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december 5, and they're going to continue next week and tomorrow right here so we will see you at 7:00, tucker carlson coming up next in washington, d.c. if have a great night, everybod everybody. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the president is going to be impeached, that's the word we have heard from the house speaker nancy pelosi who effectively confirmed it during a short dress this morning. on the one hand, the news is no surprise at all, approximately 100% of msnbc viewers have been demanding impeachment since well before donald trump was elected president. they would be baffled and enraged of democrats pulled that now. these people who believe trump not only works directly for arch villain vladimir putin but also once had an extramarital affair, something that party of polyamory claims to oppose.

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Campaigners hopes they wanted the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg to ultimately decide if the u.k. Alone can halt the Bragg's that process without the c. Of the other e.u. Member states that means the u.k. Parliament could have a 3rd option rather than just accepting the brags that deal or leaving with no deal the judge ruled their prospects of success fell very far short and their case was hypothetical and academic chime in with a view put forward by u.k. Government lawyers that means a full hearing and whether to refer to Luxembourg will no not take place the cross party campaigners accept the conservators will probably now appeal saying they're willing to go up to the Supreme Court's The former boss of Karelian has apologized for the collapse of the construction and outsourcing giant which is put thousands of jobs at risk currently in which employs nearly $20000.00 people in the u.k. Folded It's when banks refused to continue lending triggering Britain's biggest corporate demise in a decade appearing before M.P.'s the company's former chief executive Keith Cochrane expressed a great set the outcome can I say hey devastating the high failure really has been a boys' for customers for pages for suppliers and truly sorry for in to is was the worst possible outcome. This was a business for spite and for what I saw to do the right time chief executive M.P.'s you want to cherry on Tony Shepherd are both considering standing to be the same piece new deputy leader is unclear at the moments where the party's Westminster leader in black for it will stand the only person to confirm so far is m.s.p. James Dorn and it comes after Angus Robertson and he was standing down after losing his seat at the general election last year finally armed police were sent to an Aberdeenshire farm after the discovery of what was feared to be a life Tiger only to discover it was a large cuddly. The incident happened on Saturday night at a farm at Hatton near Peterhead when the big cat was seen sitting in a cow shed armed officers attended the scene but later find the animal wasn't real Police Scotland says it is treating it as a false alarm with good intentions and i always a roaring success here is focused for its Lucy thank you very much indeed Good morning everyone how to how to continue further tests had been carried out amid concerns of a norovirus outbreak ahead of the young Chang Winter Olympics in South Korea the games begin on Friday the virus come clean affecting private security staff 40 suspected cases are currently being tested ranges can closed within 3 points of 2nd placed Aberdeen if they win at Partick Thistle to my tune of life coverage of the game from foot hole sports on the saw on air after news drive here and Radio Scotland at half past 6 that updates to an Motherwell against St Johnstone The Fir Park side looking for a point to enter the top half of the table and Antonio Conti says of the board want to make a decision on his future as manager of Chelsea then so be it the English champions lost for what for last night their comely 19 points off Manchester City at the top of the table I put everything into my work contact told reporters if that's not enough then the club have to make the session there's plenty more sport on our website and on social media at b.b.c. Sports got plenty of travel no and it comes from Victoria Lumsden Good morning snow is continuing to const traffic problems this morning and I'm pretty sure the in 1001 cockroach to Tom and towel road is closed and extra care is needed on the a 93 between Braemar and spittle of Glenshee in my slow the in traffic slow in the east bank any to junction 3 a buff Gates in Glasgow there are delays in the north wind am 77 between junction 3 minutes Hill Road and 2 by head route and I'm facing Galloway we're getting reports of hazardous driving conditions on the a 7 Langham. And it's a similar picture in the porters and hunt for it on the a $68.00 around Carter's bar b.b.c. Radio Scotland travel. Scotland's whether the last of the rain sleet and snow is continuing to clear the east coast most of the country will have a dry and bright day with sunny spells cold everywhere with temperatures not far off freezing highs of only 2 or 3 Celsius and as b.b.c. Radio Scotland news Nice to see. You're listening to pay out of this program here with you up until 12 on b.b.c. Scotland coming up before then my money I'm trying to keep busy playing for live life but for the 2 boyfriends why one lover is not enough for the members of the Dunn the poly group and. According to new research people who practice meditation are just as stressed and aggressive as the rest of them was is that a waste of time and of course stay tuned for another furry 1st straight. Clue to name the place morning with the Adams on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. I think I went in to cut into bars chemistry teacher there didn't tell you all you'll get are so Number 4 we want to clue number 4 we are for name the place and we still only got 3 correct answers for name the place yet only 3 people have managed to get it right congratulations Joan Trish Volpe everyone else is still. Trying to get the correct answer so Clue number 4 it has something else in common with to Roger So let me read them over in order because it kind of makes sense that way a clue number one was last week's place name 2 easy today's is very hard Clue number 2 it is not named after church Clue number 3. It has something in common with calendar and Clue number 4 it has something else in Cullman with October author So there you go that is your 4th clue for name the place 2000005 is the number you need to try and work out what is real solid award winning vet from pets of its claws go is with is would been talking this morning particularly about older pates and some of the particular illness that might affect them so any calls particularly about older pates get them in $59295.00 the balloon of course you can text on $8.00 to $95.00 were also going to talk about cannabis oil for pets and we have got a pit acupuncturist with us but let's speak to Lorna 1st good morning Lorna Gluon I'm going to just say 1st one Loughlin light only program here oh that's good I'm glad you enjoy it Lorna Yes well if it is a bit. You are going to have you are a. Really cheat he is coming up in. A beautiful tuxedo all black and white cat white paws and very loving and affectionate lively funny companion her new sport to me in show. He did something unmentionable on my bait and I looked up the Internet and discovered that if you didn't want to date is a classic symptom. He also should do other symptoms. It's always been a shit party but the lakes even if they have to. If he doesn't go especially when they get so tall that a couple of tell us a bit over the face and don't let a lot. But I think it'll sort of steadily to accumulate dementia. And just to get leave to be practical. Common to both. Really good relationship was not bad but just. Look bad to dispute extra litter tray should only give a little treats and affection. To really Yeah so in terms of being in the baby's name is Metsi Lorna's not right unfortunately expected only. I don't see genetics or so I think in terms of being in the bed it is the only one not once has he done that a few times is that just we only got the charge to only get it once right so I think in terms of you know the things that they mentioned those happen in all their animals but I think you've done the right thing in terms of having more lesser trees and seeing if that makes a difference 1st of all because it might well be if you give makes a litter trays and he starts going to them then and you know that's obviously great if it doesn't present used but it doesn't normally do it during the night you know sleeps at night soonish to dust so those right I mean in terms of you mentioned they're free radicals and I think you know you've done your research in terms of those having cats what they recognize is that the type of the mention they can get is to do with a build up of I'm a lawyer which is a kind of you know one in the but even still for. Free radicals one of the things that I think might play a part in that and you know it's it's one of these things that there's nothing came of the how the all together but it does kind of combine into the importance of having a good diet for seeing your cat since you don't seem Ok over it doesn't mean the biscuits Firstly has none but if they alter one it interests or you get a very very sick right statistic. Ellie and Katie have a minute and I calculated they had a good cut to be close to it it's a living you know it's just really interesting he just you know he's that you know what you want to make sure he's got a good good foods you know it's easy for him to digest that's going to be nutritious for him I think in terms of no one to go as far you know often that will happen if he's older you know they'll lose muscle mass they're not a strong on that maybe not as active as they get older but that's not a problem many might still be quite happy just going into your garden rather than wanting to shoot the state of it so huge. Well you must be quite happy to be able to give a go. So I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't be to what he does but you know that I think in these other excellent archery I think you should monitor keep an eye on his application as far fetched as generally sleeping on a car note between the wall in the bathroom door for just a shade like a trip yes Elicia intentional acts a little Spanish a lot of claims. He sounds like a happy child Lorna he does and says You're definitely doing the right thing they're not supposed that's what it's all about as in that I mean it's making sure when your pets do get older that you make them comfortable and they're as happy and healthy as they can be I mean Lorna mentioned their food and you mentioned as well Lynn States than the says an 8 year old what that cross the 10 year old called a cross just wondered if we should be feeding them senior food no I didn't realize senior food was a thing actually senior food the thing is a good idea for kind of slightly older dogs in terms of is the right balance of nutrients for them if you feed them kind of the dog food as they get older who are often kept in is the be more prone to put on weight because they're mythical It really has fast the burden they don't see will slow down you know that slows them so predisposed to put on weight and as we've mentioned before you know quite often being or being heavier for a dog as it gets older isn't so good in terms of arthritis and things of that so a senior dog food is a good idea in terms of free radicals the thing that was mentioned just about I go there often seen your dog food will. They contain more kind of antioxidants to help scavenge what's the word these free radicals in terms of helping the minimizing the aging process or trying to do your best to raise the nutrition and you don't food's a really good idea or you k. You've also spoken about some of the medications that can offer for older dogs Let's bring in Reagan from heritable that Scotland Hi there Reagan and all good morning good morning to you so you treat animals with hairball preparations and I could talk to 2 is that right yeah that's correct so when we do use acupuncture. Acupuncture can be used for a range of the finking probably the most well known when are for my skills close to issues who are try to live injuries but they can be used for other problems like respect a tree issues with cats with. Even things like skin problems like can you little my eyes are other G.'s right takes in here from cattle saying with the 11 year old female lab had a hawk joint repair last September she was very fit and active before the open seems to struggle never been overweight always had regular exercise however if we take her no longer walk one day she seems to take one or 2 days to recover much slower and sleeps a lot is that the kind of situation he might be able to help with Yeah absolutely so acupuncture can help with aims for treasuries or forced surgery as well it releases some of the not to endorse incident being carrier shit and the body and can help to maintain see my children and tainting am I ready to be joined as well is there something else something yeah I do use that here's a real thing for me only using as a cane of complementary treatments a kind of traditional a scientific people who are quite often those with arthritis for instance with reducing their we have them an open weight will definitely make a. By compacts there's unseen farming trees and other painkillers there work really well but I think quite often the likes of I can point to convict men not and given you no additional benefit like Regan mentioned they're releasing that actual endorphins and natural painkillers will quite often