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Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. One day before President Trumps former Campaign Manager is going to stand trial in Federal Court for Money Laundering and bank fraud in relation to his work for a prorussian Political Party in ukraine and one day after the president went on possibly his most aggressive twitter rant yet about the mueller investigation, which he called the operation an illegal scam, trumps lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, was out today wildly, desperately spinning to try to accomplish two very specific things. One, move the goalposts to say that collusion is not a crime, and two...

Chris Hayes discusses the days top news. Deliberating three days after this. I think its very sad what theyve done to paul manafort. Thank you very much. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes. The president appears to be terrified he has a quote rat in his midst. Inside the white house. That i should be clear, thats his word. Rat. Its not the kind of language we are used to hearing from the president of the United States who is, of course, entrusted by our constitution when suring the nations laws are faithfully executed and who is responsible for appointing ...

Chris Hayes discusses the days top news. So im going to be a little contrary here, chris, say i see where the president is coming from when he says this is a bit old news, my colleague, bob costa and i wrote in november when don mcgahn went before bob muellers interview team, sat down with verdicts two days straight so people have known for a long time that don mcgahn was cooperating with the investigation, that everyone who was in the white house was encouraged to voluntarily be engaged in these interviews. Now what we do know now is that after the week stories, by the times don mcgahns attor...

This, flip after gets his own independent counsel, is that not a catalytic event forgetting those other defendants to flip? >> i'll give another sample. in mob cases, this is what happened with sammy grotto, the under boss of the gambino family. when he's thinking, you know what, i know my counsel is really aligned interest with john gaudy, the boss. so, he got word to be able to go to the judge and say, i need to talk to an independent counsel. and i don't trust that if i go to my own council that it's i'm gonna get the right advice. in that situation, it could be that will get killed if i sa...

They don't have a reason to be thinking this is a problem or there's an issue, and they are the company saying, this is standard procedure. it takes somebody with cassidy hutchinson's moral integrity. here the chief judge in d.c. interceded to say, you should at least speak to independent counsel before you make a decision that you want -- >> that seems like a critical step. that happens in mob cases a lot. of course, what happens, as soon as get independent counsel, and advises them the person's like, oh, now i've got it. this person may not have my best interests at heart. they may be passin...