about anything. their story when we come back. . try metamucil, and begin to feel what lighter feels like. it was always our singular focus, a distinct determination. to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource. to fight cancer. and never lose sight of the patients we re fighting for. our cancer treatment specialists share the same vision. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. specialists focused on treating cancer. using advanced technologies. and more precise treatments than before. working as hard as we can- doing all that we can- for everyone who walks through our doors. this is cancer treatment centers of america. and these are the specialists we re proud to call our own. treating cancer isn t one thing we do. it s the only thing we do. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com cancer treatment centers of america. appointments available now. q con spspiricist at the trump event. qanon stormed the great awakening. he said, this is the calm before the storm. that launched us into the q being military intelligence. talking to all of us. letting us know what s going on behind the scenes, letting us know the covert battle. what can you do? spread it. combat the mainstream media. we re fighting a battle on all fronts. there is a q coin. here is the comment from trump that gave this group a lot of fuel. a photo op during a white house dinner for military commanders and their spouses. note what the president says here which would normally be filed during the toss off work. what s your thoughts? talk. it s a storm. what s the storm? military people, i will tell you that. what storm, mr. president? you ll find out. thank you, everybody. calm before the storm. nbc news reporter ben cohen covers this and has been looking into the group and writing about them. we ve asked clint watts, former fbi agent to stick around. ben, i guess their motives and beliefs, what else should we know about them? unfortunately, you got it all right. there s not much to know. this is a conspiracy theory that donald trump is doing everything right. anything that looks like he s doing it wrong is the right thing. they ve misconstrued typos to make it look like he s in on it. at the end of the day this is a situation where people on the internet can t grapple with the reality of the situation. it s to take out all of the disinformation. that s what you see here, they ve accused people from celebrities to politicians of a sex ring. it s pizza gate. it s amped up with the help of people on twitter, reddit and facebook. you do your work as we do ours in a free society where it s hard to limit this kind of thing. it s hard to squelch or suppress it. look at the climate this is coming up in. right. going back two years ago we saw the kremlin pushing a lot of disinformation around the election. what we re seeing now is a lot of high end production. the videos are very good which makes them more convincing. you re seeing them spread very rapidly. the key phrase there, the calm before the storm. what you can do if you re a good social engineer and you can pick out the phrases and combine them into a conspiracy it seems more convincing to people who don t really know the details. i m not so much worried about russian disinformation, i m worried about american disinformation. it s a public safety issue. we ve seen people show up with shutdowns, if you look at it it has all of the elements of what would be an uprising. so i think it s a really dangerous phenomenon especially when you see it tied to the president and his rally. in the immortal words, it s all fun and games until something goes wrong. we ve already seen it with the pizza gate. a man walks into a pizza parlor and shot it up assuming there was a child sex ring in the basement. there s a guy who blocked the entrance to whoever dam. since he s gotten into jail he s sent a bunch of wild letters to the president. there s a guy in arizona who has for the past few weeks, he has a felony trespassing charge because he believes that a homeless camp he was live streaming it on youtube and facebook until they brought it down. this has real life consequences and it s happening all the time now. the people putting up q signs at trump rallies is not going to help it. clint, how much do you fear this group is getting a wink and a nod from the right people to not stop and what can the government do in a free society? part of the reason why this works is we asked politicians that we see foreign media influence. we had a meeting in the senate. the intelligence committee was talking about the media and disinformation. they can make manipulated truths. they can do that faster than they can identify them and swap them down. in that lag time we have lots of changes happening. one in four don t think they should have their children back united. four in ten don t actually think it s a bad idea for russia maybe to medal in our election. this is like breaking something and dividing it. those people with sophisticated technology that can mine and grab an audience and can slickly produce content can drive major events, political, public safety. you can get people to show up with rifles. this is a dangerous situation and if our politicians are not tamping it down or not saying much or are letting it go, it could be really devastating to our country in the long run. in this world we ve seen people can show up with guns they ve compiled on a 3-d printer. the president has a rally in ohio. we will watch for this and see who turns out in both cases. we d love to have you gentlemen both on again on this subject if you d agree to that. thank you so much for coming on. disturbing topic. appreciate it. much more ahead on the 11th hour when we come right back. hateful. when you come across an indispensable twitter account it can be so useful and refreshing. that s where michael beschloss comes in. he is a long time friend of this broadcast and truth be told of this broadcaster. he s one of the great presidential historians and authors of this time. michael s twitter feed does not disappoint. just in the last few days he has given us richard nixon jumping off a limo, mid town manhattan 1956, general ford s cue card from when he took the oath of office and an early selfie taken by young jackie kennedy. but then today there was this from michael and we couldn t help but notice this it said the 11th hour from this week back in 1974. indeed, for richard nixon it was the proverbial 11th hour as
Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. the senator from maryland. senator, good to see you. thank you for joining us. what do you make of that quite unexpected news conference today? it did seem like full court press, agreeing with the fact there was interference, there is interference, and i wasn t as confident that we know exactly what we re supposed to do about it, but it seemed like everybody in that room seemed to agree this is something we have to deal with. first, it s good to be with you. you re exactly right, it was very clear that russia interfered in our 2016 elections and it was acknowledged that it was mr. putin, the russian government, that was behind that. they acknowledged that this campaign is continuing both in trying to influence how voters vote as well as we are concerned that they may even go into our election apparatus. no evidence that they re doing that yet, but they are certainly exploring that. that was very clear. and they laid out strategies for dealing with it, which are consistent with recommendations you just used. is it all-government without the presidentish press briefing symbolic of an all-government approach or is it not there yet? you have to have the president on board for an all-government approach. it was encouraging. i thought they had a good command of what we need to do. the question is do they have the support from the president. senator, good to see you as always, thank you. senator ben cardin of maryland. today s beefed-up white house briefing comes at the end of a week that was marked by election and cyber security headlines. facebook revealed another campaign on its platform very similar to russia s attacks in the 2016 election. yesterday top security experts testified on capitol hill on the failures of the united states government to stop foreign influence. the 9/11 commission characterized the failures that preceded that attack as a failure of imagination. i believe the failure to detect and disrupt the russian government s weaponization of online platforms to be a similar failure to imagine, not just by the government, but also by those who ought to understand these tools best, their creators. that was laura rosenberger. she ll join me later in the hour. first i want to bring in nbc s national security analyst clint watts. he s a former fbi special agent and the author of messing with the enemy, surviving in a social media world of hackers, terrorists, russians and fake news. clint, you ve been with us through this whole thing, this whole unfolding of the mystery of russian hacking and the tacit and lacking in confidence embraces of this information. what does today feel like to you? it s remarkable that the institutions are essentially moving around the leader, their leader, to execute these policies. these are things that should have been done immediately after 2016. i ve been to many parts of the government since 2016. i ve talked to them. in each of those briefings, i kind of look and i go i hope you ve got this. the room is very quiet. i don t doubt that our civil servants, our intelligence community, our military people, want to move the ball forward and do what s right. so what i think you saw today was a press briefing where essentially each of the institutions said my duty is to you, the u.s. citizens, to make sure your election isn t interfered with, that you have confidence in democracy and that no one is going push us around. we didn t get that. we got something that said we re trying as hard as we can. right. obviously a press briefing like that can t happen without the president s tacit approval. and yet to what senator ben cardin just said, why didn t the president do that? why doesn t the president come out and say it in that full-throated manner? it will still fail. this will fail today because it s not integrated. each of those agencies has a different role. director wray said my influence task force is doing the following, because he s doing what he s allowed to do, but he s not there to police fake news that comes into the united states. that s not his job. whose job is that? who s going to take that on? this has to be put together and it takes leadership. and the leadership has to come from the top. it s got to come from a person that is called the president of the united states. there should be a strategy that s pushed out by the national security staff and it s pushed down to these agencies. that is not happening. the institutions know what s right to do with the people, they re just doing at least what they can. dan coats has used this example, lots of people have, the lights of blinking red the way they were in the summer whether 9/11. right. and what we didn t do in the summer before 9/11 is figure out whether there should be one person or one entity coordinating all the different government branches that you re talking about. do we even know what that looks like? is there a position waiting in the wings that s like the director of homeland security or someone who coordinates fake news, actual physical cyber attacks on our infrastructure, all of the different things that could happen? when i testified in march of 2017, i tried to address that and say it needs to be a task force set up. each of these agencies has a different role. one is hacking and defense, that s dhs. national security and cyber command. fbi should be looking at hacks, investigating and looking for foreign influence in terms of persons. but who is responsible for this middle ground? it should be a task force set up. it should have a two-year mandate. it should come from the white house. someone needs to lead this effort and bring these pieces together and the white house refuses to put anyone in charge of that. i think what you re seeing is i think it s admirable for each of these leaders because they re under enormous pressure from the president to keep their mouth shut and not mention russia even in the white house. they re moving forward trying to restore confidence for the american people but it s not the right way to do it and how our country should be led. let me just say what the general in charge of the nsa said at the briefing. i won t discuss the specifics except to state that our forces