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they are all boston strong and we salute them. i m anderson cooper. good night. i hope you were with us during the last hour and you were inspired as watching adrianne haslet-davis story. she is truly boston strong. one thing she wanted to get across to everyone watching is something her grandmother said to her as a kid it is okay to not be okay sometimes. but adrien is doing okay. and she has a long road ahead of her as do many of the survivors but we will root for her along the way. if you are just joining us, we expect a news conference any moment from australian authorities on the search for flight 370. it is 11:00 a.m. in the search area. the newly refined and somewhat
smaller search area. you see it in the red near the top of the screen. the gray is former search areas. the question right now is will it change yet again when angus houston, who s coordinating the search effort, steps to the make phone in perth. will he make bigger news. we will find out shortly and we expect the press conference any moment now. you can you can see it live on the screen. they are preparing the podium and such. as we wait for him i want to go to aar erin mclaughlin. they refined the search area. what do we know about the search going on right now? that s right, anderson. they managed to reduce the search area by some 1300 square miles, which believe it or not, is a relatively minor adjustment, compared to the adjustment they made on sunday when they reduced the search
area to roughly a third of what it used to be. still, we re talking about some 33,000 square miles. a very, very large area, which is why authorities have been stressing that it is critical they get more information to be able to reduce it even further. as you said, it will be interesting to see if mr. houston has any comments on that in the press conference that we re expecting just minutes from now. when i last talked to authorities in our 8:00 hour, people involved in the search, they were saying they were going to give it many more days, perhaps more than a week of continuing to try to just focus on hearing anymore pings that might occur. the assets that are now being used in the search, do we know how many ships and planes are out there looking? well, today, according to the joint agency coordination center, press statements this morning, there are some 15
planes and 14 aircraft out scouring those waters, but it has sob said in some 23 days of the operation we have had no reported findings of any kind of debris. as you mentioned, all eyes right now focused on the australian vessel, the ocean shield with the american ping locater on board scouring the waters in a ladder-like formation, trying to redetect that signal that gave so many people hope here on sunday. again, it will be interesting to see if mr. houston has any comments, any updates on that. the past few press conferences of this kind that we have experienced over the past few days there have been dramatic announcements. anderson. erin mclaughlin, we appreciate that. we will check in with erin and as i said if you are just joining us we are waiting to hear from authorities. we do not know what they will be announcing at this press conference. it is a little past 11:00 a.m. in australia and in the search area. obviously the search is already
underway. we don t know if there are new developments, though, beyond the refining the search area. we anticipate some sort of announcement being made. we will bring it to you live. we want to bring in our panel. author of why planes crash, investigator fights for safe skies and doing calculations on the search. boeing trip 777 captain and miles o brien, former department of transportation inspector who represents accident victims and their families. richard, let s start with you. you were with me in the 8:00 hour. you heard from captain mark math thi mathies from the u.s. navy. he said the life of the pinger is 30 days and may go up to 45 days and may allow that much time to focus the search on trying to get another ping. yes.
last night, angus houston said i m just keeping an eye forgive me, i m keeping an eye to see if he will stop me. he said they will go several more days. here s angus houston. okay. good morning. i m accompanied by the same team as on previous occasions. i m pleased to be here to brief you today. today i can report some further encouraging information regarding the search for missing flight mh-370. on monday, i advised the pinger locater deployed by the ocean shield had detected signals consistent with those emitted by aircraft black boxes on two separate occasions.
i can now tell you that ocean shield has been able to reacquire the signals on two more occasions. like yesterday afternoon, and late last night perth time. the detection yesterday afternoon was held for approximately five minutes and 32 seconds. the detection late last night was held for approximately seven minutes. ocean shield has now detected four transmissions in the same broad area. yesterday s signals will assist in better defining a reduced and much more manageable search area on the ocean floor. i believe we are searching in the right area, but we need to visually identify aircraft wreckage before we can confirm
with certainty that this is the final resting place of mh-370. for the sake of the 239 families, this is absolutely imperative. today the ocean shield is continuing the slow, pain staking and methodical work to refine the location around the four acoustic detections. we are not yet at the point of deploying the autonomous underwater vehicle. the better ocean shield can define the area the easier it will be for the autonomous underwater vehicle to subsequently search for aircraft wreckage. it is important to note that ocean shield can search six times the amount of area with the towed pinger locater than can be done with the sonar on the autonomous underwater
vehicle. searching underwater is an extremely laborious task. so the more work we can do on the surface with the towed ping er locater to affix the position of the transmission the less work we will have to do below the surface, scouring the sea floor. given the guaranteed shelf life hoe pinger batteries is 30 days and it s now 33 days since the aircraft went missing it s important that we gather as much information to fix the possible location of the aircraft while the pingers are still transmitting. in further promising information, we have received the results of the data analysis conducted on the signals detected by ocean shield on the first two occasions. this data analysis was conducted
by the australia center based at albatross in new south wales. it is the australian defense forces center of excellence for acoustic analysis. the analysis determined that a very stable, distinct and clear signal was detected at 33.331 kilohertz and that it consistently pulsed at a 1.106 second interval. they, therefore, assess the transmission was not of natural origin and was likely sourced from specific electronic equipment. they believe the signals to be consistent with the specification and description of a flight data recorder.
up to 11 military aircraft, four civil aircraft and up to 40 ships will assist in today s search. a modified apc-3 will coordinate with ocean shield in conducting a sonar search in the same vicinity. today a weak front is moving in from the southeast, and is expected to bring scattered showers. the planned search area is about 75,000 square kilometers. you may have noticed the size of the search area has significantly reduced over the last couple of days. based on ocean shield s detections we are now searching a much more concentrated area based on the drift pred cases made possible by ocean
shields detections. a smaller area has allowed much tighter search patterns based entirely on visual search principles. in other words, we have intensified our search in the visual search area. just a bit of housekeeping, at my last press conference i said i could come back to you with the precise timing of when the signals were detected by the ocean shield. the first detection took place on saturday, the 5th of april at 4:45 p.m. perth time. the second detection took place on saturday, the 5th of april at 9:27 p.m. perth time. the third detection took place on tuesday the 8th of april at 4:27 p.m. perth time. the fourth detection took place
on tuesday, 8th of april at 10:17 p.m. perth time. i m now happy to take your questions, but before i do that i would refer you to the diagram there which shows you where all of the detections were made. i would also highlight to you the satellite hand shake calculation number seven. that was the hand shake, which was a partial ping. where the experts in kuala lumpur access the plane s engines might have flamed out and it s probably significant in terms of the end of power flight. what does your data show? du it give you any indication of how far they have traveled? we have no idea at this
stage. we are continuing the i have yul search, a intense visual search in the hope of picking something up because what we are dealing with with the visual search is an area of search which has been adapted consistent with the amount of oceanic drift that has been at play during the period. okay. so that s the first point. the second point is, the only thing we have got at the moment in terms of this location here is the detection of the transmissions. we have no idea at this stage what is under the water. of course, as soon as we finish the towed pinger locater work, hopefully we will get more transmissions to better refine the point on the ocean floor where the transmissions are
emanating from. once we have that, and there s probably no more hope of picking up anymore transmissions, we will put the autonomous underwater vehicle down to have a look. now, hopefully with a lot of transmissions, we ll have a tight, small area, and hopefully in a matter of days we will be able to find something on the bottom that might confirm that this is the last resting place of mh-370. i stress and i can t stress enough the families have to be considered when you report on awl of this. because they want a bit of certainty. we don t get certainty until we have a visual sighting of the wreckage. that will probably come with the work the autonomous vehicle does. the other thing about the bottom there, i m informed by experts,
that there s a lot of silt down there. that could complicate the search because the silt on the bottom of the ocean can be very thick and things disappear in to it and it makes a visual search underwater very difficult. on monday, you thought there was possibly two pingers. to you think you are dealing with two or one device at this point? well, we have the evidence. the assessment was made that we thought there might be two pingers there. this has not been confirmed in further detections that we picked up. now, whether that s because, you know one ping er has run out of battery life and there s one running, or we just haven t got close to it, i don t know. but the fact of the matter is we haven t had any further evidence of two pingers going off in the
same area or at the same time. isn t it curious that two pingers, the frequency to be 3.3 on both of them? well, i won t get in to that because basically the analysis on that i don t think has revealed anything unusual. i might ask mr. levy if he has any information on that. no. okay. do you plan to move more pinger locate canners in the area to cover more territory? no, we don t. because as i have said previously, one of the important things about this sort of search is the need for complete, completely noiseless environment. ocean shield is minimizing all of its systems and really the only thing that is operating are the two thrusters at the back of the vessel.
everything else is turned off. so that we have the best search environment possible. if you have other ships there, you would end up with a very noisy environment and you wouldn t get the sort of search that we have at the moment. i mean, we are looking at this stage for transmissions that are probably weaker than they would have been early on because the batteries of both devices are past their use by date, and they were very shortly found. i think we are very fortunate, in fact, to get some transmissions on day 33. just one person. is it possible you could release a section of the audio recording so we can hear it? we ll look at that. i don t see why not. how many detections do you
think the ocean shield needs to refine the location. you already have four detections and you say you need more detections to refine the location and second, do you have more information regarding the detection we received about the chinese ship and do you think it is a reliable one? in terms of ocean shield, the more detections we get, the better. the other thing that comes in to it is the quality of the transmission and the detection. what we are after is the best return that we can get. by triening a la triangulating data we will come up with a more sharply defined, much smaller search area underwater. bear in mind, that the time
spent on the surface cover six times more area than any given time than we will be able to do when we go under water. with the batteries likely to fade or fail very shortly, we need to get as much positional data as we can so that we can define a very small search area. bear in mind, with the air france disaster several years ago, it took them 20 days. they had a very good they thought they had a good fix and it took the underwater vehicle 20 days to get to the wreckage. yes. . [ inaudible ] is it worthwhile to send a manned submarine to have a look at what s down there? have you considered that?
well, i m not running the search. we ve got we ve got the australian maritime safety authority running and coordinating the operational search. of course the defense force providing a lot of the assets, along with many other nations. there s a lot of military assets out there at the moment. of course there is one submarine. i might just get commodore levy to comment on that particular aspect of your question. the short answer is, the utility of submarines has been evaluated and it was when we first started to commence the search. it you determined that they would not, the submarine would not be optimized for this particular search. what we do have today is royal australian aircraft p-3 aircraft deploying in the field.
that provides more sensors in the vicinity of ocean shield without having a ship there to pro-reduce the background noise. some very good work that was only started after the mh-370 aircraft was lost, very good work by the australian defense work, in particular the air force have modified the acoustic processor to pick up the 37.5 kilohertz frequency. we expect anytime now the aircraft, the first aircraft, the ocean shield will coordinate to lay a sonar buoy. it is a package parachuted out of the aircraft, floats on the surface of the ocean and will deploy a hydrophone, 1,000 feet below the surface of the ocean and it has a radio that transmits the data back to the aircraft. hp-3 is capable of carrying 30 on each mission and that will provide a range of sensors, a number of sensors, 1,000 feet
below the surface. the towed pinger locater is deeper than that. it provides a range of sensors 1,000 feet down. the other point i would make is the silt cover on the bottom as well as potentially hiding debris. now we have an analysis that shows there is silt down there. that is an absorbing material. so we are at risk of a lot of the sound energy being absorbed by the silt rather than if it was a rock seabed. a lot of that would be reflected to the surface or towards the surface. the fact there is silt there also hindered to a certain extent the sound provocation. have you analyzed the signal.
[ inaudible ] i understand there s been no further detections in the area where the chinese vessel assisted by hms echo, which is an oceanographic vessel from the royal navy. i believe they haven t made any further detections. in terms of the analysis of the signals that it picked up, i ll come back to you on that. i m not sure where we are at with that. i haven t had any advice that the analysis is complete at this stage. when you began this search and looking at the odds, the size of the ocean, the size of the search area, what do you think the chances are that you would make an announcement like this today? well, i would say very
quickly caution again what we are picking up is a great lead. we have to caution before we say this is the final resting place. there s still a ways to go. if you asked me when i arrived last sunday night, i would have been probably more pessimistic than i am now. i m now optimistic we will find the aircraft, or what is left of the aircraft in the not too distant future, but we haven t found it yet because this is a very challenging business. we re relying on transmissions that have come and gone.
i just like to have that hard evidence, a photograph evidence that there s pieces of aircraft down there to know that actually this is the final resting place of mh-370. based on this diagram, will you can see the scale on the bottom. the scale on the bottom is on the left at 01020 kilometers. you can see it is a relatively small area. again, i narrowed it down to 25 kilometers. i m confident that we have an area there which provides a promising area to exploit. note the satellite hand shake
calculation and ping seven. that s another source of evidence. so i think that we re looking in the right area. but i m not prepared to say, to confirm anything until such time as somebody lays eyes on the wreckage. are you being cautious for the families and the sake of precision, but we are looking at a case where we have frequencies, which are consistent with a black box. that s been verified by the black box. by acoustic analysis. they have been consistent, they have been sustain td and they are where the science suggests the plane is. yep. can you give a percentage, without holding you to it, 80%, 90%. i understand you have to express caution but how confident are you? i have confidence we re in the right area. but i m not going to give the
final confirmation until somebody has seen wreckage. okay. i m not prepared to go this percentage or that percentage. you said you were to wait to get more transitions from ocean shield. for how many days do you want to keep the pinger locater working? the reason we want to do that is that there s no second chances. it looks like the signals we have picked up recently have been much weaker than the original signals we picked up. the batteries are starting to fade and as a consequence the signal is becoming weaker. we need to, as we say in
australia, make hay while the sun shines. we need to get all of the data we can. by getting more data, we will be able to compress this area in to a much smaller area where we do the very difficult and challenging search with the autonomous underwater vehicle. bear in mind, we heard about the silt. the silt on the bottom will complicate that search. sometimes silt can be, you know, tens of meters thick. it s a very difficult environment. so, you know, the more effort we put in to location of where the transmission is coming from, the more certainty we will have that we will find something on the bottom of the ocean.
