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here. and the white house ought to explain why that wasn t followed here, but there is a good way to answer these questions and we will do our best to answer these questions but we will not lose sight of the russia investigation and we are going to keep focus on that. yes? has there been any uptick in attacks on your or your staffers computers or i.t. networks since this investigation has been going on? i m not aware of anything like that. thank withdrew veyou very much. thank you. okay. steve kornacki in new york. that is adam schiff. just finishing up u a press conference there on capitol hill. adam schiff the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, of course, the house intelligence committee had been pursuing interference of the status of that committee s investigation now some quwhat i question. there s been all sorts of controversy about actions, about statements from the republican chairman, devin nunes, in that
statement you just heard there, that press conference, rather, that you just saw there, from adam schiff coming on the heels of an explosive report a few hours ago from the new york times, a report that has all of washington talking right now. the white house saying nothing. what is the times reporting? the times naming two trump administration officials that it says played a role in providing information to devin nunes, chairman of the house intelligence committee. that information leading nunes to announce that president trump may have been surveilled by the obama administration before he took office. now, those officials, again, according to the reporting of the new york times here, this is not reporting from nbc news, but according to the new york times, as the senior director for the intelligence at the national security council, he was appointed he was brought in, rather, by ousted national security adviser michael flynn. also named by the times, michael ellis, a lawyer who
works on national security issues at the white house counsel s office. now, he previously worked for devin nunes. remember, key to point out here, the announcement from nunes set off a firestorm of controversy around him and around his committee s investigation into russian interference. nunes had briefed the president before sharing that material with his democratic colleagues on the intelligence committee. of course, those colleagues supposed to be working hand in hand with him here. that led to accusations that nunes was working with the white house and lending some to lend some credibility to trump s claims that he was wiretapped. this new report from the new york times, if true, could certainly inflame those accusations. we should say this reporting from the times based on sources described only as several current american officials. as i mentioned before, nbc has not independently confirmed the report. the report also says that these officials, played a role in providing the information.
that they assisted in the disclosure of the intelligence reports. it is not clear what precisely that entails or how precisely they would have been involved. in a statement, a spokesman for chairman nunes telling nbc news, as he has stated many times, chairman nunes will not confirm or deny speculation about his sources identity. he will not respond to speculation from anonymous sources. a lot going on here. a lot of confusion. kasie hunt is on capitol hill. she was at that press conference that adam schiff just held. she asked him some questions. so, kasie, we have that report from the new york times, what exactly are we hearing from adam schiff, from the top democrat in the intelligence committee right now? reporter: confusion, i think, is still the word for what is going on with this investigation, steve. even the ranking member here was asked if he had information he had promised earlier. he said, you know what, this day completely got away from me and like many days on this investigation, i think we all feel that way a little bit. so, if you just want to reset here for a minute, clearly this
schiff said today. he said that he just received this letter basically as spicer was talking about it in the briefing. here s what schiff had to say. on the same day that the new york times broke a story saying that the source of the materials that were provided to our chairman was, in fact, national security council staff, i was informed in a letter from white house counsel that white house excuse me, national security council staff found these materials in the ordinary course of business. now, that timing concerns me. if, in fact, the national security council staff that discovered these materials reportedly in the ordinary course of business or the same national security staff that provided them to the chairman to be provided to the president, it raises a profound question why they were not directly provided to the white house by the national security staff and instead were provided through a
route involving the chairman. reporter: so, again, another twist in this saga that raises questions about the credibility of this house intelligence committee investigation. now, adam schiff says he wants to maintain the credibility of the investigation, but, again, that he has concerns about it. he also said he is available any time as soon as possible to go down to the white house and view whatever these materials turn out to be. steve? all right, kasie hunt on capitol hill. a very unexpectedly busy day. kasie hunt, thank you for that. reporter: story of my life. let s go to the white house now for that side of the story. kelly o donnell standing by there. kelly, this report from the new york times hit just before sean spicer and his regular daily briefing were set to begin in the white house there. what is the white house saying in response to what the new york times is reporting? reporter: very little. sean spicer would not confirm anything in that report, would not engage on it, not taking questions that relate to it, but as kasie just outlined and
certainly congressman adam schiff also made this nexus between the timing of the new york times report and this letter inviting the intelligence top officials from the house and senate committees to view this material. so, clearly sean spicer, the spokesman for the president, knew this was coming. he was prepared for this. and did not want to take questions that would help us to understand if there is anything to the recording in terms of the white house being willing to confirm or refute elements of that story. one of the big questions comes down to not only white house staffers, what may they have done or not done, but the president, himself, after he sort of set up first the tweeted claim of being wiretapped, which has been roundly discounted by officials with the ability to know if there had been any so-called wiretap, when he brought broadened that to more surveillance. in a televised interview, the president said more information would be coming and it would be good stuff. today our colleague, kristen
welker, put this question to the white house press secretary any potential that the president had a hand or any knowledge of what has transpired. did the president direct anyone in this white house or in his national security team to try to find information or intelligence to back up his assertion about wiretapping? i don t i m not aware of anything directly. i d have to look into that in terms of again, there s two sides of this. one is the information side, and two is the policy and the activities and the legal piece of what happened. and i don t there s those are big buckets, if you will. so it s possible? i m not going to comment on it. reporter: so, one thing the sean spicer was not prepared was to bring in the degree to which the president may or may not have been involved on this question of this incidental surveillance and this intelligence product or intelligence data that may be
now available for review for the intelligence top officials from capitol hill. it will be important to revisit that question later on to see if the president might have had any direct knowledge of this. certainly he raised the issue, himself, by talking about surveillance, and by suggesting there would be more information brought to the public. he said that on television. and so that question that our colleague, kristen, asked, seemed to have real merit in the moment, and so far, the white house is not able to go into any detail to give us an answer on that. steve? all right. kelly o donnell at the white house. kelly, thank you for that. let s bring in now david french, he s a writer at the national review. and david, i know you have you re a conservative voice, though, who has been saying republicans and conserve ti ati need to be taking this issue of russian interference in the election very seriously. i m just wondering what you make of the events today. we have this report in the new york times saying, hey, there were people at the white house, two people in the administration, who played some
role, according to the times, in getting this information to nunes. we know nunes took the information to the president, we know democrats on the committee said he should have shared it with us. we have the white house offering this letter now saying, hey, there s some information gleaned in the ordinary course of work by the national security council, we want you to come view it. what do you make of all the pieces that are suddenly floating around out there? here s the problem. the origin of this confusion lies with the trump tweets. where trump has said, he was wiretapped, it s as bad as watergaets, it s a huge scandal, then began to seek external validation for this tweet. for this argument. he didn t come forward with evidence. and so here s the fundamental problem. there s two fundamental problems with what nunes did. fundamental problem number one, it s looking increasingly like the white house fed him information that he turned around and fed back to the white house in a manner that led everyone to believe independently discovered it and
it was information that didn t confirm trump s tweet but he was able to use to say he felt validated. that s a problem. that s not his role as chairman of the committee. here s the second problem. he s not sharing that information with his own committee. instead, he s talking in these vague terms like he doesn t disclose source and methods, sources and methods like he s a member of a spy agency, himself. like he had some sort of clandestine meeting that nobody needs to know about. but, again, let s remember, he s the chairman of the house intelligence committee. he is not an employee, he is not a lawyer for the president. it s not his job to make the president s tweets look better. and so when you take all of these reports together, it creates an impression of a chairman of a house committee essentially working to backfill the president of the united states tweeting and that is not his role and it s created an enormous amount of confusion and has caused further loss of confidence in the work of the committee. and we know by all appearances, the work of that house committee right now seems
stalled. there was talk there from adam schiff, the ranking democrat, that proposed witness lists are being passed back and forthright now. there have been some proceedings for this week that were put off. going forward, based on everything you just said right there, can you see a scenario where nunes recovers his credibility with the democrats on the committee? recovers enough sort of standing to proceed with this investigation and have the results, whatever they may be, accepted by both sides? well, i mean, you know, there s a lot of second acts in american politics. and i can t imagine a course correction, one where he says here is the information that i viewed. i m going to make it available to my committee, which is all clear to view secret information, top-secret information. so he does what he s supposed to do. he apologizes for going outside the normal course of business. and then he rolls forward. i haven t seen any indication that that s happening, instead, you know, the news is changing every five minutes, but my last understanding is he s still not even sharing with his own committee what he found, what he
saw, and how can you be a committee chair of an intelligence committee when you re not sharing with your own committee the intelligence that you re viewing? and that s a core problem and i do think that there is a way for him to move through this and move out of this. i just don t see that that s happening. all right. david french with the national review. thank you for joining us. appreciate the time. thanks so much for having me. okay. again, a very busy day here. we ve been pulled in all sorts of directions trying to cover politics today. we re going to cover all the bases throughout this hour. please stay patient and bear with us as we take a very quick break here. on the other side, president trump also today, this would normally be the major headline in politics, but so many other things happened today. president trump all but declaring war on members of his own party who he says are standing in the way of his plan to repeal and replace obamacare and maybe much more. how far is the president willing to go to try to get these republican s on? we re going to take you through all of that in just a moment.
