A look at the day s latest news and headlines. manafort to try to get evidence on president trump that could result in impeachment. this judge who later ruled the trial could proceed has been very critical of the government s team throughout and they are now filing motions complaining that he is prejudicing or misleading or confusing the jury with his quips. they ve gotten him to admit he was wrong once in open court, but today he ignored their complaints. he constantly asked them how long the individual segments of the trial they are going to take he wants them to go as fast as possible. it was the judge today who delayed the start time by five hours. the jury was reminded very quickly how important it is they don t talk to anybody including each other about the details of this case. we have no idea why a 9:45:00 a.m. starting time got pushed back to 2:30 p.m. and we aren t going to find out immediately. the transcripts have now been one point telling one of the prosecutors are you crying? martha: these are not tears in my eyes. it s sort of personal. the judge got slapped a little bit, he had to apologize. it is very dramatic and makes for great tv, the question is in terms of this city, is this going to tieback in any meaningful way to the president? if not, it s fleeting drama. martha: that s the perry mason moment that the president has said is not coming. in terms of the president and the campaign we watched him in the races that we saw this weekend were learning a little bit more how they are targeting exactly where he goes. your thoughts on what the head of the 2020 campaign says we re looking at rnc numbers going into the states into doing it in a very targeted way. the trump campaign was much more sophisticated in its use of data than most people thought in their social media presence. we were so much bigger and better at data and targeting voters, to think they had any influence is in his mind. he thinks democrats have been a little bit intimidated by their get out the vote again, what do you say? that s an interesting tactic to put out there and try to scare people but it s not actually the reality. as these guys have already pointed out there s a big difference between having president trump come out in a primary situation where 88-90% of his base supports him, it s a completely different thing when it comes time for the general. you have to own that. as byron said his approval rating is at 42%, his disapproval rating is below 53%. i think he could do a lot more good for his party, not that i m here to give him advice, but he often gets in the way of republican candidates and himself by stepping on opportunities to amplify some of his own good news. he has had some good news. instead, he tweets about russia so that s what people are talking about. martha: he s been told that a lot i don t think that s going to change anytime soon. the boston globe coordinated editorial attack on the president is what they re trying to arrange, byron? and i the president using the phrase enemy of the people to describe the press is a bad thing to do because of its soviet origins. martha: he thinks it s a good idea. i don t think you should do it. the fact that somebody in the press are biased against him, there s so much coverage that is biased you might think instead of this collective action against the president, they might look inside a little bit to see our way to oppositional? are we too easily distracted, do we spend more time with michael avenatti then at important issues? other things we can do, have we change the way we do business because of this unique presidency. i think more introspection would be a good idea. i don t know about that. the media made this president, as much as he wants to moan and complain about the media, the reality is the media made this president. i don t know about that. martha: are playing right into his hands? what s worse? organizing a day where you recognize the importance of free press as protected by how was the press not free? name any press institution that is weaker now than when the president came into office? any press institution is weaker now during the trump presidency. they are stronger. the idea this has weakened them, it s difficult to argue. in terms of public perception it has weakened them because he s got the biggest microphone in the country and the world. we ve seen approval ratings in media outlets drop. martha: people are reading them and watching them more than ever. speak out the press has every right to push back, i do think e ganging up that s how he s going to call it, he s going to say vindication. there ganging up against me and people are going to dig their heels in deeper on both sides. martha: byron is rooting for an introspective breath moment. great to see all of you tonight. coming up here, fox news confirms tonight that iran has testfired a ballistic missile and mobilized ships in the strait of hormuz. general keane next. president trump: we will be working with our allies to find a real comprehensive and lasting solution to the iranian nuclear threat. this will include efforts to eliminate the threat of a rands ballistic missile program. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won t raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty experience the versatility of utility, with a range of suvs perfect for any adventure, at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. martha: it s plenty hot on the roof, president trump is at his summer home in new jersey but he s hardly kicking back. he s upping the ante against turkey and russia and iran. a triumvirate that is bonding over mutual and despised u.s. sanctions against all of them. the president announcing he will double steel and aluminum tariffs on turkey. he issued what he called it the most fighting sanctions ever imposed against iran and now fox news has confirmed that iran has testfired a ballistic missile or short range ship missile for the first time this year. meanwhile president trump imposed sanctions against russia for the chemical weapons attack in london. if something like a ban on bank operations follows, it will allow to a declaration of economic war and it will warrant a response with economic means, political means and if necessary other means. our american friends should understand that. martha: here now to break all of this down, general jack keane, fox news senior strategic analyst. welcome to washington. martha: great to be here! let s go around the horn here. with the firing of this missile and the mobilization and exercises they said they moved up to the summer time frame because of these sanctions, they usually do it in the fall. what do you take away from that? iran is trying to send a message to the trump team. they fired a missile after the inauguration, he came right out and sanction them, they re not going to put up with this. they haven t done anything like that sense, they re doing it now because they are pretty much on the wrong foot because of the sanctions. they are significant in terms of taking them out of the dollar financial market and spread the international market as well. shutting down gold, precious metals, automobiles, and a long list of things. next in the coming november is when we go after the oil and energy sector and that is going to be imposing on the iranians. if their economy is already in the tank and is struggling severely. their currency is almost close to being valueless end of black market is the way of doing business there. martha: if they are backed in the corner is that an option for them to block that? if they block the strait of hormuz we will take out all of their military. that s an act of war if they pull a stunt like that and they know what the results of that would be. that will push the united states iran does not want conflict with the united states. 38 years of conflict all using proxies, avoiding direct confrontation with their own military. despite the fact that they harass our ships they will fire a missile here and there, they don t want that kind of conflic conflict. martha: what about turkey? their economy is under tremendous pressure and heir mg calls to putin, a lot of confrontation there. of the political crisis goes back to the coup of 2016 when ray ship air to one and not a se nato nation included moral support, nobody spoke in his favor because he s moving that machine to authoritarian and move it toward democracy. he said i want the leader who resides in the united states to be removed, he lives in pennsylvania. we said no. he arrested a u.s. citizen who resides in turkey and that is now the famous pastor bronson, tragic that he is in he is now under house arrest. this dispute has boiled over and that is why the tariffs are being issued by the trump administration. at a time when turkey is in a financial crisis, their currency is significantly d evaluated against the dollar and inflation is spiraling up out of control. martha: they could significantly defuse this situation if they sent the pastor back. the political dispute eases dramatic the sanctions that they are imposing on turkey are going to hurt them at a time when they are in financial crisis. they ve got banks that are affected in turkey because they ve been loaning money in years. it s going to impact in europe as well, more pressure will be on erdogan but most of the pressure is going to come from his people because every single day it s getting worse. martha: iran may be the same situation and perhaps that s what we are not inciting but creating an environment that puts encouragement on people of turkey do they see an alliance there that could potentially be dangerous for us? this is over syria. the reality is the turks argument is that we are supporting the syrian kurds who are the main ground force guided by special operations ports for the united states to defeat isis in eastern turkey. they look at syrian kurds as terrorists. they are connected to a terrorist organization that is trying to topple the regime and carve out a curtis town inside of turkey and syria. they re loosely tied to them. we resent as you just mentioned a relationship that turkey has with russia and also with iran that are actually operating against our interests in syria. that frustration is there. it goes back to isis, they never would have moved to 14,006 months and 18 months 30,000 if erdogan didn t have his border open. he let it happen because he strategically made a serious mistake. he thought isis would go against the regime and take it down, he didn t understand. isis was interested in its own geography which was eased in iraq and the south in saudi arabia. martha: always good to talk to you. coming up tonight, a wake forest basketball coach, a florida man, and now a case of murder. you have one chance in a lifetime to meet because he was so rare elieve but it s all coming back me. baby, baby, baby. all you can eat is back, baby. applebee s. no mathere are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. call one today. are you in good hands? 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there s an opportunity for that, when the corner enters a finding, that s not binding on the district attorney s office, the coroner s office is in charge with a cause of death but that s not directly connected. i think the bottom line on this case indicates you end up with a very shocking results. our heart goes out to the mother and we understand wondering why this would never go beyond a simple misdemeanor assault. the problem is new york criminal law has some unique aspects that make it hard to charge someone for murder or homicide. that s not here, so we end up with a very difficult gray area in a tragic case. martha: emily, how much comes down to the power behind the punch? as the mother is discussing there and does that go to intent? the other factor here, is there is some suggestion that he was drunk. his own ability to respond to that punch are not be able to stand if that is the case would definitely buy determined in an autopsy. there s a few points viewers need to understand. the one punch killing, they aren t that rare. multiple states have passed legislation dealing with them and because the victim is often drunk, it has a higher propensity for death. it severs a back artery in the brain or if they are knocked out and hit their skull of the pavement, that s a huge hemorrhage or a skull fracture. a senate bill accounted for what was a one punch killing of a 59-year-old man in the bronx by a 17-year-old, they were aghast at the fact that this does happen. prosecutors prosecuted a felony charge for a second degree manslaughter for this kind of case. the intent is an appreciation and a disregard of this kind of circumstance, it falls squarely within that. it s much more common than we think and that s why the law in new york has accounted for it. martha: as we heard the mother say, he left the scene. they didn t hear from him for several days afterwards, what the impact of that? if it was a big kick you wilr incident, that would fold the definition but i don t think it changes the analysis with respect to whether this is a situation where he will be held responsible for murder or homicide. it s true the new york legislature has looked at changes in the law like this. one comparable change that was considered in 2016 it didn t pass. another tragic aspect to keep in mind here, from a civil liability standpoint, there is no indication that wake forest would be on the hook because this was an attack that happened outside of the scope of his employment. even if there was a judgment against him, he would probably be able to discharge it in bankruptcy. martha: how much time could he do? if it is charged as a misdemeanor, it would be within one year. martha: thank you very much, good to have both of you with us tonight. football is back in the sow are the national anthem protests. president trump is tweeting up a storm about it today. also separately here, click on man bonds. seriously. katie pavlich and wendy join me next as pie. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? 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that s flawed. we have had countless players who have written about that, we have eric reed who wrote a new york times op-ed, we have malcolm jenkins from the eagles who also wrote a washington post op-ed and these are just op-eds but we have interviews that say the reason whether protesting is racial injustice. the president said he doesn t know why they are kneeling but on june 8th he gave an interview. he said it since there kneeling for criminal justice reform, let me know who has been a recipient of this and i will see if i should pardon them. this is read to for his base. we all know why people are kneeling, but the president they were vague, the players said they love the military, i m not trying to get into it i just do something i believe in. i ve got to stand for something. if they were more specific, there was a meeting yesterday the president held about prison reform that s an issue that he cares about. it feels like they ought to be able to come together. do you think players would go to the white house and sit down and try to get somewhere on this subject? they feel as though the president has continuously attacked people of color. martha: what do they want in their protests? they want to bring attention to the issue. the president held a meeting this week talking directly about prison reform, he s willing to discuss the issue to open the doors to players and other groups to talk about the allegations that the justice system is racially biased towards the african-american community. i do want to point out there are a number of nfl players who are saying we don t want to protest the national anthem. dr. prescott from the cowboys says i would never protest, jim jones is also said that. he said this is the most inappropriate place you could choose to protest. martha: i think they should put the money where their mouth is and agree if they should bring that up to the president and say we want to talk to you. be the change that you seek. i think it s a powerful message and i think it would go a lot longer wait than what they re doing now which seems to be a mixed message and a lot of people feel is not clearly presented. i want to ask you about another topic that happened, the first lady s parents became citizens. it s obviously a personal moment for them of great meaning but when the lawyer was questioned do they come under chain migration, he said essentially yes which is something the president is clearly against, how do you square that? that the system we have now. however it s not apples and apples with the comes with the way they did this. chain migration typically, entire families comes after one person comes within a year they try to bring the whole family over and they go through the process and they don t always become citizens. the other part of this is that her parents are from slovenia, it s not a terrorist haven as the president has discussed as we ve seen in the past couple of years we ve had a number of people from countries that have terrorist ties with chain migration and their families are not vetted. as a 12 year gap between when she became a citizen and her parents. right now this is hypocrisy, it s hypocrisy at its finest were talking about chain migration and it is what it is. melania brought over her parents and they got their citizenship. we should applaud that and we can sit here and condemn individuals who do the same thing. if we take away chain migration that incentivizes people to come here illegally. as someone who is from one of those countries, nigeria, there s a lot of nigerians who come to this country and they bring their family members over. we can t say that one country is better than another, that s not fair. martha: one country is better than the other when it comes to the economy the economy, there ties to terroris terrorism. i did not say nigeria. let me finish my point, i said countries are different and that is a fact. nigeria is a lot of better than other african countries, it s better than yemen. you have to bet vet countries d on what they have to offer, whether they protect americans coming here because they have to make sure that the people comin coming martha: there has to be a process. i guess we are out of time. we can end on the light note. now there are man bonds, give me the picture. it s a terrible match. advertising is hilarious, you can switch up your hairstyle anytime you want. i think there s another picture too. what you guys think? 