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giant. plus, weeks after the supreme court's ruling on abortion, is it still a top story in key states? we will speak with top editors in texas and georgia about that anymore and later, what is the fine line between informing and overwhelming you? we will talk about that with melissa, coming up, but first, how to decipher debates about disinformation. one of the dominant stories of our time, is a dramatic drift toward a choose your own reality , people are swimming or perhaps drowning in a sea of information, some of it straight up disinformation. meaning something that is made up, o...

To that humanity in the politics and political discourse, i think the better our democracy will be. >> humanity, that is the word. thank you for coming on the program. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. sonic let's continue this conversation with our panel, national correspondent with the washington post and lauren, a business reporter with the new york times. the big overarching question here, i don't know if any of us can answer it, are there any actual solutions to the disinformation dilemma that she lays out that we can't even talk about the problem in the same way? >> honestly, i f...