now new tariffs that might ultimately ignite a trade war. the president has ignored the advice of most of business leaders. if you are thinking this president hasn t really thought this through very well? that s how it happened. jesse: but the tariffs were just a bargaining chip and they worked. president trump: this week we secured a wonderful deal with south korea. we had a deal that was a horror show. it was going to produce 200,000 jobs and i d did for them. she was right, but it was for them, not for us. jesse: south korea doubled the amount of american cars they will allow to be sold in their country. this in exchange for trump temporarily dropping the threat of steel tariffs. the washington post reported it marks the first successful renegotiation of a trade deal for the trump administration. that line was buried at the bottom of the story, not even worthy of a headline. little rocket man traveled to beijing for constructive talks with his puppet master. america and north korea are now hopefully on the cusp of talks. president trump: certainly the rhetoric has calmed down just a little bit. would you say? we ll see how it all turns out. maybe it will be good and maybe it won t. jesse: more good news for the american worker at home as a result of tax and regulation cutting. americans applying for unemployment fell to the lowest rate since 1973. remember what the media said the trump tax cut wouldn t help the little guy? mcdonald s just announced it will send $150 million on college education thanks to the tax cut. so when you hear the press criticize trump s unconventional style, pause a minute and let the results speak for themselves. mark levin will be here litter but first i want to bring in ed henry. what do you think of that brilliant commentary? posturing. now you have this dictator in north korea on bended knee saying i am going to talk to the u.s. president. i m going to get object a train and go to china and show my face in another country for the first time ever. jesse: i want to talk to you about hillary. she is back at it and giving a speech at rutgers university. made a little news. let s hear it. the election was pretty traumatic. a lot of angst and second guessing and finger pointing. oh, my god, did you see how shrill she was? i took a lot of long walks in the wood and drank my share of chardonnay. people said to me go away, go away. they never said that to any man who wasn t elected. i m committed to speaking out and doing what i can to have a voice in the debate about where our country is going. jesse: they never said that to a man, go away? al gore went away and people were happy about that. ed: there are actual women who are democrats telling her 0 go away. claire mccaskill in missouri. they said hillary, get off the stage. why are they saying that? they are tired of her, number one, but these are democrats who are vulnerable in missouri and north dakota. and it reveals truth about the president. in the states like missouri and north dakota, he s a lot more popular than democrats want to admit. jesse: remember al gore, it s the economy, stupid from james carville. al gore took some years off and made some money and grew a beard and didn t get involved in the bedates that were happening. ed: mitt romney we saw at a taco bell and pumping his own gas. jesse: you don t even pump your own gas. ed: you no who has become hillary clinton? nancy pelosi. jesse: someone else not leaving the stage, roseanne barr returning to the stage after 20 years with a smash hit on abc. how could you have voted for him? he talked about jobs, he said he would shake things up. this might come as a complete shock to you, but we almost lost our house because of the way things are going. have you looked at the news? things are worse. not on the real news. jackie things every girl should grow up to be president even if they are a liar liar pants on fire. everybody this is the first dinner we have had as a family inning a long time. let s survive it. jky please protect gina and all the troops overseas, but most of all, lord, thank you for making america great again. jesse: abc caused out a safe space for viewers. the real heartland of the country. did you expect this? ed: not at all. that was the fact that tulsa and cities like that. this was off the charts. what this show is doing is what donald trump did, talking to the forgotten man and woman in tulsa and kansas city. jesse: and there are 18 million forgotten women. the inspector general investigating whether power was abused when the fisa court approved spying on the trump campaign. carter page joins me now in a fox exclusive. what is going on with you. everyone is talking about carter page. they opened up the surveillance because of you, and no one knows who you are. who is carter page? that s the beauty of it. that s how they were able to get so much taken care of because they had a blank slate. it s easier to paint a picture against me than a russian billionaire. jesse: they accused you of being some kind of moscow lover. but continue butt kisser and putin butt kisser. they say you are going to russia and talking to the powers that be. is that true? i have been doing deals in moscow for a decade and a half. jesse: trying to make money? i m also a foreign policy scholar. i have written a lot about russia. i did my ph.d on central asia. jesse: so you know about the country and you are over there trying to make deals and giving speeches. and they open up surveillance on you because they think you are doing something illegal and colluding with the russians. similar to the iraq situation back in the early 2000s, if you have fake intelligence and you are able to sell that to the congress and the american people, then one thing leads to another and you have a nice little conflict. jesse: they are investigating the abuse of the fisa court. they presented a dossier that was salacious and unverified. that s a crime, you are not allowed to do that. the white house chief of staff was involved in pushing the investigation forward with the fbi counter-intelligence people. and harry reid was involved and briefed by the cia director and wrote a letter to james comey urging the opening of the investigation. when you were being surveilled, were you talking to donald trump and people in the campaign? i have never spoken to donald trump in my entire life. jesse: that s huge news. the way the media spins it, you are a central figure. they approved my fisa warrant october 1, 016. the following friday i sent a letter to the organization of security and cooperation in vienna protesting the election abuse in terms of violations of human rights and a lot of the steps. jesse: you sent a letter. and i forwarded a copy of that on to several of the people in the campaign. jesse: that was the extent of it? jesse: they charged you with a crime. they are saying jesse: did you know you were being surveilled? did you get a 6th sense thinking this is fishy? there are a lot of people leaking about this and that give me a significant suspicion. jesse: did you change your behavior after you sensed you were under surveillance? i have never done anything wrong in russia for the last 25, 27 years. jesse: they are saying you are talking to russians at the republican convention in the summer of 2016. is that true? there were a lot of diplomats at that conference at case western reserve university. i said hello to ambassador kislyak. jesse: you are under the microstop. do you feel guilty for being part of this surveillance that led to a special prosecutor? i feel guilty that i didn t fight back harder when this first started 45 days before the election when the fake news stories started coming out defaming me. part of me feels bad i didn t do more to stand up for my rights. a lot of things i was doing such many billions of dollars on this, they should be responsible for this. jesse: you have gotten your reputation thrown into the gutter. the trump campaign has tried to disavow you. you understand that, naturally. i would, too, if i were them. this entire escapade has embarrassed the country. do you feel at all guilty for giving these enemies of the president this kind of ammunition to use against them? no, i feel guilty that i did not fight back to get the truth out there earlier. the beauty of the last couple months since the house intelligence committee and others, senate judiciary committee have been showing what really happened in terms of election interest force, operatives in washington, that has done a lot to help set the record straight. as more information comes out. jesse: you wouldn t have changed of any your behavior leading up to the election. i can t imagine anything i could have done. jesse: you were an fbi informant at one time. you were helping the fbi nail down russian operatives working against this country. now they opened a surveillance probe into you as if you were a russian spy. it ties into this spy case in the u.k. where there is a lot of people taking steps or they are concerned people are attack an individual. what is going to happen with the russians? what were they doing to influence this situation? and i told them specifically, what we have now learned, i m sort of revealed as this individual helping the western power. and so who knows, i could have been at risk. but the funny thing about that is i never felt at risk and i was never concerned about anything along those lines. jesse: people think you are a weird guy. i m upset you are not wearing your famous hat. thank you very much. up next, the great mark levine. great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts. so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org. when this bell rings. .it starts a chain reaction. .that s heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. keeping the world of business connected and protected. that s the power of and. you have the director of the fbi, the deputy director of the fbi leak all over the place. the abuse of the fisa court. i have never heard of anything like this before. the problem right now is the fbi does all kinds of things to protect the people in this country domestic and foreign. you have had these bad cops, i call them, rogue top officials at the top of the fbi who have besmirched this agency. we need to help the agency get its reputation back. we need a commission to do that. an inspector general does a report. let s say he couples and condemns these people. what then? most of of them are already gone. we have a special counsel look for excuses why he exists. i here i here i can t think of a better situation where we have have a special counsel focused on the top levels of the fbi and the justice department. jesse: why has it taken so long for a second special counsel to be appointed? the drum beat has been growing the last couple weeks. what s taking so long? mark: not only should the attorney general quickly appoint a special counsel even those inspector general is doing his thing, on top of the inspector general. but the existing special counsel. paul manafort s lawyers filed papered in court raising the constitutionality of what s taking place with rosenstein and special counsel mueller. mueller keeps asking for his investigation to be expanded and rosenstein keeps expanding it. jeff sessions rekiewlsed himself on matter involving the campaign. rosenstein does not have the power outside of the recusal that sessions gave to expand mueller s investigation. he s not the attorney general when it comes to tax issues or whether someone failed to file as a foreign agent under the foreign acts act. rosenstein doesn t have the constitutional authority to be attorney general for all these other matters. jesse: we do know rosenstein was involved in signing off on the warrants that were in front of the fisa court because they kept on being renewed under james comey. there is a great piece out here now that shows the obama white house s fingerprints were all over this. we had harry reid talking to obama s cia director. and, is legitimizing the investigation backwards. mark: way saw underscores what i have been thinking. how is it possible when you have the fisa court application. the direct yoofort fbi involved. attorney general of the united states involved. the intelligence agencies involved. you have the national security advisor unmasking individuals. how in the hell is it possible if the only person on the face of the earth who don t know about this is barack obama? on top of this, the leaks were in the newspaper. you are telling me the president of the united states is sitting there saying, hey, all this stuff is swirling around him, swirling around his different departments and he s not briefed on it? i don t believe that for two seconds. jesse: he was supposed to be the smartest man in the room. wit was bad he read about it in the newspaper. he never had any culpability when there was a problem. you have little rock and the obama cia director cord tbhaight the senator from nevada, then you see leaks coming out about the investigation, and when that hits the press, those press reports were then used in the fisa application. it looks to me like this entire investigation was cooked up from the beginning in order to justify the surveillance. is that what you believe? i believe it was cooked up with the dossier, the clinton campaign and the dnc, and i believe reid was approached by brennan to apply present sure to push the investigation. all this stuff is going on under the radar. that s why you need a commission and the special counsel. we ll stick with the inspector general for now. but somebody outside the department i don t get my kicks with these special counsels, but there are times when that s absolutely necessary. top public officials who can sit down and figure out what the hell took place here and how to fix it. jesse: the inspector general can t compel certain people to come forward from the state department to testify or issue subpoenas. it s a step in the right direction, but in a way it s toothless. you have a show on sunday night, life, liberty and le strip. who do you have on? mark: ed meese. we ll talk about issues like this. the fisa court, what took place. and what he thinks is taking place with the fbi. he s quite the brilliant, wise gentleman. i was honored to be his chief of staff for so many years. we ll bring him on for a full hour and have a discussion. jesse: thank you very much, mr. levin. god bless. jesse: coming up, a classic watters world easter quiz. re-align yourself, with align. cleaning floors with a mop and bucket is a hassle, meaning you probably don t clean as often as you d like. for a quick and convenient clean, try swiffer wetjet. there s no heavy bucket, or mop to wring out, because the absorb and lock technology traps dirt and liquid inside the pad. it s safe to use on all finished surfaces tile, laminate and hardwood. and it prevents streaks and hazing better than a micro fiber strip mop, giving you a thorough clean the first time. for a convenient clean, try swiffer wetjet with a money back guarantee. brand power. helping you buy better. another bomb blast. a british soldier was also killed in the attack. jesse: the democratic party has become a joke literally. they are running clowns for congress. actual clowns. steve lowe is on the ticket in south carolina s congressional primary. steve joins me now. let s see what you got. you guys requested my wig and nose. this what i used to look like on the circus. put the nose on, all right. now i m a little bit in honor of the mass tires, a honor of the masters, a golf club balancing tip. years and years of practice. jesse: dent hurt yourself. don t hurt yourself. that s part of the risk in the circus. here we go. jesse: look at that. hold on. we are only halfway there. and we have the balance and jess wow! how about that! jesse: okay! you want to see a little bit of juggling. i m running in the fifth district. here we go. one more time. always the perfectionist. here we go. voilà. thank you very much. jesse: we are going to finish the rest of the interview thank you, steve. you will fit right in congress if you win with the rest of the clowns. it will be a smooth transition for you because the swamp is the circus. you are running as a democrat and your opponent will probably be a republican. trump won the district by 18 points. this looks like a long-shot. do you think you will win in south carolina running as a bernie sanders democrat? i got an email from a big trump supporter who told me he loved me. he said i don t like democrats. but he said i agree with you, we need to do something on healthcare and guns. he says he s not sure what. but he says you worked in the circus with lots of different people. you know how to get along with people. i think you may be able to break the logjam. mr. rogers went to dartmouth. jesse: if you win, you will be in nancy pelosi s caucus. will you caucus with nancy and vote how she wants you to vote? i think i can have a good influence on her, too. single payer healthcare jesse: you are a south carolina guy and it s deep red. and you want to run and single payer healthcare. do you think that s a winning ticket? yes, because conservatives get sick and go bankrupt, too. my whole thing is i think ebb should be able to go to the doctor. jesse: obamacare is halfway to single payer. you want to go all the way in and week afford that how? every other industrialized nation in the world does it that way. margaret thatcher was a big supporter of single payer healthcare. jesse: people who want real surgeries cross the bored and come down to america to get that. do you your things in south carolina. you have got some great tricks up your sleeve. i would love to see you win because i think it would shake thing up. i think i can win the pro mary antigen. i think i m good. jesse: we ll follow you. up next. diamond and silk on hillary clinton versus snooki. 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against the company of amazon and led a new somewhat baffling allegation against president obama. a side of himself that we and many others is going to be coming out. today, and on twitter we got a big dose of president trump uncut. here he was speaking about the u.s. military presence in syria which he announced last week that he wants to end. i want to get out. i want to bring our troops back home and start rebuilding our nation. we will have as of three months ago, $7 trillion in the middle east over the last 17 years. we get nothing, nothing out of it. and as you remember, in civilian life for years, i said keep the oil. we didn t keep the oil. who got the oil? isis. that is what funded their campaign. they took a lot of the oil. and we should have kept the oil then. we didn t keep the oil. the united states didn t keep the oil or take the oil which is the word mr. trump used to use on the campaign trail. didn t take the oil because among other reasons that is called plunder and pretty much went out with genghis khan. the issue is this seems to be news to senior national security officials even though it has been several days since he first broached the idea. at almost the same promomoment the president said it. this was said. our mission isn t over and we are going to complete that mission. the president also spoke today about nato something his three baltic guests count on to determine his three russian occupiers. which made it awkward when the president turned to another theme. nato was delinquent. not paying their bills. not paying what they should be paying. since i came in, many additional dollars have been paid by countries that weren t paying. and they are going to have to pay more. the president has long spoken as if he believes nato is a dues paying nation. if it is member nation defense spending, there is a nato guideline on that. and the baltics sharply decreased that. and for accuracy sake, they started before. we have been tough on russia, and nobody has been tougher on russia. nobody has been tougher on russia than i have. nobody tougher on russia. once again, keeping them honest, this president would be correct in saying no president has been tougher on russia in the last couple of weeks. he has joined nato in expelling russia personnel. he did not however lead the way. and shortly before the expulsion mr. trump congratulated putin on winning an election. be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched as an tack by the soviet union on the united states requiring a full retaliatory response upon the soviet union. mr. gorbachev, tear down these walls. has president trump been tougher than that, tougher than president truman. it wasn t the only hyperbole, the president said this about the border with mexico. it is like we had no border because we had obama make changes that basically created no border. called catch and release. you catch them, you register them and they go into our country. we can t throw them out and in many cases they shouldn t be here. many, many cases they shouldn t be here. and after they get whatever happens over the next two or three years, they are supposed to come back to court. almost nobody comes back to court. they are in our country. and we can t do anything about it because the laws that were created by democrats are so path etic and weak. lack of space in detention fitzs and republicans say loopholes in state law. when you take a look at the post office, you take a look at the post office and the post office is losing billions of dollars and the taxpayers are paying for that money because it delivers packages for amazon at a very below cost and that is not fair to the united states. it is not fair to our taxpayers. now, keeping him honest on that, if the president has a beef with amazon, he should leave the post office out of it. now, here is another fact that might be relevant, amazon founder jeff bezos also owned the washington post which the president also despises. sending the stock market into large gyrations. he took yet another shot at hillary clinton and tweeted this in reaction to some new polling. thank you to rasmussen for new polling. not sure what kind of cheatin he was referring to. mr. trump repeated his call today to send troops to the southern border. in speaking with general mattis, we are going to be doing things militarily until we have a wall. it is a big step. jim acosta was in the room for much of it and he joins us now. reporter: the version of the president that we saw today is this part of a bigger shift in who he is listening to? it is hard to tell. he was in mar-a-lago yesterday. seemed to be guiding his white hot immigration comments that are coming into this week. the president did have a national security meeting with top officials including chief of staff and defense secretary. within the last hour who says that the trump administration does have a working number of national guard troops that they want to deploy to the southern border. they are not releasing that number at this point. waiting on the white house to make the announcement. they are looking into operation jump start which is something that happened during the bush administration when george w. bush deployed national guards to help down there. he is also harkening back to the bush administration to try to find a solution he likes on the border. i think it was 2006 the national guard troops were sent down and there to help on clerical things not stopping people from coming into the united states. the idea is to help free up border patrol. they were do other tasks that did free up border patrol agents. and the president was talking about this, and we should point out that not only did president bush do this, but president obama did this as well. aides you are talking about in the west wing, what are they seeing now from the president. reporter: i have been taking to aides who are still looking at clarity on this syria issue. the president last week made this stunning announcement that he is willing to pull troops out. i talked to administration official saying there is no clarity on that. we do know that the president was essentially contradicting his own envoy to the battle on isis. in real team as the president was speaking to this news conference, bret mcguirk at almost the same moment saying united states is not going to leave until the fight is finished. so he is confusing people, and also contradicting top officials like bret mcguirk who are looked to around the world for guidance in what the president is doing. i appreciate it. the panel ways on all of this shortly. coming up tonight what could be breaking news. new reporter on what robert mueller told the president s lawyer on whether the president is or is not a i can do more to lower my a1c. because my body can still make its own insulin. and i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like it s supposed to. trulicity 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is this the unrestrained version of him or less restrained version. i think this is the president now who has been talking to friends and i have talked to some of his friends that he feels like he knows how to do this job and has it under control. he has said publicly, that i am close to getting the cabinet i want. he is looking to people who he is comfortable with. the people who show up in his living quarters night after night from fox news. and those are the people he is consulting as well as his own instincts. he told one friend, i got this. i know how to do this. you are seeing things not only on policy as jim acosta is talking about such as troops at the border or withdrawal from syria. and then he is also playing games with people like he did with general mcmaster on his future and like he may be doing with peruit. and maybe on general kelly. and i think this is the real donald trump and i think we are going to keep seeing him. david, the notion that the president has reembraced the idea that he is his own best advisor, i am wondering if you think that is going to serve him well? no. presidents no matter how much experience they have need a stabilizing forces around them. they need someone there who can look them in the eye and tell them you are full of it or you need to hear the other side of the story. you may be hearing the fox version of the truth, about you if you consider there may be other ways to think about that and presidents need that. so i think it is a mistake. i do think and what i am told is there were three heavy weights who were the stabilizing forces and two are gone. ga gary cohen, and h.r. mcmaster. and the third is general kelly. and so you have a trump who is unleashed on his own volition. and fox news has become even more important in his mind. almost like people who work for fox are his advisors. sean hannity playing golf and the like. what we are seeing is a new chapter in the trump presidency. and what we don t know if the people coming in, kudlow, or bolton, whether they are going to be stabilizing forces or play to his instinct. gloria, there was this interesting moment in the luncheon, the president tried to get the president of estonia to praise him. three presidents told me that nato is taking in a tremendous amount of money because of donald trump. that would have never happened. you may want to say that. would you like to say that madam president? that donald trump made a difference. very risky question. well, he is kind of used to getting that from his own cabinet as we saw in a couple of those dear leader cabinet meetings. he likes to get praise and the lithuanian president was honest when he said she said at one point that there was kind of unpredictable leadership. and that at some point, and we want, and she kind of moved, they moved around it and said but we still need leadership from president trump. so there is a sense in the baltics that they want a president to be more predictable. and they went in there with a mission trying to get a straight answer identiout of him. i want to say, most disturbing part of the news to me today was this notion that he wants to now send troops to the border. it is true that two past presidents have deployed national guard to the border and it was because there was pressing need. there is no pressing need. this is more of a political move here. he sees the military as a play toy. first he wants to have this massive parade. you know, he wanted to take money out of the military budget and pay for the wall and now he wants to send troops to the border. there is no real reason to send troops to the border other than to make political points. and to satisfy fox. they are not supposed to be used for law enforcement anyway. gloria, to david s point, it doesn t seem to be a coincidence that this idea that he now has sending the military, by the military, the national guard because you can t send active service full time, inside the united states. but it can t be a coincidence that it comes now after he received criticism from some of the folks he has listened to according to the reporting has raised issues that maybe his base thinks he is weakening on immigration. yeah. you can look at this, he invited the fox green room to mar-a-lago over the weekend. and this is a president who is concerned more than anything about pleasing his base. and so what we are hearing from him are base sweeteners and he is going to build a wall. he is going to send troops to the border. he is going to with draw from syria because we won the war against isis. and so i think, you know, it is kind of he has become the echo chamber to these people. gloria borger, david gergen, i appreciate it. whether the president is or is not a criminal target in robert mueller s probe. we will tell you what they were told when we come back. a place with flexible fmeal plans.e .and 24-hour room service a place where seniors get the care they need in the comfort of 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but who may or not be charged. trump is a subject. and i don t think that is particularly good news for him. it is a big deal to be under criminal investigation by the fbi particularly if the you are the president of the united states. this has been implicit in what the mueller investigation has been doing. but this confirm aiation, that president is under criminal investigation, that is a profound thing to think about. carrie, according to the washington post reporting some have told him that is part of the danger of sitting down for an interview, that you can go from being a subject to a target quickly. one could depending on the outcome of the interview. being a subject, they shouldn t cracking open any champagne in the white house. there is certainly risk of him sitting down for an interview although it is difficult at this point to see a path forward for this investigation both in terms of its look at the russian influence on the election and any potential cooperation or knowledge on behalf of the campaign and the obstruction piece, it is hard to see how it will conclude without the president at some point being interviewed by the investigative team. well, in a normal circumstance, a subject would simply take the fifth. most lawyers would advise the subject of an investigation don t talk under any circumstances. the question is can the president of the united states take the fifth. i think he can. i think he can denounce the investigation and say this is a witch hunt, i am not participating. i think it is entirely possible he will refuse this interview. carrie, according to the reporting, mueller is still pushing hard to interview president trump to both determine if the president had corrupt intent and that is why he feels this interview is important. that he needs to figure out the intent behind mr. trump s accuracies. the specific, the intent that he personally had is important to that investigation because it is actions that he took, statements that he took over the course of a year that potentially could put together a case for obstruction. on that piece in particular, he probably has the most exposure but also his statements or what he has to say about his intent is also the most relevant to that piece of the investigation. jeff, you heard, i heard you earlier talking today, i heard you talking about some of the developments today led you to think it very possible that paul manafort might try to get a plea agreement. well i thought that for a long time. he is in desperate legal trouble. now that his right hand man, gates has pleaded guilty and cooperate against him, i think his case is nearly indefensible. it will take millions of dollars to prepare. he is nearly 70-years old and looking at a sentence that could leave him in prison for the rest of his life. the judge is being asked by manafort s lawyer throw the case out because mueller doesn t have the jurisdiction. mueller s brief makes a good case that he does have jurisdiction. carrie, mueller is required to report his conclusions to the deputy attorney general rosenstein. and it basically says he has been checking in with rosenstein all the way. rosenstein has been clear in his public statements and testimony before congress that he has been conducting active oversights in the investigation. confirms that oversight that he has been conducting. but on the issue of a report, this is really a question that myself and other observers of this case have been trying to figure out. what type of report might get filed? the regulations don t require what we might think of as a white water style report or what we might see in a congressional type of investigation. a narrative explanatory document that is meant for public consumption. nothing in the regulations that might require that. what might happen is the investigative team, they could write a report or could write prosecutetive memos and submit those to rosenstein. and then it is up to him whether or not to make those reports in whatever format they take place whether or not they make them public. appreciate it. just ahead, president trump delivers another surprise today this time saying he wants american military troops to help protect the mexican border until his promised wall is built. we will show you more on the details of how that might work ahead. the 3-pointer changed the game. and so does this. the new 3-point rib bloom, only $12.99. signature barbecue ribs and cheese fries on top of our bloomin onion. available for a limited time. outback steakhouse. aussie rules. we re on the move. hey rick, all good? oh yeah, we re good. we re good. terminix. defenders of home. what guides me is ensuring that the public is going to be safer and that these forests can be sustained and enjoyed by the community in the future. during that meeting with the heads of the baltic states today, the president said that he is asking the military to guard the border at least until the border wall is built. we are going to be doing things militarily until we can have a wall, we are going to be guarding our border with the military. that is a big step. at that same meeting, the president couldn t resist a shot at hillary clinton. with all of that being said, because of me, and you can speak to the head of nato, he said that because of what i have said to the countries, they have taken in, general, i think you will confirm this too, many billions of dollars more than they would have had if you had crooked hillary clinton as president. that i can tell you. many billions of dollars more. joining now by wesley clark who is nato s former supreme commander. and by mark hurtling. general clark, i wonder what you make of the president s comments. what went through your mind when you heard him say that today. well, first, anderson, these countries have all paid their debts to nato. what we have tried to explain for years to president trump but he doesn t want to hear is how much money they have been spending on their own defense. what nato wants is consistent, strong, reliable leadership. nato is our organization. it is not something that pays us to be over there. we are not mercenaries. nato is the glue that holds the united states and europe together. the bedrock of security. carried us through the cold war, the post cold war and we need this more than ever. the president talked about the amount of money needed and who was paying what amount. but what he didn t talk about is the strength of the alliance. working with the partners from the baltics they are unbelievably strong in their support not only for us as a country but for us in combat operations. the special operation forces were with us in both iraq and afghanistan. i had a lithuanian soldier who was killed under my command in northern iraq. these people have given more than funds. the president is confused about this. they are not contributing any money to any pot. they are spending a percentage of their gdp on their own defense funds. for him to say billions of dollars more has been allocated isn t true. it is a narrative that has been false across the board. the president was not very specific today in terms of what he meant. he talked about them guarding the border, but my understanding is what was done under president bush as well as president obama, is that it will be national guard troops and they will not be standing shoulder to shoulder preventing people from coming over. that is right. they are support troops, national guard. we don t know what president trump has in mind. but whatever he has in mind doesn t seem to be justified by anything about the political opinion. apparent pressure on the border has declined. record deportations run. so by all, short of objective measures, situations on the border seem to be better than it ever has been. so we don