are well trained, ready, and very capable. i have complete confidence in the forces under my command. we will work in conjunction with other elements of our government to ensure we bring the full power of our nation to bear on any foreign power that attempts to interfere in our democratic processes. that s strong. that s the message you want to hear from everyone. i m not sure that what we need is what paul nakasone s forces are capable of doing. but that s a government official, happened to be in uniform, saying i m ready, i know what i need to go after, i m going to keep you safe. that wasn t even as certain as dni dan coats could get. and that is a great message. we re playing a zero sum game with russia. why would they stop doing it? they have met no counterpunch, they re going to keep doing it. if the nsa goes and does an offensive cyber operation, who does that inflict casualties on inside the u.s. cyberspace system. i don t mean literal casualties, but cyber infrastructure. hacking attempts, is the fbi ready or our military ready for the blowback from this. this is cyber war that has to be coordinated from the very top and everybody is going to be on board. i wonder if these leaders are trying to coordinate with each other and, oh, by the way, don t mention it to the white house, we have to protect ourself. clint watts, former fbi special agent. author of messing with the enemy. up next, brand new reporting on who robert mueller now wants to interview about that infamous trump tower meeting. why he wants to talk to a russian pop star who once featured president trump in a music video. you re watching msnbc. treba® r. now i m doing more to lower my a1c. i take tresiba® once a day. tresiba® controls blood sugar for 24 hours for powerful a1c reduction. 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the idea is these guys set up a meeting because this lawyer either promised dirt on hillary clinton or wanted to discuss the magnitsky act, the idea being that donald trump jr. and paul manafort can t say they didn t know what this meeting was about. that s right and who connected natalia veselnitskaya with emin, was it somebody above emin s father. and right now what we do know is that the lawyer is in discussions, ongoing discussions with mueller s team about this potential interview. it s unclear if mueller can compel emin that s what i was going to ask you. can he just say no? at this point in the reporting, we don t know. but what s clear is he is a key figure in setting this meeting up, which is central to mueller s investigation. anna schecter, nbc s investigative producer on this particular topic that we are staying very, very close to. top intel leaders came together at the white house today to brief and lining up their plan to make sure our elections are secure ahead of the midterms, but does their plan go far enough? does it even mean something if the president isn t behind it? and is today s announcement actually going to change anything? we ll take a closer look when we come back. know what? no, what? i just switched to geico and got more. more? got a company i can trust. that s a heck of a lot more. over 75 years of great savings and service. you can t argue with more. why would ya? geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more. new laptop with 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. in regards to russian involvement in the midterm elections, we continue to see a pervasive messaging campaign by russia to try to weaken and divide the united states. our democracy itself is in the crosshairs. free and fair elections are the cornerstone of our democracy and it has become clear that they are the target of our adversaries who seek as the dni just said to sow discord and undermine our way of life. make no mistake, the scope of this foreign influence threat is both broad and deep. way to go, white house. everybody says we never say nice things about the white house. we re saying nice things about you. that was the thing to do. the nation s top intelligence officials put on a united front today in the wake of concerns about the security of this fall s midterm elections. their joint appearance at the start of the white house briefing comes after a series of headlines on election security and one day after a senate hearing featuring experts and executives from social media companies talking about what could be done to prevent further interference. joining us now to talk about this are two people who could have written their scripts for them. laura rosenberger the director of the alliance for securing election and former clinton campaign foreign policy advisor and roger mcnamee. he s an early and current investor in facebook. laura and roger, listen to the language they use. christopher wray called it information warfare. dni coats called it pervasive messaging. kirstjen nielsen talked about democracy in the crosshairs. that was an amazing press conference. the head of the nsa, laura, spoke about how his forces stand ready to combat infiltration. okay. does it mean anything different than when we spoke about this 24 hours ago? does this have teeth behind it? because no one has seen the president and no one has seen a tweet from him. so, yes, ali, i think it is incredibly important that this happened today. i think it sends a very clear message. it is important that it happened from the white house briefing room. it is important that you had the various heads of the agencies that are involved in countering this threat all sending a clear and consistent message about the threat, about the fact it will not be tolerated, about the fact that there will be consequences for such action and that they are willing to take the steps necessary to meet it. one of the things experts had been saying is so important is that there be a consistent message and that we be exposing this activity. i do think that it is important for the american people to hear from the president himself clear and consistently on this issue. i hope that is a follow-up step to the positive thing that we saw just now and that will come next. or they re all going to get fired. roger mcnamee, chris wray said something really interesting. he said he drew a really clear distinction between those people who say, well, no votes were changed. we don t know. we don t have evidence whether votes were