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of guilt, jumping off the screen at these hearings and what the department of justice is doing about it. and how donald trump and his mom dusted off a pre-existing american script to try to pull off their insurrection when all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. it did not seem like there could possibly be any secrets left, that there could be possibly be new have literally shocking details about the ex presidents plot to and american democracy. and yet, oh my, there is. yesterday's historic testimony from cassidy hutchison, and advisor, to chief of s...

the old model of our understanding of what happened on january 6th is basically as follows. the ex president told a bunch of lies about voter fraud and he refused to accept he lost, whether he believed it or not is unclear, he nurture those lies in this impetuous frenzy, rage filled, haphazard way. he threw everything against the wall to see what would stick in and out of court in a desperate attempt to cling to power, which culminated in this inciting speech on january 6th to a mob he riled up and then sent to the capitol and there, hopped up on trump's incitement and lies and reckl...

years. good morning. and welcome to "way too early." on this thursday, june 30th. i'm jonathan lemire. live from madrid, where the nato summit is under way. we'll have more on what is happening here in just a moment, but we begin with news from washington. >> the january 6th committee has issued a subpoena for the testimony of trump white house counsel pat cipollone. investigators are compelling him to appear for a deposition next wednesday, july 6th. it comes after the committee's repeated request for him to testify and one day after he was featured prominently in bombshell testim...

taylor green. some have denied this ever happened. matt gates is under investigation in an alleged sex trafficking investigation. he has denied all wrong doing, he has not been charged. but according to the testimony we heard in the hearing today, matt gates was asking for one of those from the beginning of time for everything he has ever done kind of pardons. and, you know, that could be an interesting thing for prosecutors who are still looking at him and are still going to have to decide whether or not he faces these charges. it depends on what he told the white house his pardons ...

president who wanted the extra near oig legitimacy from doj to back his bogus claims and overturn the election and stay in power. even some trump allies now privately acknowledging to cnn that some of the testimony from yesterday was, quote, damaging. this is the room where it happened. a dramatic high stakes meeting in the oval office just three days before the capitol riot in january of 2021. the witnesses testified that trump leaned on them to publicly call the election fraudulent and corrupt, something that they wouldn't do. and that when the acting attorney general jeffrey rosen...