be the sort of thing that can make a. Bit of a difference these are all their own and what about turnabout soil Yeah cannabis all is not something I've ever persuades can have to save me I think it's something that a in a many colors access to I don't really think that as I exist in the u.k. The moment I may be wrong. It's not something I've used myself what about you Regan Yeah. Growing poppy logic to you and I'm gay because for it particularly in the Humi So you've. Touched on the lack of studies with issues. But some of the large companies that provide the oils for human use have paid me I would not think reflected in the demands from all of this is something you use and it's something that certainly a lot of my clients discuss and talk about and human David Fisher is a lot of the cast in a play to see in a lot of the patients I see are good on him as well but cancer can be programmed for careful support for that shooting and certainly a little bit quieter of a king to be used in the kind of the soil for for that condition right Ok but maybe there are so it's just isn't there yet to support you look at what it does so I'm a bit worried I mean I think cannabis is kind of this oil if it was important point is that cannabis itself is really dangerous to dogs and other animals cannabis contains a whole lot of different types of oils and different components I think kind of as well as one type of kind of refined component of cannabis sale in terms of it being licensed for use in the u.k. I'm not aware of the whole I mean I think the c b d or oil leak is one of their me. One element as opposed to the other one a thing is t c h Is that right which is the psychoactive component Yeah so I think you're preparing my room or my Was the things I'd want to use our who are deaf and want to find out a lot more before prescribe All right thank you very much as ever thanks very much also to Reagan as well and we are moving on to get a wee bit polyamorous. She's just utterly driven by writing as a chick she was born to die and she also said that if something so difficult to write is not worth doing Janice for sight she was celebrated prolific Scottish novelist mule spawn exactly 100 years after she was born I'm an editor at The National Library Scotland's international style of mutual spark exhibition and looked at her her writing was influenced by the 6 locations where she lived at a bit as old as that then led to all routes lead to Rome she listen London during the war sure it's beautiful the slender means the music box into the podcast this was who should feel little known that b.b.c. Don't call don't you key slash medieval Scotland get in touch with b.b.c. Radio Scotland call our free phone number on only to wait by 9295 w. You can text on to 95 let your charges apply mornings on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. So I am don't loading that middle sparkplug cause for sure that an absolute beauty this is. Video Scotland with me Cadmus with you up until 12 o'clock our name the place quiz carries on we've got lots of wrong answers here call Dunblane time don't do any work in a week to ensure all of those are incorrect but we do have some more correct answers trickling through last and from Glen Ross as well Don you've got it correct and medical s.b. Crook of Devon and Steve for a skin. You've all got it correct well done will seek another little clue before Carol have joins us 12 o'clock for the big reveal Also coming up before then. Morning to new research. People who practice meditation and mindfulness are just as stressed and aggressive as the rest of us so we'll be talking to pose that and also as they have a nose and they're going to stop selling 5 p. Carrier bags I think Tesco and another one of the big supermarkets have already done this so this is obviously the way that they are going so are you happy to see the back of the 5 p. Single use carrier bag I think they are offering 10 p. Bag for life bags so a bit of a change there so let us know what you think about that 8 to 95 every month and then the polyamory group meet to discuss what it's like to be in a relationship with more than one partner and tomorrow night the group features in a b b c 2 documentary in which members explain why one lover is not enough so 3 of the group join me now I know only tones and Morgan and all of a good morning to you all good morning and I'm going No Could you explain to me your relationship to each other not only maybe if you would so basically Morgan and all of our both my partners right Ok and Morgan all over you in a relationship with each other we are not no great Ok and soon you are exclusively in a relationship Well this was interesting but I don't. I have another partner. All over I don't believe you're snowing and I don't I thought you might be about elaborate which is why I didn't chime in sorry I'm going to. Say so Nonny you're in a relationship with Morgan. And all of our Morgan you are in a relationship with Noni and one other person that's correct and all of our you are in a relationship solely with money Yes Currently yes right Ok but presumably if you're a member of this group you would be open to a relationship with another person yes right Ok I mean is there is there a name for these relationships beyond polyamorous or is that just a kind of umbrella term polyamory does tend to be a bit of an umbrella term and there are specific names for are there for forms within that. But I personally just use polyamorous Ok I mean I've heard of the relationships and why relationships What's that Morgan So a relationship would be where you have you know so you have 3 people a b. And c. B. Is dating a and c. a And c. Are not dating each other so it's kind of forms of b. If you were to plot the sound like a white board or something Ok a y relationship would be like a v. Except the the person who is a person b. Is also dating a 3rd person so for the y. Shape right Ok all right and so for each of you individually if I get a shoe individually how are you generally open to polyamorous relationships of different types or are you choosing specifically they normally would you only be in a relationship with 2 separate people who are not in a relationship with each other. You know I think I'm definitely open to meeting other people or dating people who are also dating each other right Ok I mean you know that would be called in common parlance I mean you meet exception to apologise you do a threesome. I mean. I think within within the sort of polyamorous community 3 people who are all dating to each other is more commonly called a triad and so it doesn't carry the sort of the sexual connotations that threesome would write Ok and Morgan What's your preference. For relationship structure yeah. Right no I'm not actively looking for a for another relationship quite happy with the 2 at the moment. But I'm also remaining open to possibility if something happens something