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obamacare. with republican legislation. trump now issuing a threat on twitter this morning. take a look at this. the president tweeting out, the freedom caucus will hurt the entire republican agenda if they don t get on the team. and fast. we must fight them and dems in to 2018. the house freedom caucus, very conservative wing on the republican side, now as much in the eyes of trump the enemy as the democrats at least if they don t get behind his agenda. sean spicer, white house spokesman, suggesting that house members may still fall in line. there s a few members of the freedom caucus prior to last friday s vote and since then who is expressed a willingness to want to work with him, rather than necessarily as a bloc. and i think that there continues to be some promising signs in that with with that. so, again, i think part of it is i think people are more concerned with voting as a bloc,
then, in what s the best interest to their constituents and american people, he s hoping people will see the bigger picture, the goals that we outlined and sometimes not let the really good be the enemy of the perfect. we talked about this earlier this week with the freedom caucus being resistant on health care, potentially doing the same thing on future big fights, it leaves trump with two possible courses of action. one, can he freeze out the freedom caucus? can he write them off if? if he does that, he would have to compromise with democrats. option two, he would try to essentially break the freedom caucus to make them fall in line with him and to pass legislation with only republican votes based on that tweet now, it appears the president is going with the latter option. the question, if he does go down that road, can he actually strong arm dissenting members of his own party into getting onboard with him in the future? want to bring in michael steele, msnbc political analyst, former chair of the republican national committee, and howard dean, msnbc contributor, former governor of vermont, also former chair of the dnc.
the two former chairs here. michael steele, i will start with you. the freedom caucus has been bedevilling republican leaders in washington for years, doing this before donald trump was president. what donald trump is suggesting in that tweet today, could he have any success in strong arming them? i, you know, it s kind of hard to say. i don t think that that s the best tactic to take with these guys. these folks have a principled orientation. they have a very strong view on government spending and government programs and the role of government. that s how they got elected. i know firsthand because i helped get them elected in 2010. so i understand very much where they re coming from and this idea that they re just going to roll over is just it s d disingenuous to believe that. it s not something that s going to happen. instead of fighting with them, figure out how you create the sweet spot. one thing the ryan team could have done was instead of going down the road with the legislation they did, was just reintroduce the bill that all republicans signed off in the
house and signed off in the senate and presented it to president obama, they presented that bill to this white house, it would have moved forward and then you d be in a different operating space at this point. instead of creating a relationship built around tension, you would have had one built around cooperation right from the start. if you wanted to pursue health care first. the threats have a limited purpose here, i think, and in the long run, does not serve the administration, nor the party any good. now, the house speaker, paul ryan, he s somebody, he s had his own frustrations trying to deal with the house freedom caucus. he said today he understands where the president is coming from, essentially said he thinks the president was venting with what he said. but of course, if the president does not find a way, if republican leaders like ryan do not find a way to get all republicans on the same page, the only way to pass legislation would be working with democrats, but on that possibility of reaching out to the other side, here s what paul ryan had to say this morning. wouldhat i worry about, noraf
we don t do this, he ll go work with democrats to try and change obamacare, and that s not going that s hardly a conservative thing. by the way, paul ryan sniffing at the idea of working with democrats prompted this unusual reply, bob corker, republican senator from tennessee, he went on twitter, he said, we ve come a long way in our country when the speaker of one party urges a president not to work with the other party to solve a problem. howard dean, i read what paul ryan was saying there in the interview, though, essentially as a threat to the house freedom caucus. hey, if you i guys don t get onboard, we re going to have democrats writing our own legislation. is that how you interpret it ? yeah, this is really complicated. i don t agree with michael. i don t think they can pass the same bill because they can t do it in reconciliation, they re never going to pass that through the senate. this bill is toxic. i mean, this bill is not just the in some ways the freedom caucus saved the republican party in 2018.
if you had done this, you would have put out a put a whole lot of people who voted for donald trump and voted republican the last election out of their health insurance. you would have had people dying of cancer because of what the republicans did. so it s just as well for the republicans that this thing didn t pass. i have no idea i ve never seen anything like this, of course, we ve said that about a lot of things drup druonald tru done. i have no idea what they re going to try to do. i think it would be fine if they work with the democrats but would get a position that s much more mainstream as far as the american people were concerned. the american people do not support what paul ryan wants. michael steele, another question, a bigger picture question about the house freedom caucus, it seems to me watching them over the last few years part of their appeal to their base, part of the appeal to the voters who sent them there, is this idea that they are standing up not just to democrats but to their own party, and does that create its own obstacle, the idea there s an incentive there for them to oppose anything the president, anything republican leadership tries to do just to show that they are standing up?
no. not really. i mean, they don t oppose this for the sake of opposing. they oppose on principle. they oppose on the fundamental value system that republicans have articulated for over a generation. certainly going back to ronald reagan s time. and a lot of these folks feel that we moved away from that. big government republicanism has no place with these people. and so this idea that you re going to spend your way into prosperity on the backs of future generations is an athema to them. they push back because they were asked to be in the room to make sure that government is responsive to the needs of people and to howard s point about the health care bill, i think that s a valid point. about that particular bill. which is why over the last seven years of the wasted opportunity to actually craft a bill that s not only anchored in these principles but actually would be received well by the american
people, if your true intention was to replace obamacare. another piece of news we are just getting right now, and howard dean, i want to get you to respond to this, joe manchin, senator, democratic senator from west virginia, just announcing in last few minutes he plans to vote yes on the confirmation of neil gorsuch to the supreme court. the backdrop, you have this, chucklead ers hinting at the pocket of mounting a filibuster against the nomination, trying to force republicans to come up with 6 f f 0 votes. he s one of the more announcement by the democrat, joe manclihin, what does this d to the question of a filibuster on the democratic side? nothing. that s baked in. i expect two or three or four democrats to vote for judge gorsuch. what their constituency wants. i can tell you right now, if gorsuch is confirmed by democrats, that is unless we force mcconnell to exercise the nuclear option, if he s
confirmed straight up with 60 votes, 10 of which are democratic, the democratic senatorial committee might as well hang it up because they ll never raise any money from our base. all right. howard dean, former governor of vermont, former dnc chair. michael steele, former rnc chair. thank you to both for joining us. appreciate that. we re going to take a quick break here. on the other side, amid all that turmoil among the house intelligence committee and its chairman devin nunes, the senate intelligence committee held its first public hearing on russia today. americans should be concerned because right now, foreign country, whether they realize it or not, is pitting them against their neighbor, other political parties, ramping up divisions based on things that aren t true. more on that hearing next. plus, response from russian president vladimir putin today when asked about his country s interference in the election. ady when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job,
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time now u for a check of the headlines at the half hour. a very busy hour in washington. the senate just in the last few minutes voting 51-50 to overturn an obama-era rule that prevents states from defunding planned parenthood clinics because they provide abortion services. 51-50 because it was a 50-50 tie then vice president mike pence acting as the president of the senate cast the tie breaking vote. also in washington, the senate intelligence committee holding its first hearing today on allegations of russian interference in last year s presidential election. one witness telling committee members that russia targeted all of the republican presidential candidates. we re going to have much more on that hearing, what was said in just a minute. also, the justice department says it will continue to fight for president trump s temporary ban on travel to the u.s. by people from six predominantly muslim countries. this coming after a federal judge out in hawaii granted the state s request to extend an order blocking the government
from implementing that travel ban. and the white house says president trump and the chinese president will hold its first meeting at trump s mar-a-lago report april 6th and april 7th, expected to discuss trade, north korea and tensions in the north china sea. federal investigatorors searching for the cause of yesterday s deadly bus crash in central texas, 13 members of a church were killed when the small bus they r traveling on collided head of hn win with a truck when heading home for a church retreat. lawmakers in north carolina voting again in the last hour to repeal the controversial and costly bathroom bill. excuse me, voted earlier today and governor roy cooper announcing just moments ago that h he has now signed that legislation. this is legislation that repeals the original law. it leaves lawmakers in charge of bathroom policies for public buildings and temporarily bars local governments from approving
nondiscrimination ordinances. governor making a public statement just moments ago. this was more than about sports and jobs. it was about discrimination and it was about north carolina s reputation and it was about wanting us to work toward ending discrimination and i could not tolerate having house bill 2 be the law of the land in north carolina. governor mentioning sports and jobs there because of the boycotts that were that came as a result of this law being passed and signed last year. the ncaa said that it would not hold any of its college championship events in the state of north carolina until and unless the law was removed from the books. the nba also pulled this year s all-star game from charlotte, companies had pulled back on plans to invest in the state as well.
