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tripoli is fighting for its life. benghazi a relatively free city. and this fight between the new libya, living on hope now, and the old libya, living on terror, is a fight to the finish and the sanctions really don't apply to it. >> i was sitting there watching gadhafi's son, saif, who is the most presentable of all the thuggish sons and the most sort of westernized and the most polished, who does try to represent himself and has for years tried to represent to the world as the new libya. but he is as thuggish in the end, fouad, as the representatives of the old regime. >> i think these people, the house of gadhafi, they've crossed the rubicon. it's over for them. they now live in a different world. there are no more meetings in new york. they can't come to universities and be wined and dined. this is over. they are now fighting for their dominion in the only primitive way they know. if you allow me, in many ways i think of this fight -- i've been thinking about in in the last
these sanctions really don't -- this is not what this conflict is about. it's a fight -- it's a tale of two cities, if you will. tripoli is fighting for its life. benghazi a relatively free city. and this fight between the new libya, living on hope now, and the old libya, living on terror, is a fight to the finish and the sanctions really don't apply to it. >> i was sitting there watching gadhafi's son, saif, who is the most presentable of all the thuggish sons and the most sort of westernized and the most polished, who does try to represent himself and has for years tried to represent to the world as the new libya. but he is as thuggish in the end, fouad, as the representatives of the old regime. >> i think these people, the house of gadhafi, they've crossed the rubicon. it's over for them. they now live in a different world. there are no more meetings in new york. they can't come to universities and be wined and dined. this is over. they are now fighting for their