happens Ok. But you all of a same as what Morgan said I'm not really actively looking but yeah I think it's a case by case thing really I mean what is it that makes you declare yourself as poly amorous because you know unless you're involved in a. Sort of formal commitment to somebody actually you know one girl dating 2 guys it's not such a big deal is it not me. Well for me personally because I think we live in Scotland there is very much this assumption of monogamy. For me it's very much. There's this is something that I'm dating people but I was then sure I'm going to end up with one person and that's what I'm kind of saying no to. Right so you would never see yourself as being in a monogamous relationship right and can I ask why because I feel that it would I know that I'm capable of loving more than one person and I don't see why I should have to artificially limit that right I mean would you be comfortable in a monogamous relationship yes you would so if if one of your 2 just go dropped off your back to seek another one no. Because it's not that one isn't enough it's more that. I don't like the limits of because I'm perfectly happy having one partner I'm perfectly happy in having you know I wouldn't I don't feel incomplete not having a certain amount of partners it's more to do with being limited in what I can potentially do like sorry yeah you wouldn't stop being monogamous if you were dating anyone so you can be polyamorous and still have one partner sure yeah no I absolutely so so Morgan was that you know those hours all of it so you would you might expect it to be more going to you would too why is it that you choose not to be monogamous whether that's on track to sort theory and the attraction of polyamory all of a. It's more well. It's a relationship which relies on a certain kind of honesty whereas I think at least in my personal experience a lot of monogamous relationships. Sort of struggle with the idea that if you are seeing if you are with one person then you shouldn't really be attracted to anyone else or anything which means. If you're too open then it can lead to a certain amount of. Mistrusts or the other hand you then have to lie which seems very unhealthy So this is something that seems to avoid that problem right Ok do you mean in terms of sexual attraction yes right Ok so is your view then and a monogamous relationship kind of presumes that there's going to be. Fidel ety And you know an acceptance of fidelity that you don't think is actually sits well with you certainly in the classic old sort of definition of monogamous I mean obviously then there's open relationships and stuff but I think we're onto a sort of line that starts monogamy and goes through several other things including polyamory but in the at the end of that line with straight monogamy then yes I say there are certain restrictions imposed on certain people which I don't think are for everyone but you Morgan Well I would like to 1st sort of gently challenge the word choice there with a catch in terms of fidelity and such. So when when people think of polyamorous Well some people I should say think of people in a polyamorous relationship one of the common questions is isn't that cheating how do you feel about your partner cheating on your time it's a matter of different different rules I guess like you know if you're playing a game of football and you pick up a ball that's a foul but if you're playing a game or a bit expect it you know so fidelity I think is it's it's still fidelity it's just being paid to a different rule set Ok if that makes sense Ok so if you're in a relationship with 2 other people and you know you'd all discussed in your new what was happening except that you would be faithful to do is 2 people. I would be faithful to the terms of our relationship of those terms yes you know I'm dating 2 people but I'm also free to see other people then great if I'm free to see other people but I need to talk to the other 2 1st then I'll do that right Ok And so what are the terms of your relationship with Noni. Then you should be speaking in unison if. We want to take this we have we don't really have much in the way of explicit terms other than sort of maintaining safety and you know sort of the use of barrier method and things like that but other than that there's no sort of I don't really have to be clear much I keep Morgan in the loop with stuff that's happening but that's because I love him and I want him to know about my life and I love hearing about it yeah. Do you love him as much as the other guy yes exactly the same in very different ways and it's ways that you can't really quantify so the way that I love all over is very very different from the way that I love Morgan because they are very different people. So it would be you can't really compare them I think I said recently that it would be like saying whether I prefer chocolate or theater because they're just 2 completely different things you can't compare. And Morgan all over there's never any jealousy on the part of either of you certainly not no not at all not at all I mean we're just on basic So it may sound quite trivial but you know these are the way that people organize as allies you know look and you catch up and say oh I got 2 tickets for the cinema on Friday and I'm going to go for it then there and then we're going to go back and have an early night Netflix and chill and all that kind of thing and all of that says oh I had exactly the same idea. I mean that would be quite difficult because me and Morgan do live in separate cities. Meeting up tends to be planned pretty far in advance Ok but that's practicality but you know if we were all sort of living around the corner from each other in a polyamorous. Ship it could happen couldn't it could happen but in the very same way that you know Nonny could have plans to go out with her friends that night or you know have work to do or an essay to write and stuff and that would also be a clash and that would therefore have to be accommodated. Every life demands a certain amount of organization Well yeah but I mean I suppose it is a little bit different when somebody says oh you know what I'm just going to go with my friends you know because there's a work do on whereas if you know you are the sexual partner or the putative sexual partner and I actually you know really decide she'd rather have the other one well I mean. It's very much in the way that any double booking you know you back you certainly said yes I'm going to spend this time with 2 different people. Personally I would go with whichever one I said yes to 1st so if someone was like hey I've got to get to this thing I was like yeah and then somebody else said something similar the next day and then I realized I go Ok I'm really sorry I said yes but actually I already had plans so no I just really really complicated and hard work. No not at not more than any other social relationship