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on our house in terms of what we will end up doing to our fellow human being. >> if you think of a scale, on one side of the scale it's like the current situation in venezuela, which is quite dire, as it is in cuba, what would we do to even the scales, to get to a point where what we were doing produced an equal amount of desperation. >> yes. >> it's unthinkable. >> a quarter of venezuela's gone. staggering, thank you my friend, as always. thanks to at-home for joining us this hour. on november 4th of 2008, america elected its first black president. senator john mccain had called sen...

come. those were then-candidate joe biden's words to asylum seekers in 2019 as he slammed his opponent donald trump's immigration policies. today thousands of migrants waiting for their chance to cross the border are trying to heed that call. in the hours since title 42 was lifted we have seen an orderly processing mostly despite warning from the white house that the first few days could get chaotic. we are live in el paso and in san diego where many who have been in limbo waiting for months have now finally gotten through. the question is next where do they go now, and while the num...

andrew weissmann joins us to. he would have been great on that stage. it is not his normal form, but, it needed a courtroom approach. a more persei's, targeted question, then many of the questions we got. so, we will try to see, and we might have some suggestions. >> i would like to see andrew weissmann versus trump, but i would like to see it in a courtroom. that is another matter, for another day. i will be watching, lawrence. >> i think cnn did the best they could, it using conventional tools, and we kind of knew ahead of time that conventional tools don't work. i only hope that t...

disclosure to be -- which would be the first public acknowledgment that he's running for president. nbc's vaughn -- is in des moines, or trump ahold a campaign rally tonight. vaughn, trump, anyone's team, are they saying anything about this new development that desantis is looking increasingly poised to jump in? >> look, it's no coincidence that donald trump is here in iowa. rhonda santas was the first one scheduled to be here. sort of ensue see the end cedar rapids. guess who decide to hold one of his traditional maga rallies, donald trump. here in the heart of des moines, in the ce...

i think i said this and someone earlier today, it's a donald trump method. we're whatever vile nonsense appears in your replies, is the fact of the matter. >> right. when the method begins with the with it will get with whatever vile nonsense, you're onto a winner. thanks to you for joining us this evening. it's that time of year when your books come out. everybody gets to pour over pictures of their classmates and quietly judge their haircuts in their senior quotes. these kind of photos are like time capsules in a decade to get to look back and remember when certain classmate seemed...