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my wife picked up the phone and she said it s for you. as an army survivor, we always look at our phone and the caseworker said i have a amazing for you. he asked me if i had seen the 55 boxes and i had. there are around 7,700 mias. 55 boxes it s a pretty remote possibility of being your father but you think possibly it could be. he said yes i ve seen that and he said we found one dog tag. he said it s your father s. it s amazing, i ve done this about ten times now with people and i can t get through it, i had to stop and pause and reflect a little bit, i met paul at the conference we just had to face to face and thanked him several times profusely. what they do is amazing and we don t ever know what s going on until it happens. martha: show us the dog tag tag. what goes through your mind when you look at that and you think about it being on your father s chest? i was surprised like everyone else. in all reality, we had assumed he was deceased for all of these years. that part wasn t a surprise. i didn t ever expect to have anything relating directly to him. martha: what happens next? there are as you say 55 boxes of remains and we expect more will come. do you think you will get a call that says they have found his remains? the dog tag is the only identifiable thing it was amazing, larry and i just went to a conference that they do every year for korean war m.i.a m.i.a., there were several hundred people there related in some way for the most part. i felt a little guilty because we were the only ones that had some certitude but just because as a dog tag there doesn t mean that his remains are there. there s still an untold story. there s several issues about this, the way the army issues this if you re a military person you know, there s a long chain with a dog tag and there s a short chain with a dog tag. this is the short chain. what this often is, if there s a deceased comrade, one of their buddies takes off the short chain. i don t know if this is the one that one of his friends took off and later he was killed and this became removed from the body or if this was one that was still with the body. there s still a lot of uncertainties. of all of those people, we have some certitude about my father. martha: were glad that is the case, we ve talked to other families who are waiting for some kind of something and i know it stays with your family all through your life. it s something you carry with you and we thank you very much for sharing it with us and we are glad that you have your father s dog tag now. i think that they take it seriously. martha: 24/7. thank you, quick break we will be right back withhe more. with liberty mutual new car replacement we ll replace the full value of your car. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty you wouldn t accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? 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expression, is watching and waiting. a handful of white nationalists, just two dozen, gathered within sight of the white house earlier. thousands more met them head-on during a rainy night here in the nation s capital. and i want to start with our team of reporters that has been out in the rain all day and night. i want to start with garrett haake. garrett, you started your day at the metro meeting this small group of protesters, frankly. can you walk us through what you ve seen over the course of today? sure, kasie. it was clear from the word go that this rally was not going to be everything that it was advertised as. when organizers put it together, they had told people to meet at the metro in vienna, virginia around 2:00 so they could come into the city as a big group and a show of force examiand for th own protection. they got their protection from mpd once they made it to the district of columbia. there was no show of force. only two dozen or so with jason kessler the organizer of charlottesville last year, and doing the unite the white rally 2.0 here in d.c. today, the disorganization, the disunity, the lack of message was clear from the start. most of these folks showed up. they didn t even have metro cards so they marched into the vienna metro station and then marched right up to the metro card machine and had to slow themselves down to buy fare to get into the district. and the message was muddled from the word go as well. kessler tried to tell me in an interview that this was not a racist event, that this was all about free speech. then i started talking to some of the people who showed up with them and two young white supremacists, there is really no other word for it, told me they considered white americans to be the founding stock of this country. and if you weren t a white european american, you were somehow less american than they. so no message unity. the ride in on the train was probably the highlight of the day for these guys because they had the press attention to themselves. and when they got into the city they were completely and utterly overwhelmed by the thousands of counter protesters that swarmed them every step of the way from the metro here to lafayette park behind me and stayed with them all day long until they left. garrett, can i ask you, i ve seen some traffic and some people frankly raising questions about whether these white nationalists were given separate cars on the metro to bring them in to washington, d.c. since you were there, what did you see? i was on the train. there was a car that was entirely white nationalist and reporters, but i don t know that that was done under the direction of anyone except people on the platform who also looked around and decided they didn t want to be in a metro car full of white nationalists and reporters. there were other people on that train coming in from vienna, but they were riding in different cars. it s not clear to me that that was done at the direction of police. rather, just some good sensible virginians who looked around and said there s probably another car on this train they d rather ride in. i absolutely want to be no part of this. garrett, thank you. jeff bennett, can you talk us through what you ve seen from your vantage point? and also obviously after this happened in charlottesville, just one year a go, all the attention turned to president trump and his really response or lack thereof to what we had seen in the streets of charlottesville. how are things different this year? kasie, you re 100% right. look, jason kessler, the organizer behind unite the right, the rally last year and this sequel rally, initially wanted to hold the follow-up in charlottesville. but he was denied a permit there the so he turned his attention to washington, d.c. and the national park service approved his permit for what he called a white civil rights rally because the national park service says that they are forced to approve any first amendment rights event. so he thought he was going to be coming in closer proximity to president trump, even though this is a weekend in which we know president trump is at his private golf resort in bedminster where he s finishing up his week there. but we ve seen the president just yesterday sort of issue that preemptive tweet where he says, i condemn racism on all sides. so some people have really characterized that standing in stark contrast to what he said last year where he drew this moral equivalence between the white nationalists, the white supremacists and those who were protesting against him. however, some people have read that same tweet and said, look, the president still can t condemn these white supremacists. he can t call out their bad acts. so we had this tweet from the president today, ivanka trump, the president s daughter and white house aide added her voice to all of this saying she condemns specifically racism, white nationalism, nazism, says it has no place in our country. so the question is what will the president say when he s in an unguarded, unscripted moment and he gets a question about this, whether it s an oval office spray, whether it s a south lawn scrum, whether he s going to do an event tomorrow. there will be some press pool reporters there. what will he say when he s caught off guard? i think that will be far more illustrative and far more instructive. kasie. and we should note of course, jeff, the permit that was given to mr. kessler was for upwards of 400 people. he showed up with just two dozen. jeff bennett, thanks very much for your reporting. we ll be checking back in with you tonight. sure. meanwhile i want to welcome in my panel with me on set, former rnc chairman and political analyst, michael steele. whouts reporter for l.a. times and nbc political analyst eli stokols. polster and msnbc political analyst cornell belcher and the president of the national urban league and former mayor of new orleans, mark morial. thank you all for being here tonight. michael steele, i want to start with you as somebody who is there is a lot being ascribed to what i think is still your party, although you have had some major differences over the course of the last year. we re working that out. but what do you read into what you saw today with this frankly dismal showing, and what the president had to say about it so far? i kind of ignore the showing in all of that. that s melodrama that will play itself out one way or the other. 24 people, 400 people, that is what it is. how that is ultimately framed in my view is what we have relied on in the past and that is a president who speaks into the moment and clarifies and defines where we are as american citizens when it comes to this type of hate-filled response to fellow americans. and the fact that the president is giving us sort of, you know, sort of a lightweight response on twitter. hate racism of all kinds. okay, but we re specifically talking about this, all right? can you narrow it down for us just a little bit with respect to what s happening in your front yard? and the fact that he still can t do that, that to me is the lesson that every american should take from what we see this weekend. mark morial, to michael steele s point, the president is not out front leading on this tonight. the rally by the unite the right group is an absolute flop, a failure, a poor showing. 30 people and all of this anticipation, all of this mobilization, all of the public resources spent by the city of washington and the federal government and the taxpayers for 30 people to show up. but secondly, this was an opportunity for the president to make a forceful unequivocal statement. go look at mitt romney s statement. look at ivanka trump s statement. those statements are more on mark of the type of statement we d like to see the president make. this is a moral moment. this is a moment where we expect the president to speak unequivocally. he seems to not be able to really get to the point where he condemns this awful ideology of nazism and anti-semitism. we need him to lead at this difficult and challenging time in american history. we haven t heard that. and i think we should hear it. cornell belcher, first of all, your perspective on what we ve seen unfold in the streets of washington today. what kind of lasting damage might president trump be doing to public relationships with the gop for african americans thinking about where can i have a home? right, where can i have a home is a big issue. we ve seen in a lot of polling and cbs polling, we did polling in battle ground for african americans for black pac. you have over 70% of americans thinking that racism is on the rise, right? and a majority think their communities are under attack. so that s the sort of reality for minorities, for many minorities who thought so much of this was in the past. we are again watching ku klux klan and white supremacists march through the streets of washington, right? but i also at the same time, to the chairman s point on this, the 30 people showing doesn t mean anything, right? because we understand it s a strategy they re going underground. and when you look at sort of the racism that i think trump is making okay again in this country, that s going to hurt us long term because one of the things i talked about before is we re not going to get whiter as a country so we better figure out how to live with each other whether you re republican or democrat. we have to do a better job of figuring out how to live with each other and the president must play a central role in that. yeah. eli stokols, from a political perspective, this is a president who feeds off crowds. he watches what happens in front of him. he tosses things out to the crowd. he sees how they react to it and oftentimes he ll continue to say something because it seemed to resonate. it does president seem to me that this small group of extremists really had any sort of showing that should suggest that this is something with a real constituency. if he s watching tv tonight, and we have no reason to think he s not, because he watches tv pretty much every day. he s seeing this and he is not going to take satisfaction, he s not going to claim credit. if anything, he might distance himself from it. but before he could see the crowds as everybody here has pointed out. he had a chance to make a strong statement condemning not all kinds of racism, but specifically white supremacists. the president is really good at giving these mealy mouth statements open to interpretation so he can say, i condemned racism. what do you want me to do? but he can leave enough room there for people who want to march in these rallies or attend these meetings or pop off on facebook with racist ideas, he can leave enough daylight for them to think, he s actually with us. that protest that we saw in charlottesville a year ago, that hadn t been seen before donald trump was president and from all the reporters who were in the crowd talking to people, the majority of the white supremacists who showed up believed rightly or wrongly that this president was on their side, that he understood them differently than past presidents, past political leaders before and there was an excitement about that. and if that is not the case, it s incumbent on the president to send a stronger message to say, i do not support this and as yet he has not. michael steele, this is a question that chuck todd asked of a member of congress on meet the press a week or tua go. he asked, is the republican party becoming the party that is fundamentally anti-black? i don t know if i ll go that far yet. we have our roots, though. we have our roots when there was a southern strategy in the nixon campaign in 68 to bring into the fold this particular ilk of person, to put it politely, this kind of trash, because there was some electoral benefit presumably that would come from it. there was no consideration given to the poison that would infect the body politic within the gop, that here we are now some 50 years later having to deal with a president, a republican president who, to the point that was just made, gives countenance to it, that gives room to that. so, the party has to now, irrespective of the president, the party has to account for this because i don t know how we go into a black community, into an hispanic community and say, come, join us, be a part of us. it s not justify to say you re conservative, not enough to say you go to church on sunday. it s not enough to put that on the table any more when you have this body of work by this administration. you ve got the rhetoric and everything else that says something very different to communities of color in this country. and it s a real problem. mark morial, jump in. i want to offer, i think it s an interesting arc, if you will, from george bush circa 2001 talking about affirmative access, appointing colin powell and later condaleeza rice as secretaries of state. a gop in the congress that had a j.c. watts in its leadership and a gop that had a michael steele as its chair. that party would seem to be maybe making small steps is a very different scene today. michael steele, a j.c. watts, a colin powell, a condee rice, they were in the republican movement in 2000s. this is a directional shift when you have a corey stewart, a patrick little as candidates nominated or candidates running under the gop banner. so i think the difficulty for the gop is not only in its leadership optics and in the president s rhetoric, but also the fact that there are no longer any credible african americans in any leadership role anywhere, it seems, in the congress or in the executive branch. it s hard to make up a particularly when you ve got a changing landscape in the country not to even mention the lack of latino leaders in the very same party. so you ve got to look at this in terms of where it s come from maybe 15 years ago to where it is directionally in the wrong direction if you consider the demographic shifts in the country for the gop. fair points. we are just getting started here on kasie d.c. we re going to take you back live to the streets in washington as some of the most dramatic moments come from antifa protesters. plus reality show plot twist 15 years in the making. omarosa throws the book at the president. we re back after this. -morning. -morning. -what do we got? -keep an eye on that branch. might get windy. have a good shift. fire pit. last use 0600. i d stay close. morning. get ready to switch. protected by flo. should say, protected by alan and jamie. -right? -should it? when you bundle home and auto. run, alan! .you get more than just savings. you get round-the-clock protection. him to process complex information, how he is not engaged in some of the most important decisions that impact our country. i was complicit and for that i regret. welcome back to kasie d.c. omarosa has now been relegated to the list of people that the president has dismissed as low lives. that includes ted cruz, eric harryman son, and someone who is not bob costa. i wish i knew off the top of my head who it is. it is easy to forget omarosa and the president were collaborateers in one way or another for 15 years. i want you to go out to laelgz, greet these guys, and over a period of weeks you re going to decide whether or not there is somebody for you. good-bye, sweetheart. good luck, have a good time. will it work? the new show on tv one is called donald j. trump presents the ultimate merger. donald and omarosa, welcome. thank you. first of all, describe the right guy for omarosa. what kind of guy should omarosa i don t know if there is a right guy. i don t think there is any man in the world that can handle this. she s smart, she s tough, but she s good. she has a good heart, i will say that. there is a reason you liked her even though you had trouble in the beginning. i hated her from the beginning but i also loved her. and the show went to number one on many weekends as you know. are they all rich guys, who are these guys? donald chose a mixture of six wealthy guys, the other six not so much. he