what are they doing in the search area? what we are doing, we are not putting all of our eggs in one basket. we are continuing with all of the activities. we are continuing to look where 01 is and we are also doing a much more intense visual search. where the track spacing f you understand that. what an aircraft does. it s assigned to an area to search and then it will design a pattern with small spacing and it will cover the area very extensively and very intensively. that s what is happening now.
that s what is happening in the wreckage in the area here would have moved with the ocean drift, the currents and waves and so on we are now searching the area where after 33 days the scientists, the analysts assess where the wreckage might be now. we hope we will ools also find something on the surface of the ocean that confirms that the aircraft basically entered the water at this location.submarin limitation in how deep they can
dive. that s a classified area. all nations they don t declare how deep their submarines can go. the environment down here is around, we said previously 4500 meters. so what we re talking about, specialists underwater, autonomous vehicles and specialists other vehicles that could be used for recovery. so this is the domain in which you use those sorts of vehicles. so from here we will be looking further downstream for other vehicles that might be able to operate in the environment, if we find, if we find obviously the aircraft. mr. houston sorry. just one at a time. you first and then you. the difference between the points on the map is about 25
meters maximum. in the class we were told it could only pick up sounds a mile away from the black box. are you reassessing of how the sounds travel underwater at this point because you are detecting things that are much further apart. again, you heard the commodore say the bottom is a silt bottom. that absorbs sound. funny things happen depending on temperature, temperature layer answer so on and so forth. the characteristics of the water, the characteristics of the ocean floor all come in to play here. the other thing is that in terms of this area the ocean shield went there on the 5th of april.
it is pulling the towed pinger locater since then. that s four or five days. it has searched that area continuously through that period of time. this is what we picked up at the moment. you ll note that the most recent detections are all down in the southern part of the area. on tuesday, the two signal were acquired. okay. it was around 1,000 matters above the seabed, 3,500 deployed. is that experts say that is consistent with what happened [ inaudible ]
it is quite possible that there s currents down there which could have disturbed the debre and also as it was falling from the surface it would have dispersed over a large area, as well. it has been said we know more about the surface of the moon than the seabed of the ocean floor. that s probably right. we don t have accurate sampling of the currents in that particular area. the indication we have that silt is on the seabed is taken from samples taken some years ago and 130 miles away from the current position. they are in a database that we can access but gives an understanding of how little topography we have of the seabed. the concept of water movements an flows down there is one we have to take in to account.
the families must take encouragement from what you have announced today. but as you said that confirmation must be visual from the autonomous sub. when is your understanding of when the sub could go down? do you have a time frame in mind, five to ten, 20 days. you mean the autonomous underwater vehicle? yes. we will send it down when we have exhaust ed the possibilities in terms of the surface search. this is a personal opinion. i don t think that time is very far away at all because i think the last signal we got was a very weak signal. if we continue to get signals, though, we will continue to search. for the simple reason that the
underwater vehicle it operates at walking pace. okay. it has a relatively narrow swath and it takes days and days and days to cover even an area like this. in fact, this area you see here would take it we d be talking in terms of weeks, not just days. so the more time we spend getting the locational data the better off we will be when we come to the underwater search. remember what i said in my brief. essentially, it takes six times longer to cover the same area with the underwater submersible as it does with towed pinger on the surface. how long will you wait from the last ping you receive, or the last signal you receive, which as you said you last
night, if you hear nothing more how many hours or days will you wait before deploying the autonomous vehicle? well with, i think those judgments have yet to be made. this is a very dynamic process. judgments are made on the basis of a lot of factors. and clearly we are not at that point yet. i can t give you any information at this time. i would imagine, though, it s not far away before we deploy something to go down and have a look. today? [ inaudible ] none of the debris we with found, thus far, has had a connection to mh-370.
but we are now in a search area, and we are working very intensely and we are hopeful, we are hopeful that we might find something that has a connection to the aircraft. so we ll just have to wait and see how that goes. if we find anything of significance, we ll obviously let the media know. have you already been over that before in a broader pattern? i think we have probably been over on a broader pattern, but we haven t done it the way we are doing it now. you may remember over the last week we have been covering areas of 220,000 kilometers, areas the size of island or one of the largest provinces in china.
we re now sending the same number of aircraft out to a search area which is much smaller. consequently we can do a much more intense, thorough search, visual search. before we were doing, if you like, an all sensor-type search, using radar and eyes, but what we are focus canned on right now is a i have yul search. visual range. i think the the range is two miles an i think that is visual search 101. we are searching 75,000 square kilometer cans. we keep going from nautical miles to kilometers.
given the debris that was previous you believe has nothing to do with mh-370. is there any chance the frequencies have nothing to do with the transmission devices you were looking for? you said they match up to the frequencies and you don t believe them to be anything natural but could they be something unrelated? we think well, we have had the analysis done. it s nothing natural. it comes from a manmade device. and it s consistent with the locater on a black box. that s why we are more confident than we were before, but we have to lay eyes on it.
one more question we are working. that s one of my roles to coordinate that. this week is very busy in perth because there s a big conference. that is true right now. we have thousands of people here at the moment. thousands of visitors. from the end of this week, we will have adequate accommodation to cater to the families and we will be keeping a very close eye on that. we are working very closely with the chinese ambassador and his staff, the malaysian high commissioner and hi staff, malaysian airlines and the west australian government, the city of perth and the city of free mantle to ensure that we can do everything possible to ensure the families are looked after and taken care of when they come to australia.
we want them to we know it s a very sad time for them. but when they come, they will be looked after. we are very know cussed on that. and i must say the west australian government, the federal government both see this as a very, very high priority. thank you very much. thank you. perhaps the most significant information we have heard in a very long time. air chief marshall angus houston saying a number of important things. he described the new confirmation of pings as a great lead. he said heed quote now optimistic we will find what s left of the aircraft in the not too distant future. he s not confirming the aircraft has been found, but they have the sounds they have now heard again are consistent with flight data recorders. he says, quote, they are stable, distinct, clear signals that have been detected. the transmission is not of
natural origin, which eliminates that it could be a whale or something natural on the seabed. they said it is a silty bottom of the ocean here in this area which has been complicating the sound, the transmission of sound. this is truly a significant evening. we are back with our panel. he didn t say they found the plane without saying it. it is as close as he will say without physical evidence. when he says i m optimistic we will find the aircraft in the not too distant future. i believe we re searching in the right area, not of natural origin, electrical equipment, equipment with an being a military man he s not going to go that final step until he has physical evidence.
this is pretty much telling us he s got it. i agree. when the families are in consideration and that s what he is considering you can t give anything other than facts. they are handling this like a professional investigation now opposed to earlier on when announcements were coming out all over the place. this guy knows what he is doing and taking control of the investigation and being considerate of the families and very well done. the fact that new pings were heard is clearly a huge, huge step forward. i you confident they were going to reacquire it. i kept that to to myself. you could see the marshall had a more relaxed demeanor than i have seen him before. that would be confidence as far as i m concerned. the interesting thing, earlier in his conversation, he indicated not only did they have the pings from the flight data recorder opposed to the cockpit voice recorder. interesting.
mary? same thing. i think that angus houston and the team there, they certainly expressed that they thought they had the pingers, they had the black box, they had the right site. it was all right there. they didn t put the crowning achievement on it. they didn t say we have the plane but i think everybody reads between the lines that they are saying that and so very important. i concur that they should use those black boxes and pingers, as long as they last. they might be in their final dying pulses, but it would simplify the length of the search because this is the first step in a long process. miles o brien, angus houston also saying the autonomous underwater vehicles will not be sent down until they have exhausted all possibilities in the search on the surface both for debris on the surface and for the pingers. houston also said that he did not anticipate that would be very far off. because of the weakening what
he believes is the weakening of the signal that they are likely to go to those autonomous underwater vehicles relatively shortly. i think as the confident dense grows that this is grows that this is the location and more returns from the pingers, you can say with certainty when you stop hearing them what happened. where s we didn t know if it you a fluke before or not. with four or five and if we get to six and seven and they get less and less you can say with certainty the batteries are died. let s get the auv in the water and get busy with that. i m flabbergasted, not a single shred of debris has been found and they are on the pingers quite evidently. i d like to know what assets in the nonpublic realm, the secret realm were used to pinpoint this location. this can t be just luck. do you believe there s more information they are not giving out? i think they have a higher level of credibility on the
information. i think they have one level deeper. they have got the experts who know this backwards basically. this is my supposition, but the experts are saying this is it but he s the last level of caution. you don t come out and do a press conference and make the sort of comments you quoted it, anderson. we will find the aircraft in the not too distant future. they know where that plane is now. david gallo, you coled the search for air france flight 447. so much has been made that it took two years to get the black box up but as you and i have talked the last several weeks a lot of time was eaten up by red tape, getting approvals to get to the site. once you are out there and have an idea where the wreckage is, i mean, when you look at the conditions under the water even with the silt, how confident are you they will be able to find the black boxes and in a relatively short order? i m confident they can find
the black boxes. i have no doubt about that. i m not saying it is easy. that s a fairly tricky topographic area, on the north side of an undersea plateau that is about two miles high off the sea floor and the north side might have canyons, gullies and all sorts of stuff. it won t be easy but can still help on a survey. last thing you want are boulder and rocks scattered around on the sea floor. if silt is covering the sea floor it may help the sonar source. if you are just joining us a significant press conference from angus houston. coming as close as possible to saying they have, with a lot of confidence very close to finding this aircraft underneath the water. they said they will not confirm anything until they have a visual on wreckage. they obviously want to continue to search for debris, as well,
on the surface of the water. none of which they have found thus far. they point out again, this is the significant part. the transmissions they have heard are not of natural origin. they are consistent with they are from man made objects and consistent with the flight data recorders. a lot more to talk about. we ll be right back. aflac. aflac, aflac, aflac! [ both sigh ] ugh! you told me he was good, dude. yeah he stinks at golf. but he was great at getting my claim paid fast. how fast? mine got paid in 4 days. wow. that s awesome. is that legal? big fat no. [ male announcer ] find out how fast aflac can pay you at aflac.com. [ male announcer ] find out how fast aflac can pay you
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one phillips colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three types of good bacteria. i should probably take this. live the regular life. phillips . good evening, everyone. major development in the flight 370 investigation. today i can report further encouraging information regarding the search for missing flight mh-370. on monday, ied a vied the towed pinger locater deployed by the ocean shield had detected signals consistent with those emitted by aircraft black boxes on two separate occasions.
i can now tell you that ocean shield has been able to reacquire the signals on two more occasions. late yesterday afternoon and late last night perth time. confirming based on their analysis that those are not of natural origin, the sounds are not of natural origin. they are consistent with a flight data recorder. a great lead angus houston has called it. he said he is optimistic we will find what is left of the aircraft in the not too distant fuchlt saying a week ago he was not that optimistic but now he is saying this is a great lead. i believe we have searching in the right area, he went on to say a short time ago. i want to bring back our panel. david gallo, angus houston is saying now it s just probably not far off before they actually deploy the autonomous underwater vehicle to go down once they
have exhausted the possibilities of finding more sound on the surface of the water. how will that work? what is that process? can you tell us? well, they are going to have to well, you have to retrieve the ppl on the end of the cable and then launch and recover using a crane. a torpedo-shaped object and means setting up a navigational grid on the bottom but a you can t use gps. the rhythm of the ship will change to the op-sec to allow them to launch and recover the vehicle. so a totally different ball game for the vessel. how does the autonomous vehicle work? is it like mowing the lawn, it just goes along a grid back and forth? yeah. they will tell it what grid they want it to run and then they will launch it off. it will go to the bottom and take an hour or two to get down to the bottom and then it will start to move along its path. every time it runs from north to south, the next time it comes
back, it will move over 100 yards or something like that and come back on the next track. like cutting the grass, you want to overlap every path so you don t miss any spots. is it sending imagery back in realtime? sadly, no. that s world of sonar discover what sort of data is it? it is images? is it sonar? what is it? it is images made with sound and like an ultrasound looking at a baby s ultrasound. it is made with sound on the sea floor. anything on or above the sea floor that contrasts with the background will show up on that. a lot of this will depend not just on the technology but on
the operators of the system. if you have a very good sonar operator they will be able to pick out something natural against something man made against natural background, like this is a plane against a land slope. they talked in the press conference about the silt on the sea floor kauing a problem in terms of the transmission of problem. would this cause problem in terms of getting sonar images. nothing sonar discovergraph. any kind of coding, volcanic rock is tough, reflectings sound easily. it is cy to get lost in the rubble. a little sediment would be good. i don t think it will affect the sound much at all. everyone stay with us. we want the take another break. we will return at the top of the
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later. are you worried about the russians hacking us? no, i m not worried at all. russian espionage on the streets of new york city. i take the post of the people in street justice. and even find a little love. you re getting married? why question it. when you fall in love, what you do? you run. justice starts now i will speak with press secretary spicer. first, my opening statement. politics get get in the way a lot. sometimes, even in the way of dying kids. i wanted to start tonight with all the enthusiasm of the first
children s foundation. permit a few differences. eric trump was not penniless or in debt when he started the eric trump foundation. he did not start that foundation to make money, and he certainly did not become rich because of it. here is what his own wife told me in florida. he started the eric trump foundation to help kids with cancer. in fact, he such a humble guy, i didn t i didn t even know about it. he started at the year before we met and it was almost like he didn t want to toot his own horn to say look what i did. on the show, i remember him saying that 100% of the proceeds go to the kids. it s very important to eric. this is something he has always worked so hard for. he works his hardest at the eric trump foundation, and i have seen him negotiate pennies off
accomplishments like the intensive care unit at st. jude s opened in february 2015 before his dad was ever a candidate for anything. all the monies raised, almost 100%, given to the charity for the foundation. millions, almost 20 million operated with one employee. eric shouldering operating costs himself. so this past christmas eve, those children not dreaming of toys or sugarplum fairies, but the ones praying there next chemo or lead transfusion wouldn t hurt so much. some even praying that death wouldn t visit their rooms that night, hoping maybe, just maybe, an angel would come with a gift. not a gift of toys, but the gift
of life all because of a young man named eric. they lost that night. yes, it was the unluckiest of them all who suffered that night because a young man who did nothing but good for all the right reasons could not continue to do good, because evil was assumed to be the norm as scrooge and the ghost of the clintons past visited the eric trump foundation and the children who benefited. that is my (tell me what you think of my facebook page or twitter. hashtag judge janine. joining me me now by phone, president-elect trump son, and executive director of the trump organization and founder of the eric trump foundation, eric trump aired this is his first television interview since
expense ratio for charities in the world. we are so fortunate. it s one of the great benefits or perks of having a great organization with great assets that you can use practically for free. we raised so much money for st. jude s. the second someone is elected into public office, you re you re no longer given the benefit of the doubt. no matter how good your track record was or how much great you ve done, you re no longer given the elephant of the doubt and sadly, at the the end of the day, the only people who lose as you said so wellin your opening, the only people who lose are some of the sickest kids in the world and those are the kids at saint jude. jeanine: the new york times originally question how much you gave and said there wasn t any evidence to support it and just yesterday, apparently they seem to indicate that clearly you had given well over $16 million.