mariana is standing by in the state capitol in raleigh. so, mariana, obviously the backdrop to all of this, big sort of money at stake here in terms of boycotts from the state. is this legislation going to satisfy, do we know, those boycotts? reporter: we don t know, steve, and actually the ncaa had a previously scheduled press conference, that s happening at 6:30 p.m. eastern today, so we ll be looking out for reaction from them to this replacement bill. but as you mentioned, this replacement bill 142 is kind of like a compromise bill. neither side seems particularly happy with the outcome. on the one hand, you have lgbt activists who still feel that this replacement bill leaves room for discrimination because of the issues that you mentioned. and then on the other, you have conservatives here who didn t want to repeal hb-2 in the first place. but, again, as you said, the state s economic interests took
precedent. that s the feeling that we got here today. the state had already lost so much. you mentioned the nba championship, paypal also pulled out of north carolina. they were supposed to build a big facility here that would create hundreds of jobs. you had arists like bruce spr g springsteen canceling their concerts. when that happens, it s the working class person in north carolina, the person who was going to work in the hotel or sell pretzels at the concert that gets affected. we got a feeling today that that was really in some lawmakers minds today when they voted to repeal hb-2 and put in this replacement bill. no doubt, however, that the big winner here today was democratic governor roy cooper. he, of course, campaigned against hb-2, won the governorship, you know, razor thin margin and then today he, you know, was basically one of the architects that credits himself with repealing hb-2 and
putting this replacement bill in place. he tweeted about the repeal, he said, today we repealed hb-2. it wasn t a perfect deal, or my preferred solution, but an important first step for our state. so in that tweet, he s even admitting that this was a compromise bill. that hb-2 might be gone, but the issue still remains here in north carolina. steve? all right. mariana in raleigh, north carolina. thank you for that. let s go back now to the nation s capitol, capitol hill, leaders of the senate intelligence committee today renewing their promise to conduct an independent and nonpartisan or bipartisan investigation into alleged russian interference in the presidential election, and potential ties between the trump campaign and russia. this comes amid all of those questions about whether the separate investigation being run by the house intelligence committee can remain on course in light of a visit that republican chairman devin nunes
made to the white house. now today s senate hearing focusing on alleged russian interference, here s what some of the committee members and some of the witnesses had to say. the takeaway from today s hearing, we re all targets of a sophisticated and capable adversary. this is not fake news. this is actually what happened to us. deception and active measures have long been and will remain a staple of russian dealings. has russia conducted other similar campaigns in other countries? yes, the commander in chief has used russian active measures at times against his opponent. he claims that the election could be rigged. that was the number one theme pushed by r.t. s news, outlets all the way up to the election. was this an act of war? it s definitely a part of the cold war system that we knew 20, 30 years ago. and joining me now, michael crowley, senior foreign affairs correspondent for politico. the timing on this is interesting because you have the
controversy around the house investigation for the moment. that seems stalled in terms of actually calling witnesses and sort of the traditional investigative measures they d be taking. now the senate sort of getting in on this. what is the key difference you see between how that senate committee is functioning and how the house committee is sort of maybe not functioning right now? well, i mean, ts looks like partisanship and professionalism, competence. those are the two key things and i think they go somewhat hand in hand. on the house side, you really have kind of a partisan fight and it does look like, you know, devin nunes has handled this a little less than like a pro. he s already had to apologize to his colleagues once for the way he s gone about this, and the two sides on that committee, particularly nunes and his couldn counterpart, adam schiff, are dug into separate bunkers. it has a partisan veneer.
nunes has not conducted it competently, professionally. the story line further clouded today with the revelation it appears two national security staffers at the white house may have helped provide him with documents that he talked about before, talking to his colleagues on the committee about surveillance of trump officials being picked up in secret surveillance of foreign diplomats and on the senate side, briefly, what you seem to have is comedy, professionalism, a smooth process. the chairman and the ranking member are getting along. it s kind of like the adults finally showing up. it was interesting watching some of that testimony before the senate committee, though, today, it did strike me that in piecing this together in trying to draw, ultimately trying to draw conclusions about the level of russian interference, the effect of russian interference in the election, that sort of thing, it might be a less precise question than maybe we assume, and what i mean in particular, one of the witnesses there was talks about an instance where donald trump on the campaign trail had cited a fake news article you could
trace back to russia, but then in the same sort of line of thought, he got all the way to birtherism and claims of a rigged election saying these are things russians would like people in the united states to be talks abouing about. it seems that may be true. seems there could be a million other reasons trump got into birtherism in the first place or got into sort of claims about rigged elections to make the case that this was from russia, that this is the direct connection to russia. it seems like there may be some gray area in this, a lot of gray area. yeah, steve, i follow these english language russian news outlets pretty closely. you have a chicken and egg issue. trump will start talking about something and these outlets will pick up on it and run with it so it s not clear to me, you know, where it came from. so that is a pretty heavy inference at this point and i think the idea that, you know, trump was intentionally parroting russian propaganda
loins, that would be at the far end of the range of possibility of what happened in this election. it s a pretty dramatic interpretation of the possibilities. i think that right now, you know, the focus of the investigation seems to be at a lower level, trump associates, did they have meetings in european countries with people who had ties to the kremlin? you know, was julian assange, was there some intermediary between wikileaks and roger stone? how did that work? so to go to the idea that trump, himself, was sort of relying on russian propaganda is a pretty big leap. again, as you say, this committee, this hearing today was trying to set the context, lay the groundwork. i think a useful way, steve, because the coverage has really gotten bogged down in the blow-by-blow process questions that are important, but reminding people of the first principles here, the major core issues at stake which is the potential interference in the election. and i want to make sure to get this in as well, vladimir putin, he was asked about this idea of russian interference. this is what vladimir putin is saying.
you and the russian government did never try to influence the outcome of the u.s. presidential election and there will be no evidence found? translator: ronald reagan once debating about taxes and addressing the americans said, watch my lips, he said, no, watch my lips, no. wow. reagan s vice president george h.w. bush who said that. putin i m curious behind the scenes, do we have a sense, if vladimir putin was trying to influence the election in this country, if trump was his preferred candidate, if he had high hopes for what a trump presidency would mean for the american/russian relationship, just given how this has become the all-consuming controversy in american politics right now, does he feel he s going to get the benefits of the trump presidency that he was looking for? yeah, you know, an interesting point that i ve heard made, you know, if this was the sort of most dastardly effective russian operation of all-time, it actually was too
effective, too blunt, too blatant because there s a backlash now. it s going to be really difficult for donald trump to do some kind of deal with vladimir putin that putin might have been hoping for. you know, if trump had kind of come in not talking so much about russia, these ties had not been exposed, he could have flown under the radar and cut some deals and would have been people who were upset but wouldn t have had the public outcry you re going to have now. the prospects for a new relationship with russia are really back burnered. by the way, i want to point out, that famous quote, read my lips, no new taxes which was uttered by george h.w. bush, of course the most famous thing about that, he broke that promise. it was not a very binding promise and not a wise one to cite, steve. but, look, i think that vladimir putin probably is frustrated right now. he probably felt that donald trump was somebody who could give him some things he wanted like lifting sanctions over ukraine and some things to do with nato on its eastern flank near russia s border and now i just don t think it s very likely that much of that is
going to materialize. in fact, you can see a scenario where trump and putin have to kind of puff out their chests at one another. you could get in a dangerous cycle of escalation. i talked to some experts, it s actually possible the relationship could get worse from here. michael crowley of politico. thanks for the time. thank you, steve. okay. president trump, now paul ryan, both suggesting they may be willing to revisit health care after that colossal failure last week. there is a lot of uncertainty, obviously, about what a final bill might look like if they choose to revive it. up next, we re going to show you what a possible obamacare replacement could mean for millions of americans. per roll
from engineering and manufacturing. to stealth bombers. to next-generation fighters. to landing an unmanned vehicle on a carrier for the first time in history. just wait till you see what s next. that s the value of performance. northrop grumman all right. legislatively, it was an absolute debacle last week. republicans withdrawing their plan to repeal and replace obamacare. now, though, president trump suggesting he may revive the
issue. house speaker paul ryan suggesting republicans may still come up with a plachb n of thein and replace the existing law. which options would republicans have, which options might democrats have if there were a chance to work with republicans? what are the options for health care reform from this point forward? jolene kent takes a look. hey, steve. here in washington at the health care drama continues as politicians are grappling with what would come next, what s on the cable? at the same time, americans all across the country of every political persuasion are waiting to find out what s going to happen with them when they visit the doctor next. president trump threatening the future of health care. just minutes after the gop bill was pulled last week. i ve been saying for the last year and a half that the best thing we can do politically speaking is let obamacare explode. it is exploding right now. reporter: now this week, an aboutface. i know we re all going to make a deal on health care.
that s such an easy one. reporter: all of this back and forth in washington has left consumers and the health insurance industry desperate for answers. the exchanges are stable icing, according to the nonpartisan cbo. but could health care for an estimated 11 million americans americans other rely on these exchanges actually explode? it depends on what the government does next. president trump recently said that he expects obamacare to explode. he thinks over the next year or two, out of pockets premiums and deductibles will get so high that increasingly, exchanges will be thrown into a death spiral. do i think that is at all feasible and likely to happen? no. i think the exchanges will stabilize. option two. president trump undercuts the law by halting subsidies or stopping enforcement of the mandate to buy insurance the secretary in hhs has a lot of discretion. they can decide how much they ll spoken advertising. they can decide whether or not they ll challenge the cost sharing subsidies, if they
persian gulf them. which they have the ability to do. it will have a very bad effect on the exchanges and that s within their power. if that happens, many who depend on the subsidies may no longer be able to afford health insurance whatsoever. and another scenario. uncertainty and pullout regardless of what the government does. we went inside this meeting of insurance underwriters scrambling as some are facing a summer deadline. we need on stabilize the marketplace now. because we have so many insurance carriers that are either leaving the states that they participated in, or they have raised their premiums to such levels that it has become very difficult to find decent coverage at a decent price. if insurers keep losing confidence in the system, more companies could exit the market with one or perhaps zero
options. that s already the case for greg in tennessee where insurance coils are dropping out sflfl we just want the opportunity to buy health insurance that s affordable to us. that s all we re asking. it is not a liberal or conservative issue. the bottom line, insurance companies are scratching their heads about what s next leaving millions of patients wondering if they ll have health care at all. there s a new reuters poll that shows 80% of republican dozen want their party to try repealing and replacing once again but president trump has yet to outline any specifics on how to succeed or how exactly the second attempt will differ from the first. all right. let s get a check on what happened on wall street. we gains over wall street. the dow gaining 69 points. a record close for nasdaq climbing 16 points. today we had banks, financial shares leading the rally coming
back from the worst week we ve seen so far this week. and it is all corporate profits. they should be jump bush administration quarter in this season. that s the latest from cnbc, first in business worldwide. so how old do you want to be when you retire? uhh, i was thinking around 70. alright, and before that? you mean after that? no, i m talking before that. do you have things you want to do before you retire? oh yeah sure. ok, like what? but i thought we were supposed to be talking about investing for retirement? we re absolutely doing that. but there s no law you can t make the most of today. what do you want to do? i d really like to run with the bulls. wow. yea. hope you re fast. i am. get a portfolio that works for you now and as your needs change. investment management services from td ameritrade.