t understand stand this in terms other than political. the united states military is under resource. we are behind and spent 15 years in the middle east. we weren t going on up against peer competitors. a huge technological disadvantage. meanwhile, russia, and maybe china has invested. and we are on the catch up mode to this. and got to get our forces. so i look at it as a diversion of resources that is unnecessary militarily. might be necessary for president trump to do it politically. general hurtling, does it concern you that a president would be using military forces, the national guard for political objectives that he feels he is under pressure that his base doesn t feel he has done enough on immigration and not getting the border wall funding that he wanted and he would be sending troops for political purposes. factually, he can do that. at any given time, any federal agency can request u.s. forces and truthfully right now we have active duty forces right on the border and a variety of other places who are running things like airo stats and uavs in order to watch illegal immigrants coming across the border and feeding 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for extensive use of first-class air travel and staying in luxury hotels all on the taxpayers dime. what an exciting day. reporter: and he s come under scrutiny for giving some aides substantial raises even after the white house said no. where s scott? reporter: so how has he kept his position this long? we have the right man with scott pruitt. reporter: the president promised massive cuts to environmental regulations and pruitt has been the hatchet man. the future ain t what it used to be at the epa. reporter: the secretary has promised to simultaneously step up enforcement while pruning federal regulations around air pollution, superfund cleanups, drinking water, and climate change. i believe that we as an agency and we as a nation can be both pro-energy and jobs and pro-environment, that we don t have to choose between the two. he has met far more often with industry bosses than with environmentali environmentalists. he s praised budget cuts to his own department while pushing for states to take more control over environmental rules. and time and again, especially in the area of global climate change, he has called for the reversal of obama-era rules. i am determining that those standards are inappropriate and should be revised. [ applause ] reporter: and even as conservationists have howled, pruitt has praised donald trump s vision, even on the biggest matters like pulling america out of the paris climate accord. today you ve put america first with regard to international agreements and the environment. reporter: but pruitt s problems are now clearly reflecting badly on the white house, and trump has shown some sensitivity to that sort of thing in the past. so political pundits are wondering if the hatchet man is himself about to get the ax. anderson? tom foreman, thanks very much. joining me now is someone who knows a great deal about the epa. former administrator christine todd whitman. thanks for being with us, governor. i m wondering with these allegations against pruitt, would he be in office still if he worked for a different president? i don t think there s any way. frankly if i were he, i would be preparing my résume, making it look as if this was going to be my decision to leave because i cannot see how he survives this. the president doesn t like members of his cabinet getting, aer more press than he does, and, b, to be under scrutiny like this. i m not sure he s long for this world. the flip side of it, as tom foreman pointed out, in terms of the president s agenda, he is following what the president wants and whether one agrees with it or not, has been very effective in that at the epa. absolutely. there s no question about it. but there are others who can do that job. as a cabinet member, your job is to do what the president wants you to do. i mean you re not the one who was elected to anything. you re appointed and you re there to give your best advice to the president and to push back if you think he s making a mistake. but once that decision is made, you salute and you carry it out. in this instance, i happen to think scott pruitt believes absolutely in what he s doing too, which makes it very easy for him to roll back all the progress that we ve made in keeping people safe and healthy and protecting our environment. do you see this as part of a bigger issue when it comes to some of the president s cabinet? i mean, you know, you had obviously secretary carson with the issue of the $30,000 table and a dining room set. secretary price was fired for using his use of private planes. others as well. well, there seems to be a tone deafness about what s appropriate and what isn t, especially when you re talking about taxpayers dollars and what looks right and what doesn t. for scott pruitt, i don t care if he was paying $50 or $500 a night for his room, but you just don t as the head of an agency accept something like that, particularly when you re getting a good deal, but you still wouldn t do it anyway with someone who has business before the agency, who is lobbying before the agency. you wouldn t even take meetings with them if you had an active case with them or something that they were lobbying you hard on. you just shouldn t do that. not the administrator. others. they can meet with others, but not with the administrator. particularly when the president has made a point of during the campaign, talking about draining the swamp, this does seem to be down in the muck. i would say so. it is very swampy, and it s a shame because that s an agency whose sole duty is to protect human health and the environment. it is not to promote certain forms of energy. it s to encourage alternate fuels if they re cleaner. it s to encourage cleaner things, things that will keep us healthier. for instance, rolling back these tailpipe standards makes no senls. most of the car companies have already allowed for it. they re ready for it. they ve started to move in that direction. many of the utilities are encouraging carmakers to go for the electric car because they see it as a way to keep their demand up for electricity. and we know that some 300,000 people a year in this country die from dirty airborne-related causes. so when you talk about rolling back and cars are the major source of that, more so even than energy utilities of dirty air. so it s endangering people s health without doing much, frankly, if anything at all, for the major car companies and jobs. governor whitman, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. no problem. coming up, more on tonight s breaking news in the washington post about what robert mueller told the president s lawyers just last month about whether the president himself is a criminal target in the investigation. we ll have the latest on that next. hey, what are you guys doing here? we ve been helping you prepare and invest for retirement since day one. why would we leave now? because i m retired now. so? we re voya. we stay with you to and through retirement. with solutions to help provide income throughout. so you ll still be here to help me make smart choices? well, with your finances that is.
The latest news from around the world with Victor Blackwell and Christi Paul. remains of americans killed in the korean war, none of it is gaining tracks trump thinks it deserves because he is back in the position of being on defense when it comes to russia, and his legal team is going after michael cohen now, a man trump recently was defending because the narrative surrounding the infamous trump tower meeting with donald trump jr. are now being shifted. lynn, let s talk about the economy. there are some numbers coming in this week from some of the states, one michigan, one, minnesota talking about how much support he does or does not have. michigan, 36% approval, 56 disapproval. minnesota the same, mid to upper 30s for approval, disapproval at 50 or below or above i should say. when you look at the numbers, you look at the midwest and then look at the numbers that came in for the economy, there s no way i should say anything i say here is not testimony. i used to represent mr. gates. looking at the witnesses, you can tell they re day-to-day operational people for the most part. those kinds of witnesses are very much crucial to showing exactly how the transactions worked. for the productisecution there lot of transactions, they need to put on day to day people to show how the operation worked, to show how the transactions occurred. so this kind of detail, you pointed out this is a very complicated case, this would indicate then you re not going to have some ta-da moment, some grand reveal or could there be some? for the most part this is going to be a series of small reveals. the prosecution wants to show generally how things worked. i think there are two exceptions to that. the first is rick gates himself because he was a higher level person and partner of manafort s, and the other exception would be all the immunized witnesses. presumably the government is not going to offer immunity unless they think they have admissions of wrongdoing or guilt. that s why they got the immunity. similarly for rick, he was given a plea offer, already pled guilty, admitted to guilt. with those sorts of folks, you would expect more big reveal moments and possibly drama in the courtroom as well. it has been so long since this whole thing began. the outcome of the trial, does it have, could it impact the on-going investigation looking at russia and the president s problems? i think it will impact the president s problems and the overall probe in this way. it s a really, really important case for mueller s team. the first one out of the box. they really have to win it. if they don t, it will be a big problem for them. will certainly add ammunition for the president s team. this is one of two cases. it is a must win. if he loses the first one, almost no point going forward with the second one. i can t resist the opportunity to talk about michael cohen. wanted to try to get your insights into what exactly he is doing and the way he seems to be publicly retaliating against the man he said he would take a bullet for. he certainly seems to be sending a loud cry for attention and help. i think he does pose a great danger to trump because of the inside information. i think the latest tape we heard about is problematic in terms of the president s honesty, even more problematic is cohen s new claim that the president was aware of the trump tower meeting previously and certainly the person with the bulls eye on them is don jr., he testified under oath contrary to that. right. he is the one that very much could be caught up for a lie if that s in fact what it turns out to be. sham shan wu, thank you. no details have been shared how to improve election security, but politics reporter is with us and cnn national security analyst. thank you for being here. jeremy, i understand you would not want to give too much into a strategy because you toent wado to compromise information. do we know if there s in fact a solid plan to try to combat this? the concern we have been hearing from lawmakers for months is that there isn t one from the administration and that there s no one in charge of combatting russia s election hacking, whatever they re planning to do for 2018. intelligence officials testified they expect russia and have seen russia undergoing measures we saw in 2016. we learned senator claire mccaskill was the victim of attempted phishing attempts. the question is who is in charge. the meeting was the first time we saw the white house bringing people together. for lawmakers, it is not enough, not soon enough. do we know if there s an end date for which they hope to have something solidified, something crafted, and what might be the obstacles keeping them from doing so? it is a fair question. we haven t heard they re going to produce anything this concrete. it is democrats but also republicans that say this is an on-going threat, that the time to address this was already several months ago, that it is on-going. there was a report in new york times that russian hacker and election issues have been probing around with u.s. power grids. it shows that despite what we heard from the president about how he doesn t necessarily believe russia was behind election hacking is that they still, russian hackers are still targeting the u.s. and will continue to do so. sam, i wanted to ask you about a story on the front page of new york times, really interesting, about russian hackers that are more interested they say in disrupting the american electricity utility grid than addressing midterms. what does the u.s. know, is there a sense of the capabilities russia has to infiltrate and disrupt a u.s. grid system? christi, we have historical precedent as you know. russia hacked into ukraine s electricity grid several years ago and literally shut off the lights in the middle of winter. we know russia has the intent, they have the capability, and there s nothing off limits to the government of russia when it comes to u.s. infrastructure. we have reporting from the u.s. government and private companies like microsoft indicating that russia is targeting election infrastructure, electricity grids, hospitals, and private routers. russia is not only in public infrastructure, they re also in our homes. what this tells me is that vladimir putin has rightfully identified that cyber hackers are really efficient and cost effective way to create insecurity in the united states. i read something that said his entire cyber security budget is less than the cost of an f-35 jet. it doesn t cost him a lot of money to penetrate all of our systems and there s not much cost associated with him doing so in the sense that when you look at how we responded, we responded with targeted sanctions against the government of russia that really haven t caused him a lot of pain, so i don t really see how he has been deterred. while we work on defense and shoring up the defenses of our infrastructure, educating the public on how russia is hacking us, vladimir putin is finding work arounds, and until the administration deters him from this action, i am not confident the attacks will stop. how do you deter him? you deter him hitting him where it hurts, through sanctions but not ones as targeted as the ones to date. you look at how he reacted when president trump met with him in helsinki, he brought up michael mcfall, bill browder because he is so upset about the sanctions issued a few years ago that hit him where it hurts. i think we have to multi lateralize, have to raise the cost of him doing business around the world in places that matter to him like in europe, but that s going to be very difficult and will take concerted effort by the state department and treasury department to go to the uk, go to germany, say we know you liked doing business with russia, but he is wreaking havoc all around the world. thank you both so much for taking time for us today. thank you. migrant children in government custody have a new set of eyes watching out for their well-being. coming up, what we are learning about an independent monitor headed to the southern border. and a powerful figure in the catholic church stepped down. why the pope is accepting a prominent cardinal s resignation. and the family of a houston doctor say good-bye as police try to track down his killer. with amazing amenities like movie theaters, exercise rooms and swimming pools, public cafes, bars and bistros even pet care services. and there s never been an easier way to get great advice. a place for mom is a free service that pairs you with a local advisor to help you sort through your options and find a perfect place. a place for mom. you know your family we know senior living. together we ll make the right choice. 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reporter: no, there s not, martin, christi. 711. that s the number of immigrant children still in u.s. government custody, unsure when they ll be released. these children and their families have been deemed ineligible for reunification by the u.s. government for one reason or another. one of the reasons could be that the u.s. governent can t locate their parents, that their parents have already been released from i.c.e. custody. if that were the case in the rio grande valley, it is likely they would have passed through this bus terminal behind me onto the next destination. as more people are released from detention, we re hearing stories not just of the trauma these children and adults have speernls speern experienced due to the separation, but conditions and abuse suffered by some children. it is documented in police logs and calls and it was uncovered in a report friday saying police responded to at least 125 calls in the past five years alleging sex offenses. this happening in 70 of the 100 hhs, that s federal government run facilities that are housing the migrant children. it is important to note calls and logs they looked at date back to the obama administration, to 2014, very much predating president trump s administration and zero tolerance policy, but nevertheless disturbing to hear. at least 125 calls fielded alleging sex offenses. there were also allegations of fighting and missing children in the u.s. run government run facilities. now, hhs has responded to the claim saying, quote, our focus is always on safety and the best interest of each child. these are vulnerable children in difficult circumstances, hhs treats its responsibility for each child with the utmost care. the federal government saying they have a zero tolerance policy for sex abuse of children. that being said in the statement, hhs wasn t saying what they did to prevent any such thing from happening, but that they have zero tolerance for it. as i said, this documented police logs and calls, we re hearing about it from people released from the facilities, and a federal judge has heard about it, too, authorizing an independent monitor to report back to her conditions. there seems to be a disconnect, martin, christi, what the government says is happening in the facilities and what the immigrants that have come to this country are saying is happening as well. thanks to you, we ll stay on top of it, appreciate it greatly. thanks. immigration has been quite a focus for our next guest. joining us on the phone, new york governor cuomo, thank you for being with us. want to get your reaction to what you heard about this reporting from propublica, calls have come in in reports and logs of alleged sexual abuse of the children. well, it is obviously very, very disturbing and going back five years i would like to see the information, but i have no doubt that whatever terrible conditions existed, they ve only gotten worse because this was a mad scramble what this federal government did on the border. it was either gross incompetence or malicious. it was gross incompetence and the attorney general didn t tell the president of the united states that when you go to zero tolerance policy and you arrest parents, by federal law you have to separate the children. if the attorney general didn t tell the president that, then the attorney general should be fired frankly. if hhs secretary did not tell the president we don t have the capacity to take thousands of children in just a mere matter of days, we have no place to place them, we can t do it responsibly. if the hhs secretary didn t say that, then the hhs secretary should be fired. so it was either gross incompetence, or, and i m afraid this is the case, it was a purposeful manipulation that would make mack i don t see develop ee blush. the president said i want the wall at the border. when he didn t get the wall, he said fine, i will set up a gauntlet, put out a message to people if you come into this country, you re going to be subjected to all sorts of inhumane treatment. we re going to separate you from your children, we re going to send the children all over the country. we won t even be in a position to relocate them. this position that they have 700 children that they now can t reunify either because they deported the parents without reunifying the child first or the federal government made a decision that the parents are not good custodians of their children. on what basis did you take children from their parents? and that s why new york has a lawsuit. you can t just take the child from a parent and declare the parent is not a good custodian. they have due process rights, the children who are in new york are protected by new york law. you have to prove before a judge that a child is being abused or neglected before you can rip them from their mother s arms. so it is illegal, it is unconstitutional and unconscionable. governor cuomo, according to this report it goes back five years. you re right, there s a lot to see in terms of validity of all of it, with that said, we can t change the past. what is the remedy moving forward? what specifically is the state of new york doing to make sure this doesn t happen there? well, the way this has worked is the federal government has taken control of these children, placed them in a haphazard, chaotic way in care facilities across the country. some of the foster care facilities are in new york. they re then put under a gag order where the foster care facility can t even tell the state which regulates the foster care facility how many children they have or what the circumstances are. i said to the secretary of hhs let us help. let us help with the reunification, let us help getting services to these children. how can new york help? well, they have foster care facilities in this state. i could be providing services, counseling, et cetera. these are children traumatized. i could help with reunification. why wouldn t you let the states help if you actually cared about the children? why would you put these foster care facilities under a gag order? that s why i say it is either gross incompetence and the president should fire the lot of them or it is purposeful and they re trying to send a signal don t even think of crossing the border. there s no wall but there may as well be a wall because it is worse. if you come in here, you re going to be subjected to all sorts of inhumane abuse. i want to ask you about the news of the day. president trump s former fixer, michael cohen, has gone very public on his campaign to distance himself from the president. we know that cohen has some legal issues of his own in your state of course in the southern district court there, any concerns that what happens with cohen now with the mueller investigation will impact the case there in new york for him? well, i think mr. cohen is worried about mr. cohen right now, and what he s doing is saying to the prosecutors i want to play ball, whatever game of ball they want to play. i think the white house is losing sleep because when you have a person like mr. cohen who has been so close to the president for so long and who has made it clear that he is willing to allege anything, basically alleging perjury against don trump jr., they have to be going back and now wonder how many e-mails are there, how many pieces of paper does mr. cohen have, how many situations can he corroborate because it s not going to be just about the check or the cash, and that discussion on the tape. there are years of na fair yus acts that he performed for the president. they re saying he is hostile to the white house and pro-michael cohen, and looking to make a deal with prosecutors. let me ask you this. we had rudy guiliani on abc may 6th talking about mr. cohen saying the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. this past week on cnn he said i expected something like this from cohen, he has been lying all week or has been lying for years. who has more credence, guiliani or cohen? look, cohen, it may be very possible that cohen has been lying, yes. we know the president has been lying. what their fear has to be is not just credibility versus credibility but what does cohen have that is evidentiary, what e-mail does he have, what contract did he execute, what meeting can he corroborate with another witness. and these are years and years of transactions. and everyone believes that mr. cohen was the dirty deed player for the president. and who knows what he has that can be corroborated. it is not just going tobac b be cohen s credibility versus the president s, it is what evidence can cohen produce or corroborate, and i think it is a very, very bad sign for the white house. all right. governor andrew cuomo, appreciate you taking time to talk with us today. thank you so much. thank you for having me on your show. i m still waiting for invitation from one of your other shows. who might that be. we ll see what we can do. thank you so much, governor. thank you. sure. we ll be back in a moment. chicken?! chicken. chicken! that s right, candace new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat. mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! a book that you re ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! the news that dominated much of the week, the president denying knowledge of the 2016 trump tower meeting that promised dirt on hillary clinton. but sources say the former fixer michael cohen now says that trump is lying. a major flip for one of his biggest supporters. he is hanging on to economy to keep people preoccupied for the polls this fall. will it work for the republicans? will it work for democrats? we have two excellent guests to talk about that. brian robinson, strategist, and scott bolden, chair of national bar association. former dnc chairman. good morning. i don t know where to start. let me ask both of you what you think the prominence and impact is. scott, i ll start with you. cohen himself hasn t said it, we have information that tells us he is ready to tell the mueller probe that trump knew about the meeting in 2016. how big a deal? huge deal. as former prosecutor. i expect you to say that. despite my experience, right? i think it is a huge deal. he is an insider. he is a firsthand witness. prosecutors look for those people when they re prosecuting the mafia or anyone else. that s the first thing. second thing is, he has a ton of credibility because he is a firsthand witness, despite what rudy guiliani says. a week or two before the tape came out and cohen started to publicly say the president knew about this meeting and that meeting and the russian meeting, called him truthful and honorable. now he is a pathological liar. one thing i thought when i watched it on tv, said takes one to know one. corroboration is a big issue in regard to credibility with the government with mueller. we have to see. i expect democrats think it is a huge deal. i would think republicans don t. right. look, cohen had a tape before, that was explosive news last week, showed there was a difference between the public story and what was on the tape. you could hear the president s voice. you could hear the voice. this is different. there is no tape of him talking to michael cohen about any meeting with a russian representative. so i think they re going to have to if that s where the bar is, republicans didn t react too negatively to what they heard on the tape. the idea being that this lawyer who has gone rogue and is publicly saying he is going to defend himself, protect his own family, watch out for his own skin, his opinions, his story is going to be discounted by republican voters. let me tell you this real quick. before you do, i want to show you a poll. plays into clearly there s a difference of opinion, not just you two, we have seen it in how people are thinking about voting. here s a poll that shows you approval of the mueller probe has gone from 48% in march to 41% last month. so essentially it looks like a lot of people are saying they want this probe done or they re just over it themselves, and there s a danger here, especially for democrats if they keep forcing the issue because people just may get turned off, and that includes when they go to the polls. i don t think the democrats are forcing the issue, mueller is run by republicans. the republican doj, white house is cooperating, house and senate investigated this issue, several of these issues already. it is not that the dems are pushing the mueller investigation, they re pushing for it to be done and to not be attacked. the numbers reflect that donald trump and his followers in the gop continue to attack an investigation that has not been completed. but we have 30 some indictments that have come down the pike from the mueller investigation. this is no witch hunt. those numbers reflect what donald trump and the gop has been saying, and that s not credible. when you say that, what do you mean, the president has been criticized and the general public is buying into it? the general public bought into some of it. the gop has driven the narrative. they re driving the investigation. they had to approve it and the doj is a republican administration, driving the attack as a witch hunt. let s not forget. what is the mueller probe about? it is about proving collusion with russia. yet there s and protecting our elections. there s a steady drip drip drip of unsavory tidbits coming out of it. what has happened, paul manafort being indicted, has nothing to do with russia collusion, michael cohen talking about payments to a porn star, nothing to do with russian collusion. it is a slow, steady drip drip drip, but not backing up the original argument that the trump campaign colluded with the russians. this ties in a little more closely, talking about whether or not trump knew about the meeting. all of this is becoming noise because it has nothing to do with what started it. back to the witch hunt argument. no, it doesn t. let me tell you what the real deal is. it is not about collusion, it is about our being attacked by russia in regard to elections. and 30 indictments i m talking about are against russian oligarchs, 17 cia agents that said they attacked our demonstration, and another 12 or 13 of government russian officials who attacked our system and indicted as well. the gop rather or donald trump and his people, they have something like 50 plus, and many of them have lied which is why you have other pleas of guilty. there s a lot of smoke here. if there is a witch hunt, we caught a lot. the fire was during obama and they did nothing. thank you both for joining us this morning. good to see you again. thank you. also i should say police are looking for a man they believe murdered a houston doctor. now they re asking local construction workers for help. we ll explain why after this. to most people, i look like. .most people. but on the inside, i feel chronic, widespread pain. fibromyalgia may be invisible to others, but my pain is real. fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. i m glad my doctor prescribed lyrica. for some, lyrica delivers effective relief from moderate to even severe fibromyalgia pain, and improves function. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, swelling of hands, legs and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who ve had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain i can do more with my family. talk to your doctor today. see if lyrica can help. talk to your doctor today. i never thought i d say this but i found bladder leak underwear that s actually pretty. always discreet boutique. hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. so i feel protected and pretty. always discreet boutique. oh, look. another anti-wrinkle cream in no hurry to make anything happen. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair® works in just one week. with the fastest retinol formula available. it s clinically proven to work on fine lines and wrinkles. one week? 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right about that. earlier this morning the president of the united states publicly hounded nato s secretary-general, repeatedly disparaged germany and wondered aloud why america should be responsible for protecting europe against russia. vladimir putin wants donald trump to break from american allies. a few hours ago, that is exactly what he got. wow. welcome to morning joe. it is wednesday, july 11th. with us, msnbc contributor mike ba ba ba barniccal. and david ignatius, nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of kasie d.c. on msnbc, kasie hunt and former u.s. ambassador to nato and former state department spokesman nicholas burns, professor of diplomacy and international relations at the harvard kennedy school of government. great group to start with this morning, and, wow, what a start to the trip. what a start to the trip. and let s just play the clip. here s donald trump actually doing exactly what vladimir putin would want him to do. good morning. in many countries, they owe us a tremendous amount of money from many years back where they re delinquent, as far as i m concerned, because the united states has had to pay for them. if you go back 10 or 20 years add it all up. it s massive amounts of money that the united states has paid, and stepped up like nobody. this is gone on for decades, by the way. for many presidents. but no other president brought it up like i bring it up. the good news is that allies have started to give more to defense. after years, they ve started to add billions to this and defense spending, more in a generation. why was that, last year? also because of your leadership. because of your carried message. they won t write that. i think it s very sad when germany make as massive oil and gas deal with russia. where you re supposed to be guarding against russia and germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to russia. so we re protecting germany. we re protecting france. we re protecting all of these countries, and then numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with russia, where they re paying billions of dollars in to the coffers of russia. so we re supposed to protect you against russia, but they re paying billions of dollars to russia, and i think that s very inappropriate, and the former chancellor of germany is the head of the pipeline company that s supplying the gas. ultimately, germany will have almost 70% of their country controlled by russia with natural gas. so you tell me. is that i mean, i ve been compl about this from the time i got in. it should have never been allowed to have happened, but germany is totally controlled by russia. i think it s something that nato has to look at. i think it s very inappropriate. you and i agreed that it s inappropriate. and the 29 nations, there are sometimes differences, and different views and also some disagreements, and the gas and pipeline from russia to germany is the issue where allies disagree, but the strength is that despite the differences we have always been able to unite around to protect and defend each other, because we understand we are stronger together than apart. the two world wars under cold war and we are stronger together than apart. how can you be together when you know that. so this was supposed to be, just a photo op. the president wanted to make sure that he sent the message to vladimir putin while appearing to question energy shipments to russia, that he was actually doing everything he could to disrupt the nato summit from the start. and to also undermine america s alliance with nato. you could see, and mika pointed it out, mike pompeo looking down. as the president continued to badger and attack his hosts there. and in is so there is so many so many places to start. ronald reagan, during ronald reagan during a decade where he did more to bring down the soviet union than anybody would have ever expected continued to trade with the soviet union. donald trump is just, once again, ignorant of history. ignorant of diplomacy and of the very things that have gotten us to a position where we have a $19 trillion economy and by far the most powerful military and economic engine in the world. on the planet. david ignatius, if you listen to donald trump ramble on and on about what a bad partner nato was, and what a bad partner the eu was, you would, might be fooled in middle america, if you had pictures of donald trump on your wall. you might be fooled into believing that europe does absolutely nothing when it comes to defense. and, of course, after us not wanting germany to re-arm for quite some time, we now have a situation where the european union spends more money on military defense than does russia. they are an extraordinarily important, strategic ally of the united states of america against vladimir putin and his ambitions after he s invaded two countries in one decade. you would have no idea watching the president harang the nato secretary-general that today at this very minute there are nato forces fighting with the united states in afghanistan in a fight that we requested their help in, that they remain part of the coalition that s seeking to defeat isis. our terrorist ally. you would have no idea that that harang was directed at the people on whom we most depend for military support. that footage that you showed at the beginning of the show out to be nut a time capsule, because if people ask some day, how is it that the nato alliance, which was the centerpiece of american defense strategy for 70 years, began to unravel. you just look at an american president who arrives and the first thing he does a pick a fight with the very secretary-general, which, as you said, joe, the american