was there any satisfaction from that. i thought it was very nice that they came around and actually admitted how much they donated to the hospital and they said very nice things which was very vindicating. i think there are some people who have said nasty things over the years and that s the political world that we as a family now live in. it s the reality. there will be people who go out and make statements to sensationalize whatever they can and sell newspapers and we will deal with that for the next four or eight years. jeanine: but you know, eric, that must frustrate you because you re not in office, you re not, you re not in the government. we haven t seen you pretty much of since the election because you and your brother that we saw so often are now back in the business. your father is getting ready to run the business of the country, and he has been, actually, since he was elected. does this frustrate you?
yes it s frustrating and it s a narrative they will try to keep up for the next four or eight years and it will be a narrative of harassment. sadly again, it s too long. it s millions and millions of dollars going to the best pediatric research hospital anywhere in the world and that s sad. that is the game that gets played with politics. even if you said there is something to do with the administration, it will be the quagmire that we as a family live in for a long period of time. did you expect it would be this difficult, eric? it s been amazing. when i see my father save jobs all over the place, when you see what happened with ford. jeanine: but for you personally eric. i think we all knew when he
jeanine: america is were ready to welcome a new president in less than two weeks, but not everybody s onboard. in fact, some, some people on the left are doing their best to subvert democracy and the american way by encouraging people to not even give the incoming president a chance to lead. the chance that he earned, fair and square, back in november. here is left-wing movie director michael moore right after the election talking about what he and his followers are going to be doing in the days up to and beyond the inauguration while donald trump is working tirelessly to fix the country. we are going to resist, we were going to oppose pratt this will be a massive resistance. there is already, women are calling for 1 million women march. jeanine: okay so it s indicative of a movement on the left to delegitimize the new president. joining me now to talk about that and more is white house press secretary sean slicer. jeanine: it was really an emotional piece.
his foundation that he is forced to separate himself from from because nothing that he has done, he s not even in the government, but because of the behavior, i believe the clintons and all of the attacks on that foundation that i believe were legitimate, but now we have people saying, let s stop president trump before he even gets there. the man hasn t stopped working. how are you going to convince these people that donald trump was elected fair and square and let s give the man a chance. there s a couple things, judge. first, it is sad that eric trump worked so hard for st. jude s because the only people who lose are those children are the children of st. jude. it is sad because the losers are the people they worked so hard
to help. getting to your question, look, on november 8, donald trump 130 straight trump 130 states. nine of 13 battleground states, over 2600 counties and flipped counties that barack obama carried in 2012. i m not sure how much more resounding of a win win you can get. the movement that he led spoke loud and clearly on election day more portly, to your point, since he took that stage at 2:50 am and talked about uniting all americans, he has worked tirelessly, not only to put together probably the most amazing cabinet ever seen, but to get results whether it s carrier or sprint and talking about thousands of jobs that he is personally working to bring back to this country, or saving the american taxpayers millions and billions of dollars through his work to lower the cost of on of air force one.
a guy who is still 13 days from office still has a track record as president elect that most would like to have as president. jeanine: but sean, the positive that the president-elect can talk about are clear. i think that most people are blown away by the fact that the man is even working 247, but more importantly, it s not just democrat or progressive or left, it s almost anarchist or communist, revolutionary communists taking out ads thing we ve got to stop this man. is there concern for the inauguration? they re talking about protest, do whatever they can to stop donald trump. look, i think more more of these individuals are finding themselves in the minority. there will be a historic record of people because the movement
that donald trump has led is a movement of change, a movement that finally taps into the frustration that so many american workers are finally saying thank you for in understanding what i ve been saying for so long and been so forgotten. i think that inauguration is going to be a historic one in that it won t just be an amazing day, but it will be the beginning of an amazing eight years for donald trump. at some point the facts will become overwhelming because the number of successes he has both domestically and internationally. at some point, you have to say wow, he has saved the job of a friend or family member. he has lifted up the wages, my healthcare has gone down and i can see the doctor i talked about. i have more educational choices. the inner cities are better. the roads and bridges and infrastructure are getting repaired the way they should of. jeanine: democrats, right now, are being so obstructionist that they re saying we ve got all of these ethical hurdles, before we
even get to the confirmation hearing spread i ve never heard of these ethical procedures or hurdles that they have to overcome first. have you? no, you didn t didn t hear about him in 2008 when she chuck schumer voted 42 times to look the other way on democrats that will weren t seeking appointment in the obama administration. you didn t see them when the republicans voted seven of those nominees their confirmation votes on day one and five more the next time and 13 by voice well. republicans acted professionally and responsibly in 2008 and recognize that the president has an opportunity to have the people that are qualified to be in the cabinet. donald trump, as president elect has selected the most qualified cabinet in modern history, if not ever. i think they re getting split by schumer because he s trying to play a political game, but most
democrats recognize that the movement wasn t just about republicans but it was about democrats and independents and many of their own constituents. you take a state like missouri where president electra carried it by 19 points but i don t think claire mccaskill is going to want to vote against that kind of overwhelming message when it comes to confirmation pics. not only are they qualified but she has to recognize that she has the answer to her constituents if she doesn t understand the change they voted for in missouri and other states around the country. jeanine: donald trump has an opportunity to continue to change the landscape of those elections going forward. sean, thanks so much for being with us. thank you. jeanine: i m joined by someone calling for protest against president-elect trump. this is a debate you are not going to want to miss. then the congressman is here to talk about the incoming administration as well as his home state of california and their curious move involving attorney general eric holder. are you worried about the
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countdown to inauguration day is still on, but some still refuse to accept the reality. my next guest is one of many attempting to delegitimize trump s presidency before it even begins. at the national spokesperson for the communist party in the united states. he joined me now. carl thanks for being on tonight. i was fascinated like many, with the ad in the new york times that said something like know in the name of humanity, we refuse to accept a fascist america. i m not wondering the read the whole thing but it pretty much says we have to stop the trump pens regime before it starts. we don t have a lot of time so i asked some direct questions. call, how are you going to stop the trump hands regime.
he was elected fair and square. the electoral college has been certified. were getting ready to roll. what are you going to do to stop them. look, no election, fair or foul should legitimize a fascist regime, and that is what the trump pants regime is. donald trump campaigned as a fascist, he has assembled a team to carry out that fascist agenda, we ve seen this before. the demon nation. he spent the christmas holidays, a time that supposed to be peace on earth and will toward men talked tweeting about a new nuclear arms race. this is what he campaigned on, this is . jeanine: what about, you want to talk about delegitimizing. i have to be honest, donald trump is something i believe in. let me just say this. aren t you delegitimizing the election in the constitution because you don t like the guy. i don t like the guy, but what i don t like like is the agenda he campaigned on.
jeanine: but he won. host: but that s what millions and millions of people don t like and they are right not to like it. we have seen this before. hitler came to power through legitimate means. jeanine: you re not comparing donald trump to hitler are you. right, he s different than hitler. he doesn t have that little black mustache, he has the orange squirrel on his head, but he has the agenda of a hitler. jeanine: carl we have to talk about the fascist quality of this regime. jeanine: why don t they have anxiety and fear before donald trump and he hasn t done anything. where is the ink anxiety and fear. it s based upon what he campaigned on. muslim registry. people who burn the flag should have citizenship taken away.
this is illegitimate, and it also will be a form of rule that suppresses the civil liberty to fight against these. people have a right to be fearful and that is why we took out this ad and why we are calling on people. refuse fascism.org is calling on people to take to the streets, to display and manifest their refusal to accept jeanine: let s assume they do. what if people come into the streets and do what. come to the streets in washington d.c. where i will be and everywhere else and do everything to show their refusal to accept this regime. nonviolent civil disobedience. protesting in other ways. candlelight vigils. however people want to do it but business as usual in this society has got to be stopped to prevent the trump pence regime.
jeanine: are you an anarchist or a communist. it s real clear. i told you i was a communist and i will come and talk too about communism. bring me on another show. jeanine: okay, alright. i wish we had more time. i will bring you on again. tonight i want to talk about stomping this fascist regime. jeanine: i m worried about how far you re willing to go. refuse fascism.org. jeanine: thank you. darrell darrell issa still ahead my friend is getting engaged today. that s so sweet. why would anyone get married but i want to serve justice on russian hacking. at judge justice like you ve never seen.
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jackie vonya senior. a deadly explosion a row along the syrian turkish border claims nearly 50 lives injuring 100 others. there has been no claim of responsibility but local leaders are joining isis for the blast at this point it is a fuel truck parked in front of the busy area was rigged to explode. the town opposition buyers to move between syria and turkey. meeting in easter muzzle to discuss progress in taking the second-largest city from isis. the army defensive is in his 12th week in gaining momentum. iraqi forces are getting back to u.s. led coalition s iraqi forces cleared of several neighborhoods in eastern mosul over the past week. isis has held mosul from within two years. i am jackie yvonne yes and now back justice with judge jeanine. jeanine: as busy as we close in
on just 12 days until the inauguration of our 45th president. joining me now is my political panel are old friends chairman republican strategist david allen and making his debut tonight democratic strategist and former consultant to the department of homeland security. thanks for joining us a gentleman. i want to start with the russian hacking issue and i will start with you david on the issue of whether or not their russian hacking issue is one that has given president-elect donald trump s decision to say you know there was some russian influence over the hacking. did he make a turnaround on this and was it enough? judge, america and did need vladimir putin to know that hillary clinton was corrupt and lying and believed she was above the law.
it didn t ultimately impact the election just as in 1960 nikita khrushchev believed he influenced the election when he held you too pilots against his power and wouldn t release him. he believed that hurt nixon. he didn t hurt nixon s chances of getting elected and putin didn t hurt quentin s chances of getting elected. it s a lot about nothing. jeanine: hasn t everybody been spying on everybody for decades? isn t this what looks to read about all of a sudden we are so shocked? judge, you are right. we been spying on them and they been spying on us and this is done all the time but to actually weapon eyes the information, to put it out there to change the election results, to actually create fake news to hack into the system. jeanine: i have to stop you. there is nothing in those
e-mails that was never contested c it s not just the e-mails that they put out. actually have russian tv which is television it networks that claimed the united states created neck a chamber to put fakeness information as well as e-mails. election staff. they talked about that the elections are rigged. they kept on putting information out there. that is a documented fact from both the fbi, the nsa and the cia who put out a detailed report. judge, let me jump in here second. jeanine: there s no discussion of any election machines or any numbers being impacted. c absolutely. a bigger impact here for want to talk about how a hack impacted the election although the opm records that got taken
by some foreign government is now hundreds of thousands of government employees now have all of their records out there. we had a series of breaches of government servers that release personal data on people. the if it came to a point where americans to just started questioning was their personal safety secured and did this administration do enough and ultimately they decided no. they decided their economic security in their personal security were being taken care by this administration and that s why they said it s time to go in a different direction. look a bit at some point we are going to have to start putting our country head of our party. someone hacking into e-mails and releasing information, someone coming into our country to undermine our elections? we have crossed the line. had hillary clinton not have a server.
president-elect donald trump, i will even say he s got a chance but the fact that the russians came in packs into our system and try to undermine elections, he s got to admit to that and you have to admit that and we have got to go on and start making them pay a price for that. jeanine: mustafa, didn t hillary clinton choose putin accuse putin of doing something like that and i hear he was giving even with her. david from are you familiar with that? vaguely. jeanine: go ahead. judge, look putin basically had a vendetta against her because she tried to expose him. she went to the u.n. and made a speech exposing the fact that he was rigging the election so she did her job as secretary of state showing the fact that putin was doing all sorts of underhanded things in terms of breaking their elections. he took it personal offense to
it. he then came into the united states to undermine our elections not only to spy on us but to basically create a news channel in our country to use social media. c what voting machines at rates that impacted the results? what voting machine got rates that truly jeanine: thank you for being with us. street justice still ahead and congressman darryl issa, next. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? yes, yes! live whole. not part. aleve. that newly listed ranch and wait will be gone.ed for a mortgage, or, you could push that button. sfx: rocket launching. skip the bank. get approved in minutes. lift the burden of getting a home loan with rocket mortgage by quicken loans. (whisper) rocket
joining me to talk about that a more republican congressmen darryl issa senior member of the house foreign affairs committee. do they even know what they are hiring him to fight with trump about? no, they really don t judge. i can t believe i said that. long long story and i will tell you later but judge cometh one of those amazing things. they are hiring him for the same reason when i became chairman of the oversight committee they increase their staff at the white house in a way of lawyers even before i had asked for the first piece of information. for whatever reason the left-leaning, far left legislature in california wants to fight this administration on anything and everything so they can keep doing what they are doing. jeanine: is in california broke? they are certainly upside down. they have the highest income tax the nation, 13.3%, 8.5 plus%
sales tax and they have a budget deficit and businesses are leaving california. one of the greatest states to work and live in except for the government we have. jeanine: you question whether eric holder should even be practicing law, congressman. well it s the only constitutional officer ever held in contempt by congress. he lied to congress and in fact withheld information. we haven t missed him since he left because in fact he was somebody that had no respect for the law they were sworn to defend. jeanine: this retainer into law firm firm that he is in washington d.c. do we have any idea how big it is? well i suspect it s in the seven figures. jeanine: seven s. in millions? in the millions. air colder doesn t come cheap. he is quite a name and he s a rainmaker there but again this is somebody who lying to
congress should have lost his bar license. jeanine: interesting that he didn t. let s move onto donald trump and what he s done even before the white house. the latest this week s ford and we heard about carrier a few weeks ago and now ford. you have got mark fields mark fields was talking about the ford plant in what they are doing. i had dinner with mark fields in las vegas at the consumer electronics electronic show just last night. he s excited about a better business climate one in which ford can make investments in the united states and have them pay off and that s a result of this election. you are going to see other companies do that as you say even before president trump is sworn in the part of that is the same reason the stock market has gone up more than 1000 points. they are things you do in anticipation of a good market in their things you do it in anticipation of a government that s not going to be friendly.
right now the stock market and ford motor company are gearing up for a better economy one in which we have lower taxes, lower government spending and a pro-business environment that creates jobs in america. jeanine: there would be no subsidies or anything offered? this was a good business decision made by one of the great industrial companies of the world. jeanine: people in michigan even if they didn t vote for him i guess they would benefit, those union s? the rank-and-file workers at or motor company a great many of them voted for donald trump even though the union was saying not to. tonight i think they are very happy that they did. jeanine: congressman i think we are going to see a lot more americans happy with donald trump. anyway congressman darryl issa even though you didn t get my name right, thanks for being with us tonight. thank you, judge. jeanine: the first justice of 2017 straight ahead.
