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Saying give me an announcement for def con that sounds professional. I have to convince my boss to send me to def colony wanted to make us sound more corporate one of my friends said, you should just throw a real conference, charge real money, and make it a professional conference. I thought that was brilliant but i didnt have the money at the time. Too young. I saved my money for a year, took a loan out and then started black hat a year later and then every year, unbelievably, its grown for 20 years. Host whats the difference between black hat and def con . Guest black hat is the thats how i ...

I have been running that for a couple of years. When there a time were no jobs in Information Security for any of us. The only people doing security were maybe people in the military and banks. So this is really a hobby. As the internet grew and there are puttingd people things online and there is money at risk, all of a sudden hackers , started getting jobs doing security. I kept getting emails of people telling me give me an , announcement to def con to make it sound professional. I have to convince my boss to send me to def con for my job. I was rewriting our announcements to make them soun...

Now joining us on the communicators, jeff moss. How and why did black hat begin . Jeff it began more than 20 years ago. I operate a convention, def con, the Worlds Largest hacking convention. This was a time when there were no jobs for any of us. The only people doing security were maybe people in the military and banks. As the internet grew and there were jobs, and there is money at risk, all of a sudden hackers started getting jobs doing security. I kept getting emails, give me an announcement to def con to make it sound professional. I was rewriting our announcements to make them sound corp...

Now joining us on the communicators, jeff moss. How and why did black hat begin . Jeff it began more than 20 years ago. I operate a convention, def con, the Worlds Largest hacking convention. This was a time when there were no jobs for any of us. The only people doing security were maybe people in the military and banks. As the internet grew and there were jobs, and there is money at risk, all of a sudden hackers started getting jobs doing security. I kept getting emails, give me an announcement to def con to make it sound professional. I was rewriting our announcements to make them sound corp...

People of turkey made me president by 52 of the votes. Mr. Irdyk thank you. We need to go to the audience for a couple of questions, if you are ok with that. I would ask you to wait for the microphone, to identify yourself, and please to ask a question, not to make a statement. Tohave an opportunity here ask questions of the president , but we are not interested in having a political statement in the process. I also want to make clear that this is not a press conference. This is a discussion, with policy people in washington. So i hope the media will understand, but call on all of to turned it...