Take mike pence, for example. he took contemporaneous notes of his conversations with president trump. he provided a direct account of their conversations, when only the two of them were present. we knew, generally, the circuit select committee knew, generally, what happened to those conversations. but it's really powerful to have a participant in the conversation recount it. i think pat cipollone has given some additional information that he stopped short of providing to us, because of privilege. this is all because jack smith has the ability, because this is a criminal proceeding, to go imme...