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jeanine: it s finally time for the first street justice of 2017 that i wanted to find out what people thought about those russian hacking hearings in washington and whether anyone really c when i stumble upon them at the construction site i found true love. take a look. i very much doubt it. or the russians hacking us? i can t hear. you think the redskins are hacking? are the russians hacking us? do we care? not really. what s the deal? is putin hacking us? i believe he is. do you think that we hack him too? no. really? don t you watch the movie s?
you are pretty lady. don t foreign countries spy on each other over time? i don t know. do you watch the movie s? are you worried about anything? no, i m not. are you on your break? do you want me to leave? are the russians hacking us? i don t know. do you care? not really. why is congress having hearings on the? they want to distract the public i guess. what are you focused on? money. do you remember the hunt for red october? do remember sean connery do you think we do that kind of thing? no. no, of course not so why is congress having a hearing about hacking? democrats are not happy about trump and they have to do whatever they can. are you worried about the russians hacking us? i m not worried at all.
all of a sudden russia is a big enemy of the united states of america. what s the problem? the reason is the democrats lost and they are trying to come up with a reason. that s so sweet. why would anyone get married? are you married? 16 lovely years. i had 16 lovely years too. you were getting married? why? why? are you getting married? do you know someone is getting engaged to your? today? they are putting a sign up. they just told me. i m not lying. you are getting married. why? you fall in love you brian. i m only kidding. what is the banners they? what is she going to say? i hope she says yes.
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down an american movie, censor an american picture it doesn t like, wrong in not calling him first before buckling before a north korean dictator. this is obama laying it on the line in a press conference that signalled all the audacity he s packed into a week since the november election, the deal on climate change, the protective order for people who came here illegally, and including the post of an american ambassador with the communist government in cube a taking questions from all women reporters in today s press conference, where will this obama audacity take us? i m joined by david corn, and by actor, writer and director sean penn who joins me now by phone. first of all, here s the president speaking about sony s decision to pull the interview, the movie that inspired the hacking. let s watch. sony is a corporation.
i would agree with the president. i think that, you know, i m not speaking as an advocate for the motion picture industry or as a critic. but we have to realize this is a genuine emergency, this is the popularization of cyber war and it requires an alternate threshold on the thinking and the language that we use. when representatives of sony deny that they pulled the film and put it on distributors, that it s not really recognizing the same responsibility a parent has to drive the show when something threatens their child. in this case, it doesn t matter whether it s an individual, a government, or a company, the response of sony should have been to say, we ll make our apologies later and we ll put it online open and free for the world to see. so i would say it s a cop-out
popularized taking a weapon and shooting at civilians on the street. it shows the possibilities. once those possibilities go out into the culture, just like guns, we ve got a computer in every household, and this is not technology. this is far from the hands of anyone. let me go over to david corn. your view on this as a guy who writes all the time. it does seem to be an easy call. as sean penn just said, they could have gone other routes besides the regal theater chain. we re going to put it on a network. they could have put it out themselves on a website. they could have said we take these threats seriously to the theaters. if they feel they can t have security, we ll do it another way. at the end of the day, unless they put it out they still can put it out. they can put it out for free. or set up their own website and anyone who wants to see it pays ten bucks and that s it. if they don t do that, at some point, probably some point soon,
it just sends the message, that this works. i ve heard some conservatives today criticize the president for saying what he did too late, after sony already did what it s done. and the question, though, is, is this going to set a precedent or not? that s why i think it s right for the president and for the others to say, we don t agree and try to give them some more spine, give them some support, back them up a bit. and so sony still has a chance to make this right. but they re engaged now in what looks to be and sean penn, i want to bring you in. sony is engaged with a dialogue in the north koreans. they thanked them today by saying, thank you for doing what we told you to do. if you keep doing that, don t show this picture, then we won t cause you any more trouble, we won t release any more of the information from the hacking.
it seems like they re almost in league now because they re being thanked for it, and told, if you re a good boy, we won t bother you anymore. it s an engagement of relations now, it seems. yeah, i think that sony has made themselves almost irrelevant in what s going to be a much, much bigger and more dangerous story. they might have been the trigger that participated in what was a mistake here. but, again, i think that if we don t take this on, on a united nations level, if it if we aren t waking up and recognizing that what happens once, and recognize that we just got hit by a truck and we can t tell ourselves that we have a mild headache and we can go home and go to bed, because you re going to wake up with blood in the brain. that s where we are on this cyber war issue. the declaration has been set.
it s not even it s not sony. it s not even north korea. north korea is the size of mississippi. that can be handled by the mean spirited in a day. and it s also that which gets into the minds of a culture with a lot of disease in it. is there any way the creative community, the directors, writers, the actors, are able to leverage this? i mean, it s always dangerous in a tricky career to make demands be on, pay me and put me to work. but is there any way actors or writers could say, you re going to green light this movie, okay, when you green light it, it stays green and no dictator is going to stop it? do you think there s any chance, or is that too far a hope, that the creative communities will say, i m not making movies to be stopped by the bad guys? i think there will be discussions and there will be attempts to put lobbies together on that basis. but i think that the very first
thing that those in hollywood or wisconsin can do is stand up as a country and stand up as a united country that this be taken in a serious way. well the me show you more of the president today. i thought it was a first-rate press conference. clarity, and good guys, bad guys, it wasn t the soft line he sometimes has taken before. here talking about north korea and the sony hacking. let s watch again the president today. i think it says something interesting about north korea that they decided to have the state mount an all-out assault on a movie studio because of a satirical movie starring seth rogen and james flacco. i love seth, and i love james. but the notion that that was a
threat to them, i think gives you some sense of the kind of regime we re talking about here. they caused a lot of damage. and we will respond. we will respond proportionally and in a place and time and manner that we choose. i wonder, when you make a movie, you ve made some really important films, and i was thinking, part of the decision to make a movie is that you want the bad guy to hear it. it isn t just a joke by seth rogen, a satire movie, but it wouldn t bother you a bit to know that the people being satirized hear it and it hurts them and humiliates them. what did you make of the president saying, it s a seth rogen movie, it s a bit over the top to begin with, that it would scare them? well, you know, i go back to, i think it was 1997 when martin
scorsese s film came out on tibbett and the chinese were in negotiations with disney, who backed down tremendously on the release of that film as a result. and whether or not it s the president framing it as a marginalized threat based on the movie, it really goes deeper than all of that to me. i think that when eisner was interviewed and said disney was not in the human rights business, they were in the entertainment business, that he really missed the mark. we are all in the human rights business today, whether in our economy, or in our homes. and i do think that sony does have an opportunity now to do something heroic, but more importantly, i think that moscow and beijing and washington have something to do that s very important. because this is something that threatens all governments, all
corporations. it calls into question, you know, where we divide our capitalism and our recognition of human rights, and i think it s a really, really big historic moment. and if it s not taken by the reins by some brave people, we ll be heading into a world that we never imagined. sean, thank you for coming on and for the great work you ve done, all the greatest performances, dead man walking, every one seemed like it dealt with an important issue and you were on the right side. thank you very much and thank you to david corn. coming up, president obama in his press conference, it was kind of a press conference, not the idiotic swagger of w. it was real, it was human. this is a changed president, a confident president. you can see it in the way he s talking and acting. if you watched it today, you may have noticed that the president
made some history today. he called only on women reporters. didn t mention it. i noticed it halfway through. somebody called it to my attention when we were covering it live. more on that decision in a minute. and this is hardball, the place for politics. my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. look here, daddy, i m never coming back.
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self-confident forward-leaning president. and in today s final press conference of the year that he hopes will capture the year, he commanded the room, ticking off his accomplishments. here he is. all told, over a 57-month streak, our businesses have created nearly 11 million new jobs. america s now the number one producer of oil, the number one producer of natural gas. our rescue of the auto industry is officially over. we ve now repaid taxpayers every dime and more of what my administration committed. we ve created about half a million new jobs in the auto industry alone. about ten million americans have gained health insurance just this past year. we re leading the coalition to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. and in less than two weeks, after more than 13 years, our combat mission in afghanistan will be over. there he is talking about his successes. joining me now, washington
bureau chief for usa today. and from national urban radio. we ll have you on to talk about your book, april, if you d like. april, you were there today, and i want to know what the reaction was from your male colleagues to the fact that not one i could be a male and say, why did you invite us if you weren t going to let us involve ourselves in the q & a process, mr. president? your thoughts and feelings. you know for one thing for sure, in this town, it s a white, male dominated town. i know for a fact. i just walked out of the white house and the press area. many of our male colleagues have been going into the press secretary very upset that they were not called on today. but let me say this to you. as a woman, as someone who s been covering the white house, it s nice. and someone who sits in the third row, not the first row or the second row, but the third row, it s nice to see a change of pace.
and from some of the white house sources that i talked to tonight, apparently there was a plan not to go this is not the first time, but not to go to the networks. this is not the first time that this has happened. they said, okay, since we see we ve got a lot of women in the audience who are really good at what they do, let s call on the women. so he didn t call on you. yes he did call on me. you demanded chris, i raised my hand like a reporter s supposed to. why don t they have the old tradition of reporters waving their hands and the reporters get the attention of the president. i raised my hand. that started during the bush years, like a good reporter is supposed to. who else raised their hand besides you? i don t know. i didn t see behind me. anyway, good for you. and how would you describe the men s attitude?
we were they whining or bitchy, the fact that they didn t get called on? let me tell you something, the cameras on the front row, they ll keep cool. but behind the scenes, they re not happy. phone calls are being made. but they ll be cool. you ll always see a cool demeanor, but they are not happy with it. what do you think of that, susan? i didn t even notice for the first six or seven, then somebody pointed it out and said, it s all women. and he s going to keep this up. and he went to the end and i think clearly they had a plan to do this. what s the point? a little mischief. why not? what s the purpose of this thing? what was the quality of the questions? i have to tell you sounded pretty good to me. i have to tell you, i didn t notice anything was going on. in fact, i wouldn t have noticed they were all women. so that s a great thing. let s talk about the president today. april, you cover him all the time, and susan.
there s something different about the president. i wouldn t call it swagger, because i hate it. some presidents being like w. swagger sitting down, i don t know how they do it, but they do. the french word i like is alon, a quiet self-confidence in the president. he didn t have before this election. something liberated this guy. i don t know if it was liberation, but i think it was more so what he had to present to america, an optimism. because they got a shellacking in november. and he had to come out, everything is changing, i m optimistic, we are americans, we can fix problems. that s what he said to the end, we can fix things as americans. so i think he wanted to come out with an optimistic tone, looking forward to the positive. and one thing that i took away was when he said with the democrats and the republicans, the fight, he said, yeah, there are fighting, but there are things that we also agree on. so he s looking to the positive in 2015 in closing out 2014.
how did you react to him talking about the quality in fact, let s watch him respond to you. okay. i actually think it s been a healthy conversation that we ve had. these are not new phenomenon. the fact that they re now surfacing, in part because people are able to film what have just been in the past stories passed on around a kitchen table, allows people to, you know, make their own assessments and eflgdss and you re not going to solve a problem if it s not being talked about. did you buy the fact that people and race relations? i saw his optimism and his hope. you have to remember, when you talk about race in this country, the president did get it right. this is centuries old.
centuries. and it stems from slavery. went to jim crow and it s moved on. it s not just a legislative issue. it s a heart issue as well. i do think people want to see a better day, but are there still vestiges and residue of the past? oh, yes. as a reporter, i did like the fact that he did kind of change his answer. because i asked him six years ago this month, in the oval office about the state of black america, and he harkens to charles dickens talk about the the best of times and the worst of times, yeah. yeah. for african americans who have a good education, it s a good time. but for those who don t, it s unemployment and lack of opportunity. when he talked about black america, as well as all america is better in the aggregate since
his administration, it was interesting to hear that versus six years ago this month in the oval office from my interview that i had with him. thanks so much. you know, one thing that struck me about his answer was how much different just cell phone technology makes. that picture, the video of eric garner makes all the difference in settling the he said/he said debate. it makes all the difference for people who might have denied what had happened there. there was no denying it. i don t know anybody that thought that was a proper decision. sometimes you have to have a trial before a jury before a thank you. i raised my hand, chris. by the way, i love the weather today. did you like the weather today? it was okay. see, you have to disagree with me. [ laughter ] i proved it now. every time i say something, this reporter has to find a different conclusion. anyway, it s style. thank you very much. coming up, a new biography
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worked for president kennedy in the white house. they had a great time. people loved politics. it was a positive thing. and that s been missing. yeah, i mean, i think it s like anything else. if, you know, the trick is catching people s attention. and the only thing that people see are a bunch of men fighting on television all the time, or negative commercials on television, or acerbic editorials, they ll turn their attention somewhere else. we wanted to bring some fun, some levity, but be serious-minded at the same time. christopher anderson joins us now. he s out with a masterful biography called the good son. thank you for joining us. i ask that question, what did we miss about the upbringing of john kennedy jr? first of all, i have to say, you look much better today than you did back then.