changed. but we know there was a misinformation campaign, information warfare, and that that s what the problem is. again, i think it was 24 hours ago, you and i had this conversation. indeed, ali. i think that we face a couple of challenges. i m 100% with laura in how important this is as the first step. there s more than one thing going on here and there is the potential for many, many bad actors, not just the russians. that playbook is out there and anybody can do it today. and everyone who does it is a threat to democracy. so this was an essential first step. the piece that they don t talk about and that frankly is the elephant in the room is i m really worried that the scale of facebook, the scale of google and the scale of twitter today has exceeded the ability of the management teams of those companies to actually effect the changes we need to protect democracy. it makes me very, very nervous, because we are trusting them with this midterm election. so at least at least everybody seems to be singing from the same hymnal here, but laura, to roger s point, christopher wray actually addressed the issue of whose problem this is to solve. let s listen to what he said. since january 2017, the president has taken decisive action to defend our election systems from meddling and interference. the intelligence community continues to be concerned about the threats of upcoming this is also not christopher wray unless he just lost all his hair. so i m going to tell you what christopher wray actually said while whoever who s punking me in the control room sorts out their issues. christopher wray said we have to be a public/private partnership with this particular threat and that s why i talked about the three pillars, the foreign influence task force, we re spending much of our effort trying to engage with the social media technology companies because there s a very important role for them to play in terms of monitoring and policing their own platform. we are sharing with them actionable information. that wasn t happening before. roger mcnamee, he s saying that wasn t happening before. laura, who solves it? fbi gives facebook and twitter and google information. are they supposed to solve it? is it fbi supposed to solve it? who fixes this? well, this is what we call a whole of society problem. you need the government to play a role, you need the social media platform, the private sector to play a role and you need civil society, outside researchers to play a role of the and everybody here has different pieces of the puzzle that they can help put together to both shine a light to understand what s happening and to eechffectively counter it. different actors will be playing different roles. different actors will have different pieces they can bring to the table. what i think is important is i completely agree as chris wray talked about there are these task forces that have been set up, that there has been progress. that s good. the problem is it s been slow, it s relatively ad hoc right now, it s not formal and institutionalized in a way, and frankly there are multiple task forces in different parts of the u.s. government. this is why we need a white house led, national security council directed, we ve proposed a counter foreign interference coordinator to bring together these activities in a streamlined institutionalized manner. there are models from the cybersecurity world and the counterterrorism world. if we re going to take this threat as seriously as it is, we need to put in place the mechanisms that are going to be required to bring the players together to address it. you know, roger, when the president got elected, he liked to say that the biggest problem that our democracy was facing was voter fraud. he even set up a whole commission and there was a lot of hoopla around the whole thing. it was a nonsense bogus commission that was dismantled. we d like to see something along those lines. but i guess my question to you is what does success look like here? have you thought about what a world looks like where we understand we re being bombarded by all sorts of bad actors, whether they are state actors or nonstate actors and yet we can live safely and have access to reliable information? ali, i think one of the core elements here is to recognize that our voting systems, which are highly distributed and tend to operate at the county level are an artifact of an older time. the world has changed and the vulnerabilities of that highly distributed system now offset all of the benefits. i think that we really need to have a conversation about what is the right way in a democracy to actually execute the voting process. why tuesday? why do we limit people s ability to vote pby mail or in other ways? why do we have systems out that there are not auditable. all of those things are deep flaws and the russians in 2016 apparently have exploited many of those and apparently they re continuing to go after them. another issue is, obviously, the allocation of funding to do it. money was raised by congress, none of this as far as i can tell has been spent. the republicans just shut down a second appropriation for election security. we ve got to get everybody we don t actually have everybody from the same hymnal. what we had was a performance piece that if it s true is really important. and the last piece, and we ve talked about this before, is that voters have a huge responsibility in this. the most successful aspects of the 2016 interference was about voter suppression. correct. and the voter suppression can be offset if we as citizens recogniti recognize to make sure we re registered and actually vote on election day no matter what the obstacles are. the average voter turnout is under 40%. tell all your friends. from your lips to everybody who s listening s ears, people can talk all they want about politics and polls and the other guy, but you actually have to go out and vote. roger, thank you very much for that. laura, thank you for your continued work on this front. laura rosenberger is the director of the alliance for securing democracy and former clinton campaign foreign policy advisor. roger is a great friend of our show. all right, coming up, the president is chipping away at yet another obama era environmental policy. the argument they are using to roll back gas mileage standards and what it means for you. you