wanted to see who i would end up with. okay. omarosa defended the president even in the wake of her departure, some would say firing from the white house, and that includes in the wake of his response to the charlottesville rally. i would never sit nor work for someone who i believed to be a racist. many people feel that the president, at worst, is a racist and at best is a sympathizer for white supremacists. is he? donald trump is racial, but he is not a racist. yes, i will acknowledge many of the exchanges, particularly in the last six months have been racially charged. do we then just stop and label him as a racist? no. times have changed, and now omarosa is leveling accusations at the president, including that she has heard a tape of him using a racial slur. and i know it exists. and what i regret is that these people are probably trying to leverage it as this october surprise. i don t want to be a part of that. but i have heard for two years that it existed and once i heard it for myself, it was confirmed what i feared the most, that donald trump is a con, and has been masquerading as someone who is actually open to engaging with diverse communities. but when he talks that way, the way he did on this tape, it confirmed that he is truly a racist. being used by donald trump for so long, i was like the frog in the hot water. you don t know that you re in that situation until it just keeps bubbling and bubbling. it s clear in hindsight. the white house disputes many of her claims. we are going to welcome into our conversation here former u.s. attorney and former msnbc contributor, joyce vance. i want to get you into the legality of taping something in the situation room. but first you were watching the tape of omarosa and shaking your head. please do tell us what you were thinking. i was thinking so many different things. one is actually i want i know she is your bff. but she says she s not the best vehicle for this, but some of the things she said on meet the press do ring true, like he can t grasp knowledge and information. he s challenged. but she s such a bad vehicle on it because the idea that omarosa didn t know that he was a racist and omarosa didn t know he was a bad person until the point where she was benefiting from it, right? and it s just, it s sad to see reality television has eaten our culture and now it s eaten our politics. michael steele, the difference between racial and racist, i mean she seemed to be kind of really struggling to make that distinction at first. it s silly, it is silly. you know, he s being racial. oh, okay. no, racist. just call it what it is. a spade a spade. and the fact is she couldn t at the time because she was all up in it. she was, you know, in the white house. she was part of trump world doing her thing. and now she is presumably outside of that. i m still not convinced that that s really the case. those two are two sides of the same coin, all right. and she s talking about, you know, he calls her low life. well, donald, that s your low life. you created that low life. you gave impetus to that. so now you re reaping what you sowed and we re supposed to fall down and go poor omarosa? please, spare me. we have one of your tweets to put on the screen. i m not sure if it has to be bleeped. omarosa, when you said every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to president trump. does that include you? #not credible. when she sort of broke into the news cycle with the book and some of the early interviews on this, that interview that she gave where she looked into the camera and very seriously told america that all of you detractors, all of you who ever said a bad word about donald trump, you will bow down to donald trump. i m sitting there going, does that include you? because clearly you re one of those detractors. so it is so disingenuous. it is so reality tv yid. and i agree with you, cornell. this is now an infection of our politics and it s unfortunate. so for all of us, we should just kind of stop it. yeah. so, the part of chuck s interview from earlier that is possibly drawing the most attention is a secret recording that omarosa claims she made in the situation room, the situation room. as she was being removed from the white house for what chief of staff john kelly called, quote, integrity violations. i think it is important to understand that if we make this a friendly departure, we can all be, you know, you can look at your time here in the white house as a year of service to the nation. and then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future relative to your reputation. white house press secretary sarah sanders just released a statement tonight that reads, quote, the very idea a staff member would sneak a recording device into the white house situation room shows a blatant disregard for our national security and then to brag about it on national television further proves the lack of character and integrity of this disgruntled former white house employee. so, joyce vance, just kind of from your perspective as a former law enforcement official, is she in any legal jeopardy here doing something like this? i mean, is there anything she s opening herself up to? also, did you read anything into kind of what john kelly said to her at the top? it sounded to me like he suspected she might be recording the entire thing, making mention to lawyers that were present in the room, and then refusing to explain further. there is likely a technical crime or two that s been committed here. obviously prosecutors don t choose to prosecute every technical crime that s been committed, but she probably should get herself a lawyer and be in consultation. i think your second point is a pretty interesting one, though. typically i wouldn t think that the president s chief of staff would need to take an employee into the situation room to fire them. and it seems like he may have taken her into the situation room contemplating that as a secure facility, she wouldn t be able to take a phone or another recording device in with her. and it s an incredible lapse, frankly, of security in this white house that she was in the situation room with a phone at all, whether it was recording or not. so, a lot of different layers here to peel back. eli stokols, what is your sort of view on this as somebody who has covered the interactions of this white house? are you surprised by john kelly s conductor by the fact that this phone was in the situation room? or is it actually just how business is done? no, i mean, the omarosa episode of this presidency is the least surprising one that we ve seen yet, right? this is a reality tv president, we have a reality tv contestant. they put her in the white house. she was fired in season one. like, what do you think is going to happen? the fact is there has never been any process or protocol in this west wing. that s part of it. and so in a normal administration it would be shocking that someone like omarosa would be in the situation room with a recording device. or just in the situation room at all. exactly. but this is not you know, when the white house comes out and puts out these statements, the other day it was the president who directed staff to put out the first statement he wanted to respond to this book. they put out another one today about the interviews this morning. this is bothering the president. he doesn t like it. and the statements make sense. it does reflect on omarosa s character to be doing this. but the question always comes next. why was she there? why was she given this position? why was she given $180,000 taxpayer salary? i think we know what the answer is. the answer is there were not a lot of minorities who were willing to go you took our answer, tokenism. it s hard to say when you re a reporter reporting on this white house, but there are not there s nobody else in there. kellyanne conway got a question this morning, who is the next highest ranking black official in the white house? she s pretty good in these interviews at vamping and she was stumped. so let me clarify the record for everybody. take us back in time between november and january and then january till about march of this year, of 2017. when you talk about african americans coming into the whouts,whoutite house, i was part of a small group that put together a very comprehensive list of african-american republicans who had served in prior administrations who were willing to come in and assist this president and to transition and all of that. you know who blocked those very same african-americans from getting the consideration they would want or need to have a position in the administration? none other than the one and only omarosa. so, you know, this plaintiff cry about, i m the only african-american well, that s how you wanted it because you blocked the people that we had put together to submit to the white house through chris christie and his team at the time, and that didn t happen. so don t cry that river. you have this epiphany when you re trying to sell a book. she s known for a decade. also remarkable, i m sorry we have to press pause. when we continue, rudy giuliani says that conversation between the president and joimames come about letting go of the michael flynn investigation, filed a big if true. back with more kasie d.c. after this. need a change of scenery? this is the president speaking. i hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting flynn go. he is a good guy. i hope you can let this go. now, those are his exact words. is that correct? correct. and you wrote them here and you put them in quotes. correct. i took it as a direction. all right. this is the president of the united states with me alone saying, i hope this. i took it as this is what he wants me to do. that was former fbi director james comey testifying before congress back in june of 2017 about the now infamous conversation he had with president trump about michael flynn. now the president s lawyer rudy giuliani is claiming that conversation never happened. directly contradicting his own comments from just a month ago. so you re saying that president trump and james comey never discussed michael flynn? that is what he will testify to if he s asked that question. they already know that. so why are they asking us for him to repeat what they already know under oath. and you re also saying that a month ago you didn t tellance news that he said something along the lines of of course not. can you give him a break? i did not. i said that is what comey says. how is he a good witness for the president if he said the president is asking him in his words to direct him to let the flynn investigation go? he didn t direct him that. comey says he didn t direct him to, can you give him a break. you said that. i also said before that i m talking about their version of it. lawyers argue in the alternative. i know it s complicated but my goodness we ve been over it long enough. why would i say something that isn t true? dear jesus. joyce vance, the disdecemberibling we often get from rudy giuliani on whatever iteration of the defense that they are trying to mount on the president s behalf whatever they are trying to claim, this seems like a remarkable and very clear instance where rudy giuliani did acknowledge that that conversation, some version of that conversation, had taken place. and now he is saying that it didn t. i think we re long past the point, sadly enough, where we can take anything that comes out of giuliani s mouth at face value. he s here to run a p.r. strategy for the president to either confuse the american people or simply to turn them off to the point where they won t be outraged when the president s multiple failures, including the failure to testify come to light. and if we get to the point where there are impeachment proceedings. this is really about keeping the public from demanding that their elected representatives move forward with impeachment, much more than it s a legal strategy. but if this is true and if the president, in fact, can test jim comey s statement, then the best way for him to clear this up is to agree to do that interview with special counsel robert mueller, to go in and to temperature hitell his version of what happened, to give him krebltd poincredibilitd let the special counsel zero out the investigations comey has made. the president s failure of willingness to do that cuts against jim comey s comments. is there any way to prove this, the president insists the conversation with comey never happened, and comey says it did? how do prosecutors figure out who is telling the truth? sure. so, it s a he said/she said sort of situation. and if prosecutors were going to file charges about this specific incident, they would have to believe that they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the president did this. it could be part of a conspiracy or some other charges, but if they re directly going to talk about this incident, they ve got to be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. if it s just jim comey s word against the president s, then i wouldn t expect them to go forward. but that s not to say that there couldn t be some circumstantial guarantees, including the fact that the president ushered, in effect, everyone else out of the room for this very unusual one-on-one conversation between the president and the fbi director. of course. okay. meanwhile, the president snuck in a broadside against attorney general jeff sessions in a tweet yesterday calling him, quote, scared stiff and missing in action. and it certainly wasn t the first time he s publicly shamed his own attorney general. let s run through some of the other notable examples. in a july 2017 tweet, the president called him, quote, beleaguered. a day later he said he had taken a, quote, very weak position on hillary clinton crimes. after sessions appointed an inspector general to investigate potential fisa abuse instead of doing it himself in february, he called the decision disgraceful. who could forget trump was referring to his attorney general as, quote, mr. mcgoo. eli stokols, how is the attorney general affected when the president of the united states is talking about him in such fashion? i don t know that he is. he s recused himself. that s why the president is angry at the end of the day. he s not having any impact on that. the president as much as he likes to spout off on twitter does not really like to fire people. so that s why sessions is still there. and, you know, i think the you re fired president doesn t like to fire people? that s the reality. he has the ability to fire sessions if he wants to. he hassan t done that even despe talking about it on twitter. i have a twist on it. i do think jeff sessions is very is doing exactly to a certain extent what he wants to do and what the president wants to do because when you look at the way he s rolling back a lot of common sense criminal justice reform acts fair. and when he s throwing out a lot of work the obama administration did, right up the street in baltimore around reforming around reform, he s rolling that back and trying to implement the 1980s law and order sort of nonsense we threw out a long time and locking more people up and building more prisons. he s very effective at that. we often talk about him in the context of russia. that does get overlooked. lie stokols, joyce vance, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. still to come, white nationalists and counter protesters take to the streets here in d.c. one year after the deadly riot in charlottesville. but for many today was also a day of mourning. we re back after this. okay we need to get all your school supplies today. school.. 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heyer was killed one year ago today after a man drove his car through a crowd of counter protesters during last year s white nationalist rally. she was just 32 years old and her mother, who you saw there, was laid flowers today on the makeshift memorial and two state troopers were killed as they tried to keep the peace in the streets of charlottesville. mark morial, i want to ask you. we talked a lot about how damaging this resurgence of white nationalism and white supremacy is to our national conversation, but the flip side of it is that we have seen a lot of americans stand up, take to the streets and say, no, this is not, this is not who we are. we are standing against this hateful speech and language and, you know, in some ways it could be viewed through the most positive possible lens as an opportunity for people to show courage. well, i think people have shown courage out of necessity. i think there is a sense that this white supremacist movement can, because of the climate of the country, because of the rhetoric in the white house, become legitimatized and become a normalized political force, which is extremely dangerous for the future of the nation. but what it has done is lit a fuse, lit a fuse of activism among young people. it s compelled people to get organized. it s compelled people to examine their own commitments and their own consciousness. and i think that what it is doing is fueling look at the response. 