[ laughter ] and i love all your books as well. look, what we didn t get right about jfk jr is that he was more bouvier than kennedy. that was a wonderful interview. you mentioned alon and president obama and a transformation that s taken place here and that is a quality that both jfk jr and his father had in spades, but i think more so in the case of jfk jr, because he was really a natural politician in many ways. his dad was a little reluctant with the kissing-babies thing. but john could connect with people. he was self-efacing and incredibly articulate. if you look at the pictures in the relationship with his mother, and the reason i wrote this book, that was a phenomenal relationship he had with jackie. they were each other s protector from the very beginning. did he ever think of becoming a european movie star?
he looks like a european movie star. he looks french. there s the bouvier. you see pictures of his grandfather on his mother s side. he looks like that side of the family. he did want to act, as you may recall, and jackie pulled him back from the brink. she did say one of the most wonderful thing was seeing him act and she did on many occasions when he was at brown university and afterwards, but she thought there were great things ahead for him. her whole attitude was hands-on. she said if you bungled raising your children, nothing else in life matters. so she kept him away from people are going to go out and buy this book right now. it looks like candy for christmas. especially for those of us who grew up with the kennedys. the pictures in this book are enough. let me ask you about his possible running for politics. i talked to kennedy jr and said his numbers were very good. my question, john f kennedy jr,
did he get polling done and see if he could beat hillary clinton? indeed there was a private poll, taken just before his tragic crash, his death. and he, by all accounts, his close friends said he intended to seek the seat of daniel patrick moynihan. he had gone to the new york chairwoman of the democratic party. he was intent on beginning his political career. ed koch told me, even if she tried, she couldn t have got that seat from kennedy. i think he was right. let s talk about the horrible ending. i read along the line that jacqueline kennedy was concerned about her beautiful son s interest in aviation and wanting to be a pilot someday. absolutely. and it s so unbelievable. it s a premonition from hell, but go ahead. she shared that with maurice templeton, the last significant relationship she had in her life.
look at the kennedy track record. uncle joe died in a plane crash. his aunt kathleen teddy was almost killed. alexander o nasis, the son of john s stepfather was killed in a plane crash. so there s a long and terrifying list. that was the one thing that she worried about. it was only after that she passed away that he went ahead with his plans to get his license. and we see the tragic consequences. great book. the book is called the good son, about the attractive son of kennedy. you have a great son-in-law running a good part of this network. thank you, he s a great guy. sure is. up next, the big fight on the right between rand paul and marco rubio s regarding president obama s historic shift of policy on cuba. plus stephen colbert says farewell. what a show it was last night.
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here s what s happening. president obama and the first family have left washington and are heading to hawaii for the holidays. nobody public events are scheduled for the duration of his trip. it won t be a white christmas for most of the east coast, but it will be a wet one. a storm system is expected to bring rain from florida to maine along with high winds. the midwest will see snow and ice. and health officials say the flu is widespread in 29 states. the strain in most cases is not covered by this year s shot. back to hardball. at a minimum, i would say this, barack obama is the worst negotiator that we ve had as president since at least jimmy carter and maybe in the modern history of this country. i intend to use every tool at our disposal in the majority to unravel as many of these changes as possible.
this is all one-sided. that s what happens when you send a speech writer to negotiate a deal with a dictator. i think it sends an awful awful that the u.s. under this president is no longer a reliable ally in the feet for freedom and democracy. you saw marco rubio, jockeying for position in a crowded republican field of possibilities, launching an assault on president obama s deal to restore relations with cuba. he has a fight on his hands with senator rand paul of sdk and things are getting personal. rand paul bucked rubio by declaring his support for president obama s goal to end the cuban embargo. i mean, if the goal was regime change, it sure doesn t seem to be working. and probably it punishes the people more than the regime, because the regime can blame the embargo for hardship.
if there s open trade, i think the people will see what it s like to all of the things that we produce under capitalism. so in the end, i think probably opening up cuba is a good idea. here s rubio with his lesser abilities going back at paul on fox last night. like many people that have been opining, he has no idea what he s talking about. the embargo is not what s hurting the cuban people. it s the lack of freedom, and the lack of competent leaders. today, the senator unloaded on rubio, saying, i m a proponent of peace through commerce. i believe engaging cuba can lead to positive change. seems that rubio is acting like an isolationist who wants to retreat to our borders and build a moat. i reject this isolationism. it s a shot here against rubio. he was 7 years old during camp david when jimmy carter, the guy he said wasn t a good negotiator, brought together israel with his major strategic
enemy, egypt, and forced a permanent peace treaty between the two of them. match that, marco. just do something like that in your lifetime. let s talk about this interesting fight on the right. we grew up with the idea, we all did, that the republican party was the hawkish party, anti-communist, anti-everything, anti-everybody, let s go to war. and now you see an interesting intra-mural battle where you see rubio carrying the traditional baggage of the hawks. but then you see rand paul, who s got to be the most spontaneous, and i have to say scrambling arguer i ve ever seen. he doesn t say in the pocket. he s scrambling like rg3. he s always got something. you know, it s an epic battle between conservatives and libertarians it s epic, but it s new? it s fairly fresh. it s been simmering for some time, but coming out before the 2016 cycle and rand paul is playing on that and he s also
playing on the fact that this is marco rubio s token cuban kid moment. hey, i m cuban american, let me get some headlines here. so this is his way to come out and say really outrageous things, whether they be right or wrong, just so he can say, i m out in front of the beipack, because he knows rand paul is playing it effectively ahead of that cycle. one thing rand paul is doing, why he s taking obama s position on this. he s saying, we do need to change up our strategy on this. he knows there s young voters who want to vacation in cuba. they know the strategy is outdated. and the cuban american vote is about 50/50 now. it s a wash. so don t assume you have to move in the direction of the red hots. the issue of cuba is no
longer a defining issue for republicans. 20 years ago, the republicans came down hard. a lot of them in the house in the senate now don t care about this one way or the other. it s ancient history. they re more concerned about domestic policy and spending. it s going to be much more difficult for marco rubio to try to push rand paul to the side than maybe five or ten years ago. how does the white house sum this strange bedfellows situation up? president obama said he will continue to press this on. he had a press conference this afternoon and said he was planning to do what he wanted to do despite congress s opposition, and this is obviously one of those things. but he d rather work with congress. but this is definitely something they ve come out for and they are full throttle to do what they want to do. here he is, he fired back on critics of the cuba deal. let s watch him. what i know deep in my bones is that if you ve done the same thing for 50 years and nothing s
changed, you should try something different, if you want a different outcome. and this gives us an opportunity for a different outcome. through engagement, we have a better chance of bringing about change than we would have otherwise. change is going to come to cuba. it has to. they ve got an economy that doesn t work. that sounds so millennial. the old guys didn t get it right. we ll try something new. it s a reflection of the administration trying to pivot into this kind of a mode. i think it s going to be, people want to get everything they want on this deal. republicans may be able to force their hands on things like maybe opening an embassy how do you do that? how do you stop the president who has the right to declare diplomatic relations with another country? they ll go to go to congress to approve shipping money in the
state department to open up the embassy. congress will say no. they ll need that. without that, that could have an impact on some of this. but it depends on how much having a physical embassy matters. is that the house and the senate? both. obama made this announcement a week after they pass a $1.3 trillion budget. so he has the seed funding to move forward with the staff it strikes me as a little pissent. to not let the guy name an ambassador. just seems so petty, kate. it s not like debating. it s saying you can t do what you have a right to do. it s like saying we re not going to pay for the white house meals anymore, or close down the electricity in the executive branch. just seems so small-minded to use your power that way. congress will do everything they can to stop it the way they think they can. i called the man who is down there already ambassador.
so there may not be an ambassador there, but there s a presence there. it s going to be very difficult for them to really the fundamental change has already happened. we are now talking about having normalized relationships with cuba. it s a fundamental shift and there s not a lot republicans are going to be able to do other than the cuban americans, jose diaz-balart, that would be hard for the republicans to shoot that down, i would think. in many ways, there are things that have ticked down over the years. the president has, you know, loosened travel restrictions. there s a pretty robust u.s. presence there, where they route things through the swiss government. so there s a presence there. really quickly, the underreported political dynamic, russia is about to build a spy base and the cuban relationship with venezuela and with people like iran, north korea, it s a very clever move by the
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i was singing this song we ll meet again don t know when don t know where but i know we ll meet again some sunny day we re back with our great round table. charles and katie and john. did you realize what was going on is there? the last music from dr. strangelove when the bombs are dropping, and then henry kissinger while they re singing we ll meet again. what did you think? i was supposed to be there but i had a brother-in-law party last night. i m curious to see what happens when he goes will he be a new permit? well, he has to be. he can t be himself, though. but i want to see how much of the politics he s able to bring into late night sort of basic television. i think that that will be an interesting thing because he s done such a great job of
helping along with jon stewart create this new brand on cable. and i noticed kimmel is getting better. isn t he? i don t know what the competition will be. i have a feeling he s a really nice guy when you meet him but he s a regular guy. i think he has to develop a hybrid of the guy he plays because chevy chase, as i said the other night, didn t work as chevy chase. he just disappeared because when he wasn t playing that character like jerry lewis played a character, the jerk, he called him. most guys play somebody. right, right. he made political news reporting more approachable, the whole game of politics more approachable. he represents that rat pack. let s watch more from colbert s sendoff last night. he reflected on some of his major accomplishments over the last nine years.
zoe all those things they said i did, save olympics, the rally to restore sanity and/or for and/or cat stevens career. none of that, none of that was really me. you, the nation, did all of that. i just got paid for it. thanks. thanks. that was really cool of you guys. nice when good things happen to good guys. thank you. when we return, let me finish with president obama today and how things are going racially in this country. i m going to let the president speak for the president. you re watching hardball, the place for politics.
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were. the gap between income and wealth of white and black america persists. and we ve got more work to do on that front. i ve been consistent in saying that this is a legacy of a troubled racial past of jim crow and slavery. that s not an excuse for black folks. and i think the overall majority of black people understand it s not an excuse. they re working hard. they re out there hustling and trying to get an education, trying to send their kids to college. but they re starting behind oftentimes in the race. what s true for all americans is we should be willing to provide people a hand up. not a hand up but help folks get that good, early childhood

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donald trump just wrapped up his rally in vegas. sunlen serfaty is there. joining me now, donald trump did seize on the investigation but what else? reporter: that s right. he did, fred. it seems as if donald trump is campaigning with a new spring in his step and capitalizing on the e-mail server scandal. he s been relentless and today is no exception. he almost joked to this crowd, i never thought we d be thanking anthony weiner nine days out. here s what he had to say. her cell action was willful, deliberate, intentional and purposeful. hillary set up an illegal server for the obvious purpose of
shielding her criminal conduct from public disclosure and exposure. she set up this illegal server knowing full well that her actions put our national security at risk and put the safety and security of your children at risk. now, trump campaign officials feel this is an opening that they ve been given in this final nine days. also, something else from donald trump, going after obamacare premiums, raising potentially going up next week, that s something he s been talking about on the campaign trail and will continue to stay on the offensive according to trump campaign officials. they are looking at battleground polls that are tightening and midweek they may see a tick-up in the polls. they certainly have that anticipation and that hope, fred. sunlen serfaty, thank you so much.
so as the clinton campaign continues to demand more information from the fbi about their review of the e-mails, they are also acknowledging that this scandal would have never happened had clinton not used her private e-mail server. cnn s jake tapper spoke with clinton campaign manager john podesta on state of the union . do you accept the premise that the reason we re here that hillary clinton and her inner circle, not including you, made a horrible decision to set up her private e-mail server and everything that s happened since then is her fault? look, i think she s apologized for setting up a private e-mail server, said it was a mistake and she wouldn t do it over again. it s very clear that this has been an issue through the course of this campaign. i think she obviously would like to take that decision back. but she s learned from it. and i think what s important about this campaign at this stage, with nine days to go, is
who is fit to be president, who has the experience and the question of whether donald trump is too dangerous, too tempermently unfit to be president of the united states. so that s what we re going to close off and we re going to talk about the future she wants to build in building an economy that works for everyone, not just people at the top. i always hear the clinton team say that she s learned from it. what has she learned? as she s said many times, she wouldn t do it over again. it s the kind of decision that i think needed more thought, more review and i think she regrets that and i think it s regrettable and you learn and move on. again, i think in contrast to her opponent who never seems to
learn from his mistakes and keeps repeating them and doubling down on them. one of the things that s interesting and one of the things that democrats in washington, d.c., are debating is whether or not hillary clinton has actually learned from this experience when it comes to people in her circle. i m not necessarily including you in that group but people who are more of a new guard even if you have a long-standing relationship with the clintons, were stunned when word of the private e-mail server was first reported in march of 2015, according to the stolen e-mails published by wikileaks and i know you say this is the russians and it s not me saying it. it s a lot of people saying it, including the government. okay. intelligence professionals say that. be that as it may you wrote, did you have any idea of the depth of this story?
a clinton ally co-chairing your transition why didn t they get this stuff out like 18 months ago so crazy. you responded unbelievable. i guess i know the answer they wanted to get away with it. july 25th, do we know who told hillary she could use a private e-mail and has that person been drawn and quartered? you re acting like the server was a simple mistake but you knew this was going to be a big problem. it s easy with 20/20 hindsight. if someone had taken the steps and looked at it, if one would have definitely made a difference decision but it happened. i think it was at the beginning it was just done for convenience, but at the end of the day, it was a major problem i think as i told you, i think she s learned from it. i ve worked with her closely in this campaign. she takes hard advice, she respects people who will get up in her face and i think that the reason that i ve kind of survived through the whole campaign is because that s the
kind of person i am. you certainly are. has anyone in the government provided you with the status report, john, on the investigation into your hacked and stolen e-mails? no. i ve talked to the fbi at the beginning of this, and my attorney has been in touch with them. it s part of the investigation of the russian hacks, but the scope of it, who knew what when, the fact that the trump campaign seems to have been in contact with julian assange from wikileaks quite early at least as early as august, i don t know what their investigation is finding. you re referring to roger stone saying trump confidant, let me correct myself. okay.
a trump confidant roger stone, who, you know, bragged about being in touch with julian assange and talked about the fact that they were going to come after me was, he did that back in august. so what the government has learned about the interactions between assange and the russians, it seems clear that the russians were the ones who did the initial hack, how they got to wikileaks, what the relationship was with roger stone, i don t know. i assume the government is looking at that but i don t know anything more. maybe jim comey, if he thinks it s important, will let us know and come out in the next nine days. all right. john podesta this morning. we ll talk with our panel about this right after a quick break. when i started designing a bronx tale: the musical, i came up. .with this idea of four towers that were fire escapes. .essentially. i ll build a little model in photoshop and add these. .details in with a pen. i could never do that with a mac. i feel like my job is. .to put out there just enough detail to spur the audiences.
