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demonstration of that fact. i expect your correspondent frank gardner said earlier on today that iran would far more like to fight in the shadows using its terror groups and proxies rather than going toe to toe with israel conventionally where it knows it could get a real hammering. clearly this morning the mood music appears to be to downplay the scale of this, but earlier in the week iran said they would react. what is your expectation for what we can look for from iran? your expectation for what we can look forfrom iran? the your expectation for what we can look for from iran?— look for from iran? the initial reaction is. — look for from iran? the initial reaction is, as _ look for from iran? the initial reaction is, as you _ look for from iran? the initial reaction is, as you say, - look for from iran? the initial reaction is, as you say, to - look for from iran? the initiall reaction is, as you say, to play look for from iran? the initial. reaction is, as you say, to play it down, because they don't want to make the fat that a couple of missiles have got through their very antiquated defence systems and hit targets. israel has the capacity with its stealth fighters and others to do an awful lot of damage here. i think iran feels that its pride is slightly restored by launching the
conventionally, israel vastly over matches iran. and this is a demonstration of that. i suspect your correspondent frank gardner, said earlier on today, iran is far more likely to fight in the shadows using its terror groups and proxies, rather than go toe to toe with israel conventionally, where it knows it would get a real hammering. what reaction do think we expect from iran's clearly the mood music appears to be downplaying the scale of this. but earlier in the week they had said they would react. what is your expectation for what we can look for from iran? is your expectation for what we can look forfrom iran? i is your expectation for what we can look for from iran?— look for from iran? i think the initial reaction _ look for from iran? i think the initial reaction is, _ look for from iran? i think the initial reaction is, as - look for from iran? i think the initial reaction is, as you - look for from iran? i think the initial reaction is, as you say, | look for from iran? i think the l initial reaction is, as you say, to play it down. they don't want to make the fact that a single or a couple of israeli missiles had got through their antiquated air defence systems and hit targets. israel has the capacity but its stealth fighters and others to do an awful lot of damage here. i think iran
israel felt it had to respond. lord cameron said, well, do as little as possible so as not to escalate. i think we have to be careful. this may only be the beginning and not the end of israel's response. but israel is not claiming officially it was at work. allows iran to operate in the grey, to have to take that sort of that warning that it sounded so many times that if israel hit hard, it would hit back immediately. now it's saying it was limited. we don't know who did it. so they are claiming victory. israel is claiming victory. and for the moment the tensions have eased, but the hostility is not gone away. and i suppose it helps both of them to operate, as you're suggesting, in the shadows slightly here. yes. and not make very direct statements. but while we wait to see whether we're at the start or the end of this, i suppose what happens is you remain in this period of quite extended tension, high tension.
and as you say, they appear to have hit a military base, whether it's the iranian revolutionary guard corps, who knows? i wouldn't be at all surprised. and fairly near to where we believe iran is trying to build nuclear weapons, so i expect a nod to them. i think this attack is very much a demonstration of capability and perhaps intent. iran fires 300—plus missiles and drones at israel. they virtually all get knocked down. israel fires one, perhaps two missiles in iran at a target, it appears to have got through and damaged. and i think people might be surprised to know that, conventionally, israel, militarily vastly overmatches iran. and this is a demonstration of that fact. and i expect... i think your correspondent frank gardner said earlier on today iran would be far more like to fight in the shadows, using its terror groups and proxies, rather than go toe to toe with israel conventionally, where it knows it would get a real hammering. and what reaction do you think
city of iran, a lot of military bases around it, and as you say they appear to have hit a military base, whether it is islamic revolutionary guard corps, who knows, i would not be at all surprised. and fairly near to where we believe iran is trying to where we believe iran is trying to build nuclear weapons. so i expect a not to that. i think this attack is very much a demonstration of capability and perhaps intent. iran fires 300 plus missiles and grounds at israel, they virtually all get knocked down, israel fires one, perhaps two missiles, and it appears to have got through and damaged. evil might be surprised to know that conventionally, israel, militarily, vastly over matches iran, and this is a demonstration of that, and i think your correspondent frank gardner said earlier on today, iran would far more like to fight in the shadows, using its terror groups and proxies, ratherthan the shadows, using its terror groups and proxies, rather than go toe to toe with israel conventionally,
muted strike, a limited strike. clearly, israel, as we talked about earlier in the week, joe, had a basket of options here. they could have gone big. there were certainly voices in israel calling for that. they could have simply left it as cyber, non-kinetic kind of operation. they chose, as you and i talked about a few days ago, kind of in the middle. i think what they sought to do, and they accomplished, was to show that they can penetrate iranian air defenses. we'll know a bit more here over the next 24, 48 hours as battle damage assessments come out. i, for one, believe that we're now in a 90% probability that this will settle down, go back into the shadows, follow a path of de-escalation. i think there's still a 10% chance it could flair up in a bigger way.
mccaul, who chairs the foreign affairs committee earlier this month, said that russian propaganda has quote, infected a good chunk of my party's base again, some of them very reticent to give ukraine any aid. do you agree with that russian propaganda has infected a good chunk of the gop base i, don't know if it's propaganda or if it's the fact that there are members of his party that want to see where that money is going they want to make sure that there's checks and balances for billions upon billions it's of dollars that we're sending over to ukraine. the threat is real and russia is a threat not only to ukraine, but to the united states of america and democracy. and i think that what we saw just a week ago today with regards to iran attacking israel we need to make sure that we show the strength of the united states of america. and this package tomorrow, these bills will do just that will support our allies will show that we are standing up for democracy and we're not going to be in the shadows of waiting thing to
it's very sad for british book full clubs —— football club. i think it's also inevitable. there is so much overlook on the players that we don't with so often. it has to stop. i feel really sorry, really sad for the clubs in england football. but for top players, this is a measure of what can make some space in the shadows. well, let's head to manchester united and join our reporterjane dougall. jane, that'sjust some of the reaction, but it is that back and forth today between two of the game's institutions that has really raised eyebrows. while some managers have said it's
next response from us will be immediate and at a maximum level and joining me now is former deputy assistant secretary of state and democratic strategist, joel rubin. joe, what do you make of what we saw? >> overnight? i mean, we were talking to nick paton walsh few moments ago i suppose there's some optimism and the diplomatic community that maybe this is, it each sayyed got their luxon, so to speak maybe this won't spiral out of control. >> what do you think? >> well, jim, cold comfort in a sense, like if you look at where we are in terms of the big picture, it's been over two decades now where this has been building a question about whether or not there will be a direct confrontation& the psychological barrier was cross last night israel hitting iran inside of iran basically, now, can changes the game in terms of how this shadow war is seen. it's no longer in the shadows. it's now out in the open. i do think that the strike itself
offensive operations and not going beyond that, despite the questions he was facing. >> let's talk about all of this joining us right now is seen and military analysts retired us air force colonel cedric leighton, it's good to see you. thank you so much for coming in. you say this strike confirms that word. a watershed moment in the middle east explains cedric yeah. >> what good morning. the basic difference here is from what we've seen before and in recent years is that for the first time, israel and iran are attacking each other they're sending nat proxy forces. they're sending themselves through their weapons directly into battle from their respective territories. now, that doesn't mean that this is going to escalate out of control or anything like that. but what is different is that these two countries are doing away with the pretense of working through proxies you're working in the shadows such as with cyber campaigns and things like that, those things in the shadows are still going to go on. but now things are a bit