30, if you will, neo-nazi alt-right unite the right protesters and thousands of people in opposition and a lot of conversation going on on social media in support of the same. so, you are right, but this is a necessity. i think this generation, my generation, your generation, we re saying we are not in today s climate going to allow the hands of time to be turned back without a fight, without a vigorous fight, without a passionate fight, without a political fight. we cannot let it reoccur. we cannot let it be normalized. all right. cornell 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reverberating in the race in illinois s third congressional district as the republican party s sole candidate, arthur jones, has past neo-nazi ties and is a holocaust denier. jones is running despite the national party disavowing his candidacy. here s a look at what he said during an interview with nbc news morgan ratford back in june. do you think black people are genetically inferior? the average iq of a black person is about 20 points lower than the average iq of a white person. i want to harvard. all right. and you got a lot of white blood in you, too. some white blood. i m african-american. well that s where your intelligence is coming from, you think? you think it comes from my white side? i think so. unbelievable. but for those unenthused about casting their vote for him or for democratic incumbent daniel la pinsky, an independent candidate has emerged. justin hanson joins me now on set. justin, thanks so much for being here. let s start simply you launched your campaign in your backyard and you had an unwelcome visitor. we did, we had an unwelcome visitor at our family rally. it was a group of family friends getting together to get excited about this campaign and where we re going and art jones decided to show up to the campaign rally. so what ensued? he challenged you to a debate? he came to the i was given a heads up that he might be coming to confront me at the rally that was in my backyard and he challenged me on some the idea that he tricked voters into voting for him in the primar primary. i asked him to leave my home. he challenged me to a debate on the holocaust. to debate whether or not the holocaust exists. yes, which is ridiculous. so you re running as an independent, you worked for republicans in the past. why should people vote for you over dan lipinski and what s your rationale for mounting this long shot write-in campaign. so the reason why i m running there are two reasons. because when voters in the third district go to the ballot box this november, they don t have a choice they deserve. their first choice is a nazi holocaust denying homophobic bigot white supremacist. that s the first choice. the other choice is dan lipinski. he s a nice man but he s a long time incumbent, 13 years in office, he doesn t have a good track record as far as his legislative accomplishments go and he s inadequately represented the district. the second reason why we re running is because it s just important to my wife and me that in today s day and age they re able to be a good example to our kids about what it means to stand up to hatred. that s something republicans in washington get criticism for. i cover capitol hill everyday. we re repeatedly asking republican members of congress to weigh in on the latest tweet and there was some condemnation from leadership after the charlottesville rally. do you feel like you could have a home in the republican party of donald trump or not? i don t know. i think if we are able to win in november i think it would send a loud signal to the rest of the country the voters of my district would send a loud signal to the rest of the country that people are tired of this gridlock, tired of the partisanship because a lot of people don t see themselves reflecteder fektly in either party. there s a lot of gridlock, we re not getting a lot done and i think our election would speak to that. one question some voters might have for you if they re considering not voting for democratic dan lipinski, he took a primary challenge on the issue of abortion. do you support abortion rights? abortion is a tough issue for me. it s tough as a parent and a catholic. but at the end of the day i believe that right belongs to women and that decision does not belong with the government. i am encouraged by the fact that the number of abortions sought by women every year is declining and i think everyone can agree that s a good friend that we should work to continue. justin hanson, thank you very much for being 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slowly moved its way up north. but that is the problem for a lot of people. we are hitting the top of the hour. i should mention that the power outage in new york city has now reached well past three hours. here at msnbc along with morgan radford, we ve been watching a number of different breaking news situations right now. the big news that we re getting here as we talk to you here at 10:00 p.m. we are now told at least 90,000 customers have been affected by this massive blackout here in new york city. when we first came on air several hours ago and they said that it was only about 20,000 customers, i knew that number was wrong, just based on the sheer topography. you have more than two square miles in new york city where people are in the dark. now we re being told by con edison officials that 90,000 customers which could mean hundreds of thousands of people are in the dark right now at 10:00 at night. just to do a quick reset for anyone who is joining us now. what we are facing out is a blackout in new york city. 90,000 customers conservatively have been affected. and this blackout initially spanned east to west. for those of you in new york that s between 5th avenue and the 40s to the 70s. so that s about 30 blocks of the northern part of manhattan. the fire department has asked that people only call 9-1-1 in there s an emergency. officials are asking people to avoid going underground on the subway as transportation has been heavily impacted. there are certain subway lines that are completely down. we have heard from mayor bill de blasio. he has just announced within the last hour that he will be returning to new york. he was currently at a campaign stop in iowa and through his press secretary he said that he will come back to his city. he also said there was no indication of foul play that this was a mechanical issue that was limited to a physical area. and he said there was no injuries, that anyone who needs more informations can call 311 or go to notify nyc. and in terms of the cost we are waiting to hear from con edison. hopefully they are going to do a press conference this evening. they have said that they expect that power will be back at around 10:30 eastern. but if you look at that live picture of times square that s on your screen, you can see that a majority of that screen is still black. heavy presence from law enforcement and from the fire department. they said there is a coordinated response between emergency responders. and their biggest concern tonight is keeping people save. this all happened as a result of two incidences of transformer fire and a manhole explosion. this was in a heavily commercial area in the southern part of that blackout region. and then a deeply residential area in the northern part of that blackout region. i know we ve been talking all evening about some of the ways that new yorkers are coming together in this moment. and one of the best stories that i ve seen on social media was this moment from carnegie hall. there was a concert happening, and like many of the broadway shows we mentioned, just like the j.lo show and madison square garden, this concert had to let out. when they did, people took to the streets. let s pull up the video and show how new york responds. [ singing ] so for those of you who have not been to a live concert at carnegie hall, you just got a free one out there on the sidewalk in new york city. that is how new yorkers make lemonade out of lemons. i think that we were talking earlier about how every person who lives in this city, especially since 9/11 when something like this happens our stomach initially drops. it s just the reality of the changed dna of the city and of our nation and this heightened security. but we re lucky that this was a blackout, it was a mechanical issue. so we saw new yorkers coming froth all over the city just like this concert hall and just like people who were jumping in to direct traffic. and in contrast to that, the j.lo concert was canceled. and we have video of people out there getting together singing ain t your mama. a j.lo song. people were just frustrated at the j.lo concert. let s bring in kathy park. you as an nbc correspondent here on msnbc news. you have been outside of our studio where it has been pitch black. are any of the lights coming back on? reporter: no. the lights are still out. but morgan and kendis, i had the opportunity to really speak with people from all over the world. a family from england. here i have a family from nashville. and you guys just arrived to new york city. you had plans to see wicked, which is a very popular broadway show. you are staying at the hotel. fortunately you got out after the blackout and you re walking toward gersch win theater and tell me what happened. thankfully we weren t on the elevator. we had gotten to our room ready to go. took the stairs down since the elevator was out of commission. we thought we saw lights ahead but it was just kind of spotty on the blackouts. and unfortunately got there about 7:30, and then about 8:15 they called the show tonight. reporter: the show is at 8:00, we re approaching another hour into the blackout? so what have you been doing in the city? well, we basically have just kind of been looking around, walking into shops and see if there s something to do with everything closed. reporter: what do you think of the city right now? this is probably not what you were looking forward to when you were planning a trip to the big apple. no, not really. [ laughter ] reporter: are you keeping up to date? i know. she s being very honest. but it seems like everyone is still in relatively good spirits, right, mom? yeah. it s not raining. we weren t stuck on an elevator. we weren t in the subway. so i m just thankful that it is the way it is right now and there was ice cream to be found somewhere to break the heat. reporter: exactly. a lot of these vendors just along the streets, i mine hot dogs, nuts, ice cream. those are still available. i know a lot of the restaurants are closed so that s not bad. right? no. reporter: but that s the situation though, guys. i know. i m trying to convince her. but when the lights go back on, i think her mood is going to change. like i said, this is a situation that people are kind of taking in stride. it s not tense. it s not chaotic. it s a saturday night here, so it s bustling a lot of movement here. i want to show you just kind of what we are seeing right now. obviously, that is 30 rock still dark. we have some of our generators kicking in. so that s why you have some of the floors lit up. but over to the left is radio city. and you can see that the sign is completely dark. a lot of people have been coming by taking videos, some snapshots of this. and then just kind of in the background you ll hear the fire trucks that are kind of coming through the area. and this is kind of drowning some of the noise in our shot right now. but this is something that we ve been seeing for the past several hours as they respond to various types of emergencies throughout mid-town manhattan. but it s interesting to see just how many buildings are completely in the dark. but as i mentioned some of these are lit up because of generators that have kicked in. but a lot of folks are still kind of walking around taking it all in, taking new york city in. it s a city that never sleeps and i don t know if anyone will be getting any sleep tonight. but i did talk to one family who had to walk dozens of flights of stairs because the elevators weren t working. so a lot of folks are worn out from all the walking. i guess you kind of have to get used to it here in the city. we appreciate you standing on your feet. i know you ve been out there for hours covering this story for us. so thank you for doing that. and thank you for bringing the stories to us. we look forward to coming back to you a little bit later. thank you so much, kathy. a couple of things that we re keeping an eye on right now and an ear, too. we re waiting for a press conference from con edison. i do believe as i ve looked at these images that some of the lights have an increasing number of lights have come back on or maybe it s one of those tests where if you stare at it long enough, you start seeing different sort of figures. but i do believe that some of the lights are slowly making their way back on. we have a couple people on the phone. jonathan, we ve been talking all night long about this effort to try to get all of the lights back on. we re told that they may be able to restore power come mid-might. they had said 10/30 eastern time. this was a difficult thing to get the whole grid back on, isn t it? the con ed spokesman is saying their goal is midnight to get the power back on, on the west side of manhattan. that is just a goal. crews are working they say as safely and as quickly as possible to try to restore power to the west side of manhattan. and the goal is for a midnight switch to get it back on, to get it back and running. but it is only a goal at this time. there is a plan right now to do a 10:30 press conference at west 64th and west end avenue to update on the cause of this incident which appears to be a mechanical fire transformer-type fire that spread and led to the outage on the west side. police, fire, office of emergency management personnel will be joining con ed at that press conference planned now for 10:30 at west 64th street and west end avenue. a leading nypd official says extra police have been deployed all across the west side as a precaution to help with traffic, to help with security outside many of the retailers that are now closed without power just to ensure everything remains safe. extra ambulances, extra fire trucks are also in the vicinitiy to provide assistance as a precaution. the fire department was also responding to calls of people trapped in elevators. most of them are out. i do not have a final tally on the number of people who were called in for that type of assistance and whether any remain but that there were multiple calls about that throughout the evening. but the headline now is con ed has a goal of midnight to get the power back on, and a press conference is scheduled for about 10:30 on west 64th street with police fire con ed officials to provide an update. governor cuomo saying that he is calling for an investigation into exactly what happened so lessons can be learned and upgrades can be made so that this does not happen again. he is also deploying extra state police and mta personnel as a precaution to try to help with the mobs of people who are now impacted by the lack of subway service on the west side of manhattan. again, west side has a population of about 200,000 people. of course, that grows with people coming in from new jersey and tourists and all sorts of other visitors and guests to manhattan. so, it is hundreds of thousands of people potentially affected by this. but, again, con ed giving the number of 90,000 customers. and the question was asked earlier, well, what does that mean? a customer is not a person. a customer could be an apartment that has four people living in it. so, just because you have 90,000 customers, there are likely many more people affected by this power outage as a result. so i hope that provides some clarity. midnight the goal to get the power back on. but nothing is set in stone. and as we ve seen throughout the evening, information changes, developments happen, midnight the goal to get the power back on. and, jonathan, certainly a fluid situation. i know you mentioned that governor cuomo was calling for an investigation. for those viewers who are just joining us, can you take us back to the beginning and describe what we do know thus far about that transformer and about that manhole explosion? okay. there are two incidents that took place this evening according to police and fire officials. and both appear to be accidental, electrical in nature. nothing at all deliberate. and the first one is that at 49th street on the far west side, there was some sort of fire, man hole explosion that impacted service to the west side of manhattan. a short time later on west 64th street, a transformer caught fire, exploded, on the west side there, also impacting. are the two incidents related? unclear. the investigation s going to have to determine whether one caused the other or whether they were two isolated incidents that both happened to happen tonight, regardless they believe those two incidents caused the power outage on the west side that has affected hotels, subways, apartment buildings, restaurants, and businesses, all across the west side of manhattan. this goes from the 40s up to about 72nd street. and for those familiar with manhattan, 5th avenue is the dwigd line from east to west. so it goes from fifth avenue in the middle of manhattan all the way to the hudson river. that is the area that has been impacted by this blackout. and, jonathan, i do want to note a couple of things. first off, if we can take the big shot there of times square where the lights have started to come back on, on the left-hand side of the screen. you will remember that building on the left was dark for the most part. you couldn t make out the lion king images on the left. it would appear that power is being restored there on the left-hand side which would basically be the west of manhattan. curry johnson who is a speaker of new york city council reporting that sections of helds kitchen and in the west 40s and 50s are coming back online. including the famed and brand-new, as you know, complex there, hudson yards, where the power has quickly been returned. con edison is saying power is restored on man hattan s upper west side. they are estimating more customers will be restored at midnight. we are just getting that in. so it is getting better. that is right. and catherine, craig, my colleague just reports at 50th and 9th, power just came on there. so it will be rolling. it is a progression. but if you are without power in manhattan right now, midnight is the goal. so it looks as if we are on at least the positive end of all of this. we want to continue to mention to you some other stuff that curry johnson, again, who is a really key person there. he is a speaker for the new york city council. and he was mentioning that the power outage impacted some six grids in all. and two of those are back on. many people have been saying that he is a potential mayoral candidate. and as a result he has been very out there on twitter today in contrast on the current mayor of new york city who is in an aptly named waterloo. he is returning after finding out what happened. but speaking of the leadership here, new york governor cuomo did speak to a local news station, and he said that there was a substation fire that then caused four other substations to lose power and that there was damage to those substations as a result. so we are learning a little bit more about what did cause this blackout as we get closer to the time when con edison says that power will be restored. they are estimating midnight. we are also hoping to hear with them in a press conference within the hour. and they did initially say that the power would be back on by 10:30. and we are seeing that coming into play. the subway stations that have been impacted will remain closed for a little while. there were many, many subway stations that were closed as a result of this subway trains just kept going past those stops that were affected. curry johnson continuing to say that he spoke to the ceo of con ed. he says that there are four other sections that should be back up within the next two hours. as we continue to look at these pictures there from outside the 6th avenue there, the avenue of the americas, on the other side of the hudson, we ve been seeing some beautiful images that