I wouldn't say that having lots of friends is hard work so I don't see why this is really much different and what about the reaction of other friends and family know me I mean I hate to be like an old Victorian lady but. Once my mom found out that it wasn't a purely hedonistic. Choice I think she felt safer knowing that I that I was with people who sort of cared about me and that I wasn't supporting myself in a risky situation. A lot of people don't get it. But for the most part I've been very lucky in the social the social circles that I move in that most of them have been very very accepting I want to I'm very very lucky among the polyamorous community that I'm able to be completely open at work and things like that what about Morgan and all of our what was the interaction of your family and friends so . I don't entirely think my folks get it. In well at least at 1st they're gradually coming to terms with the the the idea that you know it's not a sign that things are unhealthy in one of my relationships or anything like that. But there are 2 teams to be you know are you safe are you happy are you hurting anyone yes yes no good. Do any of you have children no no if you were to say you want to do children with that change the rules I think it would affect their relationships to an extent. It would just be is it any couple yeah it would it would it would involve shift into live the life priorities and things like that but. All relationships change for various reasons children is one of those reasons so you would see polyamory as a lifetime choice I see it I don't see it's a choice I see it is the way I am as much as my sexuality is so it to me it's not a choice it's just part of who I am it's part of my identity. Because I think there are other people who are polyamorous but they don't know it or they don't feel able because of social strictures to be oh goodness yeah I think basically most of the times when I come out someone is polyamorous they the 1st thing they'll tell me is like could never do that and the most common reasons are either my partner wouldn't let me or I couldn't let my partner so it's never because I don't want to it's because of some form of jealousy or constriction either they would get jealous or their partner would be get you jealous and then on the night everyone would get drunk and I have 5 different people come up to me go so I really want to do this whole polyamory thing but I don't know how talk about it. Like that I doubt I will get at least a few people coming up to me and saying that they want to try it but they don't know what their partner is going to think but you seem to be a drive for that sexual or emotional. I mean I really want to partner so that I can have you know double emotion I think to an extent a lot of people go for it 1st for the sexual aspect because that's the most often talked about but I also think that there's a very there's very much in a appeal in the idea of having you know to more than one person who loves you in the way the partner loves you and being able to have that kind of intimacy with more than one person is a very attractive thing. Well if certainly give us your 1st thought is so. Is it tomorrow night the documentaries on tomorrow night at 9 o'clock to learn a lot and it's called Love Unlimited Yes All right great Ok Nonie all of our Morgan thank you very much indeed Victoria's on the trouble in the Highlands there are delays of around 5 minutes on the $82.00 in Fort William between each for you and bill for Drouet in Aberdeen sure the snow gets on a $99.00 between Coatbridge and on until a closed and extra care is needed on a 93 between Braemar and spittle again she although I'm told the route is possible in Perth t. St has heavy traffic around junction with South Street and West Lothian we're getting reports of East buying to lease on the ne to run junction 3 a Bathgate in Glasgow a 7 to 7 it's Hill Road has heavy West Bank traffic between the m 77 and that still train station on the m 77 itself there are slow traffic north bangs between junction 3 and junction to Parkhead road in Dumfries and Galloway we're getting reports of hazardous driving conditions on a 7 at Langham and it's a similar picture in the Borders in hunt for it on a 68 around Carter's Park 08995 double 8 b.b.c. Radio Scotland travel. Thank you very much for just a heads up as to what's happening tomorrow I'm going to be speaking to the 17 year old who had a baby at 14 and has just won the Scottish Schools writer of the year and also. Not. Speaking this Jillian who was inspired by Journey around Scotland with her doll going to motorbike to create a new app that could revolutionize traveling with your pet so there you go so to show any of us sitting there listening to polyamory who were she Polly who polyamorous Yeah well it worked for them as well like for their. Probably argue that since time began monogamy has not been everything has it you know so now that it's life works for them maybe it will but we move on yeah go into what you got coming up at 12 I find it interesting because it is like any topic where you know you're interview you're good at that and there are all these questions about their body you folks think. You're jealous it comes for Christmas dinner who comes for Christmas dinner what if you want to be a priest you have to choose between the 2 books for you would you do it you know as a different book. Yeah instinct very good. It would be so it just it would be interesting they were all relatively young here and then I don't know about the other members of the group but I'll certainly watch the documentary tomorrow night and whether or not they have people say in their forty's and fifty's. Yeah because I think you just have a different set of priorities are supposed to move on anyway what are you going to cut the scene to biscuits right 100 years since women won the right to vote to look at that how often we have and you don't we how difficult it is to get kids off the phones or tablets and reading books there's a project which is if you read 4 books you get some tickets to go almost a football look at that story of this homeless man who lived think Glasgow is from Ireland called Dublin Dave and people didn't know who he was they had no relatives they raise money for a busing people who are homeless to his cremation then the the function after was really nice story we're doing that one and the things we used to do going to go no like writing letters developing photos and looking ahead to future trends we're going to look at look back at the things we no longer do that you don't do you have to make a call from a public form no no definitely no no a shelter is a rainy. Public opinion when Yuri Yes I did was I suppose you got e-mails no so I suppose but you don't sit down to write a letter and say we're going to write these letters letter home I love you darling I'll see you in 3 weeks you know write