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Political philosophy. when you look at all of this, one thing i think that's getting lost in all of this is i'm not convinced every senator was on bbb, build back better. you take things like the deduction, there is many, many senators that thought 80,000 was too high. there is a lot of senators concerned about the price tag and so joe kind of was out there on the point but i think there is a lot of discussion behind it that needs to happen. it's not just the negotiation, isn't just with joe. joe will have to compromise. both joes have to compromise. but there are also other senators that will...

Especially over the last week in terms of uptick in cases and hospitalizations. we know death also could be a lagging indicator and heading into the cold weather as you mentioned. holiday season. people socializing indoors. i think that we can actually look to what's going on in europe as a harbinger of things to come. usually what happens in europe eventually happens here. i think we are going to have to be incredibly cautious over the next few weeks. have to make sure there are policies in place and to protect people. that means testing, mask wearing, you know, making sure you're indoors you...

Or received only a partial credit. so this has been very, very important. the progressives, of course, want to extend it permanently, but in the original bill it looked like it would be for four years. but now it looks like it may only be for one or two years. but the original bill also would have extended the full refundability permanently and, you know, we'll see what happens with that. again, it's an expensive measure. and what joe manchin is probably talking about with means testing, we don't really know because he hasn't provided details, is previously it required that families had some e...

The child tax credit would be suggest to means testing and only extended to one year and then the funding for home care would be reduced by $150 billion. but there's still a lot in the bill. so give us the status report of what's in it and where it stands. >> this is all part of the decisions democrats have to make when it comes to what is going to be included in a scaled back package. now they're talking about a number closer to $2 trillion and just a little below that. that is a major cut and that's what democrats are really grappling with right now and that is what the president laid out in...

The full $3 trillion, and not happy that joe manchin is at $1.5 to $2 trillion. and joe manchin wants to put in means testing for hosting new social programs. he wants to -- he's not onboard with the clean energy provisions in the bill. so the two sides actually, it's tough for me to think of any way they could be farther apart on the substance of this legislation, but part of this, i would say, is acting. is really just theater, to show that the two wings of the democratic party are at least talking. joe biden is having two sides of the democratic party, the moderates and the progressives at ...