kind of capture how dark new york has been over the last hour or last three hours. my colleague richard louis has made his way to the other side of the hudson in new jersey. and, richard, i can imagine you got a good sense of how dark the upper west side was and how it looks from your vantage point. reporter: hey, kendis. it s one of those things you and i were on air. you reporting just when the story broke. what happened is when i got off air, went downstairs, got in a car. as you look at that shot of times square, that dark space facing north is where we drove towards and through. past that actually because the other shot that we had which is in front of 30 rock where kathy park is where we drove away from. and then as we went up the west side highway for those who are locals, but it s basically the highway that runs all the way up and down the west side of the isle of manhattan. you can see that which you have been describing and reporting is all those customers 90,000 plus customers that did not have power. we just stuck the camera out the window, and you can see in that space that there was absolutely no power on. you look out the other side, and what we saw, kendis, were the emergency vehicles that you ve been describing that you ve been trying to assist. in all of those intersections and places where power s been down for quite some time, they were driving south. and then as we crossed over the hudson and were looking back, you would see that part of manhattan dark. a strange, strange sight. so here i am, and as you can tell at msnbc headquarters, these are one of those contingency plans we had planned. and so it was very strange to see all of those places dark. and of course you being an upper west-cider, me as well, a lot of folks there probably concerned about the things that need power like their refrigerators and their frozen goods. folks i know that you re saying that you don t have a family and you and morgan were talking about that for a moment. but there are families going what are we going to do with all that ice cream that is no longer ice cream, right? i wish ice cream were my biggest concern. but there are many people that are impacted by this, the elderly and a lot of folks who might have their pets as well. that they can t let out. can you imagine having a pet in an elevator trying to walk your dog and then the elevator gets trapped? right. and there are senior homes there in the upper west side that you bring up a really good point there, kendis, in what they have in terms of contingency plans, especially when we are looking at a warm, humid day in man hattin. and we can t forget that there are still some people at risk until this power does come back online in the upper west side. and it helps us also keep things in perspective. we hope that this creates more empathy. we imagine our colleagues in puerto rico who were out of power for almost a year. so this hasn t happened in like 20 years for this city. we were just talking earlier about how this is the 42nd anniversary of the 1977 blackout. that lasted 48 hours. there was significant looting, there were significant arrests. and we also saw a lot of new yorkers come together. and that s a lot of what we re also seeing now. lichd lui. in 2007 almost exactly to the date. while we re talking about these power outages there, i m noting the latest numbers from louisiana where 118,000 customers are without power. and you can see the reason why. i m going to walk over and show you what is going on because we are keeping an eye on this situation as well. so this is the center right here. of what was one time hurricane barry. it was a hurricane for roughly about two hours, and it is now a tropical storm. it is moving very slowly, eight miles an hour. we have been watching it just march up there. our biggest concern right now is baton rouge which is expected to get some 18 inches of rain. new orleans for the most part has donnelled a bullet with all ofdged a bullet with all of this. i am going to leave the forecasting and such to bill, but you can see we ll be paying attention to this line because the storm is not going to be moving much over the next few days. it ll still be a tropical depression with about 35-mile-an-hour winds once it gets to arkansas and then into tennessee. and it is impacting all of that, the mississippi river, which comes right there into new orleans is at 17 feet right now, which is above flood stage, well above flood stage. normally it s at 6 feet. so this is of concern for many people while we continue to watch the situation there in new york, morgan. and, kendis, we also have breaking news. we just heard from a con ed spokesperson. they said that two west side networks are back in power. that s on hudson and columbus. we also know that there are four more networks to go. the number without power is starting to go down, but there are no specifics yet on that number. midnight, however, is still currently the goal. and just to be clear, we are still talking about a large swath of midtown manhattan that is still without power. there s hell s kitchen which is still in the dark. times square slowly coming back to life. the northern part of that blackout region which is the 60s and the 70s, that s slowly seeing power coming back. and we ve got about an hour and a half until con edison says that they expect to see power completely restored. we ve heard from mayor bill de blasio. he is now on his way back to new york city. he was campaigning in iowa. he is running for he s one of the 2020 presidential contenders. he says he is now coming back. he waited for a while to find out exactly what the situation was and to assess the severity of the situation. meantime, we understand that emergency responders as well as new york s fire department as well as new york s police department all coming together to make sure that this city is safe. they have all said that safety is the number one priority. of course, beyond safety we have heard that no one has been injured. but beyond that we understand there s been a significant inconvenience to the city, right? a lot of dollars, a big economic impact, the restaurants have had to close down. they re losing food. a lot of people who are visiting the city have had to cancel their plans to see their favorite broadway plays. a lot of those plays have been shut down. jennifer lopez s concert, for example, has been shut down. that s right outside of where we re sitting right now. but outside you can see radio city music hall, those lights to the right of your screen, they re usually very brirkts they re a big welcomed sign to tourists, but right now they are almost completely dark. that reflects a lot of what we saw inside. we are lucky that we have lights in the studio as we speak. but the lights that we re working with right now just came on within the past hour because when we were here and we started work and we were here about 6:00 p.m., suddenly around 6:30, the lights went out and no one knew. it was fascinating because it happened during the east coast version and central coast version of the nbc nightly news. we heard this big boom in the newsroom here at msnbc at our offices. and all of a sudden the lights flickered and then the generators came back on. but i looked at the studio which is right behind us, and it all disappeared as if kate was doing nightly news by candlelight. [ laughter ] it was very, very weird to take a look at. and remember when i saw you, we were trapped between those two doors trying to get out because the electronic card readers weren t working. to let you know the security works fine. like, it ll trap you. [ laughter ] we were trying to figure out what do we do now. and then of course we found out jonathan said it wasn t just third rock, it wasn t just rockefeller plaza but that it s also way beyond that. but even before we go to jonathan, there was a really, really important new yorker who was impacted and has gone to social media. i knew you were going to go here first. go ahead them where you were going, kendis. i knew where you were headed. he s a new yorker so we knew he was going to go to the queen first. because he has a special video from the new yorker herself. the queen of the 6th train. hi, guys. i am devastated and heartbroken right now. i cannot tell you on the second night of performing at madison square garden after such an amazing night last night, i just don t even know what to say. i just want you guys to know that you re going to get your monies s worth and we are going to come back and we are going to do an amazing show for you. i am so sorry that this happened. obviously it was beyond all of our control. the building handled it really well. they did the smartest thing for everybody s safety. so, i love you. i m sorry. and i will see you all very soon. jennifer lopez. aww. it s because her concert at madison square garden. the grid was supposed to extend from the 70 to the north, the blackout to the 40s in the south, and madison square garden is at 34th street. and they had to evacuate. they started singing and then it was sort of like lights out. about three songs in, right? i m just, i m just jenny from the. similar to what beyonce did after her super bowl performance. the lights went out at the super dome. jennifer was like i can do this too. i promise not to ask you a question on the wide-reaching impact of the j.lo cancelation. but in the meantime as we wait for con ed to talk right now, any expectation on what we can hear from these officials? well, they re going to be doing this press conference in about three minutes or so. that is the goal for their press conference. we just got an update. before it was 90,000 customers without power just about 15 minutes ago. the number now stands at 32,000 customers without power. so the number is going down. two big networks were restored a short time ago. there are four more to go. lesser networks and they are working on that. the goal is midnight of service restoration. we ll hear more about that at the press conference. we ll hear from police and fire about the emergency calls they received. we have no reports so far of any injuries. and we should get an update on the number of people they had to rescue from elevators. again jonathan i m going to interrupt you because we got this presser from con ed. we ll go there live. responded quickly to the scene and we are working closely with con ed to restore power as quickly as possible. we have no reports of injuries or fatalities at this time. we also have a list of those individuals that are on life-saving equipment and we are working with them to make sure they have what they need. we have put together a joint task force with pd and the fire department to make sure that nobody is stuck in an elevator still. right now i d like to turn it over to the ceo of con ed, john mcavoy to get an update from con ed. hi. good evening. thanks very much. my name s john mcavoy. i represent con edison. we experienced a significant disturbance on the west side of manhattan at one of our electric transmissions stations at roughly 6:47 p.m. but eventually it interrupted power to approximately 73,000 customers. we provide the electric system into what we call networks which is roughly equivalent to neighborhoods. it interrupted power to six networks. we have expedited the recovery, performed an initial assessment of what was the most likely cause, isolated that equipment, inspected the other equipment to identify any obvious abnormalities. and now we have started the restoration process. of the six networks that we lost, we have restored two of those networks starting from just before 10:00 p.m. and we are working to restore the remaining four networks by midnight tonight. now, there are some unknowns in this as we restore equipment we may find damage that we re not currently aware of. but we are proceeding on a path to restore all customers, hopefully by midnight tonight. we ll then look at the root causes of the event and restore the system to a fully normal condition once we understand exactly what occurred and what caused the outages that we re experiencing today. mcavoy, do you know exactly why this happened? it s not an especially hot day, and thankfully it s a saturday in which businesses and people aren t in their offices. right. it does not appear related to excessive load as sometimes has occurred in the past. when we have an incident like this, we focus first on isolation of the failed equipment or the most likely failed equipment, and then restoration of the customers. and then when customers are restored, we really do the full investigation to identify what may have caused it. that will follow later today and tomorrow. the lights just went on behind you. how do you feel about that? that was a live press conference from con edison, the electricity supplier here in new york city. now i d like to turn to governor andrew cuomo. thank you for making time to speak with us this i think. you said the fact that it happened at all is unacceptable. what did you mean by that? um, well, thank you for having me. it is not infrequent for a substation to malfunction. a substation fire or a substation breakdown of one cause or another. the system is designed, however, to make sure that when one substation malfunctions, it does not proceed down the line through the transmission line with a surge of power and disrupt other substations. that s what happened here. one substation went down. it then triggered a surge of power, which took down two, three or four or five additional substations. and the system is designed to avoid that. so, that s the question. i m going to view the transformers myself tonight because i want to know exactly what happened. we ve been through this before. the first order of business, though, is this is a big piece of manhattan. it s roughly 40th street to about 60th street, plus or minus broadway, which is basically the middle of manhattan to the hudson river. and people are more than inconvenienced. it s a public safety issue. traffic lights are out. trains are not running. you don t want to have a city in blackout conditions. new york has been very well behaved. but chaos could ensue. so i have additional state police going down. we have the national guard on call. con ed says power should be back by 12:00. but my add jaj prepare for the worst and hope for the best. we re going to have personnel on hand just in case we don t make 12:00. you mentioned the state police is now getting involved as well as the national guard. what is your biggest concern for new yorkers tonight, governor? the number one concern is public safety. you have a number of very busy traffic intersections that have no power. you have trains that are not running. hopefully we believe we ve gotten everyone off the trains, which is subway stations subway trains in that part of manhattan. we don t have any reports of people stuck in elevators, et cetera. but you have senior citizens, you have people with medical equipment at home. right. that they need functioning. you have hospitals in that area that are operating on backup generators, which are only designed for short-term use. so it s the cluster of public safety issues. and, governor, i want to go back to something you said a bit earlier. you said that you were going to view the transforms tonight and that this was a function of the system not operating in a way that it effectively should have tonight. so, how do we prevent this from happening in the future? well, that s for the after report, but i want to see it for myself. call me a somewhat cynical new yorker. this is not the first time we ve had a power outage, but the system is designed, and this con edison is a utility that is regulated. people pay their bills. they are supposed to have a system that is designed that if a substation malfunctions there are other substations that pick up that power shortfall. and certainly that one substation disturbance doesn t ripple through the system. we ve been through that before. right. and that is not the system is designed to prevent that. so, i want to know first hand what happened. these are dangerous situations. you know, you have that density of population, that many moving pieces, that many vehicles. having a six-hour blackout, and let s hope it s only six hours, it s a dangerous situation. make no mistake. and we are doing everything we can to handle it. but it shouldn t occur. and governor cuomo, when you say that this should not have occurred, earlier this evening we heard from mayor bill de blasio. he s been campaigning in iowa, and he waited for a little bit to determine and assess the severity of the situation before he decided that he would in fact return to new york city. are you confident that in the meantime the city is in good hands while we wait? i know we have the full state team on duty. we have a state power team that is one of the best in the country, if i may say. we help other states with emergency management all the time. we just spent a lot of time in puerto rico after hurricane maria. so they are as good an emergency management team as any in the country, and they have been there from minute one, they re embedded with con ed, nypd is dispatched. we have additional state police. we have the national guard on call. so i feel confident that short-term we have handled it well. second step is will it actually be over at midnight or not? and if it goes longer, then it s a different issue, and then we get to what they call the after-action report. i want to know why and how and this can t happen again. governor, i know you have to go see those transformers tonight. so i want to give you the last word. do you have any message for new yorkers tonight? be the best new yorker today. new yorkers are accustomed to hardship. we deal with all sorts of things. this is an inconvenience. stay home. don t drive. and let s be the best new yorkers we can be. power is out, but we are going to behave with the courtcy and manners that we always do in new york. what a message. all right, governor cuomo, thank you so much for taking time it speak to the members of your state tonight and to the members of this country. we appreciate your service and thank you for going to look at those transformers. have a good rest of your evening. thank you, thank you. we just heard from con edison. they just wrapped up their press conference this evening. they have confirmed that there were no injuries, and they said that they do have a list of individuals with life-saving equipment so they re giving priority to the people who may need their assistance. they said that this outage began at 6:47 p.m. eastern here in new york city. it affected 73,000 customers. again, customers are not necessarily individuals, but a customer could be a hotel, a customer could be an apartment building. so a customer could be one person or 400 people inside of a building. 