support team, secretary of state pompeo and our ambassador to nato, kay bailey hutchinson looking on with what seemed to me a kind of silent horror. yep. at what was happening. what an extraordinary way to begin a summit with your friends and allies. well hard to imagine. it s hard to imagine. it would be if churchill and fdr got together, jon meacham, during world war ii, and fdr was badgering churchill for not spending the exact amount of money on outlays in 1944 and 1945 as the united states. the fact is, that along with russia, great britain was our closest ally, and here, again, we europe, again, for those in my family and my friends who support donald trump, for those who have ears to hear, hear. europe spends more money on national defense, on the defense of the eu than does russia. europe spends as much money on the defense of that continent as does china. they are a strong bulwark against russian aggression, and with donald trump going in and hypocritically attacking them, germany, for trading with russia, when all he has done for the past two years is talk about the need to build closer relationships with russia is is just so, such a transparent i m sure he thinks he s being clever, but it s a transparent way to carry out vladimir putin s deepest wish. which is, to undermine our alliance with nato. undercut a military strategic alliance that is like a dagger in the heart of putin s expansionist dreams. it s it s diabolical in that it almost manages to create as much chaos as possible. not really creative chaos, but create chaos, because, if you listen to that, you know, basically we have a president who sounds like the guy at the end of the bar who has a bee in his bonnet and on about his third or fourth beer. norm. yeah, norm is president. that s kind to norm. yeah. he s laying this out in a way that his base, many people in his base, will repeat, because he s saying it. a., like the idea he was sitting there talking to this guy with a funny accent. they re going to love that. he was telling him what all, and yet when you pull back and think about what he was talking about, the entire point of the modern era, as david was saying, as opposed to, really, the 20s, which led to the 30s, was, we engage. right. and you engage by, with a free flow of people and ideas and goods as much as possible, and what this administration has done is pretty much, it s against the free flow of people and ideas, unless they have them, and it s against the free flow of so, not norm. more like newman. mike barnicle, go ahead. and sitting there watching this extraordinary clip we witnessed, the public humiliation of the nato secretary-general by the president of the united states, it occurs to me and all of us on the set, how does it occur to you, this was the president of the united states speaking on a global stage intent only on talking about himself and what he felt rather than the common goals that nato has held for 70 years. well, mike, that s right, and frankly, it s just infuriating to watch this happen. you cannot imagine any american president all the way back 75 years deciding to become the critic and chief of nato. i mean, it s orwellian. he s making our friends out to be our enemies and treating our enemies like putin as our friends. and he s misrepresenting the facts. there have been four straight years of budget increases by every nato ally. the great majority of them will be at this magical 2% of gross domestic product level by 2024. all of our ability to project power in the world, in the middle east and afghanistan comes out of the air bases, ramstein, insulak, aviano, the naval bases in italy and spain that the europeans pay us for. $2.5 billion a year to keep our forces there. it would cost us more money to bring the troops home than to keep them in europe. so what is the point of this? it s all about politics, and the president s base. the not about the power of the united states. this incredible alliance that we ve built, every president from truman, it s infuriating to see this happen. it s diplomatic malpractice. exactly what it is. bring in nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. live in brussels, belgium. kristen what can you tell us? reporter: well, mika, we re already starting to get reaction to that extraordinary exchange that you all are talking about. germans defense minister essentially dismissing president trump s claim that it is a captainistic to russia saying, i think we can cope with it, meaning the criticism. also defending that deal that president trump was lashing out against saying, if we look at the gas pipeline, germany is an independent where energy supply is concerned we diversify, but the main over-arching topic is the summit. we want the summit that sends out the message of unity. of course, president trump sending out the exact opposite message. now, the secretary-general of nato also asked about the president s comments this morning, that extraordinary breakfast that he had with the president, and he said, look, there are going to be disagreements. that s a part of the deal at these international summits. mika, the extraordinary nature of what happened at that breakfast cannot be overstated. these summits are all about tone, all about the optics and on both of those fronts president trump was confrontational, really adding to the tensions here and the concerns that the united states won t be counted on as a part of this alliance, mika. and you ve been covering these for a long time. how does this compare? reporter: well, you think about the last summit, mika and president trump does not adhere to protocols. the moment he pushed the prime minister of montenegro, a group photo and he wanted to get a better position for the photo. so it s not unusual for him to break with the norms. this is something we deal with every day at the white house. but in the broader context of these summits. again, it s almost unprecedented you would have a public dispute spill out into the public view, and the timing of it is critical. it comes days before he s set to meet with russia s president vladimir putin. you already have nato allies very concerned that he s not going to be tough enough in that meeting with putin nap he. that he s not going to raise the issue of election meddling or invading crimea. a break with international law. concerns the international community has here. kristen welker, hard to believe he wasn t performing for vladimir putin given how kind of overt that was. meanwhile the senate overwhelmingly pass add non-binding motion reaffirms the commitment to the nato alliance. 97-2 vote came hours after the president landed in belgium. the measure was authored by ranking member of the senate armed services committee jack reed. the united states participates in nato, because we believe the transatlantic partnership is in the u.s. national security interest and not because other countries are paying us for protection. the motion reaffirms the u.s. commitment to nato as a community of shares values including liberty, human rights, democracy and the rule of law. in addition, it calls for the u.s. to pursue and integrated approach to strengthen european defense as part of a long-term strategy that uses all elements of u.s. national power to deter and if necessary defeat russian aggression. it also reiterates u.s. support for the rules-based international order and expending and enhancing alliances and partnerships. senators rand paul and mike lee were the only two to vote against the motion. ah, yeah. wow. okay. kasie hunt, that is the united states senate sending a strong message, as strong a message as possible to our nato allies as well as to vladimir putin. talking about russian aggression in that language, and also, you know, some of the republican senators that went over and were criticized for going over to russia actually, if you look at what was said in those meetings, there was confrontation about the russians interfering, meddling in our 2016 election. it seems the senate, at least, and some republicans in the senate, at least, is except for mike lee and rand paul, think it s a good idea to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with our european allies and speak out against russian aggression. reporter: joe, this reads to me like an attempt by the u.s. senate, republicans and democrats alike, to send a message to our nato allies that says, please, try not to worry so much. we promise we re going to keep the lights on for you. and that when we are, we have moved past this era, this is still something important to us. i think there were so many republican whose didn t want trump to get elected in the first place. they thought there would be a lot of problems and issues. i don t think any of them ever dreamed that it would be a serious question to ask, mitch mcconnell got the question yesterday. do you think this president will pull us out of nato? the house that we built. this is the western world that the united states of america built after the cold war, and it s been the bedrock for, you know, all of our foreign policy, but particularly on the republican side. reagan and the end of the cord war. the fact the vote happened at all, jack reed, a democrat. gave it to him, his counterpart obviously on the armed services committee, john mccain not here in washington, still battling brain cancer, but that is just an incredible signal and it comes from the top down. jon meacham, yes, it was the house that we built, nato. here s theresa may arriving. she has several things on her mind. one, of course, is the frail nature of her coalition in parliament with her shaggy haired foreign minister resigning a few days ago. also, of course, though, more importantly in our mind than meeting with donald trump is what every man, woman and child in england is thinking about today, and that is the 2:00 clash against croatia to get to the finals of the world cup, and if you think that i am being glib, you do not understand just what today s match means. and also, of course, belgium in a state of warning today after their loss to france yesterday. but kasie hunt talked about nato being the house that we built. and, again, the ignorance of donald trump and the ignorance of those who believe that he s somehow showing those europeans. hmm. uh-huh. showing them what real leadership is about, again only reveals an ignorance that the house that america built in europe, we built for our own selfish interest. we built to protect our military troops, to stop a third european world war from occurring in 30 years. we did it to build strong trade partners, and what happened? we built strong trade partners. we kept germany. we kept italy. we kept france. we kept a lot of countries out of stalin s grasp after world war ii. this along with the truman doctrine the marshall plan, one of america s greatest investments ever. forget about the niceties of democracy and freedom. yeah. we stand for that. just cold, hard cash. so when donald trump s playing businessman over there, he s being a fool and tearing down the foundation of america s $19 trillion economy. yeah. when fdr was dictating the for freedom speech, 1941. freedom from want, from fear he was listing, he said, we must fight to guarantee those freedoms everywhere in the world. everywhere in the world. everywhere in the world. he was dictating this, and harry hopkins, his great adviser said, you know, mr. president i wouldn t say everywhere in the world, americans don t give a damn about java. he came back at him, the world is getting so small we re going to have to care about java. we re going to have to care about berlin. churchill said in harvard, 1943, the price of greats in is responsibility. america cannot rise to be the most significant force in global events and not have the long arm of history reach out across the oceans. and so it s entirely in our self-interest. the creation of nato, in part, was, has led to an era where we fought a terrible cold war and we have fought elective hot cwas as part of the cold war but not a global struggle. finally, it s been 30 years, george herbert walker bush thinks the most important he did, bring stability to europe, to stand as a defense of the west, and created a remarkable trading partner. well, we, everyone stay with us. we have much more ahead this morning with this esteemed panel on the nato summit as we build up to the class photo next hour, which should be interesting, and david ignatius i wonder if these going to push anyone? be a buffoon and bush anyone this year? apparently that would be the least offensive thing that would happen there. david ignatius explains his take on why donald trump is so hostile to american allies. he resents them, and their success. interesting. we ll read from that new column just ahead. you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back. we ve seen over the past 18, 19 months, to not look at donald trump as doing either subconsciously or maybe he s just bumbling around, like mr. magoo, but he is doing the very thing that vladimir putin would want a western leader to do more than anything else, and that is to undermine nato. he could not be doing putin s bidding more effectively if he were an active agent of vladimir putin and the kgb. joe, for now i m going to leave that issue to robert mueller, the special counsel. so, well, let me ask you this what does vladimir putin fear? what has vladimir putin feared over the past 18, 19 years more than anything else? so putin fears and resents a strong american-led alliance in nato that he feels has gone right up to russia s border, has tried to draw in these newly merging countries that were part of a society empire. countries that bitterly resented russia s tutelage and now have moved towards nato for security. he resents it to some extent he fears it. he fears that that same desire for something different will affect his own population. it is a dream come true for vladimir putin, to have an american president arrive on the ground in brussels and the first thing, go a breakfast and harang the nato secretary-general and talk about germany, our most important ally in europe, as a captive of russia. i mean, it s just insulting language. it s it seeks to humiliate the people that he s dealing with. i can only think that putin sits back in moscow, well, i ll tell what you people said to me in russia last summer when i was there. they said, we watch the american led liberal international order collapsing and we think that s good, but we don t really understand what you re doing to yourselves. we don t understand why this is being taken apart, but we re happy. i think they are happy, but, you know, people will look back, historianless look back and wonder how on earth was this instrument of american power and wealth undermined so systematically by a president who really had so little knowledge about foreign policy. and, mike, historians will look back at this moment and also wonder why more people were not asking aggressively and not with guarded words, but aggressively asking what does vladimir putin have on donald trump? yeah. because there is we were talking about it before. there is no other explanation. that was a performance for putin. for an american commander in chief. yeah. to actively work to undermine america s most important, most strategic, most vital alliance that it has in the entire face of the earth. the only country this helps is vladimir putin s russia. well, history will have a long list of questions that will have to be answered. that s going to be among them, and another question that s going to be among them is, why was there such silence from members of the united states senate? or the united states congress about what is occurring right now? and nick burns, you re a man of the world. form 0er ambassador to nato. state department employee. tell us your view, your concerns, perhaps, about what has happened when you look at what has happened, a withdrawal from tpp by this president. virtually seedi ingcreeding the to the chinese, latin america, africa, the middle east, intent on becoming a bigger world power than they already are, virtually one foot out the door on nato, the collapse of nato after 70 years, perhaps could happen. give us your view, your concerns about what is happening right now to our position in the world, and the relative silence as we just spoke of from members of the united states senate about this. mike, i think it s clear now, 18 months in to this presidency, that the president is abdicating american leadership. in the following way he s dismantling our alliances and downgrading them. that s been the power base for the united states for 75 years. he s dismantled the trading system that brought us this unprecedented prosperity, and is replacing it with nothing. he s just tearing down. and i just third, i ve been in europe. four countries in the last couple of weeks. the existential battle right now in europe is between the small d. democratic governments and the right wing democratic populists that have taken over the governments of hungary and poland and are inside the government of italy and the europeans are convinced that trump s siding with the authoritarian figures because trump has been praising them privately and publicly, the authoritarian leaders. he s gone after angela merkel. there they is on the screen, big time a vicious twitter attack designed to bring her down. he s been extremely critical of the western european democracies. you can t imagine why an american president would act this way. i think it s a radical revolution, if you add in leaving the iran deal, leaving the paris climate change deal. we had a power base as the most influential country in the world. he only sees trade imbalance and does credit our allies with anything else. we re at a critical moment. we do need political leaders to speak out about this, because i can t believe that members of the senate and house think this is all a good idea. david, do you have any sense that nick burns just mentioned, angela merkel and the president going after her constantly, continually, do you have any sense of the root of this, clearly, anger he has towards angela merkel? it s one of the biggest mysteries, mike. angela merkel is really the leader of europe today. does he resent her strength? does he resent her, because she had a close relationship with barack obama? his predecessor? ah. except i see him as anything obama touched trump wants to get rid of. does he i wrote this morning, we ll talk about this maybe, but trump has this odd scarred, wounded attitude of somebody who went through terrible financial trouble, towards people who were successful and prosperous. the germans of one of the world s greatest economic success stories. does he resent that? but he has been going very directly at her with political attacks, saying that the german people are turning against her. he s doing a little bit of that this week with theresa may, the british prime minister, in effect siding with boris johnson who just walked out of her cabinet in an american presidents don t do this. i mean, does donald trump, he makes us forget how unusual this sort of thing is, but as to the resentment of germany, that s the thing that s really undoing nato, because germany s at the center of nato, and it seems very deliberate, because he does it over and over again. to call germany a captive of russia. yeah. it s the most inflammatory language i can imagine. david, read from your latest op-ed from the washington post, trump s neediness is at the core of his diplomacy. you write, trump is the neediest person that the tycoon that vaulted to the top of the world. sees himself as chief executive not of a thriving enterprise but of one that has nearly been run into the ground by his predecessors. rather than warmly embracing longtime partners in europe he resents them and their success. he picks needless fights and tries to humiliate people that he feels have slighted him. this scarred, prickly trump is looking for new friends and investors. it s almost as if he s ready to fold what he sees as a losing hand and draw a fresh set of cards, ones bearing the faces of north korea s kim jong-un, china s xi, jinping and russia s vladimir putin, and that is wow n wow. that just matching exactly everything we have seen in trump s personality since we first met him, actually. well, you two know him and the world he comes from. i just have been struck recently that this is not the abul yaian donald trump, the part of a comeback donald trump, went through bankruptcy. got the scars, he s prickly. as i said in the column, it s almost as if he doesn t like the hand of cards he s got so he s laying them down and going to draw these new ones. one has a big vladimir putin face on it, and it s just it s mighty weird to see him put the angela merkel card down and reach towards the stack for putin. i don t get that. it s pretty incredible stuff. jon meacham? says a lot of practiced psychiatry without a license, a theory for you to treect it. what s the role of misogyny? does merkel remind him of hillary? does that help explain the theresa may issue? he does not have a particularly healthy relationship, it seems, with a lot of strong women. what do you think? you know, i i m going to be careful about about venturing towards the couch, but i do think that we see in donald trump an affinity for the big guy. you know? the guy who s like donald trump. there s something about him and kim jong-un as they re walking past the furled north korea and american flags and you think there s something similar in these two. you see that when he s with xi jinping. i m sure we ll see it with vladimir putin. he keeps saying over and over gn i respect vladimir putin. he said about boris johnson a rough, tough unpredictable british politician. he s a friend of mine. sort of like, he s one of the guys. so, you know, theresa may, angela merkel are not one of the guys. they re not in this circle he regards as friendly. beyond that, i m not i wouldn t be, dare to guess. all right. ambassador burns, thank you very much for being on the show this morning. we ll be very, very hopeful to talk to you again as this plays out. coming up, when it comes to the president s trade war, what s another $200 billion? turns out a lot. at least for the american workers bearing the brunt of it. we ll talk about the new tariffs the white house is eyeing against china. we ll be right back. metastatic breast cancer is relentless, but i m relentless too. mbc doesn t take a day off, and neither will i. and i treat my mbc with new everyday verzenio- the only one of its kind that can be taken every day. in fact, verzenio is a cdk4 & 6 inhibitor for postmenopausal women with hr+, her2- mbc, approved, with hormonal therapy, as an everyday treatment for a relentless disease. verzenio + an ai is proven to help women have significantly more time without disease progression, and more than half of women saw their tumors shrink vs an ai. diarrhea is common, may be severe, and 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national security reasons. the arizona senator says he expects a vote today. kasie what do we expect on capitol hill? given everything. reporter: the the fundamentals of the republican party as many of these senators have known it for decades are being day in and day out challenged. it seems as though we are finally starting to see some concrete action on the floor of the senate, but you have to remember that this is basically the least intense version of what they could do. a non-binding vote to instruct people to put an amendment in a spending bill, yes, it does send a symbolic signal and we shouldn t underestimate the previous lack of willingness to do even that, but this is not something that is actually going to make a material difference. it doesn t seem at this point to the president s power to do this, and free trade and tariffs on the one hand and nato and our global alliances on the other have been two bedrock principles of the republican party until president trump, and the restructuring that is going to have to go on here, i m just not sure where these politicians go. do they have a home anymore? they feel the party is the party of trump, they have to go along with that because he s so popular with his voters, but such disagreement on what are such fundamental and important issues. the thing is, though, jon meacham, again, i ve always been shocked by politicians in washington who act like the reality they re living in today will forever be the reality. donald trump will leave office at some point, and when he does leave office, these republicans are going to have a hell of a lot to answer for. i remember during george bush s second term criticizing his foreign policy and criticizing his deficit spending, and the massive debts he was racking up, and conservatives were attacking me. suggesting i wasn t sufficiently conservative, two, three years later. suddenly bush leaves town, and they have to defend all the things so that s why barack obama got elected president and there were 59 democrats elected to the united states senate. history moves on. donald trump will move on. all of this will be mud on their face they will have to deal with for a very long time. yeah. and they re all looking at not all of them, particularly in the south, most, red states are looking at numbers that are boggling their minds. which is an extraordinarily high level of approval rating for the president in the republican party itself. and so they re trapped between this momentary fever that i think the country many parts of the country and certainly many parts of the i hate to say the republican party. because it s especially been captured by trump and has become, a wholly owned subsidiary at this point, but it take as certain amount of imagination. it takes a lot of courage, to do what you re talking about. which is to transcend the reality of that number and to think, how am i going to be judged in five years, ten years, 20 years? as opposed to this week? you have to do that, because the people we talk about are the one whose do that. but here s the thing. the thing that s frustrated me with republicans for the past several years. it s not that hard. i ve told this story before of of being attacked for cutting medicare. the rate of growth in medicare, and i was getting attacked by the democratic opponent, and it was a lose-lose issue in 1996. but i got so angry at the demagoguery, because the medicare trustee said we had do it. what it did? did made the entire campaign a referendum on why we had to cut the rate of increase on medicare to save medicare. uh-huh. guess what happened? glen bolger with public opinion strategies called me before the election and told me i had the highest approval rating among senior voters than he had ever seen across america. because i was great now. because i told them the truth. 1995, at the height of the gingrich revolution. yeah. i was in a town hall meeting where people were screaming and yelling about common law marriage between gay men in vermont. this is something where i could have thrown red meat out and we we would have been devoured. i said, wait a second. why do we care about what gay men are doing in vermont? we don t want to tell them what to do in vermont any more than we want them to tell us what to do in northwest florida. right. people started clapping. you can move voters. you don t have to run scared, but you ve got to take it on. right? harry troop han the best line about this. which is demagogues kel an easy one.demagogues yo thinking about truman, weren t you? i was. truman said demagogues tell lies again and again and people leave them, were ut if you tell the truth again and again people will go along with you. i ve said this before. to go to your point. people need to think about the oil portrait test. what are we going to think when we look at their all like that because they can t imagine an idea where we re not gazing at their portrait. you don t want to be 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and therefore isolationism would not return. this is and it was politically difficult, the marshall plan because truman knew it couldn t be called the truman plan because he wasn t popular. imagine the incumbent doing that. there s a lot of symbolism going on here, even the way the president entered this nato headquarters. he took a separate entrance. all the other world leaders taking the red carpet. really actually physically separating himself from our allies but also in the room at the meeting that we saw with the head of nato, secretary general, you could see really awkward body language with mike pompeo and john kelly at the end of the table. mike pompeo looking down. looking like they re enduring a horror show. anybody who has a sense of how difficult, important and valuable these strategic alliances are, it is a pretty staggering, astonishing set of developments in the course of just a few minutes with this president in front of the cameras lord knows what happens when the cameraings were off, join the conversation, former undersecretary of state, host of andrea mitchell reports, andrea mitchell and new york times washington bureau chief elizabeth newmiller. good to have you all on board. david ignatius is still with us as well. rick, there are people who don t want us to draw historical parallels, but history does rhyme. the costs you have jon meacham talking about our need to be engaged after world war ii, the costs for an american first policy and by the way the raising of tariffs across the globe, in the 1920s, had such destructive effects in the 1930s that led to the greatest depression in american history as well as the deadliest war other than our own civil war. yes. john said it well. it s a scary prospect. there was another wise man who once said the chief deliverable of the nato summit is cohesion. and what donald trump has in one fell swoop violated that this morning. it s a very, very scary prospect. to go back to what david was saying, vladimir putin s great goal is not only to disrupt nato but particularly to disrupt the relationship between germany and the united states. this is a dream come true for him. i mean, vladimir putin could have scripted donald trump s your father would be livid. this is exactly, mike barnacle, this is exactly what vladimir putin has sought since he s been in power over the past two decades. yeah. this is his dream. he has it. he has it. dream fulfilled. he has it at many levels. one of the things that occurs to i think all of us here watching the initial tirade earlier today with the president and secretary general nato is the spew of facts coming from the president. we haven t obviously had time to ascertain whether they re valid or not, but one of the things we can do is nail down his constant tirade about nato nations not paying up. right. and they do. and the 2% goal, that s a goal, it s not supposed to be today. it s a goal set for 2026, but the facts coming from the president of the united states are seemingly always screwed. it is certainly true that american presidents and particularly american defense secretaries have gone to nato and complained that nato does not nato countries in europe do not contribute up to 2%. i can remember robert gates doing this and setting off alarms in europe. he was the defense secretary, not the president. but for the president to do this in front of the nato secretary general who had gone around asking countries for more money and had been fairly successful is germany is now going to contribute up to 1.5% is just bewildering why he chose now to do it. i think perhaps he felt it was playing to a domestic audience in the united states. he sounded very egrieved talking about how the taxpayers, american taxpayers, have to do this and nato countries aren t paying their fair share. and i also think i do think there s a certain amount of politics in grievance here. trump knows certainly how unpopular he is in europe and how unpopular he is with the other world leaders and certainly does not have a good relationship with angela merkel. do not discount just this sort of impulsive nature of this and the anger he brings to this meeting. lots to play for you, president trump, fulfilling putin s dream. take a look. i think it s very sad when germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with russia where you re supposed to be guarding against russia and germany and goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to russia. so we re protecting germany. we re protecting france. we re protecting all of these countries and then numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with russia where they re paying billions of dollars into the coughers of russia. so we re supposed to protect you against russia but they re paying billions of dollars to russia. i think that s very inappropriate and the former chancellor of germany is the head of the pipeline company that s supplying the gas. it s ultimately germany will have almost 70% of their country controlled by russia with natural gas. so you tell me, is that appropriate? i mean, i ve been complaining about this from the time i got in there. should have never been allowed to happen, but germany is totally controlled by russia. i think it s something that nato has to look at. i think it s very inappropriate. you and i agreed that it s inappropriate. 