re watching msnbc. a hotel can make or break a trip. and at expedia, we don t think you should be rushed into booking one. that s why we created expedia s add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when you book with expedia. moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis was intense. my mom s pain from i wondered if she could do the stuff she does for us which is kinda, a lot. and if that pain could mean something worse. joint pain could mean joint damage. enbrel helps relieve joint pain, and helps stop further damage enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders and allergic reactions have occurred. tell your doctor if you ve been someplace where fungal infections are common. or if you re prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure or if you have persistent fever, bruising, bleeding or paleness. don t start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. since enbrel, my mom s back to being my mom. visit enbrel.com. and use the joint damage simulator to see how joint damage could progress. ask about enbrel. enbrel. fda approved for over 18 years. about the colonial penn program. here to tell you if you re age 50 to 85 and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three p s. what are the three p s? 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i think there are a variety of reasons why people want fuel efficient vehicles, but mostly because it performs well, there are choices in the market that you have for families and for vehicles that need to do workloads. and we all are happier when we have those choices and when we don t have to pay money at the pump, which is why this is a really baffling proposal. because it really doesn t just weaken the standard, but it does it in a way that makes our auto companies not competitive. it does it in a way that cedes jobs and growth to foreign markets and significantly increases the amount of oil that this country will have to consume, which means more greenhouse gases, so it just makes no sense. oil prices was actually the problem. yes. the reason that the hondas and toyotas and nissans came into america is americans were looking for fuel efficient cars they weren t able to get from their own automaker, so i don t get who wins from this. the only one that wins from this are foreign markets because they ll be getting all of the fuel efficient vehicles that our car companies will be producing, because they re demanding it, and the oil and gas company because we are going to be consuming over a million additional barrels of oil every day as a result of taking away the national program we have now that everybody knows is working and instead insert this in. this is just another part of our make america great that s about looking in our rear-view mirror instead of going forward. let me try and articulate the reasoning that the government is giving on this. they re saying to make these cars more fuel efficient on an ongoing basis as you had done in the obama administration makes cars cost more. if we take this out, cars won t cost more so people will buy new cars for less money more frequently and they re safer. well, they do think that consumers only look at the sticker price. as we know, the costs of all of these different improvements that keep going down every year, so we re not talking about a big change in sticker price. they re ignoring the fact that consumers actually benefit tremendously in terms of money in their pocketbooks if they actually drive those vehicles for a year or so. so we know that this is good for consumers. but they re also arguing, ali, which is really weird, they re not only arguing that people will hang on to these old vehicles an not buy new ones and therefore old vehicles will be unsafe compared to the new ones and then argue that people who can afford it will buy the new vehicles but they ll also be unsafe because they ll drive them around more. it is the most ridiculous argument imaginable because nobody is suggesting that fuel efficiency is anything but safe to be brought into the market today. if it were, nobody would have proposed this. this is about ignoring science, ignoring the law, ignoring the facts, giving a boone to the fossil fuel industry and everybody else loses, most notably the automobile manufacturers. they weren t asking for this. this creates a world of uncertainty that will put them at significant disadvantage against those really smart companies from other places that know we like fuel efficient vehicles. california said it s going to sue and as a result an automaker doesn t know what rules will be operating for a little while. gina mccarthy, my mother always said don t make serious plan on an empty stomach. someone made a plan on an empty stomach here. that s not the only obama air ya regulation he is targeting. four cities, chicago, columbus, cincinnati and baltimore filed a lawsuit accusing the president of violating his constitutional responsibility to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. this morning i spoke with the baltimore mayor and asked her why her city is participating in the lawsuit. now that we sort of kind of slowed it down, we re not promoting it, we re not advertising it, we re not enforcing it and now we re driving up the costs and people cannot afford the costs that are being driven up by the acts of the trump administration. the lawyer involved in the case tells nbc news the suit will rely on tweets in which the president called obamacare a mess and said he would let the law implode. president trump is looking to up the ante and raise tariffs on even more chinese goods. how the growing trade war could bump up the price of electronics, medical equipment and more and why hundreds of thousands of jobs could be at stake. you re watching msnbc. but allstate actually helps you drive safely. with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast. .and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can t do anything about that. now that you know the truth. are you in good hands? china is urging the united states to, quote, correct its attitude attitude after president trump escalated his efforts to get china to negotiate a new trade deal. let s talk about this. a lot of numbers here. stay with me. the president originally proposed imposing a 10% tariff on an additional $200 billion in