to landing an unmanned vehicle on a carrier for the first time in history. just wait till you see what s next. that s the value of performance. northrop grumman people don t take with to being bullied. do you think, is this an actual negotiating tactic by the president? is this a constructive way to do it? it s constructive in fifth grade. it may allow a child to get his way.
but that s not how our government works of. just in, amash there, a republican member of congress calling the republican president childish and why is it? because of this tweet that donald trump sent out saying the freedom caucus will hurt the entire republican agenda if they don t get on the team and fast. we must fight them, and dems, in 2018. the president suggesting he wants to fight members of his own party who are in the freedom caucus. amash is in the freedom caucus. and the president is saying if they don t get on board, i m ready to go after them politically. that takes us to today s most important number of the day. there are 27 republican who s are members of the house freedom caucus who we know are members of the house freedom caucus. has the group that doesn t actually release a list of its members names. but there are 27 who we know are members and who are not at the
time the health care vote was coming due last week. and who were not publicly yes votes. some of them were no. some of them were still undecided. some said they were leaning no. the point is when it all came to a head, these 27 members of the house freedom caucus were not yet on board. so these the people presumably donald trump is really talking about when he says they have to get on board or maybe we ll come after them. so if donald trump were to come after some or all of these freedom caucus members in the elections next year, in 2018, what would that mean? something to keep in mind, most come from very safe republican districts. districts where in the general election, they win by blowouts. here s a comparison. in their districts, in these 27 districts last november, when donald trump was running against hillary clinton. how did he do? he won by an average of 25 points. not a shock. generally very republican districts. how does that 25-the point
average margin for trump compare to how the 27 republican members of congress did? he won by 25 on average in their district. what were they winning by? on average, they are winning their own districts by 31 points. so they did a little bit better than donald trump in their districts. keep in mind, what does that mean? it was a general election. maybe they just attracted more democratic votes than donald trump definitely we don t really know. the key is, when they re both winning by that much, the real threat would be the republican primary. if there was a republican primary, some of these guys would be running. how many votes in the primary could he sway? we don t really know for sure. donald trump won most of these districts in the republican primary. not all of them. in some cases, by big margins, some by small margins. the primary is where the primary would be if there is a threat. our most important number, 27.

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everybody. what more can you tell us about this? you were given this information or permission by the senator or by his family in order to broadcast this? yes, they with his permission, i spoke to the doctors they ask that i talk to the doctors get the information about what happened. we know that on friday morning he went to the doctor s basically for a scheduled annual physical exam. he was complaining a bit of fatigue and said he s been feeling tired over the last few months. he also had a bout of double vision. but because of those things his doctors decided to order a cat scan of his brain. this is all friday this happened. it was that cat scan and an a subsequent mri scan of the vain that revealed this abnormality. it was concerning enough that urgently, within the next couple of hours, the doctors took him to the operating room, they per
performed the incision in the left eyebrow area, removed some intone they believed they removed the entire tumor they could see from the area of the left front of his brain. this is a glee owe blas toe ma. it s the same type of tumor that senator kennedy had, that bo biden had. it is an aggressive type of brain cancer. so senator mccain and his family are dealing with the news and trying to decide the next steps in terms of treatment. he is at home, he was able to go home the next day after surgery. he had a rapid recovery. the doctors told me after he woke up from the anesthesia, he was alert, sharp, able to tell you what year it was. he was making jokes with the recovery room staff. but again it takes a few days for these diagnoses to come back because the pathologist has to review it and this is what they found. what are the potential next
steps? well, this is one of those types of tumors that is it doesn t have a particular cure. there s not a type of treatment you can say is going to likely lead to cure. the types of treatments typically are a combination of che che chemo therapy and radiation to his brain. this is a discussion i m sure senator mccain and his family are going to have with doctors as how to proceed and when to proceed. just recovering from this operation can take a couple weeks, but to begin this therapy, radiation, chemotherapy. they have to wait three to four weeks until after the operation. he had the operation in arizona, at the mayo clinic there. this is a dumb question, but is this a tumor or is it more than that? this is a tumor. it is a type of brain tumor. it s a tumor that comes from the
brain as opposed to types of tumors that come from somewhere else in the body and spread to his brain. this started in his brain. people were concerned about the melanoma having spread. but this is not a melanoma. this is a malignant cancer. what that means, you operate on this, it needs to be treated as well with chemotherapy and radiation. the concern is it will come back. that s the big concern with these type of tumors. in order to try to give him the best chance at that, it is likely he ll undergo further treatments in the next several weeks. i want you to stay with us. david axle rod is also joining us and gloer ya borjer. this is very devastating news for senator mccain and his family. very tough news to hear for everybody. he was first elected to the
senate in 1986, more than 30 years ago. for the impact he has had, and continues to have, on the senate is not to be overstated. it s remarkable and don t forget he ran for the presidency twice and he told me he once came in second place, which wasn t good enough. you know, john mccain is a fighter. i think we all know that, all of us tonight. and, you know, this is a man who survived fire on the forest, shot out of a plane, would you say tortured, five years in a pow camp, melanoma. we ve been talking to folks close to mccain. he s been on the phone talking about his statements on health care and continuing to work. if i know john mccain he s going to want to get back to work as soon as possible and want to continue to do what he does best, which is represent the people of arizona. and be the lion that he is in
the united states senate. you covered capitol hill for a long time, talk about the influence senator mccain has there and within the republican party. i interviewed him a number of times, he has a great sense of humor and is engaged in not just domestic issues but international. the only people who can call people little jerks and mean that as a term of indeerment, which he does. there is nobody who is the kind of fighter that john mccain is, never mind all the things he went through in vie yet nam, the melanoma he had in 2000, but that he s going constantly. warp speed always. you mention it had impact he had in the senate, a huge impact. but he has a huge impact
globally. just this year alone, anderson, 75,000 miles to 15 nations across three continents he logged. i was talking to chris coons who went back to vietnam with john mccain and talked about the fact that chris coons, who s about 30 years younger than john mccain. he had to change his own schedule because he couldn t keep up with mccain. and the way he said mccain is revered by leaders across the country, even especially in vietnam, which was really interesting. b but covering mccain in the senate and i covered his presidential campaign in 2008 from start to finish. he has a fighter pilot s mentally which is you keep going and keep going. you don t look back, you don t
think about regrets, because we all have them. but you keep going. that is his m.o.. there s no question knowing him and the way he likes to fight and he s probably also telling his joke that is he told on the campaign trail, in the words of chairman mow, it s always darkest before it s black. anybody who can survive what he did with his brothers in arms he spent years there under excruciating conditions. he is a fighter and he also in so many ways he s one of those politicians that transcends party lines. he does. i spent an hour with him the initial ax files on cnn with john mccain. and to hear him tell the story of his captivity and those very dismal years but the strength he
drew from that experience and the lessons he drew from that experience was incredibly moving. yes, he s one of those people who has over the last 30 years found a way to work across party lines on issues like immigration reform, climate change. it didn t always make him popular with the base of the republican party. but even on the health care issues, as he was waiting for this diagnosis, he was issuing statements on bipartisan health care. i think that s who john mccain is. when i sat here listening to you and sanjay read that news, discuss that news, i thought of his friend ted kennedy, who eight years ago eight or nine years ago got a diagnosis like this and continued to fight through it, worked through it. but two those worked together on many, many issues. and, in fact, john mccain spoke at ted kennedy s memorial
service. there aren t that many giants left in the united states senate. john mccain is a giant. we certainly wish him and his family the best tonight. i know there are a lot of people across the country and people he s met all around the world who are saying a prayer for him. so thank you all. in other words the president weighs in on his attorney general. he said to the new york times, you ll hear it all next. and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you choicehotels.com. badda book. that s it?. he means book direct at choicehotels.com for the lowest price on our rooms guaranteed. plus earn free nights and instant rewards at check-in. yeah. like i said. book now at choicehotels.com
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yet at what is on the president s mind, the russian probe the man in charnl of it had to recuse himself. the president spoke to the new york times. the headline only hints at how much news he made. he expresses anger with comey and sessions and mueller. this interview is something. i want to start with what he told you about attorney general sessions. what did he say? he was clearly frustrated with jeff sessions he said that he would not have appointed him if he had known that he would recuse himself from anything russia related. he would have appointed somebody else. we know that donald trump has been angry with jeff sessions for quite some time, but it was a pretty remarkable statement for him to make on the record, for him to vent his ooire that y and make clear that he considers what jeff sessions did, which was a recusal because he was concerned about a conflict to be
praum problematic he faulted sessions for turning an easy question into a hard one at the senate confirmation hearing. it s a sentiment a fair number of critics agree with. he also said that if sessions hadn t recused himself there wouldn t have ended up being a special counsel, is that right. he did. a couple weeks ago the president s anger with sessions was really at the root of what he was saying had to do with other issues. he believed if sessions had not recused himself from russian there would be no rod rosenstein stepping up, no special counsel appointed. it is all the original sin from there. he was less about mueller but he was clear that he believed mueller had a number of conflict of interest one of which trump aides talked about for quite some time was that they say that
bob mueller interviewed as interim fbi director the by the way day before he was appointed special counsel. they consider that a mitigating factor to put it mildly. the president refused to say what he would consider a violation of the charge on the part of bob mueller. he wouldn t answer it. but he believes mueller s charge is on russia and he doesn t believe he s under investigation. he doesn t believe he is personally under investigation by bob mueller. that s what he said. he also had choice words for former fbi director james comey. he did. he said any number of choice words about james comey for some time. but he was very specific that he, you know, believed that comey was trying to essentially get leverage over him with that dossier, making all sorts of wild allegations about president trump and his appearance in russia in 2013.