29 nations and there are sometimes differences and different views and also some disagreements and gas pipeline from russia to germany is only issue allies disagree. but the strength despite these differences we have always been able to unit around our protect and defend each other. we are stronger together than apart. three world wars and cold war show we re stronger together than apart. how can you be together when you re getting your energy from the person you want protection against? because we understand when we stand together also dealing with russia, we are stronger. i think what we have seen no, you re just making russia richer. you re not dealing with russia. you re making russia richer. during the cold war, nato allies were trading with russia and there had been disagreements about what kind of trade arrangements i think trade is wonderful. i think energy is a whole different story. i think energy is a much different story than normal trade. and you have a country like poland that won t accept the gas. you take a look at some of the countries, they won t accept it because they don t want to be captive to russia. germany, as far as i m concerned is captive to russia because it s getting so much of its energy from russia. we re supposed to protect germany, but getting their energy from russia. explain that. you know that. oh. andrea mitchell, i m going to let you choose where you want to begin with your analysis if you can put it into words. it is so shocking. my first nato summit was to bond then the capital of germany with ronald reagan in 1982 and europe was aflame with attacks from the left wing against the deployment, the collective deployment of intermediate range missiles and they all stood together, reagan leading the way, and to see an american president there with his secretary of state speechless, the u.s. ambassador to nato, very strong and smart woman, former texas senator who is just speechless, obviously her commander in chief, her leader is sitting there and deriding germany. and john kelly, a retired general, watching this. it s just absolutely stoopfying that he would say germany is controlled as captive to russia and that would be his opening gam butt. he is playing to this politic of grievance as he anticipates protests against him in london. he has to stay out of london because it s risky politically and perhaps for other reasons so he ll be going to windsor pal los a las and other places. his facts are wrong. as you all have been pointing out. and his politics are wrong. and it is just a disgrace for the united states to open the nato meeting like this. yeah. and david ignatius, again, it s important for those that are just joining, it s important for donald trump supporters, it s important for all americans to understand, it s important for people working in the trump white house to understand, actually ignorant of the facts that europe has a bigger defense budget than russia. europe as as big defense budget as china. europe has been a bastien against soviet aggression since 1947 and against putin s aggression since the turn of the century. and west germans always reminded us when ever we had problems from 1947 to 1989, they say we are your most loyal and faithful children. and of course we do what you tell us to do. we are standing at the gates of your berlin wall and we are your allies ready and waiting. donald trump, of course, doesn t remember that because he doesn t follow history. but that is the case. germany has been our most steadfast ally against russia since 1947. germany is the bedrock of this alliance that has been the centerpiece of american strategy for dealing with russia. we have to remember that germany and other european countries have supported the sanctions that the u.s. proposed after russia invaded crimea, even though those sanctions cost the europeans, especially the germans a lot in terms of things they could sell, deals they could make, they stood by that policy partly because we asked them to and partly because they knew that russia potentially threatened them. when i watched these pictures of donald trump, the record arrive at that breakfast, i think back two weeks ago to all of the nato officials including the young stoltenberg and their prop rations, is there some way we can make it work out so we can have a good nato summit, so we can talk about all the good things we re doing? in fact, they are doing a lot of good things. they re put more troops east as trip wires to potentially challenge the russians if they were ever to move. they re continuing to support u.s. operations in afghanistan. there s discussion of training troops in iraq to stabilize iraq. all these things that they had lined up as potential achievements president arrives, boom, it s like he knocked over a whole set of blocks. you can only imagine what stoltenberg, what our nato ambassador were thinking as they sat next to the president as he went through this. just one final point, we used this phrase before, but the world we grew up in was well described by one of the creators of nato and these great institutions. he said he was present at the creation. and watching this morning s footage, i think we all wondered whether we were present at the destruction, at the moment at which this began to come apart. you know, that s a critical question that david just raised. jon meacham, also two weeks ago, david was talking about two week ago, two weeks ago june 24th, it was the anniversary of the start of the berlin air lift. and you look at what s happening today and you wonder, how much of your history has been lost because of our inadequacy here in teaching our own history to our children, how much of history is lost clearly among members of the united states senate who have no seemingly no frame of reference to what this country stands for, has stood for through generations and now here we are today and as david pointed out, perhaps with the president of the united states who has one foot out the door on leaving nato. yeah. if you don t know how we got here, it s very hard to understand what you value and what you don t value. we have a president of the united states who is entirely intuitive. he is like an open synaps. you could sort of hear in that soliloquy this morning he at least opened a briefing book. so he had sort he didn t know who gar hard stroder was until he got into the briefing book. i promise. might be one of the world cup people. yeah. but so he thought he plays piano. he thought he was a little kid who played the piano. that s right. but i think that because he is a populist, open synaps, i m sure against what he said will play extremely well for a lot of people. and because it kind of makes sense, right? yeah, they re getting gas from there. and that s the danger of this. so exactly to mike s point, if you don t put the frame on it, if you don t explain that this is how we prosper, we re in trouble. but rick, we ve talked about mr. undersecretary, we ve talked about the trump side of this equation. we haven t talked about the democratic side of this equation. i m so glad that we re a democracy and we re not a parliamentary system, but we need a leader of the opposition, be that leader a conservative or a moderate or a liberal to stand up and not defend europe s interests but defend america s interest and to say, it subpoena against america s interest, it is against your interest, it is against your family s interest, it is against your pocketbook s best interests to continue having a president that tears apart our most valuable military allies, our most important trading partners, the bull works against russian aggression. this is an argument that would be so easy to make. and yet where are the democrats? i guarantee you this, if george w. bush had run against donald trump in 2016, he would have cut him to pieces in the first debate. but he is just laughing at him and mocking him. barack obama would have done the same. bill clinton would have wiped the floor with him. where is the democratic leader that can do that? where is the republican leader that can do that? it s a shame. there s a democratic leader who did it. he said he would pay any price, bear any burden to defend liberty around the world. that was john f. kennedy in his inaugural address. this is a core, core value that these leaders cannot embrace. it s very sad. i want to go back to one moment of history here. one of my last trips with the state department was to berlin. and it was during that time that mrs. merkel gave the speech where she said the reason i ve opened my arms to refugees, to these syrian refugees is because when i was a little girl during the berlin air lift in east berlin, i watched american planes come over and they had these tiny little parachutes of candy and food that came down to me. that taught me how nations can be generous. america does bear any burden historically. what trump doesn t understand is that we re not being taken. we re the generous nation that will actually give more to assure security, to assure peace. that s what a democrat has to say. that s what the republicans have to say. i just can t imagine there aren t people who are speaking out like we re speaking out now about trump disrupting what has been the greatest military alliance in the history of the world, that has kept the peace and keep prosperity for 75 years? and elizabeth, this post war world that so many brilliant people helped cobble together in 1945, 46, 47, it s not only kept america safe and free and prosperous so we have the largest economy on the planet and it has been growing steadily since 1945, it s also put us in a position where we could have fed and freed more people across this planet than any other country. again, we have been a beacon to people like angela merkel, as a child, behind the berlin wall. we have been a beacon, we were beacon to dissidence in soviet russia. we have been a beacon to people across the world. and now it seems that we re about building walls and blowing up bridges. i just wanted to remind people that after 9/11, the nato countries invoked article 5, which was very big deal. article 5, as you know, attack against one nato countries is an attack against all. it s a very emotional moment at the white house when that happened. that was not envisioned. article 5 was never envisioned to be invoked in that way. as we saw in afghanistan, nato countries joined in that defense with the united states. now, that was a long war. there was a lot of argument with nato countries about how much they were contributing over time, but that was an important moment for the nato alliance we shouldn t forget. and i think the worst case scenario for nato now is to see what happens with the meeting between trump and vladimir putin and helsinki. and if that goes well after what has happened in brussels, that will be something. wow. it is really i m trying to think of what my father would say at this point. i think he would andrea, you covered dr. ber zin ski you know my parents and you know my father s strategic thinking. i m scared to even try and put into words what his analysis of this would be. there was you know what, a potential in this meeting and a lot of opportunity. my brother ian wrote a piece for the atlantic council on what positive could have come out of this. how do we describe the negatives here? it s really hard to describe. i was just thinking while you were talking before you mentioned it about what your father would be saying at this point and especially looking forward to the meeting with vladimir putin. i m going to be covering that for you all in helsinki on monday morning. we ll all be together again. and it s all going to be happening right during these hours where he s going to be having a one-on-one meeting without note takers, without advisers. but actually given the role that john bolton and other advisers have played, i m not sure there being there would make any difference. that role of national security adviser which your father occupied in the white house is so critical. now we understand whi h.r. mcmaster was fired because he could not have remained silent while this was going on. there is no one around this president who is willing to speak up to him. and that is what s so shocking. i really worry about defense secretary mattis who is in brussels. i do, too. he must just be gagging on his breath. looking at angela merkel s transcription here, the translation to the comments that she made just moments ago, i ve experienced myself a part of germany controlled by the soviet union and very happy today that we are united in freedom as the federal republic of germany and can thus say we can determine our own policies and make our own decisions and that s very good. you know, joe, let me ask you something, i am constantly and continually bewildered by the president of the united states. we just saw a group of children being rescued from a cave in thailand. the world was thrilled to see it. and here in america, we are taking children from their parents. yep. let s not forget the separation policy. should we no longer recognize their mothers when put together with them. we have a country where the president of the united states is separating himself from the rest of the world seemingly. where are the people in public life who stand up and ask the question, whose country is this? is it donald trump s or is it our s? well, we talked about history and now historians will remember this moment. it s hard, mike, every time something like this happens, it s hard to not turn to members of donald trump s own party, again, trump a lifelong democrat, became a republican when he figured out racerism, birtherism in 2011 would help him win the nomination. where are they? i know they had a vote in the senate. fantastic. but i ll tell you if i were there, i would be rounding up a group of people, we would go down to the white house or we would give a press conference as republicans in front of the capital defending nato and calling out the president for his comments. do you know how hard that is? it s not hard at all. and do you know what happens in your district, i found it helps you in your district. this is what i don t understand about these cowards. every time i spoke out against my own leadership or against democratic leadership, my poll numbers went up because people want somebody who speaks their mind. they want somebody who is independent. they want somebody who is not scared. these people are cowards. so now we re at the point where they would rather lose the country than lose their own election. they are more concerned about what happens this fall than they are with what s happening with what s happening with an alliance, again, that has made america the strongest, the most powerful, the most free country on the planet. forget the fact that we have fed and freed more people than any country in the history of the world. let s just be selfish about this. we have a $19 trillion economy. the post war period has been defined as one. the american century. not the luxembourg century or the french century. because of what we have done in setting up this system, this post war system, historians called this the american century. and you know what, despite our political problems, still is, we still are the most powerful country in the world militarily by tenfold, 20 fold. we re still the most powerful economy in the world. and by the way, we were the day barack obama left office. we were the day george w. bush left office. we were the day bill clinton left office. so why blow this apart unless you are trying to help vladimir putin? to go to something mike just said, donald trump is the most vivid manifestation of the least attractive characteristics in the national character. we haven t been captured by donald trump. we have had our worst instincts affirmed, exacerbated and put in front of the world. i think to suggest that somehow or another he has hijacked the country, lets the rest of us off the hook because right now the kind of courage you re talking about is required not simply of people who are in elective office but all of us. it s why conversations like this matter. jefferson said men should be participatories in congress not only in congress or elections but everyday. the only way to get through this hour of crisis, it is a crisis in the classic sense we know at the end of it whether the patient lives or dice, crisis is supposed to be that important, life or death matter, health crisis, health moment, the country has fully the capacity to do the wrong thing. the wondrous thing about the country is that at least 51% of the time when we have actually let those better angels win, we have opened the arms, we have dropped berlin, we used the berlin air lift, we have colin powell saying we have gone around the world protecting our power, the only thing we asked for is the ground to bury our dead. and elizabeth, donald trump is succeeding in undermining the international american order because there is nobody in his own party pushing back at him. there s nobody in his cabinet pushing back at him. i saw a video a couple days ago of a woman who put on a puerto rico shirt and was abused, followed around by a racist while a cop just sat there and did nothing. that s what the republican party has done. it would be very easy to intercede and step in and stop this. the republicans just choose to do so. i saw bob corker said some things yesterday about nato and they did pass a resolutions yesterday, i believe, firming support for nato. i also want to address jon meacham when he talked about our better angels and talk about this is not the separation of families. but i would like to note that because of the courts who says that the judge out in west coast says that the trump administration can t hold families for more than 20 days and because of the pressure from the public and the president s executive order, what we have now with our immigration crisis is that families are being we re back to catch and release under the obama administration. so i think if the things work in the country, that there is a system of checks and balances, however imperfect, families are not being separated, they re being kept together for 20 days and being given court dates and being released into the country. whether you want that or not, we re back to what the obama administration considered a somewhat more humane policy. the bottom line is some ways the things are working in the country the way their supposed to. we ll see. some families are dysfunctional. we ll see what happens with donald trump. that s very true. andrea mitchell, two of my favorite columns in the age of trump, he was no fan of donald trump, one ended with the words the system lives. and in that column, he talked about all the things that donald trump did, all the breaches of constitutional norms that he practiced daily. and then talked about the four or five institutions, the press or congress or the bureaucracy that pushed back hard, and that has happened for the most part. donald trump has been held in check. but as you know better than anybody in your year s covering presidents and foreign policy, a commander in chief is given such wide latitude that the damage that he can cause on the international stage is obviously far greater. indeed. and we don t have those checks and ambulanbalances in a real s. over time in elections you do. that s why helsinki and putin will be so fraught with high risk, especially because of the way the president launched his opening salvo at nato. we could have predicted it because of the way he left when he was heading to air force base yesterday. his departure remarks were so aggressive against nato. one thought perhaps on the plane he might have read the briefing and been briefed. perhaps somebody could have talked to him. but instead, i think he got ramped up. this opening was tactical. there s no question. that he was beating up on stoelten berg in a deliberate way. he was playing to the camera and he knew what he was doing. i can only think that he was setting on a trajectory that we re going to see throughout this meeting in brussels. and it s only going to further soil his like. he is determined to blow up an alliance as america created as you pointed out there at the creation. we are now witnessing what could be the destruction. i have to think that the alliance and that history is stronger and more durable as our friend charles wrote. david, i don t say this dispairagingly. you ve been around a long time. boy, a long time. by the way, mike, david has been around long enough to remember come on when washington had a baseball team that was a contender. yeah, that was a long time ago, too. boy, we love the senators. seriously, david, have you ever seen anything like this? i never have seen a moment like this in which president of the united states deliberately sets out to undermine the alliance the united states needs. i never have seen it. i never could have imagined it. donald trump is a human wrecking ball. and he likes doing this. he thinks this is success. and we have to say that he is now as president in 18 months succeeded in many of his foreign policy goals of undoing the foreign policy achievements that were built up over so many years and decades. and he will move into the next phase now as he meets with russian leader vladimir putin and tries to come up with a new structure for the u.s./russia relationship. it s a dangerous time. i was reading yesterday trump s inaugural speech. and you go back to that speech. it s not as if this has been sneaking up on us. it s been coming right at us. he said in that speech, you know, american carnage, we re a mess, everything is going wrong in this country. and people have been taking advantage of us and stealing our money and making us pay for the defense. i m going to change all that. he couldn t have been clearer when he came into office and he is now accomplishing those things one by one. and as joe said earlier, we re a democracy. people get a chance to speak up and say, no, that s not the way i want our country to go. i don t want us to trade in alliance with germany for an alliance with authoritarian russia. people get to make that choice. and we need to keep talking about the way the choices appear. but it s not as if this is a surprise or something that snuck up from behind. he s been saying he s going to do this and now he s done it. you re watching the official handshakes at the nato summit in brussels, belgium. and these official moments precede the family photo that will happen in a short time. of course we saw the last one at the last summit and it was absolutely fascinating with i believe the president shoving the leader of montenegro to the side. today has already proved to be incredibly packed with drama and astonishing developments. we re told president trump will be coming out to shake the hand of the u.n. secretary general any moment now. nato. nato secretary general, excuse me. and that is, of course, if he chooses to stay with the program. he did not stay with the program in terms of his entrance. he chose not to walk the red carpet and came in a different entrance, perhaps symbolically separating himself from the allies. so, rick, we saw angela merkel walk across the stage. we ve seen theresa may. we saw her when she entered. and there is, of course, as a backdrop of donald trump s populism and his approach to sort of the recking of the international order that this country helped build since 1945. there are other countries that when you talk about poland, whether you talk about bulgaria, whether you talk about austria, other countries in central europe and eastern europe, who are also going through some fairly turbulent times while angela merkel and theresa may right now are struggling to keep their coalitions in power. and by the way, trump is single handedly trying to unravel theresa may s government. the insane thing he said about boris johnson, he really, really likes me. i m a good friend of his. i want to go back to what you were saying before, joe, about are we returning to this period of isolationism in the 20s and 30s that americans didn t realize we were tied to tres of the world. we were much more isolated in the 20s and 30s than we are now. our entire economy is bound to the rest of the world. unfortunately donald trump voters don t quite understand that. the fact that donald trump was attacking speaking of germany, speaking of bmw. in south carolina. largest plant in the world is in spartanburg, south carolina. those american workers were not happy there. that shows a profound ignorance of what you know what s on the ground because any southerner knows that bmw has led to the renaissance of south carolina since carol campable. i drove by on sunday the volkswagen plant in chattanooga, tennessee, 5, 6,000 jobs brought there by a young mayor named bob corker, sort of a successor to lamar and he brought in nissan. north american headquarters of nissan is about 10 miles from my house in nashville. it s a global economy. the fact that we have to say this is embarrassing. fdr said that every word that comes to the air, every ship that sails at sea does shape the american future. and it was true in 1940, 41. it s even more true now because of the pace of it and the integrated nature of our economic lives. but here we are watching this sound of music production. here we go with president trump now. walking across the blue carpet to shake the hand of the nato secretary general. president of the republic of lithuania, excellentsy. i certainly appreciated the diplomacy that the head of nato tried to show president trump this morning after facing string of insults. he actually credited the president with having nato members increase their military spending when, in fact, the reality is that that s been happening for four years now. that began under barack obama. that began soon after bob gates began pressuring nato to do just that. and still, diplomats will be diplomats and they are doing their best to try to deal with american president who appears to be doing his best to do the bidding of vladimir putin. and stoltenberg has come here, met with the president in the oval office, has tried so hard to warm trump up and persuade him of nato s inherent advantage for the united states and of what they are doing. the irony is that the president trump could have come here and took a victory lap and take credit for what started under bob gates and barack obama and some of their predecessors getting the nato members to stand up and meet these goals for 2024 as germany and others have. he could have come in and said that they are doing this because of my pressure. and instead, he came in his ha ranging form and tried to blow the whole thing up. and you have to admire stoltenberg for trying to put the best face on it, but he has the most difficult job right now. you can only imagine what angela merkel is thinking. you think back to the history of nato and how these summits used to be held in bahn. reagan standing at the gate and saying tear down this wall, mr. gorbachev. i was there. it was one of the most incredible impressions, moments i ever experienced as a correspondent. and now to see this wreckage taking place with our commander in chief supposedly, it really is shocking. andrea mitchell, thank you. we ll be watching andrea mitchell reports at 12:00 p.m. right here on msnbc, wouldn t miss it, especially today. elizabeth, thank you for being on the show. elizabeth, can i ask you, do people come up to you on the streets because of this fast pace, this moving documentary, do kids come up screaming asking for autographs of you? actually it happened over the weekend in brooklyn. i will tell you one person came up to me. i was shocked. that was it. by the way you should not be surprised it was in brooklyn. you were very kind to give us a tour of the news room. thanks. and i must say, the pace was a little bit slower that day than it is editing of this documentary. as they say, they make it very exciting. one of our news clerks says that he called and said i m having a salad at union station. do you think the documentary crew could come and film it and make it very exciting. so, yeah, we take your point. got it. still ahead thanks so much. a group of still ahead on morning joe a group of former foreign ministers is urging the president to in an open letter to reverse what it calls the dangerous trend of america s deteriorating relationship with its western allies. that trend, of course, includes the president s increasingly blatant overtures to vladimir putin. we ll talk about the implications with the former secretary of homeland security, michael chertoff. you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back. - i love my grandma. - anncr: as you grow older, your brain naturally begins to change which may cause trouble with recall. - learning from him is great. when i can keep up! - anncr: thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory. - dad s got all the answers. - anncr: prevagen is now the number-one-selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide. - she outsmarts me every single time. - checkmate! you wanna play again? - anncr: prevagen. healthier brain. better life. it s so 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qualify. joining us now someone who might be able to add to this conversation, we re all a little stunned and speechless, former department of homeland security michael chertoff. he is out with a book. we will get to that in a moment because it s all related ultimately. it is. how do you put into words the damage that is unfolding at the nato summit? and is there any other way to explain the president s i call it sort of carrying out putin s dream and his performance. any other way to read that an as directly as a favor to putn? well, first of all, for a number of administrations people have urged nato to step up more and do more spending. and actually they re moving in that direction. and of course as i think someone mention eed earlier in the show they stood should to shoulder with us after 9/11 in afghanistan. i think things are progresses what the alliance is doing in the right way. why the president is choosing to come in with guns blazing, i don t know whether that s a negotiating tactic to try to drive more behavior than he wants or whether it s simply expresses some kind of emotional reaction. i think what was very helpful was to have a virtually unanimous senate vote endorsing nato. i do think the europeans understand that that relationship we have with them is an enduring relationship. it s not something that s going to come and go with a single president. mike? but you worked for a president of the united states who had his ups and downs, like all do. but this is the first time i think in at least my memory, maybe the country s history, where we have had a president of the united states who appears on the world stage next to other global leaders with a grievance, a public grievance on his shoulder. what s your reaction to that? well, you know, first of all, i agree with you. there were ups and downs with president bush, but he certainly never took a position that was antagonistic, although he stood his ground on certain issues. again, this is a stylish shoe. i can t explain why donald trump chooses to come out with a certain kind of persona. what i can say, though, again is that the organs of government themselves and the relationships between the europeans and the americans at the intelligence level and the defense level are very, very strong. even in the worst periods of the relationship under president bush when there was some real hostility about iraq, we still worked very well together at the operational level, and i m sure that s going to continue. jon meacham. i want to ask, as you served on the front line of collective security, particularly in the new asymmetrical era, do you think moments like this impact our intelligence services capacity to share information, our capacity to work together to keep us protected? actually the good news is i don t think it does. there was a lot of antagonism president bush after the iraq war started and yet operationally we had very close relationships with our counterparts all over europe. i don t expect that to change. so i m not saying it s a good thing to have this level of public friction, but at the day to day working level, i think we continue to have a good relationship. i want to get to the book, but i m curious your thoughts on the president s separation policy, separating children from families. there are several thousands children, some say up to 3,000 that were separated and we ve got certain numbers coming in from different news organizations about some very small children who they may not be able to reunite with their parents. it s all very complicated. but do you think the policy had a plan to track these children in a way that was effective? or do we have some questions here that this policy wasn t thought out and might have been purely political? the planning is there and i think that s why they re having difficulty reuniting people. i don t know what the genesis of this was but it looks like it was put in place very quickly and as a consequence, the issues about how do you track people, how do you verify what the family relationships are, those things do not appear to have been in place when they started this problem. i can tell you that in general when you have any kind of initiative, it always takes people think it does. obviously what they re doing now is paying the price for the lack of a front end policy. and i hope they can figure out a way to get this reunification done as quickly as possible. well, it s to me so unbelievably not who we are that it s hard to fathom this is happening. so can i pivot to the book? i know you want to talk about it. please do. i m going to ask in the weeds question and you can ask it in a quick way. one of the things that i encountered in governments part of the post snowden era, countries like russia passing data localization laws where they say any data you take from someone in our country has to pass through a server in our country so those people have access to that data. i know you re writing about privacy and people are thinking about privacy here, but what is the global implication of that kind of thing both for everyone on the planet and for u.s. citizens? you put your finger on what is a real challenge because data is global. it does not respect physical boundaries. our laws are based on physical boundaries. that tension exists in a lot of areas now as we try to reconcile the idea if with an open and free internet with increasing intent by some countries to control information within their borders, particularly as it relates to their own citizens. we have to decide, do we want a real global internet or do we want a series of little national nets which would really undercut the economic and social value of what the internet is. david ignatius has a question. david? i want to ask secretary chertoff about one issue that may be on the agenda in helsinki when president trump and president putin meet, and that is the idea of global cyber regime, of global set of rules and standards administered through the united nations or some international organization. the russians, as you know, secretary chertoff have been pushing this idea for the last few years. last few years. a lot of americans resist the idea that russians and chinese would write the rules for everybody. what do you think? first of of all, i do think we need to have some global rules, a kind of what microsoft has described as a geneva convention in cyberspace. we need to reinforce the idea that the fact we re operating in cyberspace does not mean you can attack civilians or undermine civil institutions. on the other hand, the question is who administers this? the russians and the chinese often want to have it be the u.n. because they believe they can dominate that process. i m afraid that would take us down a road where there would be a lot of censorship. i know they view it as ideas they don t like to hear. i think most western states want a multi-stake model where you get not just governments but civil society and even technical people involved in governing in kind of an incremental way. interesting waets going on there. you look at prime minister erdogan and trump walking together. just thought i would point that out because he seems to have done some things in the early hours of all of this happening in front of the cameras that appear to be for putin. and coming in from a separate entrance, possibly symbolic to separate himself. and now seemingly clustering a little bit with turkey s prime minister. it s fascinating. he s drawn to tough guys. mr. secretary, i realize you ve been stepped away from an official capacity for quite a while, but i have a feeling that most americans would be stunned at the amount of money, billions, that american companies pay to prevent cyber attacks against them. but we live in a world, we re in a threat of constant cyber attacks. i understand the removal in time from your office, but who are the top three, four, five practitioners, really good practitioners of cyber warfare in the world that we have to cope with? first of all, i think we certainly are as good as anybody. but we re dealing with the russians and the chinese. the chinese have been prolific in stealing sintellectual property over the years, though they ve dialed it back a bit. the russians are responsible for a tax on the ukraine, a tax on us. there is disclosure that malicious tools have been found on our critical infrastructure. then you have north korea and iran who are not as capable, but they re more malicious and more unrestrained. the truth is you can buy a lot of bad stuff now on what they call the dark web. so these countries, although they re not at the level of a russia or china, do have the ability to acquire some serious cyber weapons, and i think that s another concern. can we keep up with this? it s a constant daily battle, i would imagine. i think we are technically as good or better than anybody. but the problem is we re playing defense. it s an asymmetric game where the attacker just has to attack once. also not every enterprise sin vested as they should be in cyber security. it s a little like being a hockey goalie and you re getting a lot of free shots on goal, and that makes it very difficult to defend. we re watching, i believe, the setup for the family photo as they call it, and i see president trump having some pleasant conversation sort of pleasant she s kind of like, uh-huh, uh-huh. yep. yep, i m really trying not to look at him and talk to him, but he keeps coming back at me. i m just going to look straight ahead here and hope the conversation stops. fascinating dynamics leading up to this photo being taken. president trump, of course, has certainly made waves in the first few hours of the nato summit, culminating in this picture, preceded by him entering and hanging out and walking with turkey s prime minister erdogan. and before that deciding to enter the nato headquarters from a different entrance than all the other world leaders were using. and before that, his performance before the cameras addressing nato s secretary general about germany. and it really by all estimates, everybody here on the set and andrea mitchell and all those who have been covering these summit for decades, astonished is a word to use to describe the reaction that we are seeing among top foreign policy analysts. and also really no other explanation for what could have been behind what he was saying except that he was doing everything, seemingly, to please vladimir putin. which, really, i m stretching my brain here, david ignatius, to think of what other intention would be other than what he said before the cameras about germany. i think this president likes to cause instability, who likes to create an uproar. he thinks that s advantageous before going to a key meeting with vladimir putin in helsinki. he thinks, strangely, that this will give him the appearance of strength that he s willing to diss his key allies and he ll come to the meeting with putin in stronger shape. i have a feeling that the script for the putin meeting will be to write some new rules for places like syria, begin to write them for ukraine independent of our nato allies. it s going to be putin and trump who are getting the job done. he loves that role. up there with another big guy, whether it s xi jinping or kim jong-un and now putin writing the rules. i must say writing these pictures, you see him with clenched teeth, sort of scowling with everybody. he talks stiffly with other leaders, but there is a sense that this isn t a club he wants to be part of. i bet you anything we ll see a lot more presidential smiles when he s in helsinki with vladimir putin. fancy that. he doesn t like to share a stage, clearly. it s all about him. mr. secretary, when you were there, ms-13 is quite a thing the president likes to talk about. it was on your screen, ms-13, as clearly as huge as it is on president trump s screen? it was on our screen and we were concerned about what was going on in the u.s., but a bigger problem was this. as we deported people back to their home countries after they served prison terms, they were received by places that didn t have the ability to manage the influx. or you had el salvador receiving ms-13 members, and all of a sudden they have the responsibility to police them and they don t have the capability. one of the things you have to look at when you see our refugee and our immigration policy is the solution begins not in the u.s. but in central america. you know, we need to have the ability of these countries to build a policing capability and deal with the gangs where they re actually gestating because that s what s driving the