chinese goods. he now wants to raise that to 25%. the proposed tariffs target products such as aircraft parts, diesel trucks, medical equipment, flat panel tv screens and much more. now, china retaliated to the first set of u.s. tariffs by imposing sweeping duties on its own range of american goods, including soybeans, corn, wheat, tobacco and whiskey which is why all of that stuff we now have surpluses of. with the increased cost of goods, companies could be forced to cut costs and potentially layoff employees, according to the trade partnership. the tariffs and retaliatory measures could result in a loss of more than 450,000 u.s. jobsz. now the white house has approved $12 billion in emergency relief for farmers who are caught up in the trade war. but if it provided similar assistance to others affected in different industries, the cost would balloon to $39 billion. so that s just one particular cost of this trade war. joining us now to take a closer look at this is economist at oxford university fellow linda yu, author of the book the great economists, how their ideas can help us today. linda, great to see you. thanks for being with us. what s the immediate implication of a higher tariff on more chinese goods? the immediate implication is going to be a cost increase. if you re going from a 10% tax to 25% tax on about half of everything america imports from china, then the cost of those goods, some of them, are likely to go up. but i think, ali, one of the more worrying things about all of this is that china will retaliate. now, that s probably going to increase costs to american consumers as well, but here s the rub. china doesn t actually import $200 billion worth of goods from america, so they re going to have to look for other ways to retaliate and this is where i start to get really worried about what happens to investment and what happens to companies. tell me let s talk a little more about that. what happens next? if they run out of things they can retaliate on in terms of tariffs because we import much more from china than they do from us which is sort of what president trump s point might have been in the beginning, what else can happen? well, they can restrict investment. you remember qualcomm and trying to buy a dutch chip maker? the chinese sat on that deal and that deal actually didn t go through. that s a big m & a deal for a huge american tech company. so the chinese could retaliate by restricting or affecting american investment. so, that s really going to hit corporate balance sheets which, of course, will then affect workers because people are employees of these companies. so i think that s the danger when china only imports $160 billion from america. they can t do a tit for tat so they re going to have to look for other things. and i just worry, the qualcomm deal is the first of many to come, and that excellent explainer that you put up, that showed the cost of this trade war, that s likely to go up if china starts to retaliate in these other ways. so, let s go back to first principles here. i want to show a tweet that president trump sent on july 24th. tariffs are the greatest. either a country which has treated the united states unfairly on trade negotiates a fair deal or it gets hit with tariffs. it s as simple as that and everybody is talking. the last line is what i m interested in. remember, we are the piggy bank that s being robbed. all will be great. what do you think he means, we are the piggy bank that s being robbed? he has created an impression that we give china or everybody else lots of money every year and don t seem to get something in return for it. the bottom line is we do get goods in exchange for the things we buy from china. yeah, we do. i think he s really pointing to the fact that the chinese market isn t as open as the u.s. one. so it becomes, i guess, if you think about the u.s. buying lots of goods from china, it s easier for chinese firms to sell than it is for american firms to sell to china, which is true. i think that s probably what he s referring to. the question is what do you do about did? so, tariffs are a tax. putting a tax on things tends to hurt consumers and it tends to hurt companies like we ve been discussing. but i think he s probably and this looks like the strategy so far is saying we are going to levy these tariffs after the beginning of september if you don t open up your markets more. so it s almost like, you remember gun boat diplomacy where you say i m going to fire this at you unless you open up? that s what it sort of feels like. now, that is not how trade deals are normally done. right. but i suppose if you looked at what president trump is unhappy with, is that china hasn t opened its markets after a long time, and he thinks a new tactic is needed. but here s the danger. it escalates and it doesn t look like they re going to come back from the brink and there will be economic damage. and to me that probably is a bigger deal than the ongoing trade negotiations, which must happen between the u.s. and china for sometime to come. linda, you have made this much more easy to understand. it s a complicated issue. thank you for joining me. linda yu is a professor at the london school of business. we ll be right back. nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs, and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. now i have less diabetic nerve pain. ask your doctor about lyrica. apple made history today becoming the first publicly traded u.s. company to hit a market value of a trillion dollars. take a look at this. that s just today s trading on apple. i will say there is an expectation that this would happen, so that sometimes helps. the trade goes up because people are expecting it to happen. the stock rose more than 3%, though. that s a big gain, as you know, for a single stock for a single day, hitting an all-time high of $208.38. hovering around 207.58 at the moment. this, by the way, puts apple up more than 20% just this year. the major indices had fallen earlier in the day as trade worries intensified after the trump administration threatened to slap those bigger tariffs on china. here s where we end the day, though. the dow is just down a little bit. the nasdaq which is the tech heavy index is up a lot more.