you know, he as we know, he was not happy with comey for quite some time, long before he actually fired him. there had been some belief that he might fire him immediately upon taking office. but i will say his frustration was less trained on comey than on sessions today. the allegation against comey, this goes back to the meeting when u.s. intelligence officials at the time briefed then president elect trump in trump tower and as comey has testified, comey pulled him aside after the meeting and told him about the existence of this dossier or two-page summary of thises dossier, the president saying he believes comey did that to get leverage to keep his job. essentially comey wanted to keep his job and that was the point in showing it to him. again, the president feels sort of vindicated as i think you have seen him say publically,
that comey had to acknowledge under oath that he had told the president three times he was under investigation, he said he would not say that publically because it might change. the president doesn t accept that as an answer and was very frustrated that comey wouldn t say it publically. again, i think his frustration with the dossier continues and this was a piece of that. the white house went after cnn and others who reported that comey had briefed the president about the existence of the dossier and the two-panl summary of the dossier. i remember having a conversation with kellyanne conway where they seemed not to know it happened or denied it had happened. so the president is confirming, as has been confirmed already, that it did occur. it s fascinating to hear his perspective why that briefing took place with comey he thinks.
and the second conversation with putin he said it lasted only 15 minutes. i have to go back and check the transcript what was said i just raid ead it he said 1 minutes because we have other sources that were there that said about an hour. he was adamant with that time frame, which was consistent with what white house officials said yesterday about this second get together. he was not defining it in his mind as an actual meeting. he told a long and elaborate story about sitting next to japan s prime minister s wife. he got up to see his own wife next to putin. they started talking. he did say the topic of russian adoption came up when he was talking to putin at the newer meeting. the topic of russian adoption, as you recall, was supposedly part of the subject of this meeting that the president s son, don junior had with the
russian lawyer on june 9, 2016, one that was ultimately billed as dirt against hillary clinton. so it was surprising that came up, i have no reason to believe that it was anything other than coincidence. but the adoption relates to sanctions. it sounds like he didn t mention it, it be sounds like putin mentioned it. so if putin mentioned it, they re talking about sanctions. that was my read, but i don t want to get ahead of what the president said in his remarks. how does his demeanor seem? incredibly upbeat. when i contrast him on air force one last week and today with some of what we saw earlier in the administration, for whatever reason, he seems to be in a pretty good place. fascinating reporting as always. thank you. thank you. one other notable item from
the interview, asked if mr. mueller s investigation would cross a red line if it looked at his family s finances. he said, i would say yes. he was asked what he would do, he said listen this is about russia. your panel is back. gloria, have you ever heard of a time when the president of the united states says such things about the attorney general, who he appointed, an oig who wttorn who was one of his earliest supporters, campaigned for him? no, his earliest supporter somebody who was with him every step of the way and i think what you heard in hearing maggie and in reading this remarkable piece in the new york times is that this is a president who s very angry at a lot of people who work for him, i made a list,
jeff sessions, comey who used to work for him, andrew mccain, rod rosenstein, and of course special counsel mueller who he is not directly threatening but saying you have a lot of conflicts out there. so this is a list of. vegrieve enss. even though he was upbeat in mood, you could hear the grievance in the new york times piece. i talk to people who talk regularly with the president for months and we were told this is something he will not let go for months, his anger and ire at jeff sessions for recusing himself. if you remember, go back to his tweet, one of the first tweets he sent that got him as n big trouble as president it was the saturday morning after jeff sessions recused himself where
the president tweeted that president obama was tapping trump tower. it was donald trump lashing out in furry, you know, maybe pointing his anger in the wrong direction, but that was where all of that came from. from jeff sessions recusing himself. and since then, as the president himself has now said in public on the record to the new york times. so many bad things for him have stemmed from that recusal. having said all that it s one thing to hear about private conversations the president has about his attorney general and how upset he is, it s another thing to throe jeff sessions under the bus and then put it in reverse and come back and do it again in the new york times. this isn t a former attorney general. this is a sitting oig. the person who he put in charge. and as i you said anderson, a guy who went out on a very big
limb to endorse president trump. and that gave him credibility with the republican base in the campaign. does this mean that sessions needs to resign or something? i don t think so. donald trump operates by his own rules. jeff sessions is the attorney general. i m going to see on friday he s going to be giving a talk in philadelphia. he will continue pushing for longer prison sentences for more civil forfeiture, it s a bizarre situation, there s no doubt about that. but he is still the attorney general, he will continue to do what he s doing, advancing an agenda, which is basically donald trump s agenda but just under this weird cloud. i don t think he has to resign. if he had any dignity he would. i think he should resign. first of all, i d have to talk to maggie, i don t think it s in the report, but was this unsew listed? was it in response to a question. he may have been asked about something. i think to his point, why
give this interview today of all days where health care is obviously the thing this is right after the lunch with the senators about health care. that s the other thing. nobody stands up to donald trump. we had him humiliate senator helder at that lunch and then he does this. i d love to see jeff sessions walk away at this point and on principle walk away. what s the the principle? i think go ahead. i think i think one of the reasons he went after jeff sessions is he blames jeff sessions for the rabbit hole of the russia investigation as he sees it. he said jeff sessions s led to the special counsel. he said jeff sessions is the one person who actually did the right thing. what jeff sessions did in that moment was honorable. but if you look at it i agree with you, but if you look at it from the president s point of view, the point he made to the times is okay if you wanted
to recuse yourself and you knew all along that you couldn t deal with russia, tell me before i made you attorney general. he thinks that jeff sessions works for him. exactly. i agree with you. but i m telling you i m channelling the president here as hard as that is, but that s his point of view. that s right. e he thinks everybody works for him. the presidency, the white house is about him. he doesn t care about health care he can have a nice lunch and elbow some people in the ribs he doesn t care about the agenda that jeff sessions is implementing as the head of the department of justice, he views him as his personal lawyer and he s not doing his job. he doesn t see the mueller investigation as an independent investigation. he wants mueller to know he retains the right to get rid of him if he cross it is line. say what you will about donald trump you know what s on his mind. he doesn t sugar coat it. it s clear. he approaches its like a job interview. if you knew before you took the
job you were going to recuse yourself, you should have told me before i gave you the job. that s right. and, you know, there is a corner of what trump says that makes a certain amount of sense. what really led sessions to recuse himself is that convoluted and false answer he gave which the president criticized him. to al frank from minnesota. he which he denied meeting any russians. which put sessions under the russia investigation, which meant he did have to recuse himself. there s no doubt that sessions made the right choice, the ethical choice in recusing himself. but that led to the mueller investigation, which is plaguing donald trump. he was on the campaign. he was a surrogate for donald trump. so even had that not happened, he probably still should have recused himself from this case. i think jeff sessions in that
case did the right thing and that s what he s being attacked for. it s also interesting that he s accusing former fbi director comey basically trying to leverage the dossier to try and keep his job. do we have any evidence to suggest this actually happened, beside the president leveling this accusation? no, we don t. because comey testified about this, explaining why he felt he should give the information to the president. that he worried that if my memory serves me correct, that down the road the president finds out about it and he thinks they kept it from him, that wouldn t be fair. that s right. and that s what i was thinking about when you were asking me that question, james comey s tom this issue and the question of why he decided to pull the president-elect aside because he wasn t yet the president, when they briefed him in trump tower and give him this information and the fact that that that
the president s then president-elect s reaction was so unbelievable that he had to run down to his car, pull out his laptop and write it in a way that he could remember and retain the contemporaneous notes but do it in a way that wasn t classified. there s no question about that. if memory serves me, and i might be wrong about that, but it was a decision by all the intelligence heads that comey would be the one to do this. right. i m not sure it was comey saying i want to be the one to do it because maybe this will give me leverage. that s true. now at the time the intelligence heads the others were obama appointees because he wasn t president. maybe it made sense because he was the guy staying on because he had a ten-year term. comey sin insists he did it for the right reasons. he felt if this was out there he wants the president to have a heads up about it, not because he was warning the president if
he fires james comey it s going to get out there. it doesn t really make a whole lot of sense, but having said that i think taip take a step back. this comey story, the jeff sessions story and more recently mueller. you have such a sense in this interview about where the president s mind is. he is obsessing about these things. some of the things that he can t change that happened before, you know, really many months ago with comey, a guy he already fired. about feeling betrayed by his current attorney general and not having control over the current special prosecutor. and what are we talking about now we re talking about russia and we re doing it because it is the president of the united states who just blew a whole tank of oxygen into the story. you also get the sense this is a president who believes that everybody is out to get him. and talking about mueller, look he interviewed for fbi director.
you know, i didn t give him that job now he has this and democrats working for him. rod rosenstein comes from maryland everybody knows there aren t a lot of republicans in maryland. andrew mccabe s wife gave money to the democrat policy. so it s not about mueller s qualifications or rod rosenstein s qualifications. it s about where he sees them on the spectrum and it s black and white, they re either with me or against me. and we should say maggie said he seemed upbeat, when we talk about obsessing and stuff, according to to maggie he seems in a good head space. that was the report that i got from several republicans who were in the health care meeting that he had with all republican senators. that he was jovial, that he tweaked senators like rand paul stop going after republicans on
tv, maybe i should take you golfing to get you off tv for three days. but this particular issue he seizes on it and expands it. any professional would tell you stop talking about it he can t. the white house efforts to down play the second meeting between the president and vladimir putin at the g20 meeting, more on that ahead. when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites. fast relief in every bite. crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum new tums chewy bites.
