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sue. clive, going to talk to neil wallis, deputy editor on the sun and someone from hacked off and it will be interesting to hear their takes, but clive, you know huw, tell us about him? mr; but clive, you know huw, tell us about him?— but clive, you know huw, tell us about him? g , ., , . but clive, you know huw, tell us abouthim? ., , . ., about him? my personal experience of huw, he is about him? my personal experience of huw. he is a — about him? my personal experience of huw, he is a collaborative, _ huw, he is a collaborative, charming, polite and extremely helpful professional colleague. i have been on the news with him many times and he is someone who is always working in the service of the story, in my experience. some presenters, don't take this personally, you are not one of them, sometimes you feel it is the presenter�*s show and the questions can go all over the show. some of the great presenters, i put eddie mair in that category, they ask you what questions do you want, you are
the important element there is no police _ the important element there is no police action. they have looked at the allegation, effectively as it first surfaced in the sun, as it was passed _ first surfaced in the sun, as it was passed to — first surfaced in the sun, as it was passed to the bbc and then passed from the _ passed to the bbc and then passed from the bbc to detectives and decided — from the bbc to detectives and decided there is nothing for them to do. decided there is nothing for them to do there _ decided there is nothing for them to do there is — decided there is nothing for them to do. there is no criminal allegation there _ do. there is no criminal allegation there it _ do. there is no criminal allegation there it is — do. there is no criminal allegation there. it is quite an extraordinary ntonient— there. it is quite an extraordinary moment that we have this situation where _ moment that we have this situation where this— moment that we have this situation where this leading television personality and the one hand is effectively, his family have felt he has had _ effectively, his family have felt he has had to— effectively, his family have felt he has had to be identified over something that the police have decided — something that the police have decided tonight actually is not worth— decided tonight actually is not worth investigating. find decided tonight actually is not worth investigating.— decided tonight actually is not worth investigating. decided tonight actually is not worth investiuuatin. . ., , , worth investigating. and he has been uraed over worth investigating. and he has been urged over the _ worth investigating. and he has been urged over the last _ worth investigating. and he has been urged over the last few _ worth investigating. and he has been urged over the last few days - worth investigating. and he has been urged over the last few days by - urged over the last few days by other bbc presenters to come forward and identify himself. just to be clear, huw edwards has been identified, he has not resigned. absolutely. we have nowjust received via the press association a longer statement from his wife. it saysin longer statement from his wife. it says in light of the recent reporting by the bbc, i make in a
social media? look, privacy laws have been _ social media? look, privacy laws have been at _ social media? look, privacy laws have been at the _ social media? look, privacy laws have been at the centre - social media? look, privacy laws have been at the centre of - have been at the centre of conversation here, and the privacy laws that we have in place in the uk are very strict, we also have very strict defamation laws, and they have protected huw�*s identity up until this point, but they have actually also exposed other people to risk, and we have seen a situation in which other high—profile male bbc presenters have been accused of wrongdoing when this entire story has absolutely nothing to do with them, and that is really problematic, i think, for privacy and defamation laws in our country, and i hope that maybe in the future lawyers and future case law will take these things into consideration. we are in a new age now where the press have responsibilities on these matters, but social media companies do not have the same as possibilities, and
developing in many ways and would prevent but the bbc in the newspaper from identifying the person and that made it worse because it ramped up all the obligations meant that people went wild on social media and social media has a lot to answer for, the people who use social media have a lot to answer for. but for the time being, i think things can move on an we could take a deep breath and review the situation. ask at the metropolitan police have said just because there's no criminality involved, but the doesn't mean that the right things are done all the time. it was from here but the main thing people want to see tonight is his wife's done one in incredibly brave thing and so many people will be thinking of you tonight. is be thinking of you tonight. is reflecting on the past few days and am i the amount of speculation, presenters about to go through to say that it was not me. as we
over the last five years or so. and thatis over the last five years or so. and that is why currently we are where we are and we don't know who the name of the presenter, and quite rightly so. name of the presenter, and quite riahtl so. , , ., ~ rightly so. presenter breaking lockdown restrictions, - rightly so. presenter breaking lockdown restrictions, an - rightly so. presenter breaking - lockdown restrictions, an allegation about that. is that in the public interest because quite a few high—profile presenters and high—profile presenters and high—profile people where nabbed by the papers on that. and they were perhaps going on the radio and tv channels and saying this is the case, you mustn't do this, mustn't do that and then went ahead and did it. does that change anything, paul? i suppose if this had started with the story about a high—profile individual breaching lockdown then perhaps we might know who that person is, but because this started in the way that it started, we
course they're entitled to a private life of long as it course they're entitled to a private life of long is it course they're entitled to a private life of long is out of the bag and it's the cat is out of the bag and you know about these things, i'm afraid it affects the way we look at you know about these things, i'm afre presenters the way we look at you know about these things, i'm afre presenter wille way we look at you know about these things, i'm afre presenter will be ay we look at you know about these things, i'm afre presenter will be due e look at you know about these things, i'm afre presenter will be due and )k at you know about these things, i'm afre presenter will be due and that's the presenter will be due and that's when the things that's to be 0ne one of investigated going forward. one of the questions _ investigated going forward. one of the questions that _ investigated going forward. one of the questions that the _ investigated going forward. one of the questions that the bbc - investigated going forward. one of the questions that the bbc will. investigated going forward. one of the questions that the bbc will be | the questions that the bbc will be looking at is without regard, knowing a little bit more than what we did five days ago, what are your reflections on how this is been handled by the bbc. fin reflections on how this is been handled by the bbc.— reflections on how this is been handled by the bbc. on the whole, it is not too bad. _ handled by the bbc. on the whole, it is not too bad, he _ handled by the bbc. on the whole, it is not too bad, he is _ handled by the bbc. on the whole, it is not too bad, he is very _ handled by the bbc. on the whole, it is not too bad, he is very credible - is not too bad, he is very credible and honest in the as given the long interview about this and this is not like other situations, this is not a gruesome cover—up going on for years, this is not someone was done something evil orfor a lot of people. i think by march, you can go over the process of this and seal it is dealt with and maybe tighten that “p is dealt with and maybe tighten that up and maybe people take call when someone like the family of this poor