73,000 customers is the updated number tonight from con edison, which is the electricity supplier here in new york city. they said that six networks were interrupted this evening. since they have gotten two back on. they think that they will have power back on throughout the rest of the city by midnight tonight. currently it is 10:39 p.m. let s go now to kendis gibson who is outside of nbc studios. he s there on 6th avenue. kendis, it looks very dark out there. reporter: indeed. i m going to take that as another slight as how i look, morgan, but it is very fairly out here in new york city. i walked outside the building, and i will have to admit, it was absolutely surreal. you have walked outside this building many, many times. you ve walked 6th avenue, walked many of these streets. this is an iconic area, radio city, music hall. these sidewalks usually very much lit up. of course, rockefeller center normally would be lit up. this traffic light would normally be directing traffic. but instead it is completely dark, and people are just kind of milling around kind of seeming very, very lost. the street itself as you come out here, once again, the street is kind of like very, very, very kind of reminds you of i am legend. because it s so there is nobody really out here except for a few vehicles that are passing by and a few people around. now, there was a streak there that was taking place a little earlier today. so part of 6th avenue which is a major, major tloro fair. they have been able to restore power to so many of the grids especially on the west side of manhattan, this area is not restored as yet. it is a very, very important area for new york city because it does include the 5th avenue area with all those really high-end retail stores as well as high-end restaurants that are all shut as a result of this. many restaurants and i m looking at in the meantime, they are normally packed on a saturday night with tourists or even locals. they are losing out on business on an evening like this. i will tell you, though, the halal guys and all of the hot dog vendors and the regular street vendors, they are doing gangbuster business as well. but it s great to be able to know at least for the most part that it has been a fairly safe night. we have endured at least four hours of this blackout. it has brought many, many people together here in new york city. and we hope that everybody else remains safe while they finally get to restore the power in these parts. kendis, we just got breaking news that five of those six power networks have since been restored. but take me for a minute where you are outside. you said there are very few people outside now. but who is out there? is it law enforcement vehicles or are they pedestrians? who exactly is out there with you? reporter: i ll tell you for the most part these are just tourists, people who are just bewildered at what they are experiencing at this hour that, it is mostly tourists, and usually, you know, this is a big business area, as you know, morgan, on monday through friday. so you wouldn t necessarily have a lot of true new yorkers who are out here in the middle of the night. but there are probably also some leftover folks from who were here at the street festival. you know a little bit earlier on that new york city was putting out police officers at many, many businesses and at intersections across the street, not sure if you ll be able to tell, you can see a group of police officers who are right there in the middle. they are blocking that subway station. it is a popular subway station. the rockefeller center subway, and there are an increased number of police officers who are out on the street trying to make sure that the businesses and many people do remain safe. and while you had that breaking news as five of the six grids are back up and running, i can tell you where the sixth grid is. probably right here. probably right here right now. i know i tried this a little bit earlier with kathy. can we try to see, just show the darkness, how dark it is? not sure how that plays on camera, especially because we see this family coming behind you, right. reporter: yeah. you can see right now how dark it is in new york city. it s very, very surreal. we can only see the outline, right. wow. reporter: i ll smile. and what a smile it is. kendis, thank you so much. let s go now to jonathan. you listened to that press conference with us. you heard them say that there were still thousands of people without power. what did you make of the updates that they gave you? did they give us any clearer sense of what specifically happened? well, first they said in they need to determine the cause, and that will take some time, transformer a likely possible cause. they said a manhole explosion would not be the cause that would be two incidents to cause such a major power outage. during that conference, literally the lights behind them came back on. that was an indication that five of the six networks are back up and running. orangeony it was two out of six. then during the press conference they got back up to five out of six. so they are working on the remaining network, which stretches as far south to the penn station area, including other parts of the west side and midtown which they re working on getting restoration. we were remarking throughout the coverage why traffic was moving somewhat well in the blackout-affected areas, and that s because north of the area and south of the area, the nypd shut down all traffic coming into the area. so they prohibited any cars, any trucks from entering the blackout zone. only mta buses were allowed to take people up and down through that blacked out quarter of the west side. all other vehicles were being prevented from entering to try to keep things under control. police said they did a level iii mobilization which means hundreds of extra officers were deployed. during the news conference the oem commissioner said there were no reported casualties, no injuries. they did and they still do have teams responding to buildings to do elevator checks. they say they have no more reports of anyone stuck in an elevator. but as a precaution with buildings still without power, the office of emergency management with its teams along with the nypd are going door to door to elevator buildings that do not have power just to make sure there s no one still trapped inside. that just gives you an example of the personnel and efforts being made still at this hour until full power is restored. and that s a coordinated effort between emergency responders, the new york fire department, the new york police. we heard from governor cuomo earlier tonight he spoke with us here on msnbc and he said that he was also sending in state police and the national guard. but, jonathan, if you can, the governor said in an earlier press statement the fact that it happened at all is unacceptable. when i asked him about that this evening on the phone, he said that he was going to view those transformers tonight, but that effectively, the system did not work this evening as it was designed to. can you explain to us how was it designed to work? what didn t happen that should have? i am not a con ed expert, and that question was asked at the press conference and the ceo of con ed was not able to provide an answer, only to say that an investigation is underway in an attempt to find out the cause and has happened. the governor seemed to suggest it was some sort of cascading effect that this went from one area to the next to the next. i don t know if it happened all at once or if it is as the governor explained. i think we need to wait and see what the investigation brings in terms of cause and why this happened. of course, it s not supposed to happen, the power is supposed to stay on. it s a saturday. it was not overwhelmingly hot. a lot of businesses were closed on a saturday, so you don t have an overtaxing of the system. so they do not believe that is a cause. but whether it is the fire on 49th street, the explosion or fire of a transformer on 64th street, a combination of those two events happening at the same time. i think we need to wait and see what the investigation finds. but the governor did say he is ordering a separate investigation into what happened to try to get some answers so that it does not happen again. so two ongoing investigations. and just a recap here for anyone who s joining us. the headlines from the con ed ceo at this recent press conference said that the power went out at 6:47. they have identitisolated the et that was linked to this outage. they have started the restoration process. no injuries reported. they are still hoping to restore that power by midnight, and the outage was not related to excessive use of electricity. i know that was a question for a lot of people, especially with these hot summer months and those acs turned on. jonathan, investigative reporter here at msnbc. now i want to show you this interesting moment that happened when the lights came back on in one portion of new york city. take a look at this. [ people cheering ]. yay! woo! might be on 8th avenue, new yorkers cheering, some excited to have the power come back on. unfortunately, i think where we have my colleague, kendis gibson, they re not seeing that overjoyed reaction because the power is not back on yet. let s go to kendis who is out there. i see it is still dark behind you. have any of the lights come back on since we last spoke to you, kendis? reporter: yes, morgan, we have been keeping a close eye on the lights and the power grid, at least in this area. so far we haven t noticed much of a difference whatsoever. of course, you had that latest report from con edison mentioning that five out of the six power grids were knocked out as a result of this power outage that took place more than four hours ago now. five of the six have now been restored. i believe that we re now in the sixth, and this is still fairly in the dark. you can see the situation here. this, of course, is 30 rockefeller plaza. it would normally be lit up. you would be seeing the nbc marquee, the tonight show with jimmy fallon would be there. radio city music hall, the marquee would normally be lit up as well. luckily there were no shows there to night. lionel richie will be appearing there on the 17th. they do have a generator though that you can kind of hear buzzing in the distance. the police officers who have been placed on the street as a result of the orders from the governor and the new york city mayor, they are out here in force. they are watching many of the businesses, watching the subway entrances and exits, making sure that people don t try to go down into many of these stops because, simply said, the subways are shut down. the good news about all of this so far, at least from what we re being told, that it is clearly just an inconvenience at this point for many new yorkers. it wasn t necessarily something that injured anybody as far as we know right now, and there were no casualties that came about as a result of this four-hour power outage that we ve had today. that said, it has still been quite a harrowing ordeal for many new yorkers to deal with. it also has been an interesting one because it has brought neighbors together, brought many people who can no longer talk on their phones because their batteries have died, to simply get to know one another. it has been quite sometime since new yorkers have experienced something like this. 2003 was a major blackout, and on this date back in 1977 was that city wide blackout that ended up causing some $300 million in lost revenues. no doubt a lot of people lost some money tonight as a result of this, but the good news, nobody lost their lives. what an interesting day, morgan, i got to say. it started out where we were paying attention at the very start of the day to that real life threatening situation there in the gulf where you had what became hurricane barry that was moving ashore. it grew in strength overnight and then started just dumping inch after inch of rain on louisiana and has just slowly meandered north at just eight miles per hour and will completely devastate some parts with up to double digit rain. the area of baton rouge, which has been getting rain for several days now, will get about 17 1/2 inches of rain by monday morning. you see the forecast track for the storm. it is going to be sitting with us and dumping some 50-plus mile winds and 35-mile-plus winds straight into monday morning, but of course many of the forecasters are saying it is not as much a wind event as it is a rain event, and it is a flooding disaster in the making that will be with us for several days. so quite an interesting day this has been where we started out paying attention to that situation there in the gulf, and we continue to do so, and now we re ending up with this situation where a lot of people have lost power. and of note, while power is being restored to most people here in manhattan, slowly but surely, there are hundreds of thousands of customers, which means a lot of people, possibly multiply that by four, more than 100,000 customers in louisiana alone who are right now spending this night without electricity, in the heat and the rain still coming down. definitely our thoughts are with those people as well as it is with the people of manhattan who had to endure a long four hours. and speaking of those people here in manhattan, kendis, i know you were there when there was still natural light outside whoa! did it just happen? the lights came on behind you. look at that. that looks like it was the final grid they were working to restore. kendis, is the marquee lit up? kendis, do you see reporter: it is back on. the marquee the marquee is back on. the tonight show with jimmy fallon is back on. look at that! reporter: people are cheering it on. the cheers. reporter: look at that. the gap, the stores, the lights are back on in those stores. look what a difference this avenue, a major avenue has when it is back on. people are excited about it. are you excited the lights are back on? [ cheering ]. reporter: oh, man. that was really kind of cool. i mean i know our producers are really good at stuff, but that was, like, right on cue. you couldn t even make that on tv. it is incredible. reporter: we re kind of not at all. we make a little bit light of it no pun intended, or perhaps maybe but it could have been a really, really serious situation for many people. a million-plus people who live here in manhattan, the hundreds of thousands of customers and people who were impacted by this blackout or inconvenienced. so it really was a good situation so you can understand why once the lights came back on, just within the last few minutes are you excited the lights are back on? yeah! reporter: they re excited. i appreciate it. i appreciate you. they can see where i am now. so, you know, it is one of those things that you can understand why there was that morgan, that celebration once the lights did go back on and we can carry on with the city. but this had a really big impact, let s not lie about it. many of those shows, hamilton , the lion king , so many of the shows were closed as a result of that. we saw the jennifer lopez concert that was that was closed. the show to kill a mockingbird as well was closed as a result of this. so they re going to have to make up for all of those shows for a lot of people, so it is a lost of lost business, a lot of money. but we re happy to know that there were no lost lives as a result of all of this, morgan. kendis, speaking of those lost businesses, for those people not in new york, a lot of people are watching this at home from other parts of the country. explain why this was so impactful here. we heard from governor cuomo about the threat to public safety. i know you ve mentioned that this was something that we could have narrowly avoided a much more disturbing scene. but in terms of location, talking to people who were outside of new york, explain where you are and why where you re standing right now is so important to the heart of this city and why that area is important even beyond to the rest of the country. reporter: i got to tell you, obviously this has nothing to do with 9/11, but having a situation like this brought up memories of that. i remember walking down 6th avenue where i could see the trade towers go down. i was working at nbc at the time and we were walking back to to 30 rock. the streets were shut down. it was eery, it was weird. i remember that situation. obviously this has nothing to do with that. but whenever you have something that just makes that triggers you here in new york and just kind of jolts you, it immediately if you went through that experience or other tough experiences here in new york, it immediately makes you stop and say, wait, what is going on, what s going on, this is not normal. new york city is supposed to be a loud city where you have a lot of police cars that are going through, where the streets like 6th avenue are not supposed to be shut down like this and the lights are all supposed to be on and people are supposed to be out and enjoying the city. so whenever you have something like this that happened tonight, you can understand at least from a new yorker or even as somebody who has lived in other places thought, all right, let s pay attention to what is going on in new york and be curious once again for fellow residents and fellow americans who are there. the good news, morgan, as we ve been saying, four-and-a-half hours after the lights went out here in new york city while we were there during nightly news and such, the lights are back on. right. reporter: a lot of people are safe and sound. we will have the very latest on this situation and exactly what took place here with that transformer, the transformer that blew up tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. eastern time, and we continue to keep the thoughts and prayers with the people in the gulf states and louisiana who are dreeling withealing wit we dealt with tonight. kendis, we know there are currently two investigations ongoing reporter: tune in tomorrow
