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biggest threat to trump in new hampshire? >> in the polls, trump is way ahead in new hampshire. christie's trying to come back, rand paul has a libertarian base. you see senator graham taking trips, talking about his hawkish views. and i think jeb bush and marco rubio's campaigns are making a real play for new hampshire. at the same time, there's a reluctance, steve, and i've spoken to many of these establishment donors today to take on trump. they're not funding the anti-trump super pacs, not putting the big money against them. one of the reasons is, if they think they engage, everyone else who has done so stumbles. if if they take out trump, they think cruz will rise and cruz will become more formidable. >> halley jackson, robert costa, katy tur, thanks for joining us. excuse me. when we come back, back to the breaking story out of chicago. the release of that video of a black teenager shot and killed by a white police officer. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics.

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CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello-20151125-14:11:00

this case. >> investigators say mcdonald was wielding a knife with a three inch blade which he allegedly used to slash the tire of a police car. police say when mcdonald, who had pcp in his system, ignored orders to drop the five, van dike fired 16 rounds. >> he was on the scene for less than 30 seconds before he started shooting. in addition to the fact that all evidence indicates he began shooting approximately six seconds after getting out of his vehicle. >> city officials had been prepping for mass demonstrations in the wake of the video's release calling for peaceful protests. >> this opportunity for healing begins now. >> late tuesday, dozens locked arms in solidarity, blocking off an intersection and interstate 94. officers made some arrests but tense moments between crowd and police never escalated out of control. now, those protests did spread

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The Lead With Jake Tapper-20151125-21:47:00

charges? >> i think there's definitely a possibility there would have been charges. >> you say no. >> i know sunny says no, but i don't think anybody can actually say that. the fact is, you know, i don't know what the statements of the other police officers made. everybody's saying that the other officers lied and i'm reading on the internet. but the fact is we don't know what the other statements were made by police officers. >> let harry finish. >> and also see a man being shot down there on the ground the way this man was shot on the ground. even if you want to justify the first couple shots when he goes down, but to actually fire more bullets into this man while he's down on the ground, i mean, any police officer should have saw that and said this is wrong. >> i think it's clear that no charges would have been brought because if you listen to what the fop spokesperson said immediately after the shooting was these officers feared for their lives. this officer feared for his life. but for the video i think that that narrative would have been accepted. and so, again, we talk often about body cameras. we talk often about dashcam

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CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello-20151125-15:11:00

and has been taken off the chicago police payroll. for now he's being held without bond. van dyke's lawyer says his client feared for his life. >> it's truly not a murder case. and we feel that we're going to be very successful in defending this case. >> reporter: on the night laquan was fatally shot, investigators say mcdonald was wielding a knife with a three-inch blade which he allegedly used to slash the tire of a police car. police say when mcdonald, who had pcp in his system, ignored orders to drop the knife, van dyke fired 16 rounds. >> officer van dyke was on the scene for less than 30 seconds. before he started shooting. in addition to the fact that all evidence indicates that he began shooting approximately six seconds after getting out of his vehicle. >> reporter: city officials had been prepping for mass demonstrations in the wake of the video's release, calling for peaceful protests. >> this opportunity for healing begins now. >> reporter: late tuesday, dozens locked arms in solidarity, blocking off an intersection and interstate 94.

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CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello-20151125-15:34:00

did not see -- did not see laquan mcdonald slashing tires or breaking into cars. all they saw was him walking down the street with a knife. and we saw that in the video. >> they got the, though. >> before they shot him, they did not give laquan -- laquan did not get a chance to speak to officers. >> so if you, brandon, had -- >> he did not respond. >> if you're approached by somebody with a knife, brandon, and they're within ten feet, are you going to give them a chance to talk to you? >> he was not approaching them. he was walking. >> he was not walking. he was walking parallel. >> did you see the video in. >> i've seen the video. it doesn't matter if he walked past them. if he's within ten feet, he can turn and lunge and take your life. >> okay. well, let's ponder about how we move forward for this because i'm certain the city of chicago -- this police officer has been charged with first-degree murder. prosecutors evidently think there's enough evidence to bring him to trial for this very serious charge, right? so that's going to go through the judicial process. but it doesn't negate what brandon has brought up, that

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CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello-20151125-14:23:00

resonating with republican primary voters. the message resonating is trump's tough talk. and we've seen over and over again, that that tough talk is helping him. >> still to come in the news room, protesters march over new video of a black teenager shot and killed by a white police officer. through thanksgiving weekend at sleep train

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CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello-20151125-15:32:00

clearly shows, why did the officer fire? >> he wasn't walking away. so let's look at the facts of the video. he, laquan, or i just say the individual. >> he was walking away from all officers. >> first off, we have to look -- we have to understand that before this officer shot him, there was already a series of events that have happened that set this in motion. what you see there is the end of these events that are going on in which he, i guess, had apparently slashed some tires of a cop car and had been breaking into vehicles. hold on a second. i'm giving you the facts of how this happened. so they respond to the call. they see this individual walking down the street as they're converging on him, and he has a knife. it's clear in the video, the way he's holding the knife outocati. as he walks parallel to the officers and they are responding, he is within, i would say, because if you look at the lines on the street, within ten feet. now, we're taught in law enforcement within 21 feet, that that is a potential lethal area

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The Lead With Jake Tapper-20151125-21:39:15

The Lead With Jake Tapper-20151125-21:39:15
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CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello-20151125-14:28:00

shooting. now it is important to point out those demonstrations were largely peaceful. today veteran officer jason van dyke is behind bars. he's charged with murder. earlier today van dyke's attorney defends his cliernt's actions. >> it is not enough to make the determination that one officer's determination is better than my clients. and video by its nature is two dimensional and it distorts images. so what appears to be clear on the video sometimes is not always that clear. >> joining me now to talk about all of this, cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney danny savalas. and community representative and

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The Lead With Jake Tapper-20151125-21:45:00

been able -- should not have fired -- >> doesn't matter then what he was told about what happened beforehand? >> there's another incident. you know, this is 21-foot rule that we learn as police officers that you can be killed with somebody who's got a knife in the hand if you're within 21 feet of them. and police officers have been killed. you can't come out and say the guy's 21 feet, let me shoot him. what you got to do is utilize your experience. i've been in situations where i've had my weapon on people with knives and i'm closer than 21 feet, but i feel that i'm not in danger because i think i have some kind -- the situation in hand. and i feel that maybe i can talk the knife -- and several instances that happened to me we were able to get the man to drop the knife. or at one time i took my night stick and chucked it at the guy and hit him in the head. and he went down. >> point is other options. >> other options here. >> sunny, what about the timing here? this took more than a year to release the video. it took more than a year to release the charges.

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