refugees and creating our problem. this is a system problem, not a u.s. problem. can you look at this picture and all the dynamics we re covering between the key leaders we re looking at on this stage. once upon a time, and always until now, america was the anchor of nato, right? and now he s the outlyer. he s standing outside everybody and everybody is thinking he s this to use the phrase from this morning the kind of wrecking ball for nato. can i ask the secretary a question? go back to your book since they re standing still. one of the things we worried about were domestic attacks on the u.s. the rise of isis messaging which is what i dealt with. what happens when people around the world who doesn t like muslims, wants to decrease muslims in america. does that increase the likelihood of an attack by an extremist islamic group? it does, because somehow it says the narrative is oppressed and they end up striking back. we re going to see rise extreme right wing and left wing violence. when you dial up the rhetoric and you use language that s aggressive and hateful, that empowers a certain segment of society to act out. just the way we did in the 60s where we show extreme right and left violence, i m afraid we ll start to see an uptick of things we ve seen, for example, in charlottesville. well, we re watching the family picture, and some families, as joe pointed out, are quite dysfunctional. what a time it is. we re watching president trump now at the nato summit. we have an interesting dynamic where the president is insulting in a bold-faced way our allies, but 97 members of the u.s. senate passing a resolution to support nato with only two no votes, and of course senator mccain not able to vote. it is the top of the hour. with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnacle, columnist and associate editor of the washington post, david ignatius, foreign public of state michael chertoff. david, the resolution patssed b the senate, how symbolic is that to the world, or does it not have a lot of weight given the gravity of the situation? i think it is a reminder that donald trump is not the only voice in america, but he s certainly the strongest. it s symbolic. looking at the class picture of all those leaders standing together, i kept thinking if we were going to put a caption underneath donald trump, it would say, does not play well with others. that s really a problem. this is a president who, in a collective alliance that s all about interdependence, shared security doesn t play well with others. he gets angry at them. he s jealous. if one is making too much money in trade, he wants to beat them down. if they re not contributing enough to this or that, he insists on haranguing them. the spirit of nato collected action is still very much alive in our congress. so many senators and congressmen have attended nato meetings in europe. the people who sign that resolution, i think, have a personal, intimate sense of what this alliance means. senator reid was one of the principal authors of senator mccain is a perfect example. john mccain goes to europe many times every year, and if there is a symbol for europeans of what the durable american commitment to their security is, it is senator john mccain, ailing now with his very serious brain cancer. but, boy, there is a person who kept this alliance going and symbolized personally what it meant for several generations of europeans. another word about john mccain, i was lucky enough to know him not only when i was in office to work with him, but also to travel with him to the munich security conference a few times, and he was really a beacon to the europeans and to the world about what the u.s. meant. and he also tut ored and educatd a lot of members of congress and got them involved and engaged and that s a very strong part of the enduring relationship between our allies in europe and the united states. and when he was in munich or any other place in the world, i think other world leaders knew that what he said, his word was good. yep. what s confounding about this, i ve been to nato meetings. what s great about a nato meeting, boy, people embrace you. you re the star of the party. it s a great feeling to be behind the flag at a nato meeting and think, yes, we ve been the ballast of this, we ve been the foundation of this. and people are grateful. the fact that the president is so ungrateful and so animated is a terrible thing for the united states. the picture is interesting. if you look at most members of the nato countries, especially the european nato countries, each of the heads of those governments know that in their countries, there are american cemetaries with young men dead since 1945. and it s american territory, it s maintained by the government services administration, our government. there are beautiful plots of land in each and every country in europe. and guess what we did after world war ii, after we left our dead, after we buried our dead? we came home. we did not put a claim on their country, on their land. we came home. that s america. what s the colin powell quote, john? protected power around the world, sacrifice blood of our young men and all we ve ever asked in return is the ground in which to bury our dead. and that s what this country has been about. again, since 1945 we have stood side by side with britain. as i said before, rick, germany coming under withering attack today by the president, but the west germans from 1945 through 1989 with the collapse of the berlin wall, the west germans stood on the front line of that twilight struggle. they have been our closest allies militarily and strategically for years. and the unification of germany was one of the great post-war achievements that was led by american diplomacy. that changed the world for better in so many ways that it was just kind of incalculable. by the way, people didn t necessarily think it was going to happen. by the way, a lot of people didn t want it to happen. george h.w. bush had to use all diplomatic skills that he had to unite germany. and the main person or entity that didn t want it was russia. russia always wanted a divided, split-up germany on its border, and the fact that this was their nightmare come true and the dream come true, as mika was saying, was to have an american president in germany criticizing germany is just i mean, david ignatius is too good a novelist to even put that in one of his columns. it would be crazy if he wrote it. it would be too crazy. nobody would believe it, would they? they would think it was pre p preposterous. come on. we have a great clip of president ronald reagan on the right way to talk about germany. but first, our president, keep your eye wpinpointed on his chif of staff john kelly and secretary of state mike pompeo, because their body language is fascinating. also, kay bailey hutchinson also looks more than a bit uncomfortable. here is the president of the united states. i think it s very sad when germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with russia where you re supposed to be guarding against russia, and germany goes out to pay billions and billions of dollars a year to russia. we re protecting germany, we re protecting france, we re protecting all of these countries, then numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline deal with russia where they re paying billions of dollars into the coffers of russia. we re supposed to protect you against russia, but they re paying billions of dollars to russia, and i think that s very inappropriate. and the former chancellor of germany is the head of the pipeline company that s supplying the gas. ultimately germany will have almost 70% of their country controlled by russia with natural gas. you tell me, is that appropriate? i mean, i ve been complaining about this from the time i got here. it never should have been allowed to have happened. but germany is totally controlled by russia. i think it s something that nato has to look at. i think it s very inappropriate. you and i agreed that it s inappropriate. there are sometimes differences and different views and also some disagreements on the gas pipeline from russia to germany. it s a small issue in which allies disagree. but we ve always been able to unite to protect and defend each other because we stand stronger together than apart. we have two world wars and a cold war and we are stronger together than apart. how can you be together when a country is getting its energy from the person you want protection against or from the group that you want protection? because we understand that when we stand together also in dealing with russia, we are stronger. i think what we have seen you re just making russia richer. you re not dealing with russia, you re making russia richer. even during the cold war, nato allies were trading with russia and there have been disagreements on what kind of trade arrangements we should have. i think trade is wonderful. i think energy is a whole different story. ic i think energy is a much different story than trade. you have a country that won t accept the gas. you take a look at some of the countries, they won t accept it because they don t want to be captive to russia. but germany, as far as i m concerned, is captive to russia because it s getting so much of its energy from russia. so we re supposed to protect germany, but they re getting their energy from russia. explain that. and it can t be explained, you know that. so, mr. secretary, there has been controversy behind this pipeline. and as a head of nato told donald trump, we have disagreements all the time. that s why we come here to talk through the disagreements. putting aside how this was expressed, there has been a concern about the fact that the russians use their gas, natural gas, as a lever to kind of drive behavior that they want to drive. and one of the solutions would be for us to export more of our liquid natural gas to europe which would create a counterbalance to the russians. so if one could strip out some of the hostility, there is actually a point to be made here about the geopolitics of energy that would be helpful both to us and to the europeans. so how does the united states export more? well, i think what we do is we allow the regulations to permit us to do more exporting. for a long time we ve been very constrained in our ability to export. we work with the europeans, if they re willing to sign contracts with us. that would then create a counterbalance to the russian use of their pipeline as a way of kind of exerting pressure. how do we do that in the middle of a trade war where we ve racked europe with tariffs? that s where you have to get strategic. the big picture is to move power away from putin and back to europe and ourselves, and that way we re not dealing with steel which doesn t have an impact on the trade balance. we should be talking about energy and technology which is really our value position globally. let s compare trump s posture on germany to this, ronald reagan and his nato allies in 1982 as he departed western germany. in berlin this morning, i looked across that tragic wall and saw the grim consequences of freedom denied. but i was deeply inspired by the courage and dedication to liberty which i saw in so many faces on the western side of that city. the purpose of my trip to bonn was to consult both with leaders of the german government and our colleagues from other nations. both aspects of the visit have been a great success. we didn t seek to avoid the problems facing the west in the coming years, we met them head on and discovered that, as always, what unites us is much deeper and more meaningful than any differences which might exist. john meacham. a different era, i think is safe to say. and interesting ronald reagan came into office in 1981, as he himself put it, with a lot of people believing he was a combination of the mad bomber and ebenezer scrooge. there is a kind of center left acceptance of reagan and reaganism now that is, a, historical in the sense that it was not true in realtime. in 1982, 83, there were extraordinary demonstrations both in the united states and around europe by the deployment of the hrhing 2. so the idea there was this colleague before trump is not true. what is true is reagan was someone who came out of cultural populism, and as president reached beyond his base. he governed for the whole country. he came in as a cold warrior who said the first week he was at the white house and said the soviet union lies and cheats to seek world domination. and in 1998, he s literally standing in red square playing with babies. he was a union negotiator. he understood that hope was a better bet than fear. president trump comes from a populist tradition here. he has shown no interest, and in fact, quite the opposite, in ever reaching out beyond his base. and, you know, mr. secretary, one thing that mark anbinder talked about in his book about ronald reagan was reagan was obsessed with understanding the soviets. he didn t quite understand why the soviets feared us as much as they did. so he read every book on the soviet union he could. he was constantly asking experts, why do they fear us? what do we need to do? after he got shot, of course, we all know he felt like it was god had given him this time on earth to rid the world of the nuclear menace. and that s what he got to work on by trying to understand those with whom he disagreed. that would seem to be a good model for the 45th president as well. reagan had a positive vision. it wasn t just negative, it was how to reach something positive. and he had a strategic vision. and i think maybe to a greater degree than was appreciated at the time, he was somebody who listened and learned and was a thinker. i think that was a real strength that he had. i will say that if you look at the russians now, they still harbor that sense of fear and paranoia that goes back to the 80s. and what s been striking to me in the little bit of interaction i ve had with them is how generally convinced they are that we re out to undermine them, and in many ways they haven t lost that chip on their shoulder that you see back in the reagan era. mr. secretary, thank you so much for being with us. thank you, michael chertoff. and talk about a timely book, an important book. the book is exploding data: reclaiming our cyber security in the digital age. a must read. thank you. president trump may think nato is a waste of time, but as we mentioned, 97% of the u.s. senate disagrees with the president of the united states. how lawmakers sent their own message to american allies just hours after the president touched down in europe. you re watching morning joe. we ll be right back. we do whatever it takes to fight cancer. these are the specialists we re proud to call our own. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com my mom washes the dishes. .before she puts them in the dishwasher. so what does the dishwasher do? new cascade platinum does the work for you, prewashing 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and enhancing our alliances and partnerships. senators rand paul and mike lee were the only two to vote against the motion. yeah. wow. okay. caskasie hunt, that is the unit states senate sending as strong a message as possible to our nato allies, as well as to vladimir putin, talking about russian aggression in that language and also, you know, some of the republican senators that went over and were criticized for going over to russia actually, if you look at what was said in those meetings, there was confrontation about the russians interfering, meddling in our 2016 election. it seems the senate, at least, and some republicans in the senate, at least, except for mark lee and rand paul, thicnk it s a good idea to stand shoulder to shoulder with our european allies and stand out against regression. this reads to me like an attempt by the u.s. senate, republicans ask dnd democrats a, to send a message to our nato allies, please try not to worry too much, we promise to keep the light on for you. as we move past this era, this is still something important to us. there were so many republicans who didn t want trump to get elected in the first place. they thought there would be a lot of problems and issues. i don t think any of them ever dreamed that it would be a serious question to ask mitch mcconnell got the question yesterday, do you think this president is going to pull us out of nato, the house we built. this is the western world the united states of america has been built after the cold war and it s been bedrock for all of our foreign policy, but particularly on the republican side. you look at ronald reagan at the end of the cold war. so the fact this vote was so overwhelming, the fact that it happened at all, jack reed, a democrat, they gave it to him and his counterpart, obviously, not here in washington, still battling brain cancer. but that is just an incredible signal and it comes from the top down. john meacham. yes, it was the house we built, nato. the ignorance of donald trump and the ignorance of those who believe he somehow is showing those europeans, showing them what real leadership is about, again, only reveals an ignorance that the house that america built in europe we built for our own selfish interest. we built to protect our military troops, to stop a third european world war from occurring in 30 years. we did it to build strong trade partners. and what happened? we built strong trade partners. we kept germany, we kept italy, we kept france, we kept a lot of countries out of stalin s grasp after world war ii. this, along with the truman doctrine, the morso plan. one of america s greatest investments ever. forget about the niceties of democracy and freedom, just cold, hard cash. so when donald trump is playing businessman over there, he s being a fool and tearing down the foundation of america s $19 trillion economy. yeah. when fdr was dictating the for-freedom speech in 1941 which was freedom for one, freedom from fear, he said we must fight to guarantee these freedoms everywhere in the world, everywhere in the world, everywhere in the world. he was dictating this. and harry hopkins, his great adviser, said, mr. president, i wouldn t say everywhere in the world because america doesn t give a damn about java. and hear truman came back and said, the world is getting so small we have to care about java. we have to care about berlin. churchill said at harvard in 1943 that the price of greatn s greatness, america cannot have the long arm of history reach out across the oceans. so it s entirely in our self-interest. coming up on morning joe, two of the top democrats on capitol hill, the ranking member on oversight and government reform, congressman elijah cummings. and the party s leading voice on the senate committee, senator bob menendez. morning joe is back in a moment. - i love my grandma. - anncr: as you grow older, your brain naturally begins to change which may cause trouble with recall. - learning from 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being most abusive diplomatically to liberal democracies who have been our closest allies since the end of world war ii. and being, of course, most obseqious towards dictators and autocrats. which really, rick stengel, makes the next summit donald trump will be having with vladimir putin all the more important with the world all the more focused on whether an american president is really going to undermine the nato alliance before going and embracing vladimir putin, a man who we said a few days ago would cause him his least worries. yes. if you bought a new spy novel and it opened with an american president going to a nato summit and attacking germany, you would probably put it down because it was too i am applaumplausible, never happen. but if it was the same novel, he would go to see putin who seeks to unravel nato and has a summit where they re hugging and kissing. it s just inconceivable. we were looking at ronald reagan in berlin in 1982 who talked about americans that died to protect our european allies, and ronald reagan would be so appalled at what donald trump is doing. it s absolutely inconceivable, and as mika said earlier can, it s p it s putin s dream to see an american president attacking nato. we ve seen them as an imminent threat to russia for some time just as the soviet union did as well. mike, making that bad spy novel all the more unbelievable about an american president doing the bidding, whether consciously or subconsciously for vladimir putin by undermining nato, would be the fact that that bad spy novel would begin with the president being investigated for possible collusion with vladimir putin and russia because, well, of the 13 russians that have been indicted, his national security adviser who was close to russia who has been indicted and is now cooperating, his campaign chairman who has been indicted and is now in jail with close ties to russia and russian oligarchs, his deputy campaign manager also caught lying to the fbi. i mean, you could go down the list. and so that s all the backdrop for what we re seeing here. a president accused of being too close to vladimir putin and with suspicions raised about vladimir putin having something on him going to putin s bidding. this isn t a spy novel s work. you don t do it in the light of day, but donald trump does. as we were spelling out the gist of this preposterous spy novel which is all playing out in reality in our newspapers and newspapers around the world as we speak, one of the principal characters in the back story of this preposterous spy novel is seated three rows directly behind the president of the united states, and it is general james mattis, the secretary of defense, who has to, i imagine, carry on a separate dialogue with other ministers from the nato countries, basically telling them, listen, i understand what happened this morning. i understand where our president is coming from, i understand your fears, but we are here. we will be there if article 5 is invoked. america stands behind its word. that s general mattis task. and secretary mattis famously said nato was so important that if it didn t exist, we would have to invent it. absolutely. general ismay said something and lady thatcher used it later, that the purpose of nato was to keep the russians out, the germans down and the americans in. and right now, i suspect the germans are up. they want to keep russia out, still. i m not sure they want us around so much. it s part of the infrastructure of the most remarkable era of prosperity and relative stability, certainly, what, since the 1400s, i would say. certainly in the last six or seven hundred years. what s the great achievement? irony upon irony here. the great achievement of the post-war era in many ways is the american middle class. the level of material prosperity, the ultimate, though, painstaking and it took too long, the ultimate expansion of the jeffersonian promise of equality. i don t think it s a coincidence that 1964 and 65 saw us actually undo jim crow. it was partly because people were prosperous and they were able to finally, on the white side of the color line, were able to listen to those better angels. that s what s puzzling here. like 1964 and 1965, we have been living in prosperity for the better part of 40, 50 years, and certainly over the past seven years, starting in barack obama s second year, we started a recovery in this country that has continued in a straight line. we re almost at full employment. our wages are creeping upward. we don t have the excuse, well, you know, the white middle class or the white working class is frustrated and afraid that people of color are going to take their jobs. we re at full employment. that makes this time all the more vexing. why are we moving in this direction of a populist when the united states of america is enjoying unequaled, economic and military prosperity? that s what makes this all the all pernicious. because what president trump has done over the last three years it s been almost exactly three years, right, wasn t it june 15? right. he has created an emotional crisis in the country that is not substantiated it s not attached to reality. make america great again? $19 trillion economy. make america great again? our military ten times as strong as the next. i mean, stop all the border crossings from mexico? there was a net negative rate of immigration as we sat through the entire campaign. these campaign promises that he has made to stir up the crowd and suggest that america is facing one crisis after another have been made up out of whole cloth. and sometimes social science shows that when people should be most content, they re on most dissatisfied. he is tapping into a dissatisfaction that isn t earned. the economy is almost a full employment economy. it s disturbing. coming up next, the top democrat on the house oversight and government reform committee, elijah cummings will be with us. keep it right here on morning 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it s a simple, basic, straightforward question. there are some that suggest the government knows exactly where the children and the parents are and they know how to unite them. that doesn t seem to actually be the case on the ground. what can you tell us? i can tell you that i think nobody really knows where all these children are and where their parents are. and i don t think and the reason for that, joe, is because it was never an intention from the very beginning to reunite these children with their parents. you know, something as simple as an arm band like they give you when you go in a hospital. put one on a parent, put one on a child and be able to match them up. this is not rocket science. but now we re in a situation where because they did not properly plan, because they executed the zero tolerance policy in a way that had no forethought, and as a matter of fact, it looks to me like a very mean thing that the trump administration has done, we ve got children who may never, sadly, be reunited with their parents. but one thing i am glad about, and that is the judge is taking a real hard line with the government and saying, you ve got to get this done, and continuing to pressure them very, very hard. congressman, clearly you re speaking about a crisis that is of the moment today, but if you think about this, we ve been talking about immigration reform legislation to figure out exactly how to do this since alan simpson and ted kennedy began talking about it in the mid-1980s. my question to you is, given the nature of politics today, given the polarization in both the house and the senate, do you think it s possible that in our lifetime, your lifetime and my lifetime, that there will be some legislation passed to deal with this constant issue in a common sense way? sdp i really hope so, and that s why i was very pleased that congressman meadows, the head of the freedom party and certainly a republican and one of our most conservative republicans, joined with me in asking for chairman gowdy of the oversight committee to do a hearing where we began to explore, first of all, what s happening with these children, trying to make sure it doesn t happen again. but also looking at how do we put ourselves into a position we re not constantly revisiting this situation? but to go back to your question, the parties are so divided, and with president trump saying the kind of things he s been saying, it doesn t help. rick? congressman, good morning. good morning. following up on that question, putting together an immigration policy. that mighten even happen in our lifetime. is there something congress can do right now that prevents immigration from separating young people, infants, toddlers from their family? that this zero tolerance policy needs to be amended. there are several pieces of legislation that i know of that will address that issue. the question is whether the speaker will allow that kind of legislation to come to the floor of the house. he has been very reluctant to allow various types of legislation to come where he thinks it might not you know, where he thinks that he may be embarrassed in any way. but that s going to be the key. i think we can get some of the legislation that s already out there that says you cannot do this, then we can get there. but at this point, i think it s very difficult. congressman, do you have any sense of when we might be looking for director mueller s report? and if your party were to take the house back in november, to what extent do you think the likelihood of impeachment proceedings is? first of all, i do not have a clue as to when mueller will be issuing his report. and i think that everybody needs to just chill for a minute and allow him to do his work. i ve never seen anything like this where a defense team goes so publicly attacking a prosecutor. i ve never seen that and i practiced for over 20 years before i came to congress. they ve done everything they can to take away his credibility. but i think we need to let him do his job. and as far as impeachment is concerned, i think we have to face that when we get to it. a lot of it is going to depend on what mueller comes back with. all right. congressman elijah cummings, as always, it s great to have you on the show. it s great to see you. i ll see in you washington sometime soon. all right, sir. thank you. sir. thank you. the ranking member of the foreign senate relations committee, democrat bob menendez of new jersey. we ve been talking about what our secretary of defense had said about nato a year or so ago. it was so important if nato didn t exist, we would have to create it. i take it from the vote in the united states senate that is the unanimous agreement of all the democrats and at least every republican except for two. it s the near unanimous agreement except two republicans. and today they will mark up legislation that speaks to nato alliance that s brought us peace and prosperity in 73 years. it was there in the aftermath of world war ii. it was there to win the cold war and on september 11th when the only time nato has invoked mutual self-defense provision was on behalf of the united states when it was struck on that tragic day september 11th and for 17 years they ve fought with us across the globe. at the same time it s created prosperity that we have been part of enjoying in a significant market for the united states products and services. this is critical. it s so upsetting to see that putin, whose number one goal is to divide the west, particularly in nato, has an american president doing his work for him in a way that all of his cyber attacks and twitter disinformation and trolls have been unable to achieve. putin made a great investment in the 2016 presidential election and it s paying off for him in brussels today. so what does the united states senate do? what can it do in a bipartisan way to send a message to our nato allies as well as to russia, that despite the fact that we have a president who said vladimir putin would be the easiest part of his trip and that our democratic allies, who have stood by our side since 1945, were going to be the most difficult, what do we do to right side this relationship again that our commander in chief is turning upside down? yesterday from the beginning, as you pointed out, joe, the senate spoke in a strong bipartisan vote, national defense authorization act. today the senate will speak through the senate foreign relations committee in a near unanimous effort. one colleague, rand paul, may not be there, in solidifying the nato relationship from a national security interest. thirdly, i have said on the senate floor and i will continue, as my colleagues will continue to echo, that sanctions against russia is not a question of discretion for the president. when we wrote casa it was the first time in all the sanctions i ve helped author, whether it be gns iran or in this case against russia, that the congress did not provide the discretion to an american president and insisted on mandatory sanctions if certain actions by russia were taking. those actions can only those sanctions can only be undone by the senate. i think that those are three critical elements of sending a very clear message to our nato allies that congress, an expression of the will of the american people, believes in nato and the importance of it. senator, we re listening to you and respect your views and they re very strong views in opposition to what the president is doing. what the president is actually doing, it seems, is undermining 75 years of peace, stability and progress in disrupting nato. it seems as if he is intent on basically detablizing nato to the point that the european union is weakened. why then do we not hear more voices come out more strongly, like yours, on the fluoro of the united states senate and elsewhere in unison about what this president is doing to our history and our country? i think the vote yesterday speaks loudly. i would hope that my republican colleagues nato has been the bu bu bull bullwort in support of nato. they re muted voices today, other than through their vote, is a concern to me because we need to send a robust message to all of europe, particularly our nato allies and to russia, an adversary. it worries me that the president is going to a meeting with putin where he describes him as a competitor. he is not a competitor. he is an adversary, in my opinion, a foe. when you go into a meeting thinking someone is a competitor, that s a strategically different train of thought when someone is an adversary. i hope our colleagues will raise their voices as they have in the past. they just need to go back and look at those speeches and they re as relevant today as they were when they made them before. appreciate it. rick stingel, there are quite a few diplomatic dumpster fires, i think kinnen called it, that we are seeing at the same time. one, of course, is what s happening in nato. and people are offering their warnings. the president ignores those warnings and another where the president ignored warnings was north korea, which cnn international reported earlier that a source with knowledge of discussions between pompeo and north korea said the trip went, quote, as badly as it could have gone. north koreans were just messing around. not serious about moving forward. pompeo was promised a meeting with kim jong-un and not getting one. and kim jong-un in his summer whites, as willie said, picking potatoes instead of meeting with america s secretary of state sends a message. i harken back to what david ignatius said earlier, the forming of this great post war order that the u.s. was the foundation of. maybe we are witnessing and maybe we are present at the destruction of that order. and that is just very disturbing. final thoughts, john meachum, in 15 seconds? i think president trump thinks that dean masterson was the head of the elementary school he went to. and i think this, too, shall pass. long past time for bob menendez and other members of the senate on both sides of the aisle to remind donald trump that this country does not belong to him. it belongs to us. that does it for us on this very busy wednesday morning. stephanie ruhle will pick up the coverage in two minutes. i got it. and sometimes those experts need experts. on it. 