discovery. expedition can do it on t.w. . i m rebecca races welcome to the program we open the show with breaking news from here in germany 2 people have been killed in a shooting in the eastern city of hama and they say they have already detained one of the suspects the place indicated they could be multiple suspects with at least one attacker opening fire with an automatic weapon before fleeing the say in a vehicle germany s billed daily newspaper reports the incident took place in front of a synagogue in home bulge hasa in the city s powerless district today is yom kippur pool one of the most important holidays in the jewish faith try and company deutsche bahn have confirmed that it s closed down the nearby hollow train station until further notice. i m joined now by our political correspondent thomas farah thomas thanks for coming in. it s an ongoing situation details a very scarce on the ground but can you tell us what we know so far in this kind of situation it is absolutely normal that there is very little confirmed information that is something that we ve seen in the past and that s why it is important a not to speculate about possible motives and be to refer what authorities have been saying on this particular case and when we look at what authorities have been saying in how we can clearly focus on what the police has been releasing they have clearly said that 2 people have died that multiple shots were heard that there were possible shooters tural that then fled in a car and just a few minutes ago police added that one person had been detained in how. well we don t know so far the motives so that s something that it will last take a long time before we cannot be identify what the motives would be we have to wait and see what the police says on this particular case the way these things develop is police will 1st try and over the cordon of the area try and speak to eyewitnesses try and also find other pieces of information to try and put the puzzle together and once they have that they will release more information for now the information that we have confirmed is and it is information that i have just given to you so one person has been arrested police has said that 2 people have died that multiple shots were heard and that pete that the possible shooters that fled in a car additionally. that germany s railway. train operators they have said that the main station in holly has been closed because of a police operation trains are being rerouted through leipsic so that is the situation now on the ground in the eastern city of how they would by the way is a rather big city in. in germany compared to other it has around 230000 inhabitants and we were just seeing some life the 1st live pictures coming out of hala lots of police action obviously cordoning off as you were talking about now you mentioned that there were reports of multiple shooters do we know whether that s been confirmed do we know whether they are still on the promise of having been arrested one person has been arrested we don t exactly know whether that person was one of the possible shooters that police mentioned earlier in one of the tweets we just know one person was arrested and we also know previously what police said again they were speaking of possible shooters in the plural so i imagine that they were looking for maybe a group of people at least 2 people and not just one possible shooter that s information that we know so father comes from police they have been reports that they could have been another shooting incident not far away but that is information that has still yet to be confirmed right and this comes at a time of heightened tension slight more heightened anyway than perhaps in previous months after an incident yesterday in the town of him though there was an incident yesterday in the town of lim book in the state of hessen where a man took a truck and crashed a truck into a series of cars in limbo and yesterday the whole discussion was about the motive of that particular incident whether it could have been a terror attack whether they could have been other motives we re still we still don t know what the confirmed motive behind that incident could have been. what we know is that that incident yesterday and this incident today do add to a sense of insecurity that germans may be feeling at least compared to previous months or weeks when that seemed to have been more relaxed although it is also important to stress that authorities had been on alert they. arnold if you ask authorities if you interview authorities they will always say that they re still investigating they re looking at possible security risks in germany and that they re always on alert but if you look at the specific mood that say a few weeks ago people were not necessarily speaking a lot about security in germany there were other topics on the on the agenda but the incident yesterday limb broke on the incident today it highly may well have people talking once again about security in the country and this incident in holland happened not that far around about 30 kilometers away from another big city where they re holding commemorative services today and we ve been definite covering that this morning. were you know what the security situation there must be heightened the president s currently in leipzig and if you re in the situation in in leipsic as you say we re probably heightened because of the presence of the german president because of these commemorations of the monday demonstrations which happened 30 years ago in the east of german city of leipzig on leipsic on holly a very close actually so probably it now means that police are also looking to try and see what how the security is in both places trying to understand whether they might be any security risks also in considering the fact that the president was there today that we had all these events today but that is again something that we have not been able to confirm and we re not going to speculate about that either for now the situation that we re talking about the security situation is happening in the german city of holland and i know we don t want to speculate and i certainly don t want to do that but there have been reports in some german media to suggest that this happened near a city synagogue can you tell us anything more about that there were reports of about that in fact i ve got a report just in front of me from the german newspaper build saying that for example a grenade might have been thrown towards a jewish cemetery but that is information that comes from a german. newspaper it does not come from the police it does not come from other german authorities you can say that is something that has been mentioned in the past the beard s has good connections to germany s security authorities but again i would say we have to be very careful when we take this information from german newspapers also from german builds of the massive creation newspaper and we should instead focus on what police has confirmed and what police has confirmed again 2 people dead multiple shots possible shooter as in plural who fled in a cop one person has been detained and police are still investigating more times will be in touch again very shortly but thanks very much for that and information. local police have tweeted according to initial findings 2 people were killed in hala several shots were fired the alleged perpetrators are on the run with a vehicle when searching extensively and we ask citizens to remain in their homes and just a couple of minutes ago they tweeted again our forces have arrested one person please stay alive it will place in holland now say they ve arrested one person in connection with the shooting incident in the city reports indicate the attack took place in front of a synagogue here s a closer look at where the incident is reported to have occurred in home mulched hasa and hollows powerless to district today is young kid paul one of the most important holidays in jewish faith police have told residents in the city of holland to stay in their homes until further notice trying company deutsch a bomb that s germany s main train company have confirmed that it is closed down the nearby hollow train station and reverted trains until further notice. kate brady joins us from leipzig which is very close to the city of hama where the shooting took place what do we know anything more about the perpetrators. who are so far back or is that at least for most what we re hearing from police no authority so far is that there were more that well there was more than one suspect involved here we know now that one has been arrested but there were also reports that one perpetrator actually fled the scene in a car so police are currently carrying out a huge operation by thin heller and in that maybe i am rhea to arrest that 2nd suspect as quickly as possible that that suspect fled the scene of the shooting in how the in a car and so be very easy for them to reach any name by areas very quickly we have also heard reports now confirmed by police of a 2nd incident close by to an area of lambs back to the east of also closer here in lights and so we ll be getting more information i m sure on that as well very soon and i spoke to police here in light say just a few moments ago they said at the moment that the police presence here in light sig isn t going there any changes at the moment that they don t plan to expand their operation here in light sake today and they are waiting for more information as well as it comes through because there is already quite a large police presence on the streets here in light sick today as you may be able to see behind me and that s because today marks the 30th anniversary of the demonstrations here in. the peaceful revolution in 1989 which eventually helped to bring down the fall and bring about the fall of the berlin wall in november of 1909 so there were already a lot of police officers around on the streets today the germans. president frank to shine my i gave a speech just an hour or so ago in the concert halls to my right here and he has just left just within the last half hour and later on today there are thousands of people expected to fill this square here in lights for the next part of these commemorations for the 30th anniversary of those monday demonstrations in a peaceful revolution and so there are expected to be huge crowds of people here in that light sleep tonight but at the moment police are saying that the operation here in light sake is remaining as it was but just by ari to be fair there does seem to be a lot more police officers walking around a lot more movement at the moment certainly keeping an eye on the comings and goings around the center of leipsic here on this main square that s in the center of downtown leipsic there s that same out of the ordinary k given that you spoke to police and they said that they were ramping up more of a presence there or do you think something might change there. i mean i don t think something s necessarily changed but of course they are going to be extremely vigilant knowing that only 30 kilometers away in there has been a shoe saying one of wind which is well 2 people have lost their lives to say far we have heard from police that 2 people were killed in that shooting in color and one suspect has so far been arrested and there are also reports that a 2nd suspect a 2nd perpetrator could still be on the road and said the moment the hollow train station has also been a block trains are now being redirected to here in light stick around 3034 kilometers away from hala so of course a huge disruptions as well hala which is considering the size of cities in eastern germany one of the most central cities in eastern germany and an import . connection for many people so days will have been disrupted there as well but at the moment the main focus of police is finding that 2nd suspect and they have also be warning people in how to find shelter or stay inside while this operation is still underway and while there is still the charms that perpetrates may be on the run ok brady in leipzig i m sure will be speaking to you throughout the day thank you very much for that update and we ll bring you the latest information on the aftermath of that shooting and the ongoing investigation as we get it. from turkish troops building up of the border with syria ahead of a possible offensive against syrian kodesh fighters military vehicles have been arriving at the border and a turkish presidential an aide said they would cross into syria shortly as follows the withdrawal of u.s. troops from kurdish controlled northern syria turkish considers kurdish fighters terrorists it wants to create a safe zone and resettle millions of refugees their critics accuse the u.s. of abandoning an ally who fought against the so-called islamic states they fear the withdrawal could cause more instability in the region. and for more on this i m now joined by our turkey correspondent in istanbul you know do we know when this offensive in syria is supposed to start. well it seems there s some last minute diplomacy going on right now phone calls have been exchanged again between washington on korea and ankara and moscow so we might see some developments there but according to turkish officials and the tenor of the media reporting here all day it seems like this so peroration could start to any moment now possibly within the next 24 hours as the turks defense ministry says the preparations all continuing but the troops already so it seems they are waiting for green light now which would probably come from prison at all on himself he just returned from a foreign trip today and he s also the commander in chief of the turkish armed forces the turkish government also says it would inform all relevant countries including the syrian regime bashar al assad about this oh peroration so this might also have an impact on the time frame and how is this in an offensive being looked at inside turkey how the media covering it. what broadcast and print media here are dominated by pro-government outlets and their reporting has been very supportive of this so peroration patrie or take even nationalist i ve brought you one example here that s a daily newspaper and they have line says the turkish nation stands united wholeheartedly behind the turkish army and it goes on saying that women and men young and old are sending a message to the work that they will fight the terrorism threat once and for all but not all outlets are overwhelmingly pro-government there is another one i ve brought you this some more critical newspaper and their headline says at the end of the road there is talk now as they are not openly criticizing this operation but they are talking about the risks and the many questions and the area where the long ones to install what he calls the saif zones for syrian refugees are now mainly controlled by kurds what would an invasion mean for the kurdish people there. well probably difficult times aid organizations are warning that a turkish incursion could immediately displace about $200000.00 people probably within syria not to cross the turkish border and this is also because the kurdish a fighters there are determined to defend the territory against a potential turkish assault they have said there should be 3 days of general mobilization so they call on civilians to defend the area in the east and north in syria against the turkish all me so the situation on the ground could potentially be very complicated and messy to say the least what about the other big players in the region like iran and russia what have i been saying to turkey s invasion plans well we have a reaction now by bashar al assad s regime in syria the foreign ministry that says and i m quoting them they are determined to thwart turkish aggression by all legitimate means so no good news there they re probably also coordinating their reaction with russia and iran both allies of bashar al assad the iranians the iranian president has been very clear about this he says turkey is right to worry about border security but he also urged to show restraint and not to go had with a military action in within syria your reporting for us in istanbul thank you very much. now to some of the other stories making news around the world german police continue to hunt for clues as to why a man hijacked a truck in the western german town of nimble crashing into several cars 9 people suffered minor injuries in the incident including the truck s driver the suspect from syria has been charged with attempted murder in the case. the white house has announced it will not cooperate with congressional impeachment inquiry of u.s. president on a trump releasing a night page letter addressed to democratic party late is the trumpet ministration has also blocked gordon the u.s. u.s. ambassador to the european union from testifying at impeachment hearings the probe is examining a whistleblower complaint that trumps all political favors from ukraine. from the german government has passed a draft for a controversial new climate protection law that includes a package of measures aimed at curbing global warming but climate activists and some scientists allege the plans don t go far enough the movement extinction rebellion has been holding a series of protests in the german capital this week. a wave of plastic symbolizing the waste in our oceans climate activists from the extinction rebellion movement say drastic measures are needed to fight environmental pollution and global warming. moments and then open at the moment we re still in the privileged position here it s often not noticing the a fact so much other countries are far more affected we have to act something has to happen on a political level the citizens have to be taken so that there can be a stop to this. doesn t stop them con. while climate activists were taking to the streets the german government introduced a whole package of measures it s the 1st time germany s climate goals could become legally binding. starting in 2021 a ton of c o 2 will cost $10.00 euros. greenhouse gases should be reduced by 55 percent by 2030. the german government had already made a decision to phase out coal by 2038. complete compromises i want something when we manage to bring together different interests these compromises will be sustainable and they will restore peace in regards to societal conflicts. that compromises are not what these climate activists were hoping for it suits my story c o 2 tax is not enough to deal with an issue like climate change that s a global topic and calls for drastic measures which is what the government delivered in a weekend version enrages me to put it mildly. the german parliament still has to vote on the new climate bill these activists say they ll continue protesting to keep the pressure up. and with me now in the studio is ricardo lang she s the spokes person for the grain use here in germany we re going to thanks so much for coming in now the government climate package has been heavily criticised what one of your main issues with the package well i think all together it s just not enough the government is always telling us ted well it s a step in the right direction but a step in the right direction is not enough of the resa cream and the international like all the countries