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presidential meeting with vladimir putin they made no effort to actually disclose. first we have breaking news on the three participants on the other undisclosed meeting. the one at trump tower last year billed as an attempt to get dirt on hillary clinton. we learned that donald trump jr., paul manafort, and jirk have dates to testify on capitol hill. they ve been called before the senate judiciary committee that s been scheduled on wednesday however paul manafort s spokesperson has confirmed he s been invited. we haven t heard from donald trump jr. s representatives. but senators expect both men to appear. the testimony by donald trump jr. as well as paul manafort that will be in public. it will be in public. if they both appear as requested it will be the first time senators will be able to drill
into them on details about the june 2016 meeting that was set up on behalf of the oligarch. the russia american lobbyist so a lot of questions that could come from the senators if don junior and paul manafort do, in fact, appear. they wouldn t be at the same time, i would assume one would be after the other. we have two different sessions they re scheduled to appear in the second session to presumably they would be one right after the other and not at the same time. jared kushner also testifying next week before another committee, is that public? what do we know. that is definite. he will be appearing on monday. it s a closed session before the snal senate intelligence committee. the questions although we won t see it play out in public. it will likely include what he knew about the meeting at trump tower and senators will probably drilled into why jared kushner has amended his security form at
least twice now. to disclose meetings with the russian ambassador, the chairman of the bank and the june 2016 meeting. so a lot of questions there, but that one while it s definite it will playout behind closed doors when jared kushner goes before the senate intelligence committee. thanks for that. the white house gave another one of their no cameras allowed press briefings today. they used some of it to talk about the president s previously revealed meeting with vladimir putin. it seems silly, said sarah huckabee-sanders, that we would disclose a dinner that he was already participating in. keep in mind the dinner isn t the issue, that was known. the meeting was not and the white house made it no effort to make it known. it s one in a string of previously unknown contacts big and small and people in donald trump s circle and russias. the undisclosed meeting with
jeff sessions, michael flynn, it goes on. we re focussing tonight on the latest. it s important to point out this is what presidents do, meet with foreign leaders however after wards they do not conceal the meeting while pretending there s nothing unusual about concealing it. what s also not normal is the time of the meeting. not even another interpret orwas present. putting the quote from sarah huckabee-sanders in context because it s a bold claim to make. it s a bold claim to make but in line with what the white house was doing all day. saying this was a normal meeting, something that was not a surprise. the reality is the white house only disclosed this last night, 11 days after the meeting because it had already leaked out. it was not a normal meeting. they were having a dinner but the fact that the president was there having dinner sitsing next
to the japanese prime minister. that s why the translator only spoke japanese. he was not intended to speak with the russian president that evening. they spoke earlier in the day for some two hours and 15 minutes. all eyes were on that meeting but it seems they had more to talk about. but this is what sarah huckabee-sanders said at the press briefing. they had a conversation, i m not going to get into the conversation. again this was a social dinner where the president spoke with many world leaders as is the purpose. i think it would be awkward for them to all sit at a dinner and not speak to each other. i would imagine all of you would agree with that. it seems silly we would disclose a dinner that he tha we had announced to you as participating in. yes, we knew he was at dinner with the other world leaders at the g20 summit but it was the fact he had a separate
conversation that drew the attention of other world leaders that they were spending time together at the exclusion of other allies, but the white house would not say what they talked about during the meeting. president trump revealed more about what he said was in the meeting with president putin and put forth a new time line, basically saying it was much shorter. right he said the meeting was some 15 minutes or so to the new york times. i asked last night, a top administration official if the meeting was an hour long because that s what the people were saying that broke this story. and they said nearly an hour. the president saying 15 minutes. we know they stayed at that venn knew until midnight, long after it was scheduled. so i m not sure the 15 minutes is accurate. we ve seen story after story not necessarily the real story. the white house would not tell us today the length of the meet meting we asked sarah
huckabee-sanders about that, she would not say how long it was or what they talked about. the reason it makes a difference is because there is no u.s. record of what happened at the meeting and a translator was only by the russian government. it s highly extraordinary, unusual to have a conversation like that between adversaries without having at least a translator from your own government there to make sure things aren t mixed up, confused and that was not the case. appreciate the update. joining us now is ian bremer and thomas pickering. rey ian the white house released an official statement calling this a brief conversation minutes after that an unnamed senior white house official told jeff zelenys after close to an hour. you have sources inside the room, do you know how long this was? yeah look the reason i found out about it is because a number
of the 2: g20 allies were unnerved by the fact that trump s best meeting and best chemistry, clearly closest relationship among all these countries is with putin. it was the fact it was in front of all these people, it wasn t by himself. he s putting on display this very engaged, e ner jet ik, one hour conversation that apparently the senior white house official also confirmed to you, trump saying 15 minutes is unfortunately just not credible as we ve seen on so many of these issues on the u.s. russia discussion. in terms of other details, where in the room was it? other people were around other world leaders were around watching this you said? yes, there were a lot of empty seats because a number of the leaders and spouses didn t actually come. so as a consequence, true doe s wife was seated by hergs with
empty seats on either side. i believe there was an empty seat near putin. so trump gets up leaves the japanese prime minister, the meal is 3 1/2 hours long. trump goes over to putin, my understanding it was at the table or right next to it and started engaging in this conversation, which now he hear is about adoption, read sanctions, and frankly, who knows what else. ambassador, when you hear the details, there s a big difference between a 15-minute meeting in which pleasantries can be exchanged and a discussion of nearly an hour. do you see a difference in that? do you believe there is? i do anderson. i think it s self-evident p. i think ian made it very clear. my sense is a conversation that long is probably half interpretation time and half statements on each side. that s still a half hour. a half hour is long time in international conversation. and talking about critical
subjects can consume a half an hour very easily. i think we re now seeing some of the results of that. i understand that the syrian rebels are no longer going to be supported by the united states. one wonders where that came from and how it fit in either to that context or perhaps other things that one way or another are part of the u.s./russian dialogue. i think it s important not to, in fact, let the message here be the problem so much as understanding that it is important for putin and trump to talk, were there allied jealousies and it was unwise to do this in front of allies, but allied je lieied je low sis asi, they ve been in a deep hole. if putin and trump can dig us out in a serious way, fine. but it doesn t look like we have
the great deal maker at work here if, in fact, we re ceasing something that was in our interest and in our way of dealing with the syrian problem was to support the opposition to assad, who we would like to see gone. so those are important pieces to look at. i think we don t know, we ll perhaps find out, we perhaps won t find out if there s no u.s. record. it s interesting that president trump telling maggie haberman that the issues of adoption came up, obviously on the russian he was saying it came up, i m not sure if he means he brought it up or putin brought it up. if putin did, adoption for russia means sanctions. clearly putin has been talking about the need to remove the sanctions for some time. another interesting point to the very appropriate one tom just brought up. is the russians have given the
americans an ultimatum, they want these properties back and they re not do going to engage in a deal for them. and in the last few days we hear they re close with the trump administration to get these properties back. again, is there a qid for that quo. was this discussed between trump and putin privately. the russians were the only ones with a read out of that conversation. i think all of that is problematic for the united states and russia. i think one of my big concerns is that trump gets played here. he doesn t have his national security advisor or team he doesn t have any expertise on this issue. in the same way when he was in saudi arabia, we saw the saudis and others hosting him very well and saying you re a great guy and saying the evil irans and qatar supporting them and then we have a move against qatar and
our allies and then tillerson and matson have to clean it up. to what extent is trump operating by himself going to give away the store. that s the concern here. i think people listening to this those people who like president trump say what s the big deal, he should talk to president putin. others who don t like president trump would have concern. have you heard about this happening before where there s not someone with the u.s. president or there was no talking points. i don t know if there were talking points or not. i think what is unusual is not to have one interpret tor from the u.s. side. it may have been it was unplanned and he had the japanese speaking interpret tor, and he thought had had to go and do some business. it was unwise if there were any difference in interpretations,
two russians will agree and he will be out there alone. i don t think putin wants to in a sense publically nail him to the wall in a set of verbal arguments at the time, it s not in putin s interest especially if he s doing well. it is extremely unusual to do that. i do know that in the oval office there are often meetings with heads of state in which part of the meeting is a group meeting and part of the meeting is a one-on-one with interpr interpretors if that s necessary. that s to settle carefully prepared business worked up in advance and very much part and parcel of a government clearance process in which they say mr. president we recommend you do this, i agree, or i m going to do something else go prepare that for me. but unprepared and at this stage unverifiable. it has its dangers and one needs
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meeting, still taking place at this late hour on capitol hill. you had moderates like lisa murkowski and conservatives like ted cruz. their goal would be to find a way around this impasse that divides the moderate and conservative wings of the party to move forward with a bill that would repeal and replace obamacare at the same time. the white house is involved, as well. we saw reince priebus walk in not too long ago. even though this meeting looks good and we got a lot of happy talk today out of senators and the white house, aides are cautioning us that these fundamental problems that exist still exist and they are a long way away from cutting a deal. the cbo report saying that 32 million fewer people would have health care coverage, explain more about what the report says. reporter: well, the cbo score was devastating to the republicans on a number of levels. you talked about how it will
impact people on insurance. there was a deficit decrease in that report, but the real problem is what it says is going to happen to premium costs. that s long been the argument that repeal would lead to lower premiums. republicans would only argue this is only about the repeal portion and even if they only repeal, they have a plan to replace obamacare within two years, but some of these provisions would take place right away. so even though you heard talk about putting repeal only on the table first, that it s really the desire of almost all republicans to do repeal and replace at the same time. the problem is, they re just having such a hard time coming up with an agreement that everyone can get on board with. thank you very much. the white house just weighed in on the whcbo numbers saying it flawed because it doesn t take into account the president s full plan. the president is blaming democrats for the republican s