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A morning news show that includes interviews, features and banter among hosts. pete: and barack obama as well. that kind of anemic growth is the new normal. and a lot of economists said that as well. griff, you brought this up. you should get credit for this. i will read it one of our reports in october of 2016 cnn surveyed 11 economists on whether the economy would ever reach 4% g.d.p. all said no. quote: one economist his name is robert brewska he said pigs do not fly. trump donald trump is dreaming that it would get to 4%. breaking news this morning, pigs do fly. they actually do. [laughter] because we hit 4.1%. if it s on the folder it s got to be true. think about it, economists and everyone in the establishment said no, no, no. 4% can t happen. we are managing america s decline. we are a second rate power. our economy is stuck in the mud. trump said no we can unleash it again. america can be great. economic engine of free market works. abby: we are still dealing with this. griff: the player s association says we are not on board. we are not going to go with this new anthem policy that roger goodell thought he had apparently solved it. it appears he hasn t. my red skins just started this week training camp. everyone is taking a look. people trying to get excited. but, i don t know. it could be a really rough time. abby: zac prescott the cowboys quarter back had strong words on what the game means to him and what the game of football means to so many americans, and what this has done to sort of take away that joy that we all feel when we watch football. here s what he said about this. i never protest. i never protest during the anthem and i don t think that s the time or the venue to do. so the game of football has always brought me such a peace and i think it does the same for a lot of people. a lot of people playing the game. a lot of people watching the game. a lot of people that have impact of the game. when you bring such a controversy to the state and to the field and the game it takes away from the joy and love that football brings a lot of people. i m for taking a next step, whatever that step may be for action and not just kneeling. pete: amen, well said. he can figure out what the nfl cannot. they are in the meetings with the players association. of course the players association could fix it if they want to. they don t. right now it stands a ambiguous: the cowboys came out and said if you are on my team you are standing for the anthem. to say me sounds like the easiest policy. on my team standing for the anthem, otherwise, you are going to sit out and not be on this team. nfl just hurting itself right now. diamondbacdak prescott god bles. abby: people want to talk about challenges we face in this country, think about ways to make that positive change. i m not sure what we have seen play out over the past year has helped us in any way other than get attention in headlines. griff: let us know what you think about this. email us at friend friends@foxnews.com. what is being talked about fort anthem during the national anthem players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in left hand and refrain from talking. that is what they are asking for. pete: sounds really difficult. abby: send us your thoughts. friends@foxnews.com. starting with a fox news alert. two officers shot while responding to a disturbance call in massachusetts. the falmouth police chief identifying the injured officers as ryan moore and donald d. meranda. one officer hit twice in the chest another grazed by a bullet in the head. this is happening way too much. we have got to return back to a time when police officers are respected and it s not okay to shoot a police officer. abby: a suspect was also shot and will be taken into custody once he is out of the hospital. both officers are expected to be okay. meanwhile overnight in los angeles, a fee malt officer now recovering after being shot in the leg. the suspect also was shot still unclear what led to that shooting. both of their conditions are unknown. and now to another fox news alert. a desperate search for two young kids and their great grandmother after their house burns to the ground. the car fire in northern california tripling in size leveling more than 500 homes and threatening 5,000 others. incredible video of fierce flames whipping into fire tornadoes. two firefighters have now been killed. the fire is only 5% at this point contained. and there s this. president trump putting his stamp of approval for a michigan republican primary for u.s. senate. the president tweeting in part this: john james, who is running the republican primary in the great state of michigan is spectacular. vote on august 7th. rarely have i seen a candidate with such a great potential. west point graduated. successful businessman and an african-american leader. james will join us live during the 9:00 hour on the show. you don t want to miss that interview. and there s this. a spectacular event seen around the world. the longest total lunar eclipse of the century lasting 143 minutes. the blood moon happens when the sun, the earth and the moon perfectly align. those in north america and greenland could not see it because of the time of day. pete: so you didn t see it but sounded cool. abby: it was very cool in the picture. that s our job, pete, tell everybody what they are missing u. pete: latest sign of trump s economy. are democrats in trouble in 2020. peter morici weighs in next. chicken?! chicken. chicken! that s right, candace 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trump was supposed to be a flop. well now he is a success. there is nothing like being a coach on monday morning and having beaten the spread. griff: that s right, peter. i was at the white house yesterday they are elated over there not elated because they hit the numbers but they believe these numbers are sustainable. what do you say? will we see another quarter like. this we will see quarters like this. even barack obama had quarters like this. what matters is the average over many quarters. i think this president can sustain 3% growth. that s not a come down. barack obama had 1.8. so 3% growth would be a profound difference in americans lives. sooner or later wages would simply have to go up from that somebody halls to get the money. stocks, ir iras, key owes, governments would have more revenue. all this stress you see in state and local governments would abate. 3% growth is marvelous. griff: peter, you mentioned president obama. would these numbers have happened would this have happened under a president clinton? absolutely not. you know the agenda. listen to cortez in new york right now. more taxes, more regulations, more give aways, more of a war on work. more of a tax on work. americans can only bear so much. we have let up on the burdens it s like taking the weights off a sprinter and they have run away. griff: i don t want to go in the weeds. it s early on a saturday morning. sure. griff: the president in his remarks at the very end said a big driver in this in what will make it sustainable is the trade deficit has been cut to the tune of $52 billion. why does that matter? well, it was an export-led surge. we need to start exporting more in america. there is nothing wrong with buying chinese toasters if we can sell them the things that we do well. and president trump is trying to open up markets and, of course, a big part of that message was watch the trade agreements. i get for you. that s what he is banking on. i m hoping we will see more investment in america than we have seen lately. that wasn t in the numbers as strong as i would like. that s where i think the big growth surge is going to come from. lower corporate taxes. lower cost of capital to people invest more in america. griff: one last question with you, peter, that is many of the naysayers say this 4.1 number came about because companies were front loading, trying to get ahead of the tariff impact. what do you say? you can t see it in the data. what s more, we don t know what the tariffs are going to be on the other side. my feeling is that was just basically democrats hiding in the boughs of banks who are anti-trump who came up with polemics to poo poo a marvelous achievement. one of the things i really disliked yesterday was donald trump deserves some congratulations for his accomplishments and there was chuck schumer negative again. you know, this is a day to celebrate. let s hope we have some more. griff: that s right. peter morici the man to go to when you need to sort things out. have great saturday. you are right, it s time to celebrate these numbers are real. and as you say, perhaps the good times are here to stay. thank you, peter. take care. griff: all right. a wil brawl breaking out on hollywood walk of fame. corey booker taking a out of maxine waters playbook. go to the hill today. get up in the face of some congress people. griff: does this help the political discord in america? we ll debate it. that s coming up. in and out you re up and you re right it s black and it s white we fight we break up we kiss, we make up get up to $2500 customer cash on select 2018 nx 300 models. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. if yor crohn s symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn t worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn s. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many 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xfinity xfi, simple, easy, awesome. pete: welcome back. the remains of 55 u.s. service members killed in the korean war returned to the u.s. by north korea. president trump making a heart felt tribute in honor of our fallen heroes. gillian turner is in washington, d.c. with more. gillian? good morning, pete. president trump paying tribute to fallen american soldiers and dictator kim jong un yesterday in a ceremony to rerepatriate the remains of americans to perished during the korean war 1950 and 1953. i want to thank chairman kim for keeping his word, for fulfilling a promise he made to me. i m sure he will continue to fulfill that promise as they serve and searcsearch and searcd search. 55 cases each draped with the flag of the united nations and they arrived aboard a plane at u.s. military air base outside of seoul, north korea. this transfer had been negotiated last month during president trump s summit with kim in singapore where they reportedly discussed this matter directly face to face. the return of remains is viewed as a way for the north to demonstrate its intent to follow through on other commitments that kim made to president trump, including most importantly, the commitment to denuclearize. now about 7700 u.s. soldiers are listed as missing from the korean war and 5300 of their remains are believed to still be at large in north korea. the war killed millions but most notably 36,000 americans, pete. pete: welcome home, men. gillian, thank you very much. appreciate it abby, down to you. abby: thank you, pete. remember when democratic congressman maxine waters said this? if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, you get out and you create a crowd. and you push back on them. abby: well this week senator corey booker seemingly took a page out of her playbook. that s my call to action here. please, don t just come here today and then go home. go to the hill today. [cheers] get up and, please, get up in the face of some congress people. abby: the senator has since walked back this aggressive rhetoric is this really the right message to already send to a heated base. here to debate mitchell ricky and jana caldwell. good morning to both of you. thank you for being with us. jenna, what does this tell you about our political rhetoric right now and maybe more importantly in this conversation the direction of the democratic party? corey booker is someone who has talked about running for president in 2020. yeah. there is a lot of democrats that are going to run for president. maybe even the new face of the democratic party marks seen waters, honestly, when i think about the rhetoric in which maxine waters has used. to seems when ideas, mob violence seems to be the answer. this has become a very dangerous scenario at play. when you see trump supporters or republicans in general get attacked, you think about an example that happened in 2016 where a chicago man was beaten and people were yelling out he voted trump. you know that this isn t an environment that maybe should make the careless and dangerous comments that senator booker means. abby: you have two political parties that seem to not be further apart. why are we seeing so much hate? look, first of all i think we need to be clear that senator booker never called for anyone to be physically assaulted, harassed or fossilled. and the fact that 17 seconds of his 35. abby: what did he mean by that when he said get up in the faces of people. when you say 17 seconds of someone s 35-minute speech and misrepresent it to me that s the epitome of fake news. do you think that message is helpful for your party and for the country? he clearly is telling people to get in the face of people in congress. abby, he did not say get in the face of conservatives. he did not say get in the face of republicans. he was actually asking people to get in the face of members of congress to address homelessness in this country. abby: let me ask you this rorochelle is that the way to make changing? i don t think he used the word hurt, beat. i don t think he offered to pay the legal fees of advocates who go and knock the crap out of people because they disagree with the senator. so if we want to talk about leadership. if we really want to talk about that it starts at the oval office. row chilly, if roach chillyy respond to that. go ahead. i don t believe senator booker was telling people to go beat people up. considering the environment we are in hostility, especially when it comes against actual people republicans, trump supporters, wouldn t you agree that his comments were careless and dangerous, thereby, that s why he walked them back. that s why he said this is not the direction i m going. in so we can at least have a conversation and be very honest and i know you and i will be very honest with the folks at home. being honest, words matter. words definitely matter. but i think that we have to look at 35 minutes worth of words. not 17 seconds. and the entire speech was really phenomenal. he was talking about the future of america. this is not a blue future a red future. a republican, a democrat future. it s about the american future when it comes to homelessness and poverty in this country. if we re going to take 17 seconds, we need to make sure we are telling the american people the truth by saying watch 35 minutes and listen to what he says before and after. abby: you also need to think about what is being said even if it is 17 seconds of how we come together more as americans. start with president trump. abby: in that party talk about the issues. quickly both of you, how do we move forward from here, rochelle, you first. i think we have to learn to agree to disagree. that s just a common theme that i think mature adults can agree to disagree. i do condone violence of any sort, whether you are on the left or right? absolutely not. did i think that congresswoman maxine waters did step out of line a little bit with her comments. at the same time, we also have a president that has stepped out of line plenty of times at his rallies and, gee gianno, you mentioned the will. you didn t mention the people shoved around by the trump era. you didn t mention the young man punched in the faces a he was exiting a trump rally. this does go both ways. abby: gianno, last word here. i can agree with rochelle in terms of agree to disagree i think that s great. the honest answer and response to this is that s a different era. the era we live in now with the democratic party you re wrong, i m right. especially with the economy booming like it is, mob violence seems to be the answer that they have. we can be honest about that rochelle, we talk about maxine waters and you said she stepped out of line a little bit. it wasn t a little bit. if obama was in office and republicans said some of the same things that she said, they would be investigated by the fbi. and if obama said for people to be punched in the face, this entire country would go crazy if obama said that. abby: to both your points we can agree to disagree and this conversation will continue on after this. thank you both for being with us this morning. thank you. abby: have a great saturday. the war on cops intensifies. three police officers shot in the line of duty overnight. our law enforcement panel is here to weigh in on what is behind the increased violence. you don t want to miss it next. baby, baby, baby. all you can eat is back, baby. applebee s. if your adventure. .keeps turning into unexpected bathroom trips. .you may have overactive bladder, or oab. ohhhh.enough already! we need to see a doctor. ask your doctor about myrbetriq® (mirabegron). it treats oab symptoms of urgency, frequency, and leakage. it s the first and only oab treatment in its class. myrbetriq may increase blood pressure. tell your doctor right away if you have trouble emptying your bladder or have a weak urine stream. myrbetriq may cause serious allergic reactions. .like swelling of the face, lips, throat or tongue, or trouble breathing. if experienced, stop taking and tell your doctor right away. myrbetriq may interact with other medicines. tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems. common side effects include increased blood pressure, common cold or flu symptoms,. .sinus irritation, dry mouth, urinary tract infection, bladder inflammation,. .back or joint pain, constipation, dizziness, and headache. need some help managing your oab symptoms along the way? ask your doctor if myrbetriq is right for you, and visit myrbetriq.com to learn more. hospitalized. and overnight in los angeles, a female officer shot in the leg. her condition is unknown. the suspect is in custody. the news coming as the number of police dying in the line of duty is on the rise. this year alone, 33 officers have been killed. that s compared to 35 officers killed in all of 2017 and we are just in july. we have a law enforcement panel to talk about what s going on. sergeant sean larkin is with the pull is a police department s gang unit. he is also ane s live feature analyst and the deputy cheeft monday clair police department and former law enforcement official. thank you for joining us this morning. good morning. pete: sobers news. sergeant, i will start with you. what do you make of this trend. almost so the same amount of police officers killed in 2017, why? any officer killed is too many. nowadays i think because of negative media coverage involved in every officer involved shooting we see, i think officers are finding themselves a little hesitant to use deadly force at times even when they re totally justified. the policy covers them that they are finding themselves hesitant to react and unfortunately some officers are getting killed because of it. pete: tracy, i can relate a little bit in a different scenario being in the military, rules of engagement. commanding officer whether they support you or not depends how you feel in that moment. for police officers in new jersey and elsewhere is, it a different environment? are they looked at differently these days? i think police are always looked at differently. as much as we want to be part of the community, the uniform makes us stand out a little bit or mr.. we are always involved in any type of scenario. i mean, we go to medical calls. we go to fire calls. you know, we are there to even help with kids in schools. pete: absolutely. our involvement is at a very high level now in society. pete: that s a great point. now we are talking about school shootings and should police be there. is there a stretch thin environment to it all? do we have enough police? are they asked to do too many things. no, and yes. it s hard to recruit police today nobody wants to get killed. i said last week when i was a mafia prosecutor even the mob did not want to mess with law enforcement because of the ire that it brought. i think what s happening today is in addition to that sea change of culture and lack of respect of police you have other factors that escalate the likelihood of violence. have you black lives matter or white supremacists or ho are often anti-cops. have you people like maxine waters, not to pick on her, that could be of either party who are urging confrontation you have animus towards president trump at times. all of this brings flash point and likelihood of reaction to attack a cop much more quickly than it used to be before. i will say law enforcement has no better friend than president trump. i have been a street cop to white house 30 some years. and i think he will recognize this as if he were watching, this he would pick up the phone and call doj and call the attorney general and say we need more training, we need more equipment. we need to work with the communities. pete: interesting point. the ire would have come from the police community who did that now the ire is more public. have you social media, videos out there. briefly from awful you, sergeant larkin, what needs to change for this to improve? you know, obviously, better relationships with the public. i mean, you know, speaking for my own police department, i know we are active out there in the community trying to be that type of relationship with people. but just as, you know, joe talked about, the social media right now is huge because officers we ll relevant respected and now it s actually almost encouraged on social media, it s posted it s shared when an officer is having a difficult time. it encourages others to keep doing it. that s a major issue. pete: we have to leave it right there. i know this program appreciates what you guys do. a huge swath of america recognizes you put your lives on the line so the rest of can you say live free and safe. thank you for your service. pete: abby, over to you. abby: great job, pete. turning to other headlines we are following this morning. take a look at this bizarre scene. a small plane makes emergency landing during rush hour. the pilot said he had no choice but to land the aircraft after the engine lost power. officials say it was flying to ohio after taking parts in the air show in oshkosh, wisconsin. luckily though no one was injured. the obama administration tens of thousands tax dollars to a group called al qaeda. $150,000 in aid came even after the administration found out about the terror funding connection. a total of $200,000 given to the islamic relief agency to supposedly help provide humanitarian aid to the sudan conflict back in 2004. tensions flair when a brawl breaks out near president trump s new hollywood star. hey, hey. [shouting] [bleep] no, no, no. abby: l.a. police are looking for two men shown throwing punches at trump supporters during a rally. the fight eventually coming to a halt as officers cleared the scene. minor injuries were reported. the president s hollywood star was replaced after recently damaged by a man with a pick ax. and there is this. the crowd goes wild after a scottish dart player throws a perfect game. watch this. gary the flying scottsman anderson shot what s known as a nine darter. he used just nine darts to score 501 points. the notoriously difficult accomplishment is compared to boggle a perfect game. and our own griff jenkins would know because he at one point said he was going to be a professional dart player. griff: only entertained it about 10 seconds. what that guy did is like hitting a hole in one golf. amazing. abby: i believe you could do it, griff. it would have been a different path for you. professional bar drinker, beer drinker at playing darts and drinking beer. that s what griff is thinking, i think. let s be honest. talk a little weather. as you are waking up we have hot and humid conditions across parts of the east. hot across parts of the west. certainly as we are continuing to watch fires and central part of the country a big cool down coming. 61 degrees in chicago and drier air. you are feeling really nice. 72 in atlanta and you see that orange down there across parts of arizona and southern california that s where the heat still is. even during the overnight hours. here is how the day plays out. another batch of scattered showers today. nothing as severe as we saw yesterday. we will see on and off scattered showers. down across parts of the southeast, put this map in motion for you. heavier showers to start the day. across eastern parts of oklahoma and areas of arkansas. other than that, we will continue to watch the heat build across parts of the south. all right. guys, back to you inside. abby: thank you, rick. griff: well done. he had a bulls eye on that weather report. i will just say. abby: well done, griff. griff: young people are all for alexandria ocasio-cortez and her promises of everything. who is going to pay for it? in your mind should pay for all of the free things? all the free things? well, some of it should come from taxes but the government should pay for it. but the government is funded by taxes. yeah. sometimes, bipolar i disorder can make you feel unstoppable. but mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on shaky ground. help take control by talking to your doctor. ask about vraylar. vraylar is approved for the acute treatment of manic or mixed episodes of bipolar i disorder in adults. clinical studies showed that vraylar reduced overall manic symptoms. vraylar should not be used in elderly patients with dementia due to increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, or confusion, which may mean a life-threatening reaction, or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be permanent. side effects may not appear for several weeks. high cholesterol and weight gain; high blood sugar, which can lead to coma or death; decreased white blood cells, which can be fatal; dizziness upon standing; falls; seizures; impaired judgment; heat sensitivity; and trouble swallowing may occur. you re more than just your bipolar i. ask about vraylar. to help you lose your dad bod, train for that marathon, and wake up with the patience of a saint. the new sleep number 360 smart bed, from $999. smarter sleep will change your life. free education and healthcare. how are we going to pay for those? oh, god. i mean,. us? us, i guess. who, in your mind should pay for all of the free things. all the free things? well, some of it should come from taxes but the government should pay for i it. but the government is funded by taxes. yeah. abby: the money has got to come from somewhere. democratic socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez claims that most things in life should be free but it seems that many supporters don t know how she is going to end up paying for it. griff: campus reform cabot phillips is here with latest video. i love that you were explaining how things work with some these youngsters. they definitely need plenty of help and understanding that the government cannot in fact fund every single thing you want for free even though your feelings might be hurt by that it s important to understand that fact. it s tempting to laugh around the rise of socialism. it s not a joking matter. serious issue millennials likely to fall for it are the largest voting block in america. fund all these free things. i don t know where the money would come from but they can figure it out. [laughter] more taxes on the rich people. for sure, man, like they can afford it,. tax corporations and tax the 1% and find a way to support a living wage. the people with a good idea and good reason to spend their tax money wouldn t mind actually paying more taxes. pete: and not to mention she talked about gutting the military. i mean ultimately it s we have to slash our military to pay for all of. this exactly. it seems like all the students don t have a grip on history. they don t. they are not being taught history and economic courses. universities no longer making civics and government economic requirement. many students it s hard to blame them. they don t have a context of history they don t know socialism. they don t understand the best way to bring people out of poverty are to give them freedom of opportunity and give them equal opportunity, free markets and actually, i think context there is helpful for them. griff: maybe we should send some of these folks to venezuela on a field trip. abby: they will want to come back pretty quickly. i m sure their ideology will fall apart quite quickly. how we have demonized success in america. many people are taught if you are wealthy, you only got that way because you stole it from someone less fortunate or less privileged. and i think after 8 years of class war ware under president obama young people are coming to age thinking if someone else is rich, it must be because they did something wrong. instead of teaching to emulate success we taught them to drag successful people down and that s the wrong way of doing things. pete: great point. abby: great to have you on. griff: president trump has a new message for ice as yet another sanctuary city tries to block them from doing their job. we will share it with you just ahead. pete: twitter fighting against claims that they shadow ban prominent conservatives. the next guest says the president was right to point them out for it my life is here. 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who complains and reports on particular accounts? and liberals do that proportionately more than conservatives. when twitter uses that as a factor to declare these accounts low quality, they are putting their finger on the scale. abby: also a systemic thing. you need to have people in your company that think differently. jim hanson, always good to have your take. my pleasure. griff: reasons priebus, mercedes schlapp and gregg jarrett all coming up. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, little things can be a big deal. that s why there s otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it s a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, . with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don t use if you re allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell your doctor if these occur. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. other side effects include upper respiratory tract infection and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you re pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. oscar mayer deli fresh ham has no added nitrates, nitrites or artificial preservatives. now deli fresh flavor is for everyone. like those who like. sweet. those who prefer heat. and those who just love meat. oscar mayer deli fresh. a fresh way to deli. important to me. i never protests. i never protested during the anthem. i don t think that s the time or venue to do so to bring such controversy to the state and to the field and the game takes away from the joy and love that football brings a lot of people. alexandria ocasio-cortez just elected. her platform includes free healthcare, college televisiontuition,human wage hog to pay for those? oh, god. the sun is up. griff: the sun is up. it s finally quit raining. abby: what s this for? pete: 4.1. griff: this is a thing now? pete: 4.1. abby: that s not 6, it s 5. it s early, right? we are all getting up early. griff: just waking up hearing the news. pete has a good point. this is the time for everyone to be happy which is the economy is booming. it s the fact it s been growing since 2014. 4.1 g.d.p. is obviously what is he referring. to say the president took that opportunity. you were there at the white house yesterday where they have a lot to be happy about when it comes to the economy. a lot the american people can be happy about. here is what he said yesterday about where we are with the economy. indeed a big one. we have accomplished an economic turn around of historic proportions. once again, we are the economic envy of the entire world. as the trade deals come in one by one, we re going to go a lot higher than these numbers. and these are great numbers. these numbers are very, very sustainable. this isn t a one-time shot. if economic growth continues at this pace, the united states economy will double in size more than 10 years faster than it would have under either president bush or president obama. pete: even the failing new york times calls it a hot economy. there is no way to put it elsewhere. you unleash the business and the free market, this is what you get. the problem is so many of the naysayers believe that america s best days are behind us. that we are managing our decline. part of the reason why americans voted for this president, a big part of it is he said i still believe in you. i still believe in those industries they said are gone. manufacturing, construction, energy, the future will be determined by them. and here we are with those industries coming back and jobs coming back. pretty cool moment. abby: a lot of people don t want to give the president credit. year and a half into the presidency. this is a time when you can say this quarter is when tax reform has taken effect. can you talk about deregulation. companies that are spending more. the american people that are spending more. pete: consumer confidence. abby: look at the policies that have been put in place with this administration. you can t say there has not been an impact on where the country is right now. did you go back to older headlines just a year ago. griff: this is my favorite part. abby: they weren t so optimistic about where we would be today. griff: cnn, donald trump promises 4% growth. economists say no way. l.a. times if trump thinks he is get more than 3% economic growth, he s dreaming. pete: this is important, that is truly the way the elites viewed our economy. the way elites viewed america. china is on the ascendant. the international order is on the ascendant. america the nation state these things are on the decline. he ran against that very theory and for capitalism against socialism and that s what has happened. griff: paul krugman of your beloved failing new york times. pete: master of conventional wisdom. griff: after the president was elected in november he said with regards to what we can expect, putting an irresponsible ignorant man takes advice from all the wrong people in charge of the nation s economy would be very bad news. a terrible thing has just happened. i don t think anyone would disagree that 4.1% with more in sight is a bad thing. pete: paul krugman, i can t wait for his next new york times article. tell me why 4.1% growth is a bad thing he? will try. so look for it in the new york times. abby: critics would say it s not sustainable. how do you keep this going for a long time. the president said yesterday in his remarks when you were there, griff. you heard, this that whenever he travels abroad he said so often the leaders of other countries congratulate me on the economy that we have here in america. that is how the world views the success of another country is how their economy is doing. how their country is booming. he said that is the greatest success we can have as a nation is if our economy is doing well. griff: you wondered how other nations viewed former president obama or might have been president clinton. here is obama and clinton talking about the trump economy. take a listen. some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back. and when somebody says that he is going to bring all these jobs back. how is he going to do that? what are you going to do? you might think because he spent his life as a businessman he would be better prepared to handle the economy. well, it turns out he is dangerous there too. pete: might think because he has run things he might be better with the economy. he is. think about the audacity of the community organizer and career politician, effectively saying that businessman he wouldn t know what to do. how dare you think he might know how to market our economy, unleash the free economy, cut taxes and regulations. small business owners, you see that event in illinois with those manufacturers, who said my job was gone and now it s back because america can build things better than anyone else in the world, believing in your people is what your chief cheerleader should do. that s what trump has done. abby: all three of us have been out in the field and we have traveled the country the past year. we have talked to voters. i can t tell you how many have said i feel like small business owners have said i feel like i can hire more people. i feel like can i provide more for my family. that makes me a happy person. griff: yeah. abby: that has a real impact on the elections. it will be so interesting to see how the mid terms play out. with the economy doing well, the democrats, what is their message going to be, right? i think they are still trying to figure out what their soul is who they are. hard to do when the economy is doing well. griff: what you summed up is confidence. they have confidence in the economy. you know, there is another thing happening across the country as we have all traveled and that is the lack of confidence that so many and really the lack of respect that people have having for ice, for our law enforcement. and, you know, that was something this week that president trump will not let go. these law enforcement officers, whether they be ice or border patrol or others, to know that he has confidence in them. just real quick, pete, let s take a listen to what the president said about standing with us. one of the critical lessons of 9/11 is that immigration enforcement saves lives. we must enforce the rules against visa fraud, illegal overstay, illegal entry, and other immigration violations and crimes. and crimes they are. yet, leading democrat politicians have called to abolish ice. without the brave heroes of ice, we would have no enforcement, no laws, no borders, and, therefore, we wouldn t even have a country. to the courageous public servants at ice, we want you to know that the american people are with you and my administration has your back 100 percent. pete: say what you want. but this administration knows how to message and stay on message and hit the key items, right? it s 4.1% g.d.p. growth. the economy, jobs, jobs, jobs. and immigration. we re going to stand with law enforcement. we believe in borders. and they feel like going into the 2018 mid terms if we stay focused on delivering on the economy, and litigating border security and ice against the party that says we don t want a wall and we want to abolish ice, they feel like those are winning messages. that was the weekly address. you choose what you talk about each week and they re staying focused on those issues. abby: they need that morale boost because you have so many in this country helping to protect us and make us safer. it s really difficult when you have local leaders and local mayors around the country that don t want to support ice. that want to make it more difficult. that tell their cities don t report things. don t help ice do their job. that s exactly what we heard from the mayor of philadelphia. jim keny, right? is that his name who we hear from all the time. he said we are not going to provide them with any information so they can go out and round people up. i cannot in good conscience allow the agreements to continue. all of us have ancestors who were once immigrants. all of us. this the complete opposite message of what we heard from president trump. as i said with these mid terms. the parties couldn t be further apart, right, in what they stand for and the type of country they want to live. in the american people are going to have a real choice this time around of what they want. griff: here is a problem with the