the story, why that was not perhaps given greater weight, in the coverage? i think these are all things. — coverage? i think these are all things, they are interesting questions, but it is not summing i can answer. — questions, but it is not summing i can answer, it is for people at the sun to _ can answer, it is for people at the sun to answer.— sun to answer. and uc a clear divergence — sun to answer. and uc a clear divergence tween _ sun to answer. and uc a clear divergence tween how- sun to answer. and uc a clear divergence tween how privacyi sun to answer. and uc a clear- divergence tween how privacy law operates in the real world and how it operates online —— do you see a clear divergence between? absolutely. i do not think people online _ absolutely. i do not think people online have a care about privacy, no one, _ online have a care about privacy, no one. when _ online have a care about privacy, no one, when people respecting at the weekend, _ one, when people respecting at the weekend, and naming names... presenters _ weekend, and naming names... presenters going online to protester innocencem — presenters going online to protester innocence... they do not see it as applying _ innocence... they do not see it as applying to— innocence... they do not see it as applying to that, they understand applies— applying to that, they understand applies to the bbc and national newspapers and local newspaper, for that matter, they all told the line when _ that matter, they all told the line when it _ that matter, they all told the line when it comes privacy law, but they do not _ when it comes privacy law, but they do not see — when it comes privacy law, but they do not see it — when it comes privacy law, but they do not see it as applying to them when _ do not see it as applying to them when they're on the facebook page with their— when they're on the facebook page with their friends, and they do not appreciate — with their friends, and they do not appreciate something they put on there _ appreciate something they put on there can — appreciate something they put on there can then get 2000 and thousand
obligation for presenters, employers, new to not identify them but equally it is a responsibility to the — but equally it is a responsibility to the licence fee payer to conduct a proper— to the licence fee payer to conduct a proper investigation into the claims — a proper investigation into the claims and i think the issue here is that is— claims and i think the issue here is that is the — claims and i think the issue here is that is the fine balance everybody is teaching around at the problem is being _ is teaching around at the problem is being because the gene pool has slowly _ being because the gene pool has slowly been put through a toxic game of bingo— slowly been put through a toxic game of bingo were certain members of the bbc in— of bingo were certain members of the bbc in that— of bingo were certain members of the bbc in that particular high—profile pay bracket or area that this person is alleged _ pay bracket or area that this person is alleged to work, somehow, and said it _ is alleged to work, somehow, and said it is _ is alleged to work, somehow, and said it is not — is alleged to work, somehow, and said it is not me and it's a game of careful— said it is not me and it's a game of careful and — said it is not me and it's a game of careful and what has happened here is we _ careful and what has happened here is we need — careful and what has happened here is we need to drill in something more _ is we need to drill in something more specific wishes if you're any position— more specific wishes if you're any position of— more specific wishes if you're any position of such privilege whereby peopte _ position of such privilege whereby people look to you because they either— people look to you because they either see you regularly on the telly— either see you regularly on the telly hours because of the credibility of what you say, you are a politician. — credibility of what you say, you are a politician, whatever, and person inftuence. — a politician, whatever, and person influence. a — a politician, whatever, and person influence, a huge start, then there comes—
employee in respect of their contract of employment. there is also another issue that this raises, which is that if you're in this position, and i am really talking here about presenters, what exactly is the behaviour, out of the workplace, that the presenter is supposed to abide by, that means that they won't be in breach of their contract of employment? because i have not seen a clause in a presenter�*s contract that specifies what they can and can't do in their private life. and that is where this becomes, i think, extremely difficult, and that is why the matter has to be investigated properly by the employer, because it
there? ~ , ,., , be a lot of reaction to this, want there? ~ , �* be a lot of reaction to this, want there? �* , , �* be a lot of reaction to this, want there? ~ , , ~ ., there? absolutely. and if we look at who huw edwards _ there? absolutely. and if we look at who huw edwards is, _ there? absolutely. and if we look at who huw edwards is, he _ there? absolutely. and if we look at who huw edwards is, he is - there? absolutely. and if we look at who huw edwards is, he is a - who huw edwards is, he is a household name. viewers up and on the country know him as the bbc, of the face of bbc news, he is one of the face of bbc news, he is one of the bbc�*s best known presenters, and it will come as a shock to many, many viewers, and so there will be a lot of reaction, but i think a pause, really, in the sense that he is receiving this treatment now and his wife vicky flind has clearly, and understandably, been wanting some space for him to receive that treatment and to get better, and so she has asked for privacy at this time, but saying also that once he is well enough, he will be able to respond to the allegations that have been made against him.— respond to the allegations that have been made against him. helena, stay with us as we — been made against him. helena, stay with us as we continue _ been made against him. helena, stay with us as we continue to _ been made against him. helena, stay with us as we continue to work- with us as we continue to work through these developments.