them do you know you're doing it and I still to you several girlfriends a letter later Frenzel got letters up in a bedroom among those from the boyfriend the tillage boyfriend really and one was he just to see the. Current model that would be telling that would be telling. John thank you very much not redundant yet. So it's $1137.00 where are we with name the place quickly changes subject and Ryan is increased that's not where it is Kate's in Bathgate she thinks it's hard it's no lots of people going around the gate saying you and says I study bridge the best we towed in Scotland No it's not but there's a good plug for Stoney bridge and Helen thinks it's Aberdeen and Robin thinks it is Kelty new it isn't. We've heard how many clues out. For sure we do another clue as to another clue so clue number one it was last week's place name 2 easy Today's a very hard Clue number 2 it is not named after a church Clue number 3 it has something in common with calendar and Clue number 4 it has something else in common with auctor arder So let's go for a clue number 5 it has something else in common with dun d. That might be the last clue before 12 before Carol have joins us to tell us where in Scotland she is talking about so 8 to 95 so that you can send us in your. So according to new research into the effects of meditation the results phoned new concrete proof that the practice makes us calmer and more compassionate people and actually people who meditate are just as aggressive and stressed as. Everybody else don't go. From Coventry universities when the universities the collaborated with the study so yes is that if you're able to be a more compassionate person then you would be better off volunteering with a charity you know we've heard so much about meditation and perhaps more recently mindfulness this is a really interesting study to come out and began this with says good morning to you Miguel hello very good morning very good morning to you and also with us Miguel is mindfulness coach Conny McLaughlin So hope you know to make her angry I hope not this morning call it a morning. Good morning so as I say mindfulness I think in particular is something that we talk about a lot of the moment Miguel I mean and certainly is certain schools have introduced into that seen as a very useful way old we assume making people a bit more relaxed making them a bit more full. You have inside that well it's not just from one study there's been recent studies showing that the high of the excitement is why you had some of the accidents and the recent papers just one of this last study showing that in the sky. The expected in fact of meditation techniques in making you less aggressive last prejudiced or more compassionate use also where you had of the evidence the evidence actually tells us that. Are at most moderate but when you look at it more carefully the research is riddled with all kinds of methodological biases so we can't really say that meditation makes us better people at this stage can we say that it does anything. Well at least what we're looking at doesn't say that it doesn't make you for instance more aggressive that that something. So but you haven't been able to identify any positive benefit. So in the case of the pro-social effects and whether it makes you act in a more positive constructive way towards others the results are rather weak that's all we can say at this moment Ok what about in terms of a personal benefit not necessarily in the way that you behave tell the people but just as a person in terms of your function. So as I was saying there is some evidence that it works for instance in helping you deal with recurrent depression or anxiety however when you compare this to other forms of treatment or even physical exercise actually it doesn't seem to work any better than other forms of known intervention right. Connie how did you react to that. No one aggressively can thank you. And I think that the 1st thing to mention and this is I think this is one of many studies Miguel's you know clear in terms of that this is the research that that has study has finds and I think we've seen hundreds. Of studies including some by the u.s. Agency for hailed the Fanes quitely office and to fact that it reduces multiple dimensions of emotional stress and you know using different techniques to be able to prove that I think we need to be very clear here all and we use that blanket terram meditation you know that's like saying Going to the gym but what type of meditation do you use what type of practice do you use Similarly if you go to the gym do you use the running machine or do you use weights that think that when we talk about using meditation as a tool to just stress which I think the research that Miguel has has published suggests it does and I think it's really important to say that it's a vehicle that type of meditation which is a mindfulness type meditation is a vehicle to help make better choices so if you just race and we know that using breathing techniques invitation reduces the cortisol within the body so the physiological effects are very clear to see so we become more strace which in turn then helps us to make better choices so makes helps us to our sever give us the space to say yeah I want to go and you know and gauge involuntary work or whatever else we're talking of a there I think it's also important to mention there's another form of meditation a sort of who are visualisation technique which is ultimately used to cultivate the practice old and of compassion old good attitudes of Ollie's all those things that if you use that as a practice. Are using a process called emotional contagion we know that that actually works we know we see. People Daily I see in clients all the time and I see within myself how much of a difference in terms of how that meets you see you generally if you're using that as a practice and if you're using that if you're not using it whether that's a placebo I think the key thing is and again going back to the scares that Miguel has. Said Is it works like a. Key thing for me the key and that it works so if there's anyone left you thinking to themselves oh well you know meditation doesn't work it's not something that you know that I should be using I would strongly see that that's a dangerous name. Well I don't know is that the message or. No No And my colleague just mentioned something which is really important people need homes right and right now at a time when people have become much less religious than there have been for thousands of years I think Mother tertian is channeling some of that hope that people are now treating this as some kind of quantify religious technique and I think that is important as my colleague resigning because it gives people hope and it might work for them much like a placebo and I think it is important that we don't take away that hope from people whether it's meditation or or something off. But if you're