part of. your story you are trying always to understand this your culture. or another visitor or not and yet you want to become a citizen. migrants your platform for reliable information. this is d w news africa coming up in the next 15 minutes the new. rules by the international association of athletics federations will hear from kenya s limpid brands made in this. chief is the new regulation could be a career into. athletes as it has been slow in syria and it s an initiative tactic domestic violence by teaching men not to be used their wives. i m christine wonderwall comes to news africa i m glad. it s a decision that could reshape the world. of this month s south africa runa cost us a man you lost to a case at the court of arbitration for sport she was appealing rules intended to stop female athletes with high to stall strength navels from competing in women s track races on monday south africa s athletics federation said it would challenge this latest decision but samantha is far from being the only affected runa kenya s moderate one boy has also faced questions about her strength of all she s often raced against him and yet now worries korea could be brought to a premature end. for most athletes it doesn t get much better than winning an olympic medal margaret boy took bronze in the 800 meters behind south africa s superstar when a caster semenya at the 2016 rio games but one boy s success is caused unwanted scrutiny bringing questions about her gender and have very identity. we have no room to leave well we know this is the high time we are feeling that because you can t we are just natural we did not know. that does not. like so many boys affected by the i.w.a. apps into sex rules which target female runners with high testosterone levels the idea of a layoff world athletics governing body says the rules are needed to ensure fair competition for women s track events but they ve also left intersects athletes in the dark one boy just $24.00 is now wondering 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of it s all athletes like one boy who simply just want to race. for more on the story i d like to bring in bruce some money from where he is in bonn good to see you bruce so we know she won bronze at the 2016 olympics but what more can you tell us about muggeridge one voice at the lasix korea years christine. was born in central highlands that s the town of neary and she came into the limelight when she won a gold medal of the 24 teen idol if junior championships since then she s worked so hard to establish herself at the top level in fact if you ask me she comes 2nd after custis in india in the 800 metres world ok speaking off the main i think one thing that can be said is that south african authorities have really been garnering support behind her we know that the appeal that they announce is pretty much been headed up by the country s athletics federation but i wondered about whether the kenyan at the 6 bodies also supporting athletes like margaret and others in kenya. quite frankly 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having high levels of testosterone but it s. including one boy and 2 other sprinters were dropped just last week but it s a case that is being looked into especially after the new rules came into effect on may 8th that that little skinny body will still be checking into the athletes and trying to find out who else. is having high levels of testosterone and acting up on ok. thank you welcome. our next story takes us to syria leone way of violence against women is endemic just a few months ago the country declared the soaring levels of rape and national emergency and try to put a stop to this physical and sexual violence has led some organizations try some unusual approaches we take a look at one that s getting men to go back to school to learn how to stop abusing their wives. didn t sound warm up in why did. i used to meet my wife i would come home late and bang on the door. and walk out without pause. we never sat together and talked there was no peace between us. is where time and 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the group is a new. one and well that s good for. the father but that a mother and the others attend her twice a month. what are they going to do with the loss of. discussions can get he went teachers like bottom out of a nurse educate students on the necessity of changing their behavior one that s deeply rooted in sierra leone male dominated society. a man is the head of the family he s the breadwinner and has all the rights many see violence against women is a fact of life and poverty makes the situation worse some of them sometimes if men can t bring home any money then the women ask about food if they don t let up off the bat and the men get even angrier gets angry. also didn t have any money or a job and he beat his wife. now and husband school he learns about gender equality and that his wife is his partner not his property. and that to me. i mean i drank and smoked up and then i d let my frustrations out on her do we if i came home later and my wife was there i would kick at the door and off she asked questions i would hit her. we took up be done. and his wife hala are carrying water home together. it looks harmonious but however remains traumatized by the experience of abuse. mosul has been helping out at home ever since he joined the husband school is still how it s wearing her memories. now going on when he started beating me i just used to hide but then it got so bad that i had to leave for a year now things have got better he doesn t beat me anymore and the children can finally attend school but he still gets in a bad mood and is threatening when he doesn t have money. violence and exploitation were a part of life during sierra leone s decade long brutal civil war in the 1990 s. the country passed a domestic violence law in 2007 punishing abuse by up to 2 years in jail but it s difficult to enforce women s rights even with a special police force designed to assist families and women in particular. women are not given the power in a little do business they don t have the source is like getting loans from bugs in all. being said you know that is something to do for this that i heard today about a 1000 men attend the 15 husbands schools in sierra leone when they re accompanied by their hardness the sessions are called how mama that s when debate can get heated and loud. but they are dealing with