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all right. you just heard john podesta respond to the fbi investigation. let s talk about this with our panel, historian and professor, julian and david who is a cnn political commentator. also with the washington post. good to see you. david, let me begin with you. podesta paints this as nuance. he thinks huma abedin truly did believe she had handed over everything. so even in your newspaper today it s reported that beabedin did not use her husband s computer very much. so how is it that clinton e-mails may be in that device? i think what we know now is what director comey said. he issued this vague letter on friday which does have the clinton camp up in arms and you can certainly sympathize with hillary clinton and her surrogates saying that this was vague and, you know, overblew
the investigation but at the same time, fredricka, you know, fbi director comey did say he would update congress on any new developments in the investigation and this might be a very small development but it s a development nonetheless. julian, previously the clinton campaign largely avoided talking about the e-mail scandal in rallies and in press conferences today. clinton didn t address it directly when she was in florida but the camp did release this explainer video. so is it enough? well, she s going to have to be out there talking about what is going on. they are talking about her and podesta until that interview on raising questions about comey and about the entire process. but you can t let that consume everything she does. it s important that hillary clinton also keeps talking about
her agenda and, frankly, her attacks on donald trump. otherwise, if she s just talking about the e-mail story, it will be all anybody hears about. so david, you re alluding to this, that it s a promise that comey made that he wanted to keep everyone abreast. he didn t want to be in the middle of this necessary but through his transparency, he is. so could he or should he have anticipated that this would result just a few days before election day? yeah, i think it was foreseeable when he sent that letter to control that it would throw the election into a little bit of a scurry in these last nine days. in the last two weeks, fredricka, donald trump has been closing on clinton in the polls prior to this information coming to light. our own washington post poll this weekend shows it s a two-point race nationally and it s tight in several of the key swing states.
what it s doing is not necessarily changing the entire dynamic of the race. again, we don t know what is in these e-mails or what was on this laptop or device that was recovered from huma abedin or anthony weiner. we know it s making it difficult for hillary clinton to make her closing argument in the last week of this race, which is what she was starting to settle in and do. she came out of the debates sort of the winner of those three debates, certainly the debates were trying to knock down a narrow polling lead and now she s got to defend this and it s frustrating her aides, including john podesta. the relationship between huma abedin and hillary clinton, very, very tight. huma has been working for hillary clinton since she was an intern in 1996. so now you ve got this scandal potentially and the relationship with anthony weiner and that investigation. so might this mean a prelude to a split between a clinton and
huma abedin in the midst of all of this? it sure could. and even if this doesn t have a detrimental effect on the election for her, i think both with this particular situation but all of her advisers, it raises a question we ve heard about hillary clinton. if she always surrounds herself with the best advice and surrounds herself with the best people and so i think this is clearly going to be a case where there s serious consideration, you would imagine, to severing this relationship after this is done. all right. so much more ahead, david, julian. stick around. we have a lot more to tackle. the fbi is under pressure to give more details about its review of this e-mail involving a clinton top aide, huma abedin. so coming up, you ll hear from a republican lawmaker who has spoken to director james comey about the inquest. so find out what comey and lawmakers actually know about huma abedin s e-mails. that i .
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abedin. the e-mails were discovered on a computer that anthony weiner shared with his wife. robert goodlay told abc s this week that he encouraged comey to give the american people as much information as possible about the discovered e-mails before the election. you mentioned classified information. how do you or mr. comey know that there s classified information involved here if you haven t seen the e-mails? well, we don t know. and we don t know what the basis was for mr. comey making the decision to further pursue the case. we don t know whether that s informants, whether they ve had access to looking some of this information, we don t know what the basis was. we do know they know something is there. cnn investigations correspondent chris frates joining me live now from washington. chris, tell us more about what goodlay had to say. so far, it seems that comey is not telling lawmakers much
more than what he s saying publicly. look, at this point, it s nothing. here s how he described his conversation with fbi director comey. did mr. comey tell you he would be coming forward with more information? he did not. his answer was with regard to a number of questions i asked him that he was not going to answer those questions at this point, meaning the conversation i had with him and mr. conyers. but with regard to mr. comey making a mistake, i think that he is very conscious of the controversy that s existed in the fbi. so despite the call by both democrats and republicans for comey to release more information, the fbi director is really not budging here. that s largely because he doesn t even know yet what s in those e-mails. and so chris, how odd is that, that director comey would not know what was in the e-mails but would construct a letter to
the hill ? there s a reason for that. the fbi doesn t have permission to go through those e-mails yet. they are trying to get their approval. the government needs a new warrant because it only covers the investigation into abedin s estranged husband, anthony weiner. they need to get a new warrant for these newly discovered e-mails. right now, they only have a warrant to investigate anthony weiner. it s unlikely we ll have any answers to the big question here, which is, what is actually in these e-mails, until after the election, fred. chris frates, thanks so much in washington. and we ll be right back. mornin . hey, do you know when the game starts? 11 hours. oh. well, i m heading back to my room. oh, wi-fi password? super bowl, underscore houston underscore 51, underscore super bowl, backslash 51, backslash houston.
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clinton s close aide huma abedin. cnn is being told that the discovery of those thousands of e-mails was weeks ago. cnn s justice correspondent evan perez is on the phone with me. this was not a discovery made this week when the letter went out but instead weeks ago? that s right. we got the impression that the fbi made this disclosure to members of the congress and in that letter jim comey, the fbi director said that he had been briefed on thursday. what that letter doesn t say is is when the fbi first learned of this and we re told by law enforcement officials that we ve been talking to that they had this in their possession for weeks. we first reported cnn first reported back on september 22nd, just over a month ago, that the fbi that the u.s. attorney in manhattan and the fbi were seeking possession of anthony
weiner s communication as part of this sexting investigation. we re told that soon after that, they were able to get these noon indications and they were able to look at the e-mails and that s when the team in the fbi new york office discovered there may be huma abedin e-mails that related to the hillary clinton investigation. they stopped doing their work immediately and brought in the team that had been handling the e-mail investigation and they started looking at that. so by early october, it certainly was clear that there was something here, that it was pertinent to the clinton investigation. so what we are trying to get clarification from the fbi on is why it took so long for any of this to be known. perhaps if they had disclosed this back then, the reaction from the clinton camp would not be so severe. they feel it was revealed so
closely to the election that it could have an affect on the election and certainly now it will have to be looked at much more closely simply because now we know the fbi was in possession of this information for weeks and only now disclosed it. so evan, might it still be the case that while the fbi investigators knew about these e-mails weeks ago that perhaps they only informed director comey on this past thursday as comey has stated? well, we know that there were several officials at the fbi who had knowledge about this because there was some deliberation inside the fbi about what to do, about how to proceed. obviously everybody knows inside knows about the rules about not disclosing information that is politically sensitive close to an election. it s a policy drilled into
everybody there and they all know that this is something that is very sensitive. and so that might have been part of the deliberation. we don t know exactly what was the hang-up, what was the reason why they kept this under wraps for weeks and weeks and only disclosed it on friday. part of the accusations was because of concern that this would leak out anyway and they were concerned that if it did, it would appear that the fbi was covering up for the clinton campaign. they did not want it to appear that way. that s why they decided to disclose this to members of congress in a letter on friday. the question is, if they knew this so much earlier and they thought it was important enough to disclose to congress, why wouldn t they do it earlier this month? and the damage and the reputation to the fbi and all of the questions that jim comey is
now getting might have been softened a little bit. it s not clear whether that might have made a difference, but certainly that s the question that everybody is asking right now. and then why would not a search warrant have been applied for weeks ago upon the discovery as opposed to now we re hearing discussions of a search warrant are happening? that s right. exactly. that s another question we re asking, which is, if you had dealt with this back in early october when you certainly had a clear picture that this was related to the ongoing to the clinton investigation, then why didn t you start taking those steps then? again, the clock was ticking simply because there is a poll tea at the justice department and the fbi that you don t take certain investigative steps within 60 days of a an election. that s the policy. even if they had done this in october, it still would have raised the same problem. i think the question that the
clinton campaign now certainly has and it s a legitimate one, is perhaps if you had done this earlier, it would have given time to reveal this and for the voters to have all of this information, certainly not ten days or 11 days out to only learn this. fred? evan perez, thank you so much for your reporting. we ll check back with you. thank you so much. also, straight ahead, the trump campaign reacting to this new inquiry and the rising obamacare costs. what we ve got is not working and i m very glad that obamacare continues to form the core of his message even in light of the new fbi investigation. i m my team s #1 fan. yay. sports.
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all of my employees are having a tremendous problem with obamacare. this is another group, is that a correct statement? you look at what they re going through with their health care is horrible, because of obamacare. after he gave that statement the general manager of trump s property attempted to correct the record and said 99% of trump s employees are insured through the hotel meaning they have private insurance. how can mr. trump be the one to replace obamacare if he doesn t seem to understand how it works? he does understand. his employees are the lucky ones, jake. they don t have to suffer under obamacare he s talking about the rest of the country, so many who have. he s the right person to repeal and replace it because obamacare is an unmitigated disaster, reminds us how intrusive, invasive and expensive the federal government can come in our lives under the guise of helping people. he was in arizona yesterday and told them that their premiums are expected to rise by 116%. will cnn or anybody else ask mrs. clinton today when she s visiting arizona?
we see these other premium mailboxes and clicking onto their computers and getting notice their premiums are about to explode. it is reprehensible and deplorable to coin a phrase that americans are choosing between paying the rent, feeding their families and keeping of their health care. president obama lied 26 or 27 times telling people if you want to keep your doctor you can keep your doctor. no, you can t. people see a lack of quality, a lack of access, a lack of control and increase in price something under the guise of the affordable care act. the question for hillary clinton is what would you do about it? is obamacare 3.0 in the offing or the bernie sanders supporters who want to us move to single payer system? either way, she should own obamacare, she should be asked what she d do about it. donald trump says he d let you compete across state lines to buy your health insurance much the way you buy your auto insurance and other services. he would immediately remove the obamacare penalty which is
hurting many people, and he of course would allow a more patient-centric health care system which would give us all health savings accounts so only you can control your own health care spending, what we ve got is not working, and i m very glad that obamacare continues to form the core of his message, even in light of the new fbi investigation. we ve had a great week in large part because mr. trump is talking about obamacare. all right. let s bring back our political panel now to discuss all of this. back with me is cnn political commentator david swirdlick and julian zeli sdplchzer. before we dive into the rising premiums, let s revisit this breaking news through which our evan perez reported, he s learning that the fbi knew of these new e-mails when it seized or received this anthony weiner computer back in september 22nd.
so they ve known of these new e mays f e-mails for weeks now contrary to what director comey said learning about it this past thursday. we don t know if that was withheld from him for that period of time. so julian, how much bigger of a mess has this now been made? well, it becomes a bigger mess with every hour and the more questions raised about why the fbi did this and the process through which the decision was made obviously plays into the concerns that have been raised by the clinton supporters about the entire process through which this is being conducted but it s a reminder, especially without any evidence at this point of any kind of smoking done data that there s a danger of handling these kinds of stories so close to an election without knowing what the facts are. and so david, how do you see it? how much more, you know, potentially complicated does it come? right.
well, if director comey has the timeline wrong, that s a problem and he ll be scrutinized for it. if, in fact, the fbi knew about these e-mails or whatever it is that s on this device in september, that should have been disclosed, at least what we know and based on evan perez s reporting sooner in the process, not 11 days, which was friday, before the election. that being said, you know, the complaints come from the side that i think is having to struggle with them in a political politic political context. this is throwing a wrench into the clinton s closing argument. back in july when director comey was coming out and making what was also not really a typical fbi protocol statement and speech explaining why he was not recommending criminal charges to the justice department against secretary clinton, it was republicans complaining. and i think that goes to the fact that both sides in this are sort of, you know, pleading
their own case and understandably so but director comey really is in a very difficult position here. all right. let s shift gears to this affordable health care and rising premiums in certain jirks decisions. donald trump seizing on that saying he s going to and has committed to repealing and replacing you heard from kellyanne conway being challenged and whether donald trump has a clear understanding about the affordable care act. julian, you know, this is in step with what the gop has been saying for a very long time, it wants to replace and repeal. how does this assist donald trump? yeah, look, this has been an argument we ve heard from republicans for many years now. it actually faded in this campaign as other issues took up air time but it s come back because of the rising premiums. many would argue it s part of the story overall.
we have far fewer people uninsured but symbolically, the news that premiums have risen on some people will rise is very potent, especially post e-mail story. i think donald trump has the opportunity to use that as another rallying point for the republicans. david, is this advantageous? at least in the short term, yes. julian is right, broad-sweeping policy issues it s been more about the character of the two candidates and them trying to knock each other down rather than to put forward a broad, comprehensive policy agenda. i also think that you played the clip of kellyanne conway talking about the dire state of obamacare. i think that was exaggerated. you can t blame the trump campaign to seize on this and
make their argument that they are the change candidate, that people should rally to them because the obama administration and clinton administration have not delivered. whether that s true, it s a fair argument for them to make. does donald trump have to elaborate any further, give any detail about what kind of replacement he would envision? he s still behind even though the polls have tightened and even though he s doing a lot better in national polls, she is still in the lead and she still has an advantage in the electoral college and he comes with many liabilities as well. i don t think voters have forgotten that. he has a lot of pressure to get out there and show that he can actually handle some of these policy discussions in ways he has not demonstrated. so he shouldn t think that he can coast in this final week because he should also remember that he s coming from behind at this point. all right. julian, david, thank you so
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husband, anthonyweiner. the e-mails were discovered during an investigation of weiner, accused of sexting an en underage girl. brynn gingras joins me from new york with more. we know that anthony weiner started in congress in 1999 and then two years later, hillary clinton would become a part of the senate. they became even more entwined when weiner started dating huma aberde huma abedin, who clin described as her second daughter. anthony wee weiner remaking quiet. he s made no comment and hasn t been seen leaving his manhattan home this weekend, as questions remain what e-mails were discovered that launched the
justice department to reopen the case into hillary clinton s use of a private e-mail server. weiner once stood in harmony with clinton, serving on capitol hill at the same time. weiner was a charismatic, political rising star, who had his eye on clinton s confidant, huma abedin. opposites attracted. the two marries in 2010. bill clinton officiated the ceremony. however, marital bliss soon faced a bomb shell. i m announcing my resignation from congress. reporter: weiner surrendered his political post after texting a picture of his crotch, as the couple were expecting a child. huma gave him a second chance and he asked the voters of new york too, as well. but more crude conversations with women surfaced. the final straw for huma abedin
came with allegations that weiner sexted with an underage girl. huma abedin announced she was separating from her husband, and now this jolting the election before voters head to the polls. weiner is cooperating. no comment in regards to the recent developments. thank you so much. appreciate it. coming up, we ll hear from donald trump and hillary clinton supporters. what they think about this growing fbi investigation. anyone with type 2 diabetes knows how it feels to see your numbers go up, despite your best efforts. but what if you could turn things around?
