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hurricane was back in 1896, cedar keys hurricane, it was called and produced high storm surge about the same intensity of this storm. this is very unusual. >> janice: we had a great conversation on my podcast, that will air on sunday, so grateful for your time and knowledge about hurricanes. compare this one to ian last year. >> number of i think thises are different, it wasn't as strong as ian and ian in terms of intensification and weakening, similar. ian weakened just before coming ashore. when we get final analysis, we will find the right side, hurricane is moving to the right

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i am cautious when i hear people saying moving on. we have to assess what happened, when you have storm surge and flooding, the storm is not over yet. i just am weary of writing the storm off before we can assess what is going on. we have a lot of storm to cover and emergency flash flooding in georgia and hurricane on their door step and emergency managers trying to figure out what to do with residents, that is my takeaway, this is downgraded to 1 and made landfall, it is not over yet. >> dagen: this harkens back to the 1960s and hurricane camille, through the gulf, it is rainfall. we were talking in the beginning

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looking at radar and satellite, it lost energy before landfall. that was during the period energy was shifting and that is causing flooding in valdasta and that will be major flood threat from south georgia through the carolinas. >> emily: tell us about the ancillary damage and risk, storm surge will potentially bring the most damage. we discussed what would have been routine firefighting endeavor, they were wading in knee high water. i think about electrical currents. what do viewers need to know in term of risk appreciation? >> when you have a storm that knocks down trees, you have a whole set of i think thises. hurricanes, a number of people die from medical conditions because they can't get care from a physical practical standpoint.

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effects here. police were serving this area while the road was full of water. they tell me they feel most people heeded mandatory evacuation warning. they think most people got out. they were cruising north clearwater beach and did not see many people that stayed. not a lot of structural damage, though the water is higher down there. we will go and take a look at that part of the island very soon. assess it for ourselves. i am not negating power and fury of this hurricane, the big bend area is where this hurricane came in as category 3. by the way, it hit category 4 strength at one point before landfall. that area taking upward 10 to 15 feet of storm surge, anyone in

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storm surge was expansive down to and including tampa bay. the storm surge is not the threat, it is rain in carolinas that the most damage. this is major threat from georgia through carolinas. >> emily: thank you for your expert ooes, bringing it back to the couch now. kevin o'leary, you live in florida and have businesses there, what are your thoughts? >> i know the difference in tropical storm and cat 1 2, 3, 4. i have never seen a storm go from tropical to cat 4. that is really violent change and floridians know know what a 3 means and 4 means, where water

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get out to people. >> janice: storm surge was the main message with this, 15 to scene foot storm surge along big bend, neveroccurred in our records. looking ahead, people think, it is category 1, no big deal. we have emergency flooding in georgia. >> that is right, rainfall flooding will be substantial, it is big risk. expecting widespread totals of four to eight inches and we have significant risk of flash flooding from wili think mton, statesboro, to north florida with 4 to 8 inches and some higher than that. if it falls in a short period of time, significant flash flood risk. this is a killer, more people died from rainfall flooding than any other hazard in the united states. >> janice: glad you brought that up and thank you so much.

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multiple hazards, storm surge, wind stretching to the coastal carolinas during the next 24 to 36 hours. >> janice: janice dean here. thank you for your wonderful work, first of all, hats off to you at national hurricane center. you are our beacon and you did so well with the forecasting of this storm. it was very accurate from the get go, it was a tropical starm and hurricane and intensity forecast was right on. what do you attribute this to? >> we have a lot of great experience here and had a lot of storms so we know what to look for in terms of the environment. great modeling capabilities we've impelemented are tools to make the forecast for the track and intensity. that is information we need to

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message. we don't want to get the forecast wrong. it is up to families to decide what to do, evacuate or heed the warning? we do the best we can, not to scare people, but to let them know the dangers and pay attention. it does change a life in a day. >> dagen: i have memorized, you can hide from the wind, you cannot run from the water. during ian, responsible for 156 fatalities and storm surge claimed 41 lives. >> emily: everyone, we are awaiting florida governor ron desantis, he is holding a pres conference in tallahassee as hurricane idalia pummels the state. drone footage capturing the foot l flooding in tarpin, florida. the roads are covered in water.

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that is the part with strongest wind ush approximating onshore from the gulf to land, storm surge. that in this one, was significantly weaker and weakened last hour before landfall, ian did. original projection up to 15 foot of storm surge, this one, jasper don't thdon't think are materialize. don't think. steinhatchee, end of a long road and they are marshy, they will do their best to figure out what storm surge was. we may find a spot that storm surge up in that range.

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