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Trey good evening thank you for joining us im trey gowdy Sunday Night In America. Debate number two is in the books. It was a spirited conversation among a new generation of Republican Leaders with the legacy of Ronald Reagan providing the backdrop. The backdrop may be fading reagan projected u. S. Military power Around The World and made no secret of communism in russia and he famously gave us the 11th Commandment thou shall not speak ill of a fellow republican. And you wonder how reagan would do in the Republican Party are you joining us now a new cover to politics who acquitted himself quit...

Violated that order seven times, seen as Marshall Cohen hello, and joins me now so marshall, what can we expect . What are we going to be learning over the course the next few days as the historic trial gets underway. Yeah, heavy dose of history in new york city. This has this is an Election Interference case going back to 2016. Their indictment frames this as a scheme to falsify Business Records that Hush Money Payment to Stormy Daniels routed through Michael Cohen reimburse through the Trump Organization according to the prosecutors, they say that trump and his company basically cooked the b...

is bigger than my presidency. i find it absolutely insane. any person running for office that we would go after them in order to silence them? that's a scary place to be. this is all done by biden and his people. may be his people more portly i don't know if biden knows too much about it. >> i think it's a complete failure of our justice system. it's a complete joe biden kamala harris hit job. >> it will catch up to him. >> i think it's the right verdict. etiquette shows our system of justice works if you are rich or poor. >> i'm shocked he keeps going. >> i'm willing to do whatever ...

Example, we know that they, that they are highly educated and informed. two in particular lawyers, two or engineers, many with master's degrees. so what does that tell you? do you think about how they're going to handle this case? >> well, from a prosecutor standpoint, you like well-educated savvy jurors because you feel they won't be daunted by emotional issues. they can fall it personally. i don't like engineers, lead jury feel they're a little bit to mechanically oriented. they want certainty. it's like having a mathematician bright and then jury. i'm lawyers are fine as long as they're not...

And will trump try to stand in the way of that testimony if pence is indeed willing? joining us now, former acting solicitor general of the united states, also with us, is glen kirsch ner, a former federal prosecutor, both are msnbc legal analysts. thank you both for being here. glen, starting with you, from a prosecutor standpoint, what's the benefit of speaking to pence, especially considering they've already spoken to his two top deputies? >> you want to get, you want to get it right out of the horse's mouth. let's remember, pence is not only a fact witness, to donald trump's pressure campa...