planning, secretly said they would take over the u.s. government. is it justice? well, we ll get into that with our experts. we have someone who was one of the top prosecutors in the united states, the u.s. attorney for the famed southern district of new york, david kelly, also full disclosure, my former boss, and a legal writer for the new york times magazine, emily bazly. if people are not studying this every day and living their lives, a lot is going on. when we hear someone is charged with sedition, how big of a deal? it s a really big deal. it wasn t used much over time. it was used back in the civil war era until we ran into the puerto rican nationalists, and then was used for sheikh rokwin when some international
what the sitting president at the time knew or understood about it. just to give our audience a little context, the last time we had a federal sedition prosecution was 26 years ago when omar abdel rahman, also known as the blind sheikh and nine others were convicted of plotting to blow up the united nations, the fbi building, bridges and tunnels between new jersey and new york. before that, more than a dozen puerto rican nationalists were convicted in the early 1980s of sedition in their role of armed forces of liberation, a group claimed bombings across the united states. this is a very, very serious charge. and joyce, the question then becomes what trump knew. now we know that trump is trying to say that he cannot be held responsible for anything that happened that day. but judge mehta who is seeing that case in court said the following. whether trump should be immune from civil lawsuits, not talking criminal right now. what do i do about the fact that the president didn t denounce