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supporters to go out and vote in that cold. is there any difference among the voters for these various candidates and polls or support who are more inclined to go out no matter the conditions? >> well, i think they all have passionate supporters. but donald trump has a lot of them and my son was with trump in 2016, he says they're a lot more. >> 0 organized this time around and i think he'll win convincingly and an interesting battle for second place between desantis and nikki haley. neil: you know, as a former ambassador to china, i'm sure you've taken note of how often china comes up as a bogeyman and a target of attacks, certainly by nikki haley and ron desantis not the same degree on the part of donald trump, but it's become a focal point and a lot of your concern, i read a recent editorial you wrote, not to go

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des moines area. keep in mind, this is expected to be the coldest caucus in recorded history. it's going to be brutal out here. you heard that forecast, temperatures dipping into the negative 30's when the wind chill is factored in. trump still obviously the clear front runner, but telling his supporters do not get complacent. do not get complacent with the big lead. iowans we have been talking to say they'll be out here no matter what the weather is. take a listen. i'm pretty loyal to trump, i'll go through a blizzard like yesterday to vote. >> probably more the cold deterrent. bundle up, once you get there, you're inside and a matter of walking from your car to the door. >> it would take a lot for us not to go. i think we'll go. >> i think it's going to depend how passionate they're out. no matter what the weather is doing, i'll be here to caucus. >> as for florida governor ron desantis, he says after the iowa caucuses are over he'll

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>> we're here at smitty's, a place where they talk politics. i'm talking with brad, caucusing for nikki haley, why? >> i think she's smart, articulate and a clear winner of all the debates and like her foreign policy experience with being an ambassador and i think she has a good plan going forward with social security. >> you're going to get out no matter how cold it is? >> i'm going to caucus on monday night. >> brad, we have at least one caucus goer. neil: you have to start somewhere. thank you very much, aishah. aishah hasnie on that. we want to go to eric levine, a nikki haley donor, a former tim scott. >> good to be with you. neil: what do you think of nikki haley's chances in iowa? >> well, i think she has a great chance of doing very well and that's what we really need to do. i think that the most pressure is on desantis. if he doesn't finish second, you heard from the prior

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electricity is up 27% and speaking of energy costs, neil, these battles against the houthis and yemen increased oil prices by 3%. 10% of the world's oil flows through the red sea and more fuel is needed from the tankers sailing around africa to avoid the red sea and missile attacks from the houthis. neil: thank you for that. a lot of people look as lucas pointed out, the economic numbers. when the president tells them they're not so bad. some might have choice words and adjectives to describe the economy. not those so much of faith and religious trying to spare people of that language, but that's concerned and the fact of the matter is among the evangelical voters, to donald trump, whatever you say about his style, but they miss those times. and steve, very good to have

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new hampshire voters fixing whatever iowa voters did. how do they feel about that? >> i haven't had the sense from any indication that that's bothered anybody. i mean, over the years, remember, iowa's position is simply a matter of historical accident. and 48 other states have disliked the position of iowa. the only state that's supported iowa was new hampshire because they're both relatively small, somewhat rural states and they basically have each other's back against the move from the other 48 states to try to change this process. neil: so, what's the dominating issue right now? >> well, obviously on the republican side, it's who will best be able to defeat joe biden. that's very much the case. you've got both haley and desantis suggesting that there's too much chaos, too much baggage with the former president and they're better able to defeat joe biden, the former president of course is claiming that's all nonsense

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winner. neil: so if it isn't nicky and it's donald trump, what are you going to do? >> well, you know, i live in the people's democratic republic of new york so i can vote for bozo the clown, it's not going to make a difference. i'm going to put all of my efforts to make sure that we win the senate, we take the senate because that does matter. so i'm going to work on things that matter. neil: that's not what i asked. could you support donald trump yourself? could you vote for him if he's the only republican choice you had? >> we've got a long way to go, let's see where we are, i will not vote for joe biden, i can tell you that, but i think, you know, my vote doesn't matter in new york, let's focus on what does matter and that's going to be the senate, but he remain hopeful that nikki haley is our nominee. neil: i have no idea what that answer means. eric, great to see you again. eric levine, the nikki haley donor hoping that she can pull it out. and we'll look at what happens with the crucial evangelical

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>> okay. we were going to show the candidates crisscrossing the state of iowa, which they are, all except donald trump he's not in iowa. but the fact of the matter is they're making the last minute pitch for voters, whether that will move the needle here whether you buy the needle in polls that show donald trump running away with this and nikki haley. there we go now placing second in the state with ron desantis has claimed the worst he can do is second. and he can claim that he can win it out right, and they say that if he places third, all bets are off. we go to the political science professor. how do you think it's going now that you've got the added element of the cold. >> the weather conditions are awful here and of course, that

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i was just saying, we have an obligation as democrats, independents, and fact based republicans. the most divisive presidents in our lifetime, oddly enough has united me with so many republicans that still are in the fact based reality. i can list them all, it takes too long. there is more of us than there are them. but what we have to do is get out and vote. there's no excuse for not voting. i voted all my life, i've never missed an election. that's just the way i am. i was shocked by how many of my friends that said, oh, my vote doesn't matter. that's the problem, we all get out and vote. we will prevail. >> so, you're clearly really political. that's how we found each other, just yesterday you marked herschel walker in georgia on

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