failure to get health care reform done. the way i looked at it, we have no democrat help. they re obstructionists. that s all they re good at is obstruction. they have no ideas. democrats are saying hey, wait, we do have our own plans, including senator joe manchin. senator, the cbo score, premium also double by 2026 and 36 million americans lose their insurance, how much does that change the equation? from my point of view it doesn t, saying we re going to save $470 billion. that s a lot of money and we need to be as cost effective as we can. but the 32 million people that are going to lose their health care are going to be much more expensive than than. what happens to them when they go back to the way they were getting health care before? in west virginia, if you don t have health care, you go to the
emergency room. if you re working, you re going to claim worker s comp. so you re using health care at the most expensive level you can. that s money taxpayers are paying. that s exactly. i had every hospital coming to me saying hey, i gave $10 million, $15 million. people came and couldn t pay. so i know the toll it takes in states. over the last 48 hours, president trump talked about repeal and replace, talked about just repealing to let it fail, now back to repeal and replace. what do you make of the president s approach and for you, what is the priority? is it the insurance networks and propping them up? i ve tried to remind the president and the white house, the president got elected with a tremendous margin in west virginia. those were mostly democrats. these were people upset with the previous administration, who thought they wanted a change and unorthodox. they didn t think they were
electing somebody partisan like it s been before. so i would say to the president, there s a lot of democrats, a lot of people that are going to be hurt. there s not one demographic group in my state that won t be affected. a lot of people talk about bipartisanship. i talked to governor kasich yesterday about it. do you believe that s possible? we re talking about washington, d.c., where there s a lot of politics involved and each side has a reason to not cooperate with the other. anderson, we have 11 former governors and united states senators right now. four republicans, six democrats and one independent. we started talking informally, nothing formal former governors in the senate? i m a former governor for west virginia. we have 11 of us, former governors, we re recovering governors because it was the greatest job in the world because we could get things done. but we are used to in our work confinement as a governor of our state, bringing contentious
legislators together, finding a purpose of moving forward, understanding the challenges every state has. we understand that. we think that we can add some clarity to this, and also some bipartisanship. that s what we re working on. so i ve said if the governors can t do it, nobody can. chuck schumer yesterday said that democrats are open to working with republicans, the door is open. he did seem to put self-preconditions on that cooperation. should there be preconditions on getting democrats to sit at the table? the only precondition we need is we re not going to repeal it, and the other precondition we need is we re going to go through a regular order. we re going to sit down and dissect the bill. nibble who has an idea, an amendment that comes before it goes through this process. that s the way legislatures work. that s the way the united states senate should work. we haven t done that for quite some time. that s the only preconditions you should have. anybody else that has an idea should be discussed. can republicans who have

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fasten your seatbelts, federal judge in hawaii blocked the travel been just before it takes effect, has extended that order. derek watson further blocking the government from restricting noncitizen travelers from six muslim majority countries. in seattle mayor ed murray announced he is suing the trump administration over threats to withhold federal funds from sanctuary cities who refused to cooperate with federal immigration officials, that brought several sanctuary city mayors and police chiefs to washington for a meeting with john kelly seeking to find some common ground. it is absolutely untrue that our priorities anything other than keeping our communities safe. we don t have the resources to be the immigration police, nor would that benefit the population, nor will that be proven.
we cooperate with ice, make sure we are aware of who is in our custody but we do not prosecute based on immigration status. first priority is to keep the bad guys off the street. cutting funding, taking resources away and threatening makes the problem worse, not better. this means there is certainly a national debate about sanctuary cities and this is all about safety. we will hear a lot more about it and head for what would be the administration s clear definition of what a sanctuary jurisdiction is. it could end up in the supreme court. heather: lawmakers will vote on a new deal ending the controversial bathroom bill, gop leaders reach an agreement with democratic governor roy cooper, right now it requires transgender people to use public restrooms corresponding to the
sex at birth. this leaves lawmakers in charge of the policy, but got local governments cannot has not determination ordinances. the senate intel committee holding its first hearing on russia, a probe of russia s alleged interference in the 2016 election which was just expanded, thousands of interviews now being reviewed. senator richard burr quick to shut down suggestions that he can t be fair just because he supported president trump. having served as an advisor on the trump campaign, you can oversee an impartial absolutely. i will do something i have never done. i have a job in the united states senate and i take the job extremely seriously. with members of our committee to get to the bottom of this.
heather: face-to-face interviews on monday. jared kushner, senior advisor for the president, is included. abby: the images are horrifying, a church bus patch with parishioners scattered on a texas highway. police hoping to piece together what caused the head on collision that left 13 people dead. marianne rafferty has breaking details, this is just devastating. devastating and heartbreaking, 13 church members returning from a bible study retreat killed in a deadly head on crash. only one person on board is alive this morning. they are coming through evidence and debris across the highway near san antonio. reporter: they are finding comfort in prayer and each
other. the lord tells us we have today and tomorrow is not promised. those who have lost their life, we can be certain the governor kept his promise in our life. the difficulty of moving through, we need a lot of prayer. reporter: governor greg abbott sending dollars as to the victims family. two survivors hospitalized this morning, one person in the van is in critical condition, the truck driver is stable. a witness on the road telling a local paper she saw erratic driving right before the crash. the cause of the accident still under investigation at this hour. abby: thank you. turning to extreme weather two
children are dead, electrocuted by a downed power line after powerful storms ripped through fort worth, texas was the 11 and 12-year-old believed to be brothers. officials morning those in the area to steer clear of downed power lines and report them immediately. now the thread is moving east bringing hail, high wind and tornadoes, millions of americans at risk throughout the weekend. oh my gosh. reporter: several twisters touching down in texas, powerful windss 90 mph ripping apart roofs, destroying homes outside dallas and outside houston huge wind blowing strongly, metal shipping containers tossed around like toys, two people are injured. a midair tragedy on a passenger plane, the first officer of an american airlines flight moments
after landing, the pilot declaring a medical emergency two miles from the albuquerque new mexico airport, the plane landed safely but paramedic scrambled to save the first officer who has been identified as william grubb. investigators working to find out the cause of his death. chaos erupting on capitol hill, police forced to open fire to stop an erratic driver who tried to run over officers. thalia everett has been charged with 12 criminal counts including consulting several officers was when they tried to stop her she hit one car before veering towards police. thankfully in all of this no one was injured. police do not know why she did it and it is not terrorist related. the first daughter announcing she will serve as an unpaid advisor to the president, she was getting a west wing office and security clearance but would not officially join the administration.
the white house says it is, quote, pleased that ivanka has taken the step in her unprecedented role as first daughter in support of the president. abby: melania delivers a keynote speech at the women of courage award. the first lady speaking at the state department on gender equality and supporting women on a global scale. these women are extraordinary examples to find the courage that lies inside us all to change the world. reporter: melania handing out awards to 12 women who have overcome justice to environmental disaster and they have gone on to transform their societies. it is 9 minutes after the hour. for us to give her heads up to illegals to steer clear from remote ice raids.
i can t think of anything more irresponsible and underhanded undermining law enforcement, people what the state representative did. then replaced a warning with a request for money. the massachusetts lawyer is now under fire. the coffee shop creating a stir by allowing members to hold once the president s head. where you should go for summer vacation, you can start turning your dreams into reality. have your credit card could help you save big but first, the weather across the country today.
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now i am shining dry abby: live look at the washington monument. the cherry blossoms are in bloom. it is absolutely beautiful. we are back to this story, your federal tax dollars used to fund is in public schools on how to practice islam. that the purpose of education is funding education materials to teach kids passages along with how to say and perform muslim prayers was the doe says it does not fund or can encourage the use of a particular curriculum but lessons are funded by agencies, there are no some of the programs offered for other
major world religions leading a christian group to wonder why. can you imagine the outrage if the students were given scripture from the new testament and told they have to interpret that new testament scripture and explain how christians use that scripture in their everyday life. the aclu would be running to the courthouse steps, there would be lawsuits and they would break a leg trying to get up those steps fast enough. the correction action network asked pbs to remove the lesson from its website. the democratic lawmaker wants to force public universities in the state of california to make abortion pills available to students. the proposed bill would require student health insurance plans to cover medical abortions on campus. pro-life groups are already protesting or preparing to protest. a teenager denied giving her grandmother opportunity she
never had. a high school in alabama under fire saying he is not allowed to bring his nanny as his date. my grandmother has always been an important part of my life. why not take her? don t you want to take someone else? know. i want my nanny. the story spreading on social media with a hashtag let nanny go to prom, the school is standing by its decision saying the rules allow dates 20 years old to attend. they are afraid the grandmother will bring alcohol to the prom to give teenage students. really? pittsburgh coffee shop brewing up some controversy with loyalty cards. every time a customer makes a purchase employees punch through the heads of people management doesn t like including donald trump and bill o reilly.
the owner says it is meant as a joke. they are not threatening the president, we do not want to physically hurt him, we don t condone hate, it is who we are. abby: the coffee shop is receiving threatening messages from earl around the country. bill o reilly has his fans, don t want to mess with him. it may only be march but if you want to go all out for summer vacation you should start planning right now. cheryl casone he here with tips to start saving for that trip today. steve: there are ways to fund the get away without maxing out your card. it requires a spending plan. put your tax refund right into your savings account, taxpayers will get a refund this year. you can also enroll in automatic savings each month. also sign up for a rewards credit card from airlines or hotel chains, every dollar you spend gets you points you can
redeem. tickets, discounts, cash. and brownbag it to work, pack a lunch, bagel and coffee for breakfast and sandwich, snack, all of that really adds up if you look at the money you are spending and cut your grocery go by looking at the checking account and estimating what you spent in groceries through bank statement, a good summary as well. you could save $400 per month if you do this. finally time is on your side. you have a lot of time to look for deals. the best time to book a domestic flight, 54 days before departure date. back to you. abby: 18 minutes after the, immigrants outraged for sharing a picture of tax returns to prove she s a good citizen. the call for her deportation. get ready to stand in longer
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he carries a briefcase but no one else thinks that is a little freaky. michael sat down with one of the stars. everyone s favorite friend, taking on the role of alec baldwin s mom. i caught up with her in beverly hills to talk about her latest role. it was just the three of us, life was perfect until that one fateful day. meet your new baby brother. it spans all ages. new baby comes into the household and to a 7-year-old they take it over and there is a limited amount of love. how great is alec baldwin? it is hilarious. he is hilarious.