saying that volunteering could do a similar thing well you could say right to go and volunteer for a worthwhile Kohls is a benefit to you as an individual is a benefit to the coals that you choose to support so there's a double when there whereas we do know that you know mindfulness meditation has become in some respects an industry and people might be going and paying money for something that they think they are going to get something in return and if you are you know questioning that return then you know that is going to change people's choices yeah it has become indeed a 1000000000 pounds industry and it's not triangulated which is which is a different problem but as you were saying if the purpose is to make a small. Pro-social perhaps sitting down on your own is not really the best available way to make you act in a more pro-social way actually engaging directly is actually a double win situation however we have to think that the success of these meditation and mindfulness techniques happens at a time when our National Health Service is in a difficult situation and this is a cheap techniques because it gives people just solitude to look after themselves you have a group intervention at any you tell people you go off and do this on your own so it's very highly individualistic which is different from the usual psychotherapy where you're working with another person so the healing power comes from that relationship Well yeah yeah but I mean bottom line I mean if you're pouring you're putting question into whether or no this carries real value. You know people have below the choices they can make but they want to make an effective choice do they particularly if they're parting with money I mean are you suggesting in any way that there are practitioners there who are selling snake oil. I think there are practitioners there are not regulating the sense start they don't have any training in mental health for instance. Various kinds of problems which except that Cody I absolutely 100 percent agree I think that we need to be very very clear on what the message and and terms of what we actually trying to say here that you know that meditation as a whole as a practice is something that is is simply a benefit to people and that we need to be just get more clean on the Basij because I don't know but it will be people lessening to this who will be an acquisition where they have maybe anxiety have meant to Hale's out of all that I should maybe difficult things that happen to them and they're looking for you use the word hope and looking for something to help them through that practice need to statistics that are not just the research that you've done shows that actually this does help that does work so I think we need to be we need to be really clear on that whether there are people out there who are using or are teaching this or who are you know promoting this who are not trained in mental health yes absolutely that is absolutely key I think that people have to be have to be given their you know people are not selling you know people are not daft I think it's about making that choice is if you're going out to seek someone you're going to learn meditation or maintenance on that you do that in the right way I think we give people you know the power to say that you do that and then I sense an end to a question and to give it a thanks going back to the point of a whether or not this is a take that works you know you know I speaking to clubs or working with clients on a regular basis and knowing and seeing the difference in the benefit that it makes in people's life I feel very very strongly about making sure that people know that they have the choice to take the site for themselves try it yourself do it and expedience it and then come back and tell me that it doesn't make you feel better would you say that the people may go try it or not. I would say whatever muster question I ask why why do you want to try this what is the motivation if it's for instance to try to reduce trash trying to sign a treaty it may be just thing for you but. It's not necessarily the thing for you other things may be better it doesn't transfer everyone in the same way that's a really important message you know that Ok. I think it's not and we're not seeing that made as as as a practice as going to Seoul the ells of the wilds I think given the fact that we live in a society where people are struggling the n.h.s. Is struggling to cope with and people are suffering from depression and anxiety I think this is an 80 causative thank you for people to implement within the licensing that's a really important think that people you know Amber Well as long as they go into it with their eyes open I suppose and have an idea of what they want to get of it and there are as you say Kone and number of studies that have been taken been conducted into this. To McGill and funniest of study yes obviously ideas from the brain belief and behavior cover to university this is one Sunday in conjunction with with other universities thank you very much Miguel thank you very much to Coney you can let us know if you do practice meditation or mindfulness or the form of a county says not necessarily old the same get in touch and tell us whether or not you think it has been a benefit to you. Still gas is coming in from the place Marshall is suggesting the lake of Menteith and Carol Carolyn say Oct or McTee No it's not but Carol Huff Professor venomous snakes will be here very shortly and she's going to put a mystery in the Scottish Cup There's a lawyer on the b.b.c. The 4th rind had its fair share in drama. I got it for today here but it looks like a cop and some resenting victories was being called. Are such. As a goal this goal for Celtic the pressure is on but who will write the headlines in the face trying to write fiction that exactly the Scottish Cup on t.v. Radio. Really exotic back. To the action sports signed this weekend on b.b.c. Bt Scotland. Calls you store nice morning squeaky Adams on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. Has to have become the major retailer to face a 5 piece single use carrier bags they know offer a more expensive heavier duty bag for life. Think a lot of those are more recyclable. I don't know whether or not that makes them more environmentally friendly or not says they're attempting to reduce plastic food and the phasing out of the 5 piece and go use bag is the next step along with reducing the amount of plastic in packaged foods so we've got roast Clark journalist with us and Penny poison environmentalist will get their souls on it Penny good news. I think change it's not just straight food is it and there are lots of problems associated with it but we do have true would you see and if these very friendly banks are fraudulent to the environment we know which parent are they not just going to be replaced by the 10 p. Ones the same age when you buy really really flimsy