mayor s statement. the border patrol stops them owe f.d.r. about. gang members a threat to the nation it is ice that then rounds them up as he says. so we are talking about opening up the borders if we get rid of ice. pete: classic conflation of immigrants vs. illegals. especially illegals who commit crimes. shelter them you are hurting the citizens that live in your jurisdiction. abby: send us what you think at friends@foxnews.com. starting with a fox news alert and serious one. two officers shot while responding to a disturbance call in massachusetts. the falmouth police chief identifying the officers as ryan moore and meranda. one officer hit twice in the chest the other grazed by a bullet to the head. this is happening way too much. we have got to return back to a time when police officers are respected. and it s not okay to shoot a police officer. abby: the suspect was also shot and will be taken into custody once he is out of the hospital. both officers, luckily, are expected to be okay. meanwhile, overnight in los angeles, a female officer is now recovering after being shot in the leg. the suspect was also shot still unclear what led to that shooting. both of their conditions are unknown. and now to another fox news alert. five children and one adult all from the same family are killed in a massive motel fire. the children range in ages from 2 to 10. the woman was 26 years old. the 2-year-old child is in the hospital being treated. the fire destroyed about 90% of the motel in southwest michigan where 27 rooms were occupied. the cause is still under investigation. we ll keep an eye on that one. and there is. this a top cbs executive now accused of sexual misconduct in a bombshell report. six women now say the cbs chairman and ceo less moonves made unwanted advances on them. the story published in the new yorker also lays out accusations of gender discrimination and retaliation by more than a dozen women. the alleged incidents took place 1980s and late 2,000s. the 68-year-old executive released a statement saying this in part he regrets mistake that he made in the past but never used his position to harm anyone s career. and there is this: the florida officer helps a homeless man get back on his feed, helping him prepare for a job interview. the cop first went viral when he was spotted shaving phil s beards. well, phil told the officer he had an opportunity to get a job at mcdonald s if he showed up with a clean shave. at the interview, phil was then told the job would be his as long as he could provide a florida id. so the officer took him to the dmv to get a license. phil is doing janitorial work with absolute room for growth. what a great story that is. pete: great stuff. abby: i love to hear that. griff: r50e8 quick we don t much time. study evite poll about birthdays found 52% of men have forgotten about their partner s birthday but only 24% of women have ever forgotten s their man s birthday. does that ring true with you? [laughter] abby: i m surprised it s only 52%. it s not just birthdays anyway. it s any date. anniversaries. i mean, i love my husband to death. but getting him to remember some of those days, that s part of the woman s job. griff: i play guilty. i m part of the 52%. in fairness my wife and i often forget our anniversary. pete: that s good. so much love, right, griff? abby: no, no, no, no. griff: i m going with that. pete: email us friends@foxnews.com has your husband or wife epically forgotten a birthday. abby: not super scientific. i think it rings true. pete: absolutely. friends@foxnews.com. email us. enough op-ed says one man can unite democrats. james comey. but our next guest says that is a lesson he says it is pure hypocrisy. over the last 24 hours, you finished preparing him for college. in 24 hours, you ll send him off thinking you ve done everything for his well-being. but meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hours. while meningitis b is uncommon, about 1 in 10 infected will die. like millions of others, your teen may not be vaccinated against meningitis b. meningitis b strikes quickly. be quick to talk to your teen s doctor about a meningitis b vaccine. names on the democratic list. jim comey not one of them. could he unite democrats. i think james comey is a patriot. i think he served his country throughout his life i think as a private citizen he is continuing to do what he thinks is in the best interest of the united states. him uniting the democrats i don t think is going to happen. the way he handled the hillary clinton email investigation, i think has left a lot of democrats still feeling a little bitter. i just don t see it happening. doesn t have a constituency in the democratic party. pete: great point. weighs a republican supposedly before. he has now called on rejecting the socialist left. you are from brooklyn a cortez from bronx who is a democratic socialist was recently chosen. is she the future is socialism and folks like her the future of your party. i want to clarify that because i think when people hear the word socialism they have visions of venezuela amend the soviet union. pete: yep. i think there is a difference between democratic socialism and the type of. pete: so soft socialism? i m not a member of dsa. i don t want to clarify about that. but what i will say is i think our budget is the priority that we set for our country and i think saying everyone should have access to universal healthcare or affordable housing or investing in public infrastructure or public schools or public art, i think that s something that is going to be decided in this election. pete: but, to that point, the question is then who pays for it? that is a very different view of the world. so president trump has said i want a strong military and i want to cut taxes. i want to let people be free. your argument would be reduce our military. well, pete, who paid for the bush tax cuts? who paid for the war in iraq? pete: we all do. who paid for the trump tax cuts. exactly we all do. so we can all chip in for something that helps us as opposed to those endless wars in the middle east. pete: we can argue about the wars i can get that whether they had a utility to national security. argument to healthcare and free tuition someone is paying for it directly is that just raising taxes? is the platform raising taxes? i think we need to look at how it is going to get paid for. no question. right now financing and borrowing from the future to give handouts to the top 1% right now. if we can. pete: a lot of people in the 1% got hit by the tax reform because they are paying more. i don t believe that. pete: you don t have to believe it it s true. i don t think that s true. pete: people pay more taxes. we are seeing corporations give buy backs to their shareholders. pete: small businesses pay a smaller rate is that bad? where does this 4.1% growth come from. no one is denying that 4.1% g.d.p. growth is definitely a good thing for the united states of america. i will say when you look at the tax reform, you are having these multinational corporations buy back their shares. we have seen wages drop, actually, for the vast majority of americans. pete: wages drop? that s counter to the data. bloomberg. check it out. pete beat we will check that out and get back to you. nathan, thank you very much. thank you. pete: few remaining survivors of the disaster. the author of the book detailed the tragedies were there live coming up next. wrnk keep it comin love. if you keep on eating, we ll keep it comin . all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee s. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. chicken! that s right, chicken?! candace new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat. mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! to me, he s, phil micwell, dad.o golfer. so when his joint pain from psoriatic arthritis got really bad, it scared me. and what could that pain mean? 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well, this was a ship that, you know, traditionally has been known as a sinking story. it has such a grand history to it the flag ship of the fifth fleet commanded the pacific war from the decks of this ship. i mean, it was president roosevelt ship of state. first time president had gone out of the state during his presidency. this carried all the way through recover the sinking story. then we go on to tell about the captain and his exoneration for being court martialled for the sinking of the slip. it covers 1940 all the way through present day. pete: the uss indianapolis had just delivered the bomb used to end world war ii on the way back, it gets two japanese torpedos and go down with the ship. 900 go into the water. talk to us a little bit about what happened there. what happened next was five nights and four days of hell. only about 30 men had rafts. and the remaining only were having life jackets clinging to each other. many died of exposure, of wounds, dehydration. some of them started drinking salt water which is a terrible way to die. and in the end only 316 survived. of course, there is the shark stories as well. abby: such an important story to tell especially for next generation that don t know a lot of what happened during that imtoo. talk with us, before we let you go, just how special that reunion was. this may be the last time that you get our veterans that served in world war ii all together in the same place. you both were there. how special was that? spending time with these veterans that are incredible heroes and who didn t talk about it for 70 years, they wouldn t talk about their story. and we can all learn from something from that. they came home from the war. they bucked up. they got to work and they did what they needed to do. and these reunions were the first time that they could talk to each other about something that only they could understand together. and that was healing for all of them. and then for us just being part of that and being age to share those stories that they have entrusted us with has been an incredible experience. pete: you say this book helps or there has been exoneration of the captain. why was he court martialled briefly and what s the exoneration? he was court martialled for failure to zigzag which sounds really strange but that was an anti-submarine technique. he had discretion to zigzag and chose not to. they really needed someone to blame. it was at the end of the war between that and another sinking about a thousand lives had been lost. and they pin the blame at the lowest level. and we learned decades later that the navy knew at the time that there were many other people who should have been held accountable instead of the captain. griff: very powerful. thank you so much. it is an incredible story in indianapolis of the worst sea disaster in naval history a lot of lessons. pete: it s already out. the book is indianapolis. abby: such as important part of our his strismt ladies, great to have you here. thank you. griff: new marijuana bill letting federal workers caught smoking pot to keep their jobs. abby: plus alexandria ocasio-cortez has big ideas in mind to fund her socialist policies. listen. if people pay their fair share, if corporations and the ultra wealthy, if we reverse the tax bill, close some of those loopholes, that s $2 trillion right there. abby: what does dan bongino think of that response? 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yeah, pete, she is also speaking for people who don t read books. because almost nothing she said in that clip was factually correct. ronald reagan, yes, ronald reagan actually raised a couple of taxes when he raised those taxes, tax revenue went down. when he cut income taxes significantly, tax revenue went up. so what she is talking about about raising taxes she has very little evidence going to produce more revenue. number two, she confusing the entire military budgets, pete, with the increase. the entire military budget is around 700. they didn t ask for $700 billion increase. she is running for congress. duped this, right? not only by the way, the lies go on or the mistruths or whatever the focus group tested word is and then she says and they didn t even ask for it general mattis actually lobbied for the increase. dolls she not know that did she just make up this whole thing? at what point is she going to go on the air and say something that is factually correct? this is now, what, 100 interviews where she has filibustered something big. this is embarrassing now. griff: dan, let me just tell you, she clearly is pointing out some of the weaknesses of the g.o.p. she tweeted that the g.o.p. is weak on fighting for working class americans. weak on crime, work on equal rights. weak on national security, weak on rejecting racism, weak on moral courage and family values. she says hey, look, this is a problem with the republican party. what say you? yeah, yeah. that s just a genius tweet. weak on borders. we want a border wall that l. will definitely weaken the border. weak on family values. s that fascinating. griff is, she just making this up? seriously? she may need an intervention after this tweet. that is insane. why would you even write that? she doesn t even understand basic facts by the way. when she says the thing about fair share? you know the top 1% of earners pay 40% of income taxes. big federal income taxes. think about that. one out of 100 people working their butts out there is paying 40 cents of every dollar. the top 20% of earners are paying 70 to 80%. now, by the way, new rules on talking about the economy since trump is in office and i want to thank him for this. one we are not apologizing for hard work anymore. number two, we don t owe a dime more captain federal government. not a dime. every time we give you a dollar you waste it you flushed our social security down the toilet. have you ruined the education system. you are drowning us in 20 trillion in debt. we are not giving you any more money. do you hear what we are talking about? in rules. no mosque, no more money for you. have you ruined all your credibility. it s not that the government is too big it s too dumb to spend our money the right way. we will keep it now thank you very much. abby: dan, there are a lot of democrats who think she is the future of the party. they love the message she is talking with a lot of young people as well. free education, free healthcare, who doesn t want that? the big question as we all are talking about this morning is where is that money going to come from? how are you going to pay for it? cabot phillips who is on our show all the time he goes out and gets an idea of how people are thinking in this country. he went to college campuses and asked them about these policies. he went to her district. abby: here is what they said about how going to pay for this. her platform includes free healthcare, free tuition, living minimum wage and housing. are those things you think the government should be providing for people. absolutely. 100 percent. i feel like everyone should have free education and healthcare. how are we going to pay for those? oh, god. i mean,. us. us, i guess. who, in your mind should pay for all of the free things? all the free things? well, some of it should come from taxes but the government should pay for it. but the government is funded by taxes. yes. there you have it, dan. that last answer was epic because it sums up the entire progressive movement. how far are we going to pay for it? by taxes but then the government can pay for the rest as if the government has like a money fairy. like there is a money fairy that sprinkles money all around. do you understand like the black hole of intellectualism the current progressive movement lives in? they don t understand. it reminds me of a melton freidman analogy where he said the great myth of progressivism you think your neighbor is paying for it but your neighbor saying the same thing. they think you are paying for it they really believe there is a money fairy out there. i applaud ocasio-cortez for doing the hard work. i ran for congress, i lost. i knocked on a lot of doors. nice job. i m being serious here. she is running for congress. she knows very little about what she is talking about. if she is going to be the future of the party, she owes the voters out there some semblance of reality, and she is not living in it now. pete: dan, based on those yachts behind you in that shot you are clearly one of those 1 percenters. i m proud. i earn my money and i m proud of it. enough rules i m not apologizing any more. pete: good man. griff: send the money fair uphere we could use a yacht. abby: it is hoth though in florida. i don t envy him too much. but a yacht sounds nice. other headlines i want to bring you this morning. starting here. four of the nine family members who died in the doomed duck boat, they are laid to rest. hundreds showing up to support the surviving relatives at a ceremony in indianapolis. tia coalman was with 10 family members on that tragic day when she lost her husband and their three children. the tourist boat capsized during a violent storm in missouri, killing 17 people. the nbc is buildin nbc is build- ntsb is building a. only valid in states where marijuana use is legal. so far 30 states have passed laws allowing residents to use medical marijuana, including nine that have now legalized recreational use. remember how vice president mike pence was treated while attending the musical hamilton? [crowd booing] well, take a look at this. watch how presidential candidate hillary clinton was treated at broadway s hello dolly. [cheers and applause] a little different scene there. receiving a standing ovation. well, one fan was heard shouting, quote: you can still beat 46. referring to the 46 president. the difference in this country. you remember that time with mike pence handled it with such class. he sat there and took it. griff: he knew hello dolly was still playing. pete: the take away. rick: don t they get recycled? they come back. i still haven t seen hamilton. abby: really? griff: i haven t seen it either. abby: you should go. it s fabulous. rick: we have to find tickets and go. we can t afford the tickets. that s the whole point. take a look at the weather maps. waking up this morning. here is your temps. spectacular day across places like minneapolis and chicago. temps are going to be beautiful summer temps and not humid at all, which is going to be great. still very hot and humid across much of the eastern seaboard. one line of storms moved through yesterday. causing some big troubles. and we are going to see some more showers fire across parts of florida later on in the day today. and we will see some more showers across parts of the northeast. not as bad as yesterday. take a look at the temps throughout the day today. we are still hot out across parts of the west. 101 in reno. back 110 in redding where the car fire is going on. you get the idea we stay in this same pattern for much of this coming week. things are cooler around the great lakes. down across the ohio valley and into the day on wednesday. marquette 63 still in july. that is very chilly. wednesday, guys, is that august 1st? help me out here? there you go august 1st marquette 63. not bad. abby: we are still talking about hello dolly in here, rick. pete: i didn t know it was still showing. abby: thanks, rick. pete: still a thing. i m not going to be a hater. if you love it, you love it whatever. rick is like get me out of here. all right. well, moving on, cowboys quarterback zac prescott has a new message for the nfl anthem kneelers. he says it s time for the protesters to do something instead of kneeling. i guess i m going to hit the streets and find out what the american people think in just a few minutes. abby: i cannot wait for that. pete: we ll be right back. -and we welcome back gary, who s already won three cars, two motorcycles, a boat, and an r.v. i would not want to pay that insurance bill. 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yeah, exactly. griff: why won t they give president trump credit for the booming economy? joining us now is managing he had ever to olympic media katie frakes. happy saturday. i m so happy to be here up with you finally in new york. griff: the president said his policies were going to raise this economy. it now clearly has why can t and i was there yesterday in the president was making this announcement in the rose garden. why is it some in the media won t give him credit. they love to hate him. that s heir favorite thing. if trump is going to say that s historic. that s his manner of speaking. everything is the best. everything is the greatest. it s never happened before. so if you want to point out that it did happen under obama or bush, that s fine. you can also be happy that the economy is strong and american families are doing better and there is less people on food stamps. but it seems like they just want to focus on whatever negative aspect of this they can clutch to. and that s kind of sad. and yesterday, at the very end of that announcement, he pointed to the trade deficit as a very significant thing. whether it s the deregulation or tax cuts, there is also the trade deficit cut is a strategy and they won t even engage in discussion over why this is sustainable. right. and they can t i don t think they can stomach the idea of giving him any amount of credit for anything. and, yes, the economy, you can t always interpret it to just one president. that s not quite how the economy works. i think credit is due here in that these deregulations make it easier for people to go back to work. making it easier for businesses to do their jobs. clearly it s had an effect in getting us to 4.1%. is that sustainable in the long run? probably not. historically that s just thought how it goes. if is great, great news. there is no other way to spin it than that. griff: let s talk about quarter three. the administration, the president says this is definitely going to continue for the next quarter. we will be just days away from the midterm elections, what will the media say then? if it continues on at a rated that this high or close to it, i think that s probably bad news for democrats. it s hard to campaign on impeaching trump when more so have you such a strong economy behind him. and that s what americans care about the most is it easier for them to save for their kid s college and put food on the table? they care more about that than they do impeaching trump. if that s the only things they have got on the mid terms. griff: thank you very much. we will bring you back when the quarter three ends and see what the media has to say then. thank you very much. thanks. griff: straight ahead reince priebus and mercedes schlapp coming up. twitter claims that they shadow banned conservatives whavmentd does this mean for conservatives in social media? that s coming up tweets, oftentimes in the days following they see of a lot of their social media numbers. when you think about it, the social media cartel, twitter, facebook, instagram, they create algorithms that show us what we want to see that gives them enormous power to control what we do see. and i think that they are not being honest with it. abby: all right. here s the statement from twitter. they say we certainly don t shadow ban on viewpoints or ideology. for the most part we believe the issue had to do more with how the people were interacting with these representatives accounts than the accounts themselves. they are saying we don t have a problem here. we are not trying to treat someonen the republican side any different than on the democratic side. of course twitter is going to say that look at how an overwhelming majority that these employees at the silicon valley company does not share our ideologies. cultural elitism that believes a few people in an ivory tower should make decisions for every day americans, these people don t want free thought. and it s more than that they don t want it, it s that the left knows that when our ideas compete with their ideas we win. that s what our young influencers see on campus every day. we see a markedly different story online. believe capital schism a great idea. a lot of the students love this country. online i don t think that s properly represented because these companies are doing everything they can to change the conversation. abby: either way these companies have real challenges they have got it figure out. great to have you on this morning. great to see you this morning. good to be here. abby: daca prescott says he has a message for protesters. he said time to do something than just to kneel. pete is going to hit the streets. we have never seen this before. is he going to find out what the american people think. stay tuned for that reince priebus and mercedes schlapp and gregg jarrett all here live. two big hours live until the go on fox & friends this saturday morning plus intense craving relief. every great why needs a great how. p3 it s meat, cheese and nuts. i keep my protein interesting. oh yea, me too. i have cheese and uh these herbs. p3 snacks. the more interesting way to get your protein. tired of wrestling with seemingly impossible cleaning tasks? 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it s great to see and i agree with a couple of guests you had on this morning which is everyone should at least say this is great news for the country and give the president his due. you know, on the first few days of his administration, one of the most consequential things he did was sign an executive order that said for every two regulations for every regulation that s put in, two regulations have to be eliminated. and i think something like today it s anywhere from 15 to 20 regulations have been eliminated for every one that s been put in. and you are seeing the effects. now, as far as the midterm, it s really bad news for the democrats. because, without this good news, the president s approval number was anywhere from 8 to 13 points higher today than it was on election day when he won. so, on election day when he won, the president was at 37% today he is anywhere from 45 to 50. one last thing, the reason that s important is democrat turnout is concentrated much lower than republican turnout. here s why it matters. in 2014, the democrats actually held an advantage over the republicans in 2014 the wall street journal, nbc, abc, cnn had the democrats ahead and the republicans won 13 seats. very bad for the democrats. the president s approval numbers alone are problematic for them. abby: i was going to say what is the message then that republicans should be using. as you said mid terms around the concerner and that s what you are working so hard on to get the base out to vote. what is their message? how do they speak to this economy and numbers we are now looking at 4.1% g.d.p.? how do they seize on that opportunity for some success on their end? well, keep in mind, it s important for everyone to understand, these midterm elections are really in a very limited amount of seats. and these are basically moderate congressional districts. they and many of them, about 23 of them, all you have to lose, they were actually won by hillary clinton, even though a republican in that congressional seat won. so the republican won, but hillary clinton won, which goes back to what i said before why it s so important that actually the president s numbers are much better, which are going to help in those districts. but what those folks need to do is what they are doing right now, which is look at the fundamentals. that s what i have been saying the last six months. the fundamentals of the trump economy is that alone is a winning message. look what s been happening on the economy. look what s been happening on wage growth, which, for the first time in a long time is increasing under president trump. and then look at what s happening on isis, on the courts. the basic fundamentals, people don t have a lot of time to digest every little bit of minut minute sushi minut. the president s record is doing well for this country and work well in moderate districts. pete: absolutely. griff: third quarter is going toned right before the election. we will z. if that s a game changer. thanks for joining us. abby: speaking of the mid terms you are hearing on the left. specifically here in new york. from the bronx from alexandria ocasio-cortez who has completely opposite perspective of how she wants the economy to go. and how she handle our taxes and how we deal with our spending and she talks about a lot of socialist ideas. right? she is a socialist who wants free medicare, free education and she so she is also tapping the republicans on an area she thinks they are weak in. this is a tweet she sent out. g.o.p. is weak on fighting for middle class americans. weak on crime weak on rejecting racism. weak on moral courage. weak on family values. so, yeah, i would say this is a representative choice of their values. pete: this is a new socialist darling from the bronx versus capitalism. ultimately that s what we re dealing with right now. capitalism vs. socialism. and you are talking about it s almost like when you are accused of something, you deny and counter accuse. to accuse the republicans of being weak on the border, being weak on national security after spending on the military at the decimation of isis, it is they don t have anything to run on. they are picking out moments and trying to make it play opposite day. voters aren t going to buy it when their pocketbook gets strong and they know who stands for the border and the military. when they look at the supreme court picks. when they look at the v.a. and the focus that the president has put on there those things really matter for people that voted for him. as reince said stick to the core issues and the republicans will be in better shape. abby: darling of the democratic party. people like that message. they want to talk about free education and free healthcare. folks saying have you got to do more research. it doesn t work that way. the money has got to come from somewhere. dan bongino was on last hour and here is what he said about that. that s just the genius tweet. yeah. weak on borders. we want a border wall that will definitely weaken up the border. weak on family values? that s a fascinating new twist. she may need intervention after that tweet. that s insane. i applaud alexandria ocasio-cortez. she is running for congress. she knows very little about what she is talking about. if she is going to be the future of the party, she owes the voters out there some semblance of reality and she is not living in it now. griff: dan says, is she the future of the party there? this is very significant. what you are going to see and this is an observation that the democratic party is going to have its own small civil war here before the midterm elections because she is pulling them so far left. when it was bernie sanders you expected it now it is this candidate in the bronx. albeit perhaps more democrat-liberal corner, she is now starting to really gain traction nationally for democrats. you will see people separate. remember, the playbook that won for democrats was conor lamb in pennsylvania. pete: pretending to be a republican. exactly the opposite of what alexandria ocasio-cortez is saying. you will receive a big consternation within the democratic party i think within the next few months. pete: reckoning won t just happen in november of 2018. it will go all the way through the 2020. rye sis tans is heavy. trump derangement syndrome is thick. socialists on the asen dance. where are the old blue dog democrats. do capitalist democrats exist anymore? that is going to be what is at play here here some of the candidates for 2020 have to veer for left. they have to get through the primaries. tough process. steve: steve. griff: i invite to you to the smithsonian to see the exhibit on blue dog democrats. abby: where is my invite? griff: you too. abby: a fox news alert. two officers shot while responding to a disturbance call in massachusetts. the falmouth police chief identifying the injured officers at ryan moore and donald d. member ran do. one officer was hit twice in the chest. the other grazed by a bullet in the head. what happens way too much. we have got to return back to a time when police officers are respected. and it s not okay to shoot a police officer. abby: the suspect was also shot and will be taken into custody once he is out of the hospital. both officers luckily, are expected to be okay. meanwhile, overnight in los angeles, a female officer is recovering after being shot in the leg. the suspect also was shot, still unclear what led to that shooting. both of their conditions are unknown. and now to another fox news alert. five children and one adult all from the same family are killed in a massive motel fire. the children range in ages from 2 to 10. the woman was 26. the 2-year-old child is in the hospital now being treated. the fire destroyed about 90% of the motel in southwest michigan where 27 rooms were being occupied. the cause is still under investigation. and there is this: president trump putting his stamp of approval for michigan s republican primary for u.s. senate. the president tweeting in part this: john james, who is running the republican primary in the great state of michigan is spectacular. vote on august 7th. rarely have i seen a candidate with such great potential, west point graduate. successful businessman and african-american leader. james will join us on the show during the 9:00 hour. you don t want to miss that interview. and there s this. the crowd goes wild after a scottish dart player throws a perfect game. watch this. [cheers] [cheers and applause] the magical 9 dot. shot what s known as a 9 darter. he used just 9 darts to score 501 points. is that what it s called, griff? the difficult accomplishment is something compared to boggle a perfecbowling a perfec. i asked griff because he said he once considered becoming a professional dart player. griff: didn t work out. what s better than playing darts is putting pete on the street. what are people saying throughout. pete: not that far from you about 20 feet. venturing my toe onto the street here. we are talking about the nfl anthem issue. we saw jerry jones come out and say his team will be standing for the anthem this year. america s team. dak prescott the quarterback has come out and said he believes players shouldn t be kneeling. i have got to ask you ma am, what s your name. my name is cathy thorpe annapolis maryland. pete: you have a son in the military. my husband, my two sons and myself. pete: god bless you. the anthem can t figure out what to make of their policy. why can t they? well, i think that i believe in the right to stand for platform but just something during a working setting is the appropriate setting to do that. my husband is a fallen warrior and the flag is very significant for me. and i just think that there is a lot that can be done but not on work time. absolutely. that s a great point. work time and personal time if you want to protest. ma am, what s your name. irene weaver. pete: irene, you also have folks in the military. i was in the military. pete: you were in the military. yes. i m an immigrant here to america. so 30 years. pete: i love that when you look at the nfl, and not requiring players to stand, how does that make you feel. pretty sad employer of these people out there on the field we are paying money to. pete: if the owner says you should stand or get out, do you agree with that. i think they should stand or get out. i agree and don t get paid for the day. pete: don t get paid for the day. do you agree with that. i agree. anybody disagree with that out here. no. pete: anybody? do you think you should stand for the anthem. absolutely. absolutely. pete: consensus the anthem is pretty precious. ask the folks. pete, abby? abby: pete, you are pretty good like that. griff: i love street pete. is he strong. abby: great stories to tell. president trump showing fresh support for ice as yet another sanctuary city tries to block them from doing their job. a live report from washington next. abby: this 8-year-old boy is pouring cups of lemonade for a great cause to support his local police officers. you will hear from this little boy just ahead. you don t want to miss it. back after this .. in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. only remfresh uses keep 1 in ion-powered melatonin to deliver up to 7 hours of sleep support. number 1 sleep doctor recommended remfresh your nightly sleep companion. available in the natural sleep section at walmart. stop giving aaccess to realtime arrest database and not renew a contract set to expire next month. kenny claims ice is misusing the information from database. specifically they are gathering names and addresses of residents who list foreign countries of origin and conducting sweeps of homes and workplaces that include law abiding immigrants. we re not going to provide them additional information so they can go out and round up people. some federal officials are pushing back against the mayor saying this decision puts u.s. citizens in danger and president trump is taking it as an opportunity to double down on his own support for the embattled agency. without the brave heroes of ice, we would have no enforcement, no laws, no borders. and, therefore, we wouldn t even have a country. to the courageous public servants at ice, we want you to know that the american people are with you and my administration has your back 100 percent. now, as a so-called sanctuary city, philadelphia is already limited cooperation with ice in recent months it, won t release inmates to the agency without a judicial warrant. mayor kenny claims ice has created fear and distrust among the city s immigrant community. and through their actions is actually making it more difficult for police to solve real crimes. guys, back to you. pete: of course. abby: thank you, gillian. pete appreciate it if you don t work with the law enforcement it s harder to solve crimes. abby: yeah. griff: that mayor is going to possibly really make this a midterm election talking point about whether or not you support our law enforcement officers because, again, if you want to get rid of ice, then go to the voting booth, right? don t disteenager city in jail, ice says we hold them so we can detain them here illegally. no, going to let them go. abby: voters certainly have a choice one way or the other what country they want to live in november. now to a fox news alert. north korea begins returning what are believed to be the remains of u.s. servicemen killed during the korean war. joey jones is a marine veteran who lost both of his legs in a bomb blast in afghanistan. he has a powerful message about the meaning of these remains returning back to u.s. soil. griff: plus white house senior advisor for strategic communications mercedes schlapp is here live coming up. you do not want to miss that. i m going to ask her how b. how people are feeling at 1600 pennsylvania. so to breathe better, i go with anoro. go your own way copd tries to say, go this way. i say, i ll go my own way, with anoro. go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma. it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. the risk is unknown in copd. anoro won t replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used 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denied the meeting. we ll follow that abby? abby: thank you, pete. now to a fox news alert. 