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CNN This Morning

lot of these early right-wing figures, andrew breitbart, steve bannon were there all along, were very interested, were studying these digital media tools. and as the universe of people on social media grew, you saw -- you saw these conservatives really make the most of them. and channel a lot of the anger that you also see in conservative cable. just that raw, often racially divisive anger. and take that to really fuel, among other things, the trump campaign in 2016. and then trump's election is kind of the culmination of that whole moment. >> you talk about them basically sitting down, and the way you describe it, the white ikea team from the progressi internet team looking over the shoulder. you wrote, obama and trump. "the huffington post" and breitbart. it's hard to imagine they would have much in common, yet both movements were rooted in part in the new way of thinking about people that came when you saw them as traffic, measuring interest and and went channeling it into action. what have we learned from that,

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Morning Joe

but the biggest picture is that, you know, buzzfeed, like a lot of these companies, was totally yolked to the rise of facebook and grew really, really fast as social media grew. and as facebook, twitter, other sites have kind of shrunk and become less relevant, i think the companies that built themselves on their backs have really struggled. >> i want to get to your book, but i was fascinated by an item, and a lot of other people were, too, an item you wrote in semifore on the 24th of april. you asked, what year is it? consider the following, the drudge report is the biggest political website. peretti is focused on "huff post." matt and sullivan are sharing quick posts. washington's elite are reading

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CNN Newsroom With Pamela Brown

than a dozen states banned tiktok on most federal devices citing national security concerns over its chinese parent company and the possibility it could pressure tiktok to hand over personal data. there is no public evidence the chinese government has done that, but there is evidence of another risk -- social media's impact on mental health, particularly among gen z. >> depression started to rise after 2012. so did self-harm and suicide. >> reporter: dr. jean twangy says as smartphones and social media grew, so did the rate of depression among teens. nearly doubling between 2004 and 2019. by that year, 1 in 4 u.s. teen girls had experienced clinical depression according to twenge. >> there's pro-anorexia videos, videos that instruct people on how to cut themselves. what the algorithm is trying to

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

serks. >> reporter: eyeballs around the world glued to the content and viral videos. how long do you think you spend on tiktok every day? >> two to three hours. >> three to four hours. >> reporter: the u.s. government and a dozen states banned tiktok on most federal devices siting national security concerns over the chinese parent company and the possibility it could pressure tiktok to hand over data. there is no public evidence the chinese government has done that but there is evidence of another risk social media's impact on mental health particularly among genz. >> depression started to rise after 2012 and suicide. >> reporter: as smart phones and social media grew, so did the rate of depression among teens nearly doubling between 2004 and

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