plastic I think we know it doesn't last long they take a really easily they blow away in the wind and you actually cause huge transmitter with a heavy bag the idea of raising you all going to go to use it more often than one. Of course if you use something like hand which is my preference touch is going to last you gave So it's a question that we have to Ricci's CNAME to trust fixing the environment and. Fun of us relations to. A roast you think is a good idea good move. Probably faster because Islam increased the revenue going to defer sending rather more expensive bikes for life than charging 5 pounds for each single use plastic bag which I have to then hand over anyway but whether it's such good news for the environment not quite so sure the Scottish government did a study into single use plastic bags in 2005 that was followed up by the department's informants in form from intelligence evolve in England 6 years later and both of those studies came to the conclusion that single use. Plastic bags are actually less harmful to the environment than many of the alternatives some cotton for example lose 10 pollution it would have to be used a $173.00 times before it became less harmful to the environment than Mr Milosevic . 173 tons was the Environment Agency I suppose depends on human behavior how people react to this whether Norty you know to not have the single use back for 5 p. And you have the 10 p. Heavier use ones the hope would be penny from your point of view that people with that additional cost don't buy so many of them aren't quite so liberal with them because it is a heavier duty bag they do that to they come and reuse it if they don't do that then it could go the other way and let's bring in the click queen who's a mom of 2 good morning Nicola Good morning Kate you are the secret shopper here. As it is what your particular habits are but do you think this will change them. I think for me personally I like the option of having a plan I think that a lot of these mothers that I should organize you know when I'm just a bag at the same as in myself I do have to buy bags each time. And it would be nice you know the daily so we've been to have the option of having a smaller bag there rather than trucking to the more expensive back so it's not there what you think you will do just that you would say Oh God This cost me 10 pm going to bring it back and use it again because it had me. Know I know that. And I know a lot of people do that but I told him to just you know just buy the bigger bag and name probably just buy another one when I go back which as I do really but that's a 5 would be nice to have the smaller ups in a you know at what single bit make a huge dozens of you're going just a backup of items in the smaller bag where you probably could carry them. So Penny it might not have the. Come that you would want. Really fully get busy putting the thing we've really really got to consider is the fact when we are careless with our use of plastic and not just with plastic bags but all form of plastic that is go into every single system including our water drinking system and I'm sure all the lovely mommies just been shopping lots to give her kids a very healthy diet but of to consider this it's been estimated that when we ate fish and shellfish we're ingesting up to 11 sizes and tiny particles of plastic this this is not just a matter of convenience it really isn't anything the plastics were 1st introduced into the environment in the late forty's early fifty's there was an issue with plastics in the oceans just in a very very short space of time we now have a rapidly and Demick situation which is not just choking sea as we saw in the David Aston program we are actually in there we have to reduce these plastic can employ Yeah but the question is what is the most effective way we all be living I suppose and we're still wrestling with that taste and saying in its way the single use plastic bags are by degradable and they could be reused this food waste bags. I mean I guess there are a number of ways of tackling this were right thank you very much thanks for Also thanks Nick we need to move on and find the answer to today's place question Carol has with us morning Carol morning good morning we are short of time let's have the drum roll. Coffee cold. Cody Well we did get quite a few correct answers and finally Trish in the Borders just after 10 o'clock Well Dr Ish But having said that lots and lots of wrong answers right up until the very end and let's run through the clues so last week's place too easy to do hard Ok so you could call the means place of the heart for from dictation probably using hard in the sense of impregnable strong or possibly made of study and I think your listeners picked up on the pun between 80 and hard quite easily say they're getting up to the unit for the Granite City or hard capital and so on so hard for. Not named after a church it turned into cut through folk etymology but there's no connection with Scott's tool something in common with calendar calendar means hard Walter and it's from a related. Yes a hard nosed hard water line which is the Roger that's again Pictish. No sorry it's related to that picture term I'm trying to do this too quickly although I know you do well yeah the Celtic languages are all quite all related to each other. So calendar is from Brittonic all Pictish the heart of October author Bostock's writer and Cody on nicknamed the lines to. Main Street and right down to Fort well done Carol Excellent thank you very much brilliantly Professor Carol health there Professor of all the must. It's university on raveling the clues to yet another name the place she'll be back next Tuesday with yet another set of clues right now John Beatty takes over 12. 1900.

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>> reporter: for now, they are not planning on expanding their triad, but it's not off the table. >> the family unit comes first. and right now we just wouldn't even have enough time you know to date anyone else. >> what's wrong with seeking your own happiness and your own fulfillment with love? shouldn't we all be in a space where we're happy? >> we're not saying that polyamory is for everyone. we're just saying let's open up a dialogue that there's other ways to do this, because the status quo just hasn't been working. >> reporter: for "nightline," i'm abbie boudreau in oakland california. >> wow. >> that's all you have to say is wow? >> i learned a lot in that piece, actually. >> it started because melinda wanted to bring a man into the relationship. so the other partner kind of agreed. they made a list of qualities they wanted in a man. one of them was that he had to be very masculine. >> okay. okay. i'll go home and try this. honey, i'd like to bring another woman into the relationship. >> something tells me your wife's not going to go for that.

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