55 cases containing what are believed to be the remains of u.s. servicemen killed during the korean war returning home after 65 years. griff: president trump thanked kim jong un for the return. that i catake a listen. i want to thank chairman kim for keeping his word. we have many others coming, aboubut i want to thank chairman kim in front of the media for fulfilling a promise he made to me. i m sure he will continue to fulfill that promise as they search and search and search. pete: well, about 5300 american soldiers remains are believed to be still in north korea. joining us is joey jones bomb technician and purple heart recipient for losing his legs in a bomb blast in afghanistan. explain why service member, let alone the korean war, the forgotten borrow is so important. good morning, guys. you know, here in america, we experience the sacrifice of past generations passively. we don t really see it firsthand. each my wars in iraq and afghanistan are more commonly experienced through a peterburg movie than understanding what that sacrifice means. people say things we didn t get much out of these meetings when we re just bringing home a few thousand dead soldiers. what they don t understand or failing to recognize is that these men and women, mostly men in that time, they died so we could set here and ironically say it s not that big of a deal. you know their sacrifice truly comes full circle when we are so free and so comfort be in this country when we can say not a big deal a few thousand service members, a few thousand remains not a big deal. today we stand and we are not forgetting these men. today it s not the forgotten war. today we are remembering them and we are going to have a chance to lay them to rest in the only place they can find rest and only place they should be and that s here at home the land of the free because of the brave just like them. abby: joey, such a good story we need to hear this morning. often called the forgotten war. you think about where we are today and you say the meaning of those meetings that we just had between the two leaders and now what is taking place. how important is this for closure for so many families that were impacted by this war? well, it s incredibly important for those families that actually have loved ones that are coming over. and i know that, you know, some of the antidotal messages out there that are very anti-trump would say many of those families are no longer alive. i think trump said parents and obviously their parents aren t alive. the underlying issue here is that 330 million americans should care, should feel something, and should celebrate bringing these men home. and another thing i want to point out that s often time overlooked is that we sacrifice people today overseas looking for remains. i have got a friend that also almost killed in cambodia doing just that so to understand there is ordnance and planes and booby traps all around these remains and we sacrifice to ogo out and roar them shows just how much it means to us. we are willing to sacrifice links limb and property today to bring those men home. i can t be more proud of our country. i m proud that today our country took a stand and decades later our president took a political risk to bring these men home and i couldn t be more proud. it s a solemn day but happy day for me. griff: one more question, that is how significant is it then that the president says this probably opens up those search mission. the many people don t knowed we were doing a lot of missions, 30 plus missions. then it stopped. it hasn t been done in 10 years. they are going to start this again. general mattis alluding to it yesterday. how significant is is that? i will tell you, look at me. look at my face right now. that s who we are bringing home. and i mean that to say the only difference between me coming home and you seeing me on television right now and those thousands of service members is just technology and opportunity. these are real people. they had a face, a story. they sacrificed and they served. and they felt something laying on foreign soil as they bled out and died. to understanding that s who we are bringing home, that s a huge deal. that s something we should all celebrate and care about and today take a moment to remember. if this means we have more opportunity to go over there and find more of our brothers, that s what we need to do. there isn t a service member alive or none that i know that wouldn t volunteer for that mission and consider it just as important as anything else that we have the opportunity to do in our service. abby: you know the meaning of sacrifice better than anybody. joey jones, always good to have you with us. a message we all need to hear today. thank you, guys. abby: u.s. economy booming to 4.1% g.d.p. growth. mercedes schlapp is with us live with what that means for the 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great numbers. these numbers are very, very sustainable. this isn t a one-time shot. if economic growth continues at this pace, the united states economy will double in size more than 10 years faster than it would have under either president bush or president obama. abby: that was president trump yesterday at the white house touting the booming economy and now we want to bring in mercedes schlapp, white house senior communications advisor. these are great numbers across the board, mercedes, 4.1 g.d.p. growth. i think the big question and you heard the president there. he says these numbers are sustainable. have you got critics who say, you know, they aren t sustainable. these are not numbers you are going to see lasting for a very long time. what is your reaction? oh, absolutely. first of all, we have to remember that the president is you look at this optimism in consumer spending. you see the fact that we are in historic moment in terms of our economic growth. this is the first time in four years that we have seen the g.d.p. break at 4%. remember, it was economist larry summers who basically said that if we get to a 3% growth, that it would be fair enough to say if you were to believe in tooth fairies. right now i have got to till we better start believing in the tooth fairy because we reach to the 4% right now it is sustainable. in the sense that we have seen increased capital investment. so these business investments, for example, before president bush took office, it was only growing at 1.8% increase. look at the fact that president trump has put forth strong economic policies, move forward with strong deregulation reform. and what have you seen is business investment now grow at a pace at 9.4%. that is significant. you are talking about job creation. you are talking about the fact that businesses are restocking their shelves. there is optimism with consumers and with businesses. again, when you look at this, you look at the fact that there is a long-term incentive in terms of businesses being able to invest in america and invest in american workers. that s all due to president trump s vision for a strong economy and his successful economic policies that we re seeing in place. griff: mercedes, let me just ask you then, you talk about the vision and the policies. trade deals are their trade deals in the works, in the pipeline right now that are concrete? absolutely. i mean, you saw this week president trump meet with the eu commission president juncker where they did talk about these principles and starting these negotiations for zero tariffs. and zero nontariff barriers. we got the eu to basically start buying and increasing purchases in soybeans. and basically working with us in terms of in terms of american energy. so, again, we are making significant progress here with the eu. we are working through a nafta deal with mexico, with canada. these are important trade deals. but, one thing about president trump, which is so significant, for too long it s been status quo when it comes to our trade. president trump understands that we need to use these taferls as a negotiating tool. bringing these countries, bringing these leaders to the table to get better trade deals. and that is what the president is working on every day to protect american workers. and we will see these trade deals come through. we saw very significant win this week with the european union and the discussions that they had at the white house. pete: 4% is the tooth fairy i m all for the tooth fairy. my hat is off to her. we are in. we are in. pete: mercedes another topic as there is always multiple cylinders firing. north korea negotiations we saw great news of the american service members remains being returned. speak to that and how does that play into the overall relationship we have ongoing with negotiations with north korea to get that peninsula denuclearized? well, the north koreans obviously delivered on a promise that they made in terms of returning these remains. and we are working diligently to make sure that that process happens. what we know is that this is directly due to the fact that president trump obviously negotiated and worked with chairman kim. and so at this point, what we re seeing is the fact that for presidents, former presidents have tried to bring these remains back and they have failed. it is because of president trump s leadership in terms of being able to take a very difficult, complicated situation as is in the case of north korea, work with them in order to ensure that we bring back the remains of these men and women. those who died for our country. those who died for our freedom and they will be able to lay to rest here on american soil. abby: all right. getting your thoughts now on alexandria ocasio-cortez a woman we have all been talking about, the new darling of the democratic party. pete: socialist darling. abby: social isles out of queens, new york. she was speaking recently about her ideas on socialism and how you pay for that and she compared that to what s going on right now in the white house and the administration and she says spending is out of control. even in places like the military where they didn t even ask for that here s what she said. if people pay their fair share. if corporations and the ultra wealthy, if we reverse the tax bill but raised our corporate tax rate to 28%, if we do those two things and also close some of those loopholes, that s $2 trillion right there. if we implement a carbon tax that s an additional amount of a large amount of revenue that we can have. and then the last key, which is extremely, extremely important is repriorityization. just last year we gave the military a 700 billion-dollar tax budget increase, which they didn t even ask for. pete: they didn t ask for it except secretary mattis did. so raising taxes and gutting the military. well, as you know, that is the mantra of the democrats. and you forgot to include the fact that the democrats also want to abolish ice. obviously and really not move forward on immigration reform. and in terms of securing the border. but, remember, it was the democrats, not one of them voted for the tax cut legislation now that s in law. what we have seen are direct, positive impacts on our economy because of this tax cut law. the fact that you have had millions of americans basically receiving bonuses. we have seen wages starting to increase. you see the fact that consumers are spending. you are seeing $300 billion of money being invest you have had in america by our corporations. this is what we causal a booming economy. this is what we call economic growth. and of my advice to the socialist candidate is to basically say take an economic class with president trump with larry kudlow, kevin has set. our key economic team who has led to this incredible success on our economy. the fact that we are putting americans back to work. the fact that hispanics and african-americans are hugely benefiting from our economy, and that s thanks to what president trump has done in terms of pushing forward a pro-growth economic agenda. pete: that would be a good podcast econ 101 with the president and larry kudlow. i could sign up for that. hey, you just gave me an idea. pete: might not be a bad one. abby: mercedes, great to see you in medicine minister, new jersey. turning now to other headlines we are following closely this morning. turning to a fox news alert. and the desperate search for two young kids and their great grandmother. after their house burns to the ground. the car fire in northern california tripling in size leveling more than 500 homes and threatening 5,000 others. incredible video coming in of fierce flames whipping into fire tornadoes. two firefighters have now been killed. the fire is only 5% contained at this point. and there is this: a doctor is facing charges for overprescribing pain medication leading to the death of a patient. a grand jury indicting the medical profession. he ran a neurology and pain center as well as a medical practice in west virginia. the jury found that he prescribed opioids that were not for legitimate medical purposes for the past five years. he will be back in court next week. yikes. and president trump is awarding the prestigious medal of honor to a fallen air force sergeant. john sergeant was killed in afghanistan in 2002 and credited with saving the lives of his teammates after his helicopter was shot down. he led the effort to rescue one of his comrades despite heavy enemy fire. sergeant chapman will be the first airmen given the medal of honor since the vietnam war. that will be next month. and an 8-year-old boy is rolling up his sleeves in an effort to raise money for his local police department. a goofed thing to do for the police the blue stripes police department because they will stop what they re doing and come out to help people if there is serious trouble. abby: how great is he? in just a few hours brecken simmons is setting up a lemonade stand outside of his house in missouri. don t have to worry about cost he will anything anyone can spare. hoping it make at least $12 for our boys in blue. how great is that? pete: i think he is going to make more than $12. you government regulators, don t try to shut down his lemonade stand. that s a thing now. legal defense fund for lemonade stands because they literally try to shut too many down. good job, kid. we re ready new top iranian general s message to president trump. what s the best way to handle iran? we will ask a special operations intel analyst next. griff: plus geraldo rivera and gregg jarrett both here live. abby: i said it earlier, national milk chocolate day we are pairing beef jerky and other surprisingly delicious foods with chocolate. rick can t have any because is he allergic. pete: what? i m losing you but then they make us kraft mac & cheese and everything s good again. i saw my leg did not look right. i landed. i was 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pragmatic and that can be quite dangerous because even though, you know, we will go out and there is this war of words that is happening right now. we are really not going to win that just based on how these guys think. the president can go out and tweet all he wants about how he is going to obliterate them. they are just going to come back and say okay, yeah, we are going to obliterate you plus one. really, there is always going to be a better way to handle that that s through covert action. pete: what is that covert action? we have scrapped the deal. we still have heavy sanctions on iran we don t want them to get the bomb. this rhetoric has gone back and forth. if you had the ability to put in place measures to take on the iranian regime. what would it be? part of it would be unleashing our special operations guys to go after some of these elements that are upsetting the regional stability. so, you know, if you haven t worked within the intelligence community, you might not know that the iranians are covertly at war with us. i m not so sure that we re really covertly at war with them. that s for years the obama administration has really taken this almost whistle passed it approach to some of the things they have been doing. it s almost as if they have been pretendin pretending iranis weren t responsible for hundreds of american soldiers deaths weren t responsible for provoking naval forces and purging them in the gulf. houthi firing into narpts. we need to really step up our aggressive covert action in this case. that also includes cyber. that also includes allowing the israelis to do what they have been begging to do for while which is to step up their targeting of this organization called the quds force run by general solomony going around upsetting the middle east. pete exporting terrorism around the world. israelis know it more than we do because it s on their doorstep. when america looks the other way and chooses not to see these things the problems only get worse. bret, thank you for your time. thanks, pete. pete: he flew helicopters in iraq and then ran a successful business. now john james is running for michigan senate seat. and he just got the endorsement of the president. he joins us live next hour. and, it is national milk chocolate day. so, of course, we are celebrating with some, what? is this right in the prompter? avocados and other food you wouldn t expect to go with chocolate. i guess we are going to try it. the chocolate will be good. how will the combo be? favorite girl [cheers] check out the bass pro shops and cabela s sporting classic for great deals. like these peltor electronic earmuffs for under $60. and save 20% on all in-stock caldwell rests. bass pro shops and cabela s. your adventure starts here. chicken! that s right, chicken?! candace new chicken creations from starkist. buffalo style chicken in a pouch bold choice, charlie! just tear, eat. mmmmm. and go! try all of my chicken creations! chicken! dipped in. abby: salty sweets. my personal favorite is the quinoa the toast with the jam and the butter and dip all these other things in there, too. abby: how important though is the chocolate? you have got to get the right kind of chocolate. have to get kubaker chocolate. get out the spoon. pete: not clear that beef jerry can i is good with chocolate. i like it. i love avocado. so, avocado with chocolate is actually really good. rick: i just did it and it s pretty good. i love avocado. i love afte avocado. rick: i m going to eat the beef jerry can i because i m allergic to chocolate. i love chocolate. who doesn t lo chocolate. pete: pizza and chocolate. you can dip anything in chocolate. rick: who is behind national milk chocolate day? i did not make this holiday up. tell us about bang cookies though. it started because i wanted a cookie with organic ingredients. i couldn t find it so, a big part of cookies is obviously the chocolate. and milk chocolate is a big integral part of the flavor profile in most of our cookies. rick: all organic and people buy it nationwide. yeah order at bang cookies.com. baked, fresh the same day and shipped out the same day. abby: these things look so good and thick and yummy. thank you so much. no problem. pete: ham and cheese sandwich not good dipped in chocolate. rick: not bad. abby: the left said 4% growth would never happen but it just did. our own geraldo rivera is live next to react. griff: the left is ramping up its war against straws in liberal cities and picking up the fight. is it really the best way to help the environment? we will discuss it. that s coming up next hour. grab some chocolate. it s all been done woo hooh it s all been done these american heros will lay to rest on american soil. the president it s a political risk to bring the men home and i couldn t be more proud. the minimum living wage, how will we pay for those. get people to pay their fair share. we reverse the tax bill. [ music ] we are here in new york. you should come out to join us. what a crowd we have today. it s a great way to get 9:00 a.m. started. micheal. i don t know him that well. you know what i know this morning, pigs do fly. if it s written on your folder it must be true. you know why pigs fly? economist said no way we reached 4% growth. one economist said pigs do not fly. president trump said the weather is nice and the economy is booming. because the white house said because of the trade policies that wouldn t work would sustain us. paul from the new york times said these policies were ignorant and this was a terrible thing. we know for the short-term this would be a good thing. we would find out in the last hour i was body on friday when the president came out. today we have the american people talk about why this is such a big deal. you are talking about job creation and the fact that businesses are restocking their shelfs. there is optimism in terms of consumer. there is a long term incentive with businesses investing in america and american workers. that s due to president trump s vision for a strong economy and the you can accessful economic policies. all right, let s begin. geraldo. we have seen the effects of deregulation and policies from this administration. companies are going out and buying more. the american people are buying more. first of all on the issue of why the president isn t given more credit for this wonderful booming economy we are exsuper experiencing know you have to remember how deeply louted he is. he could deliver gold to every family and they say it was too heavy. i m being facetious. it s a real problem in the country. it s a real problem that the president master mined a great economy. it was suppose to cycle downward but it s distaining the record economy. i would point out to the socialist within the democratic party you have had control of america s city for decades and run them into the ground and not severed the population that s significantly minority populations. i on the other hand using principals of free enterprise and unleashing the monster created a situation were wealth is trickling down into the city. record low minority unemployment. this is big stuff. if i were the president i would practice it everyday. absolutely, the reaction among many said this could never happen. help many ein the mindset that said 3% growth is not possible. 4% growth is not possible. they believed the decline was inevitable. make america great again is more then a slogan. what is it about the mindset about doing better? the most meaningful step aside from the tax cuts that gave some money back to everybody. the rich got more then the lower down the economic scale. what the president did was refused to listen to the common wisdom that american manufacturing was dead. he refused to listen to the american wisdom that natural gas and coal from the united states was a bounty we could use within the parameters to fuel our economy. who expected as these jobs come in who expected hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs to pour back in. a lot of them in the midwest. geraldo you mentioned cortez. i want you to listen. he went into cortez s bronx district to talk to supporters about how they expect she s going to pay for all of this socialism. take a listen. her platform includes free healthcare, college constitution, human rights. do you think the government should provide this for people. absolutely. 100%. everyone should have free education and healthcare. how will we pay for those? oh, god? us i guess. who should pay for all of the free things? all of the free things? well, some should come from taxes. the government is funded by taxes. all right, geraldo. the government is paying for it. what do you think? i m proud of this woman. she has done a magnificent job in rallying the kind of political residence of queens and the bronx. the turnout was abysmal. the turnout was almost nothing. she s someone i think will be a shining light in the democratic party going forward. we are very proud of her. her idea is obviously ideal of bernie sanders. she s a bernie sanders accolade. everybody gets free everything and it s cheers. the refreshing points of view and energy she brings. she replaced the guy who was there for 20 years. he was an all-time political hack. i don t mean that in a disrespectful way. he replaced the stuffy old man. let the democrats have the freedom caucus and the crazy right ring stuff. if the party goes towards socialism you know they will get beaten in 2020. let the young be compassionate. let them, you know, when they are young if you are not a liberal you have no heart. if you are old you have no brain. she will evolve. i think that it s nice to see the spirited intelligent ambitious young woman accomplishing so much against the old guys. you know, you always give us a smile. i asked you four questions in my head and you answered them all. we live-in a democracy and that s what it s about. thank you, geraldo. that s a great point. this stuffy old man is the number four democrat in the house. we started with a news alert. two officers were shot while responding to a disturbance call in massachusetts. police identified them as ronald moore and d. measur marinda. also overnight in las angeles. a female officer was shot in the leg. it s unclear what lead to the shooting. both of their conditions is unknown. a gunman killed two people at his home before going to a nearby nursing home and killing two others. they found two shot dead at a nursing home before the gunman killed himself outside of corpus christi, texas. a wild brawl broke out near president trump s new hollywood star. watch this. [yelling] l.a. police are looking for the two men throwing punches put trumps supporters. the star was replaced after being relentcy damaged. we are senting pete to the streets this morning. that s my exercise for the day. you know about the nfl. they still hasn t figured it out. jerry jones has. what s your name? grant. you are from new york? you are going to the yankees game today. what if aaron judge decided to take a knee? you don t do that. why can t the nfl figure that out? they will when it hits the pocketbook. they hit it last year but they still haven t corrected the policy. time will fix everything. i guess i ll say it one time, go yankees. what do you make of the nfl s policy. i m always going to stand for the national anthem. that s something they will have to figure out. thank you for your service. veterans get it but shouldn t all of us stand. yes, i quit watching nfl. i don t watch it because of that kneeling. i don t believe in it. everybody should stand. especially because of all of the sacrifice the men and women made. it will hit the pocketbook at some point if people don t stand-up. it s not that hard. guys i salute you. well-done, pete. i like pete in the street. we need an animation and graphic. that s the beginning of something great. it has a lot of you fired up. federal workers caught smoking pot may soon get to keep their jobs. two helicopters in iraq. john james is running for a michigan seat. he will join us live. don t miss it. 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oh, geez. this is about a myth that there is a floating land field in the middle of the ocean. it doesn t exist. there is plastic and trash on the ocean but it s on the coastline. it s not about our coastline. most of it comes from asian and africa. all of the countries, all of those continents account for five percent. this is a tiny portion of plastic in the ocean. now out of all of that there is no straws. we use 500 million straws. that came from a 9-year-old science project. a 9 year-olds science project. this has taken off. you have disney in a few years you won t have straws there. starbucks is moving a way from that. is it irrelevant if we try to make change here and you have the rest of the world that does nothing. all the while we don t get anymore straws. this is a bunch of moral preming. if you care about the planet you will stop driving cars. well, i like driving cars. stop eating meat. hamburger is delicious. stop using straws, okay, that s a sacrifice i can make. well it will make my life different when i want to drink my soft sever and i don t have a lid or straw. we can t chose in the country. it accidentally effects businesses. they spend $5,000 per year on straws. if they have to go to paper straws it will cost them $38,000 per year. that s an employee they can t hire or let go. i ve been using paper straws and it melts down in five seconds. what about bamboo. i m a surfer. when i hear stories like this, i think well, i m not a leftous. why isn t this information being caught on or so popular? we all want to be good stewards of the planet. we would like to do it the right way. let s focus on things in the environment. it s the third world. we have to help these other countries focus on their infrastructure. google the ten most polluted rivers in the world. it s not here in america. life is so good here. we are worrying about straws. thank you. i m going to buy a bunch of plastic straws like those lightbulbs. i have them all. you will have to pay me for them. if this segment didn t fire you up but this will. federal workers who were caught smoking pot may get to keep their jobs. jarred ijared is here abouty have it all wrong. - i love my grandma. - anncr: as you grow older, your brain naturally begins to change which may cause trouble with recall. - learning from him is great. when i can keep up! - anncr: thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory. - dad s got all the answers. - anncr: prevagen is now the number-one-selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide. - she outsmarts me every single time. - checkmate! you wanna play again? 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that s a good question. five committees have been investigating. i poured through their transcripts. i ve gone through all of them and many of them are in the book. in the end the final word is robert mueller. he created his own problem. he s the only one to blame. greg and i were around here doing this. a reporter doing the research you did is so valuable. thank you so much. always good to see you. all right, we have other headlines i want to bring you. there is a search for these kids and their great grandmother. the car fire in northern california. incredible video. flames ripped into tornadoes. this is only 5% contained. a top cbbs executive. six women said les made unwanted advances. there was also gender retaliation. this took place between the 1980s and late 2000s. he said he regrets mistakes he made in the past but never used his position to harm anyones career. eric church called himself a second amendment guy. he slammed the nra and fans are not happy. church was one of the headliners of the las vegas country festival were 58 people were murdered last year. he said there are some things we can t stop like the kid that takes his dads shotgun and walks into the high school but we could have stopped the guy in las vegas. i blame the lobbiest and member of the nra. have you experienced this on your birthday? i love birthdays. no, it s mine. you don t know your own wife s birthday? new research showed that 52% of men forget their partner s birthday. nine out of ten were in a serious relationship. i think it rings pretty true. i think that s pretty low. it might be higher. as you get older dates start to jumble in your head. oh, it s my brother s birthday. some people celebrate the day they gotten gauged or married. edward and barbara e-mailed us. our birthday was on the same day. my wife thought it was a good pick up line. she insisted to see my license. we have been married for nearly 40 years. highway many years does he take it like that. married 47 years and never for got my wife s birthday. as a matter of fact today is dottie s birthday. i love you. well-done, mark. rick has someone with this topic. i have dave and marie. has he ever forgotten your birthday? never. what did da day is her birthday. june 29. you are doing well. they defy the polls. let s talk weather. we have a lot going on including more rain. especially across. this has been set up farther to the southeast. we are in the carolinas. we have been seeing heavy rain throughout the week. we have rain showers that exited the outer bank. we have big storms across the central planes. more monsoonal activity. out to the far west the heat is ready. look at that, 110 degrees today. all right, guys. congratulations on remembering 32 years of marriage. he thought about it. the economy booming with growth. if you were watching other channels this is what you would have heard. one quarter of growth does not a transformed economy make. don t believe him. it s good to see but will it last? 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joining us know is nei neil cavuto. how much credit should he get? he should get a lot of credit. we criticize presidents when things are going bad under their watch but we should credit them when things go well. president trump obam obama president trump can t win that. i ll leave it at that. things will never last. i think it is in a different sense. when i look at it and some things in this report. i look at consumer spending. the can work well for future quarters. you chose this demand. they have to replenish that. it might no equal that. it s the annual average. this is dangerous to grow at 3% or better. this is the best performance since kindergarten. no, i really wasn t. i didn t plan to mention this at all. this is unique qualities here for this particular surge and what s behind it. we ll get into that. a farmer that s aware all of this could be short lined. we ll also look at this with austin with obama s top numbered guy and get his read on then verses now. i see an economy that s doing well. neil, you are on a roll today. i m trying to remember the dates. we are just accurate, neil. you are buying that? men are the ones that forget and women don t? absolutely. that was put up by women. thank you. all right, still ahead, it will be the coolest room in your house and save you money. we ll show you how to add a cutting-edge addition to your home. that s next. are you taking the tissue test? i m back. here we go. the addition 365. i have to tell you about this. first i ll show you how we build tradition. they are build with 2 by 4 wood construction. we have wood, mold, termite damage. this new system is the way you will see building happen in the future. four season came out with these thermal panels. they are filled with foam. up to six inches on the wall. the thermal allows you to retain the heat and keep it out in the summer. amazing new system. it s way cheaper. this is the power of heat. can i show this. the windows are the biggest opening in the house. this is regular glass. put your hand in front of that. most likely what you have in front of your home right now. so the glass from four season, they manufacture there own glass. feel it, it s cool. the sun is not coming in. we have everyones electric bill that will keep it cool in the summertime. this glass helps you do that. this is an addition of 365. listen, you can build this right on your house with any configuration. you can have more windows or less windows. they will come to your home if it were free and give you a free evaluation. check this out from the time they start construction you can build a room like this in one week. half the time, half the cost of conventional construction. it s super energy efficient. you save money on your bill? if you are not letting all of your heat out there the winter your energy will cost so much less. this type of construction, we need six inch foam walls keeps you cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. any size, any shape, any configuration. if you want to add on a bigger living room this is the way to go. i ll take three. head to get yourself one. 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