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The testimony of any person in an official proceeding. To help us understand the significance of these brandnew indictments and what they mean for the special counsel investigation into russian collusion and obstruction of justice, some of our very best reporters and guests join us now. From the New York Times mike schmidt. Joyce vance former u. S. Attorney now law professor at the university of alabama. David chris, assistant attorney general for national security. And with us at the desk washington lemire for the associated press. Joyce, let me start with you you and i talked about this witn...

In an interview. It hasnt been good and the American People dont like the idea that we are separating families. We never really intended to do that. What we intended to do was to make sure that adults who bring children into the country are charged with the crime theyve committed. Instead of giving that special group of adults immunity from prosecution, which is what in effect we were doing. That is exactly what they intended and Jeff Sessions comments are a complete reversal of his stated policy goals when he proudly and brazenly announced the policy that began this nightmare. If you are smug...

Whom he spoke shortly after comeys firing, rosenstein was shaken, unsteady and overwhelmed. Another person in touch with rosenstein around that time said he sounded frantic, nervous, upset and emotionally disregulated. In one of these conversations with the acting fbi director at the time, andrew mccabe, rosenstein became visibly upset. Joining us now from the New York Times mike schmidt who just broke this story, nbc news Intelligence National security reporter ken dilanian and frank figliuzzi, fbi assistant director for Counter Intelligence. Mike schmidt, take us through what your reporting ...

Indictment presented by the special counsels office. The indictment charges 12 Russian Military officers by name for conspireing to interfere with the 2016 president ial election. According to the allegations in the indictment, the defendants worked for two units of the main intelligence director rat of the russian general staff known as the gru. The units engaged in active Cyber Operations to interfere in the 2016 president ial election. The conspirators corresponded with several americans during the course of the conspiracy through the internet. Theres no allegation in this indictment that t...

Comeys firing, rosenstein was shaken, unsteady and overwhelmed. Another person in touch with rosenstein around that time said he sounded frantic, nervous, upset and emotionally disregulated. In one of these conversations with the acting fbi director at the time, andrew mccabe, rosenstein became visibly upset. Joining us now from the New York Times mike schmidt who just broke this story, nbc news Intelligence National security reporter ken dilanian and frank figliuzzi, fbi assistant director for Counter Intelligence. Mike schmidt, take us through what your reporting about unknown and emotional ...