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i m proud of the fbi for stepping forward and saying, hey, there s nobody in this country that is above the law. we re all the same. seems like everybody is focusing on all of her untrustworthiness and not questioning donald trump. you know, not questioning all the things against him. now i m starting to sound like kellyanne conway, so i ll keep it on hillary. it makes it more imperative that we come out and support her. because there are people just screaming against her all the time. oh, she s unreliable. you can t believe what she says. they ve spent millions of dollars and hundreds of hours investigating she and bill clinton for what, 20 years? they found nothing so far. all right. we have so much more straight ahead in the newsroom. it all starts right now. hello again, everyone, and thank you so much for joining

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tonight, and he is coming off a summit with some of the people who were his strongest detractors during the campaign. senior national correspondent john roberts is outside trump tower again tonight. good evening, john. bret, good evening to you. it was the highest profile summit yet at trump tower, which is directly behind this bus behind me, and also the highest dollars. donald trump played host to high-tech billionaires, most of whom actively campaigned against him in the election. well, i just want to thank everybody. reporter: it was a crowd that just weeks ago had been openly hostile to donald trump. amazon founder jeff bezos who during the campaign claimed trump was eroding the democratic process. apple ceo tim cook who raised millions for hillary clinton. facebook coo sheryl sandberg also backed hillary clinton, as did tesla and spacex founder, elon musk. today trump urged them all to put political differences aside and focus on growing the economy, point out tech stocks have been doing pretty well
to say no. also in the running is south dakota republican congresswoman christey noe. while she said she d prefer to stay in congress, she might have a kdifficult time declining. trump has promised to revamp the structure and culture of the va. that will require a unique candidate. despite the delay, trump remains well ahead of most of his recent predecessors in naming his cabinet. on the latest stop in his thank you tour in wisconsin last night, donald trump publicly buried the hatchet with house speaker paul ryan. the two finally appearing on stage together. and when trump supporters booed ryan. the president-elect leapt to his defense, albeit with a caveat. you know, honestly, he s like a fine wine. every day goes by, i get to appreciate his genius more and more. now, if he ever goes against me, i m not going to say that, okay.
all have ties to oil producing states. scott pruitt has even questioned climate change itself. i think the president s view is that policy making should be guided by science and that the policy makers should be listening to scientists, both inside the government and outside the government. reporter: adding to the white house s concerns, reports pie the president-elect s team for the names of the energy department staff and contractors who worked on the obama administration s efforts to reduce carbon emissions, a survey since disavowed by the trump transition team. there should be real apprehension across the country that clean energy revolution, our efficiency revolution, our fight for clean airan water are going to be under assault from the minute he takes the oath of office. reporter: by the way, bret, the person that sent out that survey has since been properly counselled. it s also important to point out that they re expected to take a very fresh look at a number of obama administration policies as far as the energy environment is
federal funds rate is appropriate in light of the solid progress we have seen toward our goals of maximum employment and 2% inflation. we continue to expect that the evolution of the economy will warrant only gradual increases in the federal funds rate over time. stocks declined on the news that the fed may make three more rate hikes next year. the dow dropped 119, the s&p 500 was off 18, the nasdaq fell 27. now joining us from our sister network, fox business network s melissa francis. so why did the rate hike or the talk of more rate hikes spook the market today? yeah, it was really about that idea of janet yellen saying that we might be raising rates three more times in the year. investors had expected the federal reserve to say that maybe it would be two more times, but, you know, i would caution investors out there, they promised a number of rate hikes within a year in the past and they haven t followed
deposit or spend currency that is about to become worthless. embattled president nicholas maduro said he was taking the most commonly used bill out of circulation. venezuela is in a long economic crisis. we ve reported on it before. struggling with the world s highest inflation. people have been lining up outside banks since tuesday morning. we ll continue to follow the situation there. there is considerable confusion tonight about whether the on again, off again truce in aleppo, syria, is on again. late this afternoon syrian rebels said it was, but cease-fires like this have come and gone before without much success. tonight correspondent rich edison is at the white house looking at where we are right now in the war in syria. a warning here, though, some of the images in this report may be disturbing. reporter: this is what cease-fire agreements look like this aleppo, syria.
translator: look how they killed my child. why, my brother, why. reporter: these buses were to evacuate civilians and rebels. instead they re empty. they had agreed to allow them to evacuate aleppo, returning control of the city to ba shaush bashar al assad. syrian forces have returned bombing aleppo as they capture more of the city. symbolically it means a study they have struggled to besiege and encircle and take for years is finally theirs. reporter: the united nations says pro-government forces have killed dozens of civilians. there are dozens of suicides. in more than five years of fighting, hundreds of thousands of syrians are dead, killed as several nations, rebel groups and terrorist organizations converged on this country. in 2011, it began with hope. syria joined the arab spring. citizens mobilizing to overthrow
their oppressive governments. assad responded with a violent crackdown. the country fell into civil war with terrorist groups joining the fight to secure syrian territory of its own. that summer the obama administration declared assad must step aside. a year later, this threat. a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. reporter: another year later, assad s forces killed 1400 using sarin gas. obama decided to walk back from his threat and pursue diplomacy with assad s ally, russia. that diplomacy has turned to disgust. the idea that you would target a playground and bomb kids, hoping that you would then convince people to give up because you had killed their kids? what kind of a sick mind comes up with a strategy like that? and what kind of civilized country is going to support those tactics? but that s what russia has done. reporter: and now questions of whether the administration should have engaged further in
syria, beyond air strikes against isis. there has never been a recognition that civilian population protection is at the heart, at the heart of avoiding and fighting extremism. our failure to protect the syrian population is i think the biggest policy failure we did. reporter: syria will be a question for the trump administration, as it will now decide whether and how to engage russia and continued u.s. involvement in syria. rich, thank you. the marine corps is grounding its fleet of mv-22 osprey aircraft in japan following a crash off the coast of japan earlier this week. it happened while the tilt rotor plane was conducting a nighttime midair refueling operation. the five crew members aboard the plane were all rescued. it is the eighth crash incident involving marine aircraft this year. a new theory tonight on how russian hackers allegedly got into the hillary clinton campaign e-mail system.
the daily mail reports a typo in an e-mail from one of clinton s top aides may have been responsible for opening a digital door. meantime the house intelligence committee abruptly circled thursday s briefing on the alleged russian election hacks. fox news is told that the intel agencies, the cia, fbi, nsa, odni all refused to provide briefers, which is unusual given that this is the most senior committee with jurisdiction. the russian scandal has put the spotlight on our country s aging i.t. infrastructure and not just the equipment. you might be shocked to learn just how many of the men and women charged with keeping our government s computers safe and effective are among the country s oldest workers. peter doocy tells us more tonight. reporter: during the presidential campaign season, there was a lot of talk about who should have his or her finger on the button that controls the nation s nuclear arsenal. it turns out that nuclear arsenal is partly coordinated
using an 8-inch floppy disk. where do you buy a floppy disk? i can t imagine what the price is now. and so that s the big threat is this slow, grinding, lower quality, higher cost set of services. reporter: the cost of caring for such ancient equipment is now so high the feds don t have much money left over for anything else. among the biggest spenders on i.t., hhs at $13 billion a year, dhs at more than $6 billion a year and the va at nearly $4.5 billion a year. the federal government spends almost $90 billion a year on information technology and almost 80% of that is spent on operations and maintenance, servicing systems that may be over 50 years old. reporter: the workforce is aging too. there are more federal i.t. employees over 60 than there are under 30. at hud, 23% of i.t. workers are
over 60. at the national science foundation 18%, and at labor, 17%, which could become a problem whenever they decide to leave. there are a lot of folks that are retirement eligible that will be leaving in the near term. the real question is are we going to be able to attract the best talent to come in to fill those places and bluntly to do things differently than we ve been doing in the past. cost isn t the only concern as the government tries to get top talent to work for them. the nation s cyber infrastructure remains exposed to hackers. we need about 30,000 to thwart the worst kind of attack on this country. we ve only got about a thousand. reporter: experts are waiting to see how the next president addresses the aging i.t. infrastructure, but private sector companies don t have to wait for anything, like ibm action whose ceo says the company is trying to adjust to changes in tech by hiring thousands of what she calls new collar workers who don t necessarily even need college degrees.
peter, thank you. up next, why some people are worried a president donald trump has interesting communication plans. first, here s what some of our fox news affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox carolina in greenville as lawyers for the man accused of killing nine black parishioners at a south carolina church rest their case without calling any witnesses. earlier a judge ruled they could not present evidence about dylann roof s mental health. closing arguments are planned for tomorrow. fox 8 in high point, north carolina, with the firing of a wake forest university football announcer accused of giving sensitive information to the team s opponents. tommy el rod is a former player for the school and was also a coach for 11 seasons. he was not retained when the current coach took over. this is a live look from our affiliate in san francisco, fox 2. one of the big stories there tonight, uber puts some of their self-driving cars into service there. it s an expansion of the pilot
program that started in pittsburgh in september. an uber employee is still behind the wheel to take over in case there s a problem here. customers can opt out if they prefer a human driver. would you? that s tonight s live look outside the beltway from special report. we ll be right back. generosity is its own form of power.
i m in all the way. is that understood? i don t know what she s up to, but it s not good. can t the world be my noodles and butter? get your mind out of the gutter. mornings are for coffee and contemplation. that was a really profound observation. you got a mean case of the detox blues. don t start a war you know you re going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. tonight we continue our series on the first 100 days of the donald trump presidency. with one of his signature campaign rallying points. early and often the republican nominee took aim at president obama s legacy nuclear deal with iran. but trump also hinted he would not just tear up that deal, so now the question is what will the new president do about the nuclear deal and is there room for a detente with iran beyond
the deal? chief washington correspondent james rosen reports. reporter: born in iran, an accomplished lecturer and the author of three books in he sees some prospects under the next president for improved relations between washington and his ancestral persian homeland. if nothing else, mr. trump, he does represent american pragmatism. he will cut deals. he will sit down with friend and foe and try to come up with the best deals. reporter: in the years since the iranian regime the united states along with five other nations implemented a deal, including huge infusions of cash. at the same time iran s military has harassed the u.s. military.