their problems openly and without violence. it would signal make out they want to get rich on the idea we might order if we set a good example to our children then perhaps the next generation won t be to it s women it is sissy you know you do so. it s difficult to change social structures. that have existed for centuries but here in the village. they re trying to do just that. and that is it for now from news africa as always you can catch all our stories and on our web site at face book page today will leave you with pictures off the kenyan olympian language walked away she s new rules regulating high levels of testosterone in women but as the 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come out clearly to support or defend the. ruling of the court of arbitration in sport saying that i mean it s been a simmering issue even within their own athletes in kenya who ve been complaining of unfair competition they say they are running against women who have high levels of testosterone and so they had to take the action if officials say that they didn t want to cause a scene traveling with 2 athletes who have high levels of testosterone and or so one of the official said that they hedged to. 12 would conflict with the world or at least body right how many kenyan athletes opposition effected by the new rules by the i. so far it hasn t been so clear but from these 3 who have been found having high levels just around that is. including one boy and 2 other sprinters were dropped just last week but it s a case that is being looked into especially after the new rules came into effect on may 8th that the athlete is going to but he will still be checking into the athletes and trying to find out who else. is having high levels of testosterone and acting up on ok. thank you welcome. the next story takes us to sierra leone way of violence against women is endemic just a few months ago the country declared the soaring levels of free and national emergency and try to put a stop to this physical and sexual violence has led some organizations to try some unusual approaches we take a look at one that s getting men to go back to school to learn how to stop abusing their wives. didn t sound i hope they why did. i used to meet my wife i would come home late and bang on the door god awful and walk out of course. we never sat together and talked there was no peace between us. is. time and time again he beat me for no apparent reason not just because once to talking openly about domestic violence has become commonplace and. ever since male villagers were sent back to school almost all of the husbands here regularly battered their wives just like omar us where i come. from many families life was tell. me and always stay with me. sometimes i can always see the end up with my uncle and i saw how he beat his wife me so i copied that he did your congressman as an adult i did the same to my worry that it will be out. of my. nowadays ammara treats his wife with respect he helps with the housework and accompanies her to the doctor things he never would have dreamt of doing before instead he regularly got drunk and spent time with a girlfriend and beat his wife. but not as you might think. i lived in fear and i cried a lot i know that it s awful i couldn t leave him because i didn t want my children to suffer. one not to say it was he treated me so girly and had a mistress in the cruise a new. one and well that s good for. the father for that a mother and the others attend her husband s twice a month. what are they going to do it was the. discussions can get he went teachers like a nurse educate students on the necessity of changing their behavior one that s deeply rooted in sierra leone male dominated society. a man is the head of the family he s the breadwinner and has all the rights many see violence against women is a fact of life and poverty makes the situation worse some of them sometimes if men can t bring home any money then the women ask about food if they don t let up after that and the men get even angrier gets angry. also didn t have any money or a job and he beat his wife. now and husband school he learns about gender equality and that his wife is his partner not his property. and that to me. i mean i drank and smoked up and then i d let my frustrations out on her in the media we if i came home later and my wife was there i would kick at the door and she asked questions i would hit her. we took up be done. and his wife hala are carrying water home together. it looks harmonious but however remains traumatized by li experience of abuse. has been helping out at home ever since he joined the husband school is still how is wary of her memories. now and i know that when he started beating me i just used to hide but then it got so bad that i had to leave for a year now things have got better he doesn t beat me anymore and the children can finally attend school but he still gets in a bad mood and is threatening when he doesn t have money. the. violence and exploitation were a part of life during sierra leone s decade long brutal civil war in the 1990 s. the country passed a domestic violence law in 2007 punishing abuse by up to 2 years in jail but it s difficult to enforce women s rights even with a special police force designed to assist families and women in particular. given the power. do business they don t have the source is like getting loans from you know. being said you know that is something to do for does that i have today about a 1000 men attend the 15 husbands schools in sierra leone when they re accompanied by their partners the sessions are called how mama and that s when debate can get heated and loud. but they are dealing with their problems openly and with violence . would signal make out they want to get rich on the idea what order if we set a good example to our children then perhaps the next generation won t be to it s women it is sissy you know you do so and. it s difficult to change social structures. that have existed for centuries but here in the village. they re trying to do just that. and that is it for now from news africa as always you can catch all our stories and on our website at face book page today will leave you with riches off the kenyan olympian language. that new bad rules regulating high levels of testosterone get women but is the signal the end all for korea when extract i ve.