together came together and said what is necessary to to keep our planet intact and how and what is necessary treats to one pot of 1.5 to tree gold and now the government especially if this package has said good bye to peruse extreme and like they re saying us well we re doing you re giving a separate their action but when until now you have found nothing next to nothing is not good enough we have to do what is necessary that would be for example the exit of coal until 2030 that would be massive investments and rest in the new bill and a cheese mess of investments in transportation that is truly neutral and to have well we re just seeing baby steps that s not going to be enough i mean they re always he worried about the economy and worried about jobs what do you think is needed to make this a better package i think the problem is today i ll tell. today i m not going further because of social justice but all like to things that are not done now they have to be done in the future but one day i have to be done in the future the time is going to be even shorter and even going to be even harder to put them in the social chastise actions i think that the moment a government is creating a massive source for social com in the future i think what we have to do is invest we have to get costs. like we call the shots nor we have the spend money we have to have investments we have to have. the infrastructure that provides every person no matter how much money they have the opportunity to lift climate neutral and then we also have to put a price on c o $2.00 because i have to it s already having a price at the moment but it s not paid for by assets paid by future generations and what the government like with in true years emma going into little prize we have to stops now with the brightest that actually tells us what s cost c o 2 is having at the moment and this package is going to be debated in parliament what chances do you say that you can make get any changes put in there well i think that s what brought us a fog the moment we have to be loud we have to be clear we have to show them that we re not going to go away if they stop doing their like if they are not doing enough when that s just going to say oh well we failed now we re going to go away and i think it s going to be hard because the government seems like they re not capable of really acting on the climate crisis at a moment so i am not really sure but i think we as protesters we as people who care for the future of our children have to do everything necessary and even if they go true if that is we will have you silence because then we will stay loud and we will get even stronger and so distraught over yet. spokesperson the grain youth here in germany thanks very much thank you very much. well there s a growing deadlock on rex that with top officials saying britain s latest proposals on a possible deal not satisfactory earlier a source close to boris johnson also told british media that chancellor merkel called breck s a deal quote overwhelmingly unlikely the u.k. is currently slated to leave the european union on october 31st. $22.00 days until break that time is running out and now it s too late to reach a deal with the e.u. at least that s the latest news music coming from london the british government no longer believes an agreement can be reached and that coming from downing street that blaming chancellor angela merkel council president donald is outraged boris johnson what s at stake is not winning some stupid blame game at stake is the future of europe and the u.k. as well as the security interests of our people you don t want to deal you don t want an extension you don t want to revoke. that follows a phone call between bars johnson and anglo machall the chancellor reportedly said an agreement was overwhelmingly unlikely if northern ireland does not remain in the e.u. customs union but did she really say that no comment from chancellor merkel she kept quiet on the subject later to at a meeting in berlin with david the president of the parliament for soli travel to london on tuesday afternoon to meet with boris johnson it didn t seem to produce very much progress where there are 2 alternatives to a deal at this juncture extension or no deal. after cicely s departure bars johnson told parliament he still wants a deal giving the impression that the 2 sides are living in different breaks that you know about it. for more i m joined by correspondent barbara vessel who joins me from brussels. is there any hope in brussels that a deal can be reached before the october deadline. it seems throughout this day the hope is fading quickly because it is going from bad to worse so this is not the time to put money on the breath s a deal definitely because today even more voices emerged saying how difficult it is and how near impossible it is the dutch finance minister to go hawks are for instance he just said at the meeting here in brussels we should have the softest brakes that possible it s a tragedy for all of us but it takes 2 to tango indicating that the british side is not willing to tango and the german u. official from the commission there he said that you couldn t time limit the solution for northern ireland pouring cold water on some of the attempts behind the scenes to sort of still come to some sort of compromise so it is not going well at all no tangoing for virus virus johnson the view prime minister that so the issue seems to remain the sticky issue is the u.k. border with the republic of ireland why is that proving to be so difficult to result. that was the most difficult issue index of talks from the very beginning because northern ireland and the republic of ireland which will remain a member of the european union have a common economic sphere they sort of do their economics together there isn t any open border that is not even visible if you cross from one village to the next so if you put a border up there everybody says it cannot be done it s against the good friday agreement that brought peace to the era area and all governments have said that is not doable we cannot ever do it because violence might flare up again so abortions and offered to keep northern ireland the british side with in the right european rules for the single market with production for production of foodstuffs of hygiene and other industrial goods that is one part of it the other part to keep them in the customs union which organ which sort of. guarantees the border traffic between the 2 sides being friction is sort of more or less like with in one country he doesn t want to budge on that and so there is no movement in this and it is squaring the circle everybody has said so from the very beginning on and london sort of says now we are at the end of what we are willing to do and can do and so it seems a compromise is not possible at this point in time not possible but if there was to be a compromise on what to brussels want to see from london what would get them over the line. what would get them over the line is if a london moved with regard to the customs union if they said ok we ll leave that northern island more or less with in the territory of the customs union so the trucks and people with their goods in these sheep from want to the next and so on can just cross the border like they used to there will be no problems was the key which would under different circumstances offer great possibilities for smuggling and that would get it over the line but london is adamant that they can do it said absolutely not moving under no circumstances ever so the 2 sides seem to be digging themselves in and it looks really very bad for the summit next week yes
welcome to the what is he going to do don t we re going to talk about a. group that s going to. go. to the us. this is the news africa coming up in the next 15 minutes the world is reflecting on 3 decades off that 3 united germany the african journalists traveled along the border that separated the 2 germany s get their impressions. destroyed families in booking a fossil are still waiting to receive the bodies of their witnesses who were killed in an attack on a bus transporting mind goods. and the ethiopian jews who say they want to return to their holy land but israel doesn t recognize them. hello i m christine want to welcome to deja vu news africa it s good to have you along it s been 30 years since the wall off the island fell marking a turning point in european history and germany as we know it today used to be 2 separate countries communist east germany often referred to as the g.d.r. and capitalist west germany now east backed germany was already east germany was backed by the soviets was behind the iron curtain and a sealed border separated the 2 germany s while the war in berlin became a symbol for the separation and the date off its fall on the 9th of november 1989 is commemorated and read unified germany not to commemorate the 30th anniversary off this event a team off africa journalists traveled along the former border here on their patients. well you have to imagine 30 years ago there was like the burden war was in berlin we had this bulletin board here right on our border to what was best germany and we were here in far all we have to cut off not only from the west but also from the east. i believe most people are happy with the current situation that germany is now you voted and the people in the former g.d.r. can now live from friday leave. it s an awesome gift but also members of tarts. this is how many germans feel 30 years after the fall of the bell in wall but our treaty which started in mother ita and ended up in blockade they showed us that the form of the wall has also some negative impacts but 1st let s put things into perspective as wide germans are generally celebrating this day imagine you have a family of 5 people and your own living in one village and overnight the government decides to chant this in the middle of the of the image your father and uncles end up leaving on the other side of the wall and you in some siblings on the other side soldiers who are mining the wall are also monitoring every move you re taking in everything you say tanks are also patrolling your village now and then and to see your family you need a special permission which usually was not granted to cross it we found a permission if you would risk being aggressed it or being shot. and that was for more than 30 years when we visited the museum in a village with 47 population and was divided during the g.d. my colleague. had a hard time to take this all in. order breakers. are similar to the ones we have in our lives they are from russia. so. bring some memory you know. the password. i was going to. present in the. psychology of the war so many years so what kind of feeling do you get when you see them. read. this news. is good it was also here where we were reminded how difficult it can be for some germans to shake off growing up in an hour thore tarion state where they were closely watched before giving us an interview i strayed insisted on seeing our i.d. s something she say s shows the continuing differences between the 2 germans as attrition emerging to the arrow between the former g.d.r. and the former federal republic of germany there are very deep and very substantial differences reasons missa go on to schriever this has to do on one hand that germany has always been a sovereign state and that the mentalities of the people from the east and west have always been different for she ran. the fall of the wall today for some also mentally losing their jobs and their livelihood be sure the road to a town in that to remediate state was among those towns affected this mining that was closed down in 1903 against a backdrop of protests and hunger strikes will batman bell was among those who protested he and his colleagues were laid off and where only paid a small compensation he and many people living here a disappointed liberal things this is why many people in this town would not vote for angle america s christian democratic party city who today rather the socialist left party all the far right alternative for germany ice tea party they are still very up through a real indication has changed very little and voters are now reacting because for many years the c.d.u. government has not implemented what it has promised the migration of voters from the c.d.u. to the f.d.a. is very unfortunate. after the fall of the wall hundreds of thousands of people moved away from the towns like to look for jobs elsewhere this time and many places is trying a new into ghost towns but now this trend has slowly. germans moved back to the former east germany. now became a fossil has begun 3 days off national mourning for the $38.00 people who were killed in an attack on a convoy transporting has destroyed families are still waiting for release of the bodies of the deceased the deadly ambush is among the deadliest attacks in the past 5 yes. this bus was carrying local workers from the canadian gold mining company similar for when it came and they are attacked it was part of a convoy being is courted by the military it s reported that an explosive device truck sold the as be called before again men opened fire actually search its people were killed dozens are feared missing now relatives of those killed want answers from the government there waiting to bury their loved ones. i haven t seen my husband for 2 days and i came here today to see his body and take the body and leave but i don t care what the minister says saying here it won t bring back the dead. some of the wounded are being treated in this hospital in the capital what i. came to visit his presser. he told me that the bullet hit his leg and he hit the floor but. then others came above him and there were more and more shots. because the others were on top of him and he was underneath god protected him. pretty easy. he got 2 bullets in the legs and in his toes as well so we really live in fear this is really a disaster for us. it was among the deadliest attacks in book you know facile in nearly 5 years the government says jihadists are responsible you know sort of the country has been engulfed in violence and roughly half a 1000000 people have been dissed. at least president vowed that security forces will hunt down what he calls terrorists 0 order i have ordered the recruitment of volunteers for the defense of the country in the areas under threat only a concerted mobilization of the sons and daughters of the nation regardless of region ethnicity political opinion or religion can defeat these murderers. this week france an announced a joint military operation with the boer cannot be army at the border with mali and the share in areas that the hut bed of jihad a t.v. for now military efforts are failing to stem the unrest as the security situation deteriorates across this hot hill region. thousands of jewish ethiopians are living in limbo while waiting to emigrate to israel their chances of leaving ethiopia and joining relatives who have already made them complicated by religious fact that israel doesn t recognize them as true . these ethiopian children play with the torah a part of the hebrew bible they are some of the g.o.p. s last remaining jews about 4000 jewish. who call themselves better israel let s hear gunter a small city in the north. the school teaches children about their jewish faith but also prepares them for a possible move to. brewing affair learn about their religion it ll help create and integrate within the society there and support one another. well members want israel to give them a visit to emigrate but some of gondor have been waiting more than 20 years as enough yes after i moved from the countryside to gondor 12 years ago now he s one of the synagogues religious leaders he explains the origins of judaism in ethiopia we came to ethiopia because god dispersed the bay to israel into the 4 cardinal directions so we came down from egypt we came here following the shores of the blue nile others went to america germany and many other countries under israeli law duz are allowed to move to the country but the israeli government doesn t view the better israel of gondor as jewish under strict religious that s because the government says they are descendants of ethiopian jews who were forcibly converted to christianity in the distant past. many of them actually converted or their parents converted to christianity for various reasons and now they are in the wish to return to be part of the jewish people they are not considered as jews so that already live as jews but of officially they re not yet converted so the jews. have a sense this is discrimination. some say we re not jewish and there are no more jews here they say we re lying we re just pretending so we can go there they think will make the religion impure but the only one to know the truth is the god that created us. many of the community has so many living in israel the israeli government has been gradually allowing its europeans remaining jews to emigrate understandably reunification. but it s not clear when people will be allowed to go using some family split for more than a decade you know that being alone is very difficult my husband was raised by his mother together with his 6 brothers but now 5 live in israel so he was very sad when they got separated. but i m not going to. work in as i can to move to gunderson who starred with her husband and children after someone burns down their crops her life is tough but she s grateful her daughter can attend the town s hebrew school. so i don t know how i manage with knowledge about her religion she will marry someone who has the same faith and follow the religious practices. i hope she will one day live with her family and her people i really hope that for my children and i love the elderly. despite the struggle and wait hope is higher on those jews that one day they will be allowed to leave they just don t more work. and at the canal complete every need samak as always with actual story like the one you ve just seen on ethiopian jews on our website or facebook page don t forget that we d love to hear from you 26 times by. the way discover the bound. to host world the 45 w. . is calculable. there it goes in synch with. their rivalry. 3 princes. dream of the world. there are 4 power and boundless ambition to middle east into a great crisis. by concerns of the cold starts november 27th on t.w. . welcome to ours and culture as we celebrate a momentous event in german history nov 9th marks 30 years since the fall of the berlin wall in 1909 a day that changed world history marking the beginning of the end of the cold war and allowing east and west germany eventually to reunite. all this week we ve been featuring stories from those heady days in november 1909