ramped up ballistic missile testing, intervened to prop up the assad regime in syria, continued funding hamas and hezbollah and reaffirmed undying hostility to the nation it calls the great satan. most analysts believe in his first 100 days in office the next president will make swift demonstration to his changing the relationship. the nuclear chord at the heart, never having been ratified by congress, is at once the easiest thing to change and the most far reaching. as a candidate, donald trump criticized it bitterly. this is one of the worst deals ever made by any country in history. the deal with iran will lead to nuclear problems. all they have to do is sit back ten years and they don t have to do much and they re going to get nuclear. reporter: but he has also signalled he doesn t intend to walk away from the deal. to ri deal. i ve taken over some bad contracts. i would police that contract so
tough that they don t have a chance, as bad as the contract is, i will be so tough on that contract. reporter: the secretary of state who negotiated the iran deal hinting ehintinged to repo brussels that president obama in attempting to persuade his successor not to scrap the deal thought there was some headway. there were aspects of it that were constructive and positive and worthwhile and maybe should be held onto. reporter: iranes president has warned tehran will not allow mr. trump to weaken or abandon the deal. the state department acknowledged iran has no such power. they cannot prevent any party from walking away. the counter argument is why would anyone walk away because it s effective. reporter: outside of the nuclear deal, it is the raging civil war and humanitarian catastrophe in syria that may offer the new president
coordination with iran. the president-elect has vowed to work with the kremlin to resolve that conflict. alan parsa for one says mr. trump may recognize a bit of himself in his adversaries in iran. iranians have shown themselves to be rather pragmatic in many, many areaare and as mr. trump has said they re good deal makers too. reporter: even if he intends to quiet things down between the u.s. and iran, mr. trump will soon find his hand forced by events. members of congress have proposed close to three dozen sanctions bills and the new president will have to issue new waivers for the nuclear deal to continue, if of course mr. trump is of a mind to keep it. james, thank you. our 15-part series looking ahead to the first 100 days of the trump presidency continues tomorrow with the president-elect s plans for tax cuts and simplification of the tax code. if you miss any of the reports,
you can check them all out on foxnews.com/specialreport. president trump s critics have something new to worry about tonight. it involves the decades-old effort to spread democracy to other nations through the media. howard kurtz is here tonight with some big changes for agency lgs su agencies such as the voice of america. reporter: politico says that trump will take over an office that could turn into an unfetterred propaganda arm, a kind of trump tv that could only peddle trump approved content. trump could name the editor of breitbart news or another alt-right propagandaist to control how the u.s. is represented to the rest of the world. we re talking about naming a single chief executive to oversee the voa, radio-free europe on the other agencies that are currently battling such forces as isis propaganda and
russian cyber hacking. haven t they been around for decades? yes, but a new law is eliminating the broadcasting board of governors, it s been widely criticized add ineffective and replace it with a single ceo. that change was supported by president obama s administration, president s chairman at the board of governors, the top democrat on the house foreign affairs committee among others. the senate, by the way, could approve or reject that anybody trump nominated. i spoke to the committee chairman, ed royce, and i asked him about the furor. i think that s hysteria. as a matter of fact, there s very clear laws in place here in this legislation that put in a firewall in terms of journalistic independence. so in fact what s driving this is opposition from the bureaucracy itself. meanwhile, bret, hillary clinton herself as secretary of state testified that the broadcasting board of governors was practically defunct in terms
of being able to sell a message to the world. congressman royce introduced this legislation last year, virtually no news coverage. only since trump s election have news organizations seized on it, suggesting, possibly, a double standard. howie, thank you. the election of donald trump has many in the united nations worried about big changes in the u.s. attitude toward that organization. president-elect trump has made no secret of his disdain for the u.n. and the global group has just sworn in a new secretary general who is promising what he calls management reform. senior correspondent eric shawn looks at that situation tonight. the united nations is not a friend of democracy. it s not a friend to freedom. it s not a friend even to the united states of america. reporter: donald trump clearly no fan of the united nations. the president-elect s views are at odds with the world body on a variety of pressing issues, from its support of the iran nuclear
deal, climate change initiatives and resettling refugees. the overwhelming feeling among most members was that barack obama was their kind of u.s. president, so i think it will be a different reception. but i think the whole point of the idea of making america great again is to reassert ourselves, especially in bodies like the united nations. reporter: former u.n. ambassador john bolden who has talked to mr. trump about joining the administration predicts the president-elect will take a hard stance at the u.n. he says the almost $3 billion american taxpayers paid this year alone, the most of any nation, could be cut. i think a good, hard look at the u.n. budget is long overdue. i wouldn t be at all surprised if a president trump once in office does pay particular attention to it. it s total insanity. reporter: that was the undiplomatic opinion of mr. trump a decade ago when we sat down to discuss the multi
billion dollar renovation. he testified about it to congress and accused the u.n. of overspending. it is either the most corrupt thing going on in the world, which is saying something, or it s one of the most incompetent things i ve ever seen. reporter: mr. trump has tapped republican south carolina governor nikki haley as his choice for juu.n. ambassador. i think there s a lot of day-to-day issues that she doesn t know about. the problem that nikki haley is going to face is that many of the other countries delegates are people that have been there for a very long time, like her counterpart from russia has been there for ten years. reporter: a possible preview of what governor haley could face came in a september speech by the u.n. commissioner for human rights. he compared the rhetoric from mr. trump and others that he called populist, demagogues and clever cheats to the propaganda of isis. some breaking news now. the house intelligence committee chairman is not happy at all that the intelligence agencies
have refused to provide anybody for that committee hearing on alleged russian hacking. devon nunez replacing a statement. it is unacceptable that the intelligence community directors would not fulfill the house intelligence committee s request to be briefed tomorrow on the cyber attacks that occurred during the presidential campaign. the legislative branch is constitutionally vested with oversight responsibility of executive branch s agencies which are obligated to comply with our requests. the committee is deeply concerned that intrance jents in sharing intelligence with congress can enable the manipulation for political purposes. we will talk about more of this with the panel in just a moment. many of you are hopeful and optimistic, some of you are scared. we will talk about all of the fox news polls as well, since donald trump won the election, and that breaking news about the intelligence agencies giving the stiff arm to the house intelligence committee when the panel joins me after a break.
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did we have our hair on fire that hacking took place? no. i mean that s what happens. if he can discredit the integrity of what we do here in the voting process and electing folks, he is winning. we have the president-elect of the united states publicly condemning the intelligence services on which he will have to rely as president. if i m running that covert action, i m putting it in the win column. it s quite possible that the republican party has been exploited and donald trump himself might have been exploited over the years by russian intelligence. so a lot of talk about the alleged hacking and what it meant for the election, as the breaking news we just brought to you, that the intel agencies are not providing any briefers to the house intelligence committee and the chairman, devon nunez,
being very upset about that. this is new fox news polls coming out on this issue. russia s attempts to influence the 2016 presidential election helped donald trump and there you see all voters 32%, hillary clinton 1%, no effect 59%. of course clinton voters a much different take on all of that. donald trump s dealings with china and russia. here you see the breakdown in the fox poll. too accommodating to russia, 50%. too confrontational with china, 43%. interesting findings there. finally overall, the opinion of donald trump as it stands now, according to our latest polls, favorable, unfavorable, 47-51. you can see a big jump as far as where it stood at the beginning of november at election time. let s bring in our panel. steve hayes, senior writer for the weekly had is it. maura elison of national public radio and guy benson, political editor at townhall.com, charles
hurt, political columnist for the washington times. steve, first of all, congratulations. you have a new title. i do have a new title. and said title is? editor in chief of the weekly standard. thank you very much, we will put that up. congratulations. the thoughts about the nunez development and the fact that the intel agencies are not providing briefings to what he wanted a hearing on this russian hacking. pretty extraordinary that they would deny briefings. from what i understand it was a denial of the requested briefings rather than just not being responsive. they have said no, they re not going to provide the briefing. you know, the statement that you read from devon nunez, he s not someone who is prone to anger. that was steaming anger coming from him, especially the suggestion that this could be the politiciization of intelligence. i think the context that you ve seen in the minds of many republicans, including on the oversight committees.
over the years, particularly at the cia throughout the obama administration. if you look back at the kind of intelligence products that the cia was providing to the president, it was consistent with what the president wanted to be true, particularly with respect to al qaeda, isis, the war on terror. so they were providing intelligence product that was fit to match what the president s ideological conclusions. the concern is that that s what s taking place again here. i think if the cia or people at the cia are going to be leaking these kinds of accusations, they have an obligation to go before the congressional oversight committees and explain themselves. now, having said all of that, these are very serious claims. i think there are some people who are defending the trump administration or conservatives who aren t being serious enough about the potential russian intervention in the u.s. election. okay, maura, so here you have this story, the washington post does it first, that the cia believes that the russians
hacked in order to help donald trump. you have clearly some intel agencies that are not on the same page when it comes to this. right. now, nunez is trying to figure this out and he calls this committee hearing and gets the heisman award from the intel agencies, we re not going. now, how are the electors who are asking for intel briefings to feel confident about that to me is inexplicable. put aside the dissention about the motive. there is one thing that is almost unanimous, which is that russia accounted hacked. russia wanted to sow doubts among americans about their own electoral process. that s a real cyber attack and it s really serious. that s something that donald trump, so far the only prominent american that we know of, who has completely rejected that finding that russia hacked. as a matter of fact, he said it could have been a 400-pound guy
sitting somewhere. lindsey graham said it might have been a 400-pound guy but it was a 400-pound russian guy. i don t know why they didn t brief. there are going to be hearings on this. they briefed them in october. they briefed congress in october. they briefed november 17th. here is the director of national intelligence, clapper. as far as the wikileaks connection, the evidence there is not as strong and we don t have good insight into the sequencing of the releases or when the data may have been provided. is he off script there, guy? what s going on? who knows. anyone s guess is as good as mine. i think that there has to be an answer here from the intelligence community. when you re brought forward and congress asks to hear from you and the relevant oversight committee wants to hear, there s a lot of noise out there, there s a lot of allegations flying back and forth, the
motives are unclear, differences in opinion among various agencies, when congress asks you to show up and explain yourself on some level and you say no, the american people have to ask the question, i don t care if you re a republican or democrat, why on earth can they say that. not just why are they saying it, why can they say that. at some point they need to show up and answer questions. meanwhile the white house, josh earnest from the podium is getting a little more aggressive when it comes to this topic. a whole lot more. i think that s a very important thing to remember. obviously the accusations are very serious. if russia attempted or succeeded in any way to sort of interfere with our american elections, that s a very serious issue and we need to get to the bottom of it without fear of favor of any politician. but on the other hand, you do have a sitting president right now who should be overseeing all of this and he s not doing much to help add clarity to all of it. i can t help but get the feeling
that he himself has contributed to the politicization of intelligence. how will history judge donald trump s presidency. you see the breakdown, one of the greatest, 11%, above average, one of the worst 31%. describe the election outcome feelings. 59% say hopeful, 50% said relieved. i think a lot of people covering the election. maura, what do you finding striking about these poll numbers? i m not sure what i make about the outcome, maybe it just means that it s over. that s subject to interpretation. but what i find striking is just the basic favorable/unfavorable. donald trump s favorable is now about his ballot. it should be higher. when you compare him to past presidents at this time, usually you get a bounce after you win. you usually don t have as much negative coverage either.
that s true, but usually you don t win in such a stunning way. this was a real upset. and you d think that he d get a bounce from that. but he didn t. so that s one thing that i think is really interesting. but it has been trending up, so we ll see if that trend continues. i think he did bounce. the only thing is he bounced those people are above their ballots. there was never going to be a big honeymoon period for the next president, regardless of who won, because these were unpopular people. the number bret, you mentioned, 59% of americans saying they re hopeful moving forward after the election. to me that s an opportunity for donald trump. this has been a very nasty cycle with a lot of strong feelings on all sides, acrimony, bitterness, and yet hopeful is the number one answer from the american people. if he can capture some of that and move forward, he can maybe gain some more political capital, to your point. and the other one, 68% of americans believe donald trump will repeal obamacare, that has to be a priority. jobs, jobs, jobs, he said in
the speech in wisconsin, steve, and today he met at trump tower with the tech community, a summit in which he said we ll do anything that you need, give me a call or give somebody in my administration a call if you have any issues. yeah, he said there wasn t a strict chain of command. call in and we ll take care of you. look, he s made very clear that he wants jobs to be a priority. one of the things that we ve seen him do early in his pre-presidential period is the pr of jobs. and whether you re talking about carrier, whether you re talking about meetings like this, this is showing america, americans are going to go home and see it on their news, watch shows like this and say donald trump is doing something about jobs. you know, part of the reason he won was because of the things that he said about the economy. showing that he s making progress, that he s actually checked in, tuned in to what people s priorities and concerns are, as guy says he could take advantage of that hopefulness. next up, the obama
administration takes one final shot at global warming skeptics.
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science. we have seen a lot of the science absolutely start running amuck. the interior secretary for the obama administration sally jewel. did you all know who the interior secretary was? be honest. that s why when you talk about all these choices in months from now we will all be asking those questions about the trump administration. she was asking a final push to imploring scientists to confront so-called climate change deniers. this after the trump transition team asked the energy department s e.p.a. staff to see who was working on the efforts to reduce carbon emissions. we re back with our panel. charlie, about this push. it s not a shocking argument to say that a lot of this climate change stuff has become something of a religion on the left. and it s a religion within the e.p.a. and the energy department. and i think that, you know, obviously, the cabinet are
doing their best to kind of frighten voters about this request for the names and the work of some of these people. but, you know, when trump said i think this is a scam for a lot of people to make a lot of money. in the meantime china is eating our lunch. he said that before the election. and he won the election. and people knew exactly where he stood on this people should give the donald trump some room to make good on his promises. in the environment community though, mara, the trump nomination so far, the scott pruitt for e.p.a. administrator and rick perry for energy secretary they frankly scare people. they do. the environmental community takes him at his word. he doesn t believe co 2 emissions have anything to do with global warning emissions at all.
and scott pruitt seems to aagree with him. i don t know about rick perry on that particular question it sounds like if that s the case, even though donald trump has also sent conflicting signals he says he has an open mind. i think at some point you have to either decide to accept the 99% consensus of scientists that man contributes to it or not and the paris climate accord and what he wants to do. i think you can still be for all the above energy policy and also want to do something about global warming. is there a nuances position in between that you want to do something but you don t want it to kill american businesses? yeah. and that s a policy disagreement. i think everyone should be in favor of political noninterference when it comes to science. but the problem that i have is that this often is attacked as a phenomenon that only occurs in one direction. it s those right wing denialist who are minting thingmintmanipulating things. when the left does it do it
pretty frequently when it fits their agenda whether on pipelines or things like that. i would commend to our viewers a really good wall street journal op-ed earlier this month by a scientist by the university of colorado it was entitled my unhappy life as a climate haiherheretic. he believes in the carbon tax and supports that remedy for the problem that he sees. his one heresy was he doesn t believe that climate change contributes to an increase in severe weather events. and for that sin, that thought crime based on evidence that he saw, he has been shunned and shamed and, in fact, called out by the obama white house. so this does happen on both ends. and let s not pretend otherwise. right. let s be clear, steve, that the left for all the talk about being open and transparent and free-thinking and lots of thoughts out there, this is strict. if you are not this way
100 percent, you are out in the cold, pardon the pun. that s exactly right. what it does is have the effect of foreclosing debate. if it s the case that the science is so clear and that anybody who denied or even raises questions would be immediately exposed as an idiot, they should welcome the debate. too often what they do is they use these names, the denialist to foreclose the debate. that s exactly the wrong thing to do. you see it from the left quite a bit. that said, the trump administration, i think, shouldn t have sent this questionnaire. they were smart to disavow it because it looks there like they are trying to foreclose debate. his talk about this. the president-elect has evolved from candidate to president-elect. take a listen. i think it s a big scam for a lot of people to make a lot of money. in the meantime, china is eating our lunch because they don t partake in all of the rules and regulations that we do. where are you on the environment? i m still open-minded.
nobody really knows. so people jumped on him after he said the open-minded thing. but then he turned around and invited al gore and leo decaprio into trump tower to talk to him and everything and then picked rick perry. that doesn t mean he isn t pt pruitt. bill gates has people pulling their hair out that he said. this. in the same way that president kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, i think that whether it s education or stopping epidemics, there can be a very upbeat message that his administration is going to organize things, get rid of regular go tore barriers and have american leadership through innovation. reference jfk there. he has a big fund on this. he is starting big, big investments into energy innovation. that is it for the panel.
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