it is so perfect. you hear that voice coming out of the baby and they made it the cutest baby. what is the process like? really hard to be alone with your voice but i was lucky because i got to do one day with jimmy kimmel. he is just a baby. i m actually reacting. when you think about it i didn t realize how easy acting was when there is another actor and you react with him. how would you describe lisa kudrow as a lost? hopefully i am reasonable. do you give advice? if they ask for it. i m always offering advice because i m older so i feel entitled. we have to convince him. no way, no, you don t mean us
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jeff sessions to withhold federal funds from sanctuary cities who refused to cooperate with federal immigration officials. the u.s. constitution says the federal government may not coerce local governments by denying them federal dollars if they are not your main to the program in question but that is exactly what the president s order does. reporter: it is not just seattle. that issue brought several things worry city mayors and police chiefs to washington for a meeting. john kelly seeking to find common ground so i headed over there to get some answers. caricatures of what a sanctuary city is and get criminals off our streets, we are pushing to make sure we
depoliticize this and focus on what exactly we are talking about. so we can be aligned and do it together as a team to make america safe again. reporter: politicizes what it has been and we are headed for clear definition from the administration. secretary kelly s assistant telling us no decision is made until the definition comes out. it is all about safety. martha: 7 a facebook warning about a rumored immigration raid, posting again online as the sheriff of the same state accused of fear mongering and obstructing justice. we have an elected official who has gone out of her way not to protect the citizens of the community but to harbor people
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oklahoma is one of 24 states allowing citizens to shoot someone their safety is threatened. the illegal immigrant accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old classmate at school will be in a maryland courtroom, a bond review is set for a montano, his attorney claims she gave consent over a text message before the incident. henry sanchez is also undocumented, they are accused of forcing the girl into a school bathroom and brutally assaulting her. step down or face impeachment, secretary of state to resign after a new report shows 300 illegal immigrants were given notary positions, christopher miller claims secretary elaine marshall accepted dreamer id cards which are not valid to prove residency, homeland security excludes the notary authorization the lawmaker is involved in. donald trump may find a warm
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of the general assembly building at 9:15, once that goes through the senate it will go back to the note and it doesn t mean it will necessarily pass the house and the senate. abby: offices across the country hopeful for the future now that donald trump is an office. i will always have your back 100% like you have always had my. abby: police are looking for a big change to be able to use military gear that was banned under president obama and other changes. nypd officer is joining us to weigh in. thanks for joining us. i know the police union met with donald trump tuesday and they see positive that changes need to be made and they believe it.
they felt with the last administration there was a tendon the if there was a gray situation, it wasn t black-and-white he would default to it was the police s fault, this job requires morale, a sense of esprit they corps. donald trump is pro-police. what i m getting from law enforcement friend is they are really happy. abby: one of the promises was to reverse the executive order made in 2015 that would allow more military tile vehicles to be used. that was a bad call getting rid of this equipment, a small on tactical assault, they are not doing a 9/11 style attack focusing more on rifles and taking out large crowds of people with vehicles was this
equipment is not going to go anywhere. you are going to need this equipment and the rules of engagement, not the equipment that matters. we talk about the rules of engagement. the general public does not want to their cat on every corner. but if the equipment is controlled, the rules for using it are strictly for counterterror situations severe civil disorder, riots that are out of control that is a reasonable use of that equipment, the only question is do you get it from the military or have it on standby in case there is a big terror strike. abby: rules of engagement would be put into officers engaged in whatever circumstance there is?
the equipment is going to be necessary, you re not going to ask the police officer to roll up in a cruiser, god forbid it is going to happen. they are loosening up the red tape involved. let s talk about these attacks, breaches that happens. what is happening? seems we are hearing one every week. after the omar gonzalez incident who jumped i said to myself intimately familiar with the security plan, this is a mistake, never happen again. it just did. even worse they breached the north side and the individual having a party. abby: the information is not being disseminated as it should be. a lot of things went wrong.
the president doesn t go very often. there was some unfamiliarity with the alarms being shut off. all of this is unacceptable but the secret service is a 0 error environment. it saddens me to say i don t think we can say with certainty the president is safe in the white house under the current security plan. the agents i still talk to all know this, there are easy fixes that to be implemented right away. abby: what are those fixes? double fencing, increase special weapons offices on the north and south lawn you have to fix the uniform division, an absolute nightmare, they have a brain drain that is unsustainable. there best officers get their security clearance and are right out the door. you can t run a security plan like that.
maria: great officers and great agents for the secret service allowing them to do their job. it is a shame. abby: coming up, brian kill need with what he is talking about on fox and friends this morning. we are going to look at obama appointee, spreading out as much intelligence as possible about the trump team before they left office. you will make sense of it. will they have to go nuclear? and the senate intel committee will take a look at the russian role in the elections. i know about it in july. why do you need to know about it? here we are about to start in
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huge meeting for the president in mar-a-lago, florida. he will meet with the president of china. and the united states nations a big day of breaking news. testing time for the commander in chief who has been on the job just 76 days, an apparent chemical weapons attack in syria, scores of children and others. pyongyang patience exhausted. pressure for the president on two big fronts, pressure to consider a much needed response. first at the united nations this morning, an emergency securities council session. when the united nations consistently fails in its duty to act collectively, there are times in the life of state that we are compelled to take our own action. for the sake of the victims, i hope the rest of the council is finally willing to do the same.
will be interesting to see how much in line he is with what she just laid out. is it would be pretty hard and cause a diplomatic dustup of its own if the president of the united states didn t back up what she just said? it would. but it wouldn t be unprecedented here. we ve kind of seen different approaches from different members of the administration. ambassador haley is definitely owning this, not just what she said, but holding up the pictures from the victims with from the chemical weapons attacks would give the trump administration own decision. we ll wait to see what he says, trump, just the other day, you know, seemed to double-down on his sort of isolationist daen i tendencies. we haven t heard from secretary tillerson. and 75 days in when they re facing a lot of pressure. we ll get to north korea in a minute. and turmoil in the white house again, we re told that steve
bannon the chief political strategist has a seat on the national security council. but we ll get to that in a minute. it s actually noted it has seemed at times, nikki haley a more tradition am hawkish establishment republican seems at times she s trying to pull the president along to be tougher against russia. to say things that are more traditional orthodoxcy in the republican party. it s a big moment for her. she just assumed the president of the security council. to michael s point we ll show you the images over the hour. they re heinous and horrible to see images of young children hurt in the attack. nikki haley decided as she made her plea to the united nations to be quite dramatic. let s watch. yesterday morning, we awoke to pictures to children, foaming at the mouth, suffering
convulsions, being carried in the arms of desperate parents. we saw rows of lifeless bodies, some still in diapers, some with visible scars of a chemical weapons attack. look at those pictures. that s drawing a pretty sharp line. look at those pictures. so, there has always been this kind of natural strain of tension inside the trump administration between the kind of nationalistic threat and messaging, we ve got to take care of our own first. and the idea of projecting strength in the contrast of obama who president trump would repeatedly say during his candidacy didn t show his strength and was weak. and that was a signal to world leaders. yesterday seems to have been a tipping point inside the trump administration. however he s going to go has yet to be determined. one of the real questions about how all of this comes together
is that on president trump s initial approach towards russia, on president trump s initial approach towards the idea that we re not going to insert ourselves into what other countries do and on president trump s initial approach to human rights none of the policy has been tracking in this direction. so, if yesterday was indeed a turning point, it sets off a series of recalculations both inside the white house, the oval office and the national security council where we wille now see the kind of mcmaster/dina powell theory of how this will conduct itself playing out. we may be seeing that now. of the last ambassador giving us a speech saying this carnage here, a very direct, angry speech on what is happening in syria, now, a policy change. nikki haley gave a similar kind of speech. donald trump and barack obama neither one of them have taken aggressive action to remove assad.
has that now changed? that s a fascinating question, let s be honest, the united states under the obama administration lost credibility. the united states drew a red line with president obama about chemical weapons attacks, but he did not knowdo anything with assad. a lot of inaction by the obama administration. i think what we heard from nikki haley i think the question is does the trump administration want to end up in the same box with having the word look at what the united states says it s just words. this is a decision that the president will make by listening what does it mean with steve bannon, eyebrows raised, from chief political strategist in the administration someone who thinks george w. bush made a mistake in iraq. who doesn t think that it is and should be worried about its economy. the white house says he was there to help former national security adviser michael flynn to organize the place, to send
more power back to the pentagon, more power to the state department. they say mission accomplished, i would say that s spin. but you guys sitting at the table for the white house, what does this mean? well, part of this is say reshuffling of the white house and then settling in. i think think there s truth from the points about steve bannon. steve bannon likes to have his hands in almost every issue in the white house but the problems with flynn were early and often for them. and early and often within their own team and steve bannon and jared kushner were called in quite frequently to settle down the secretary of state or secretary of defense over how flynn was handling the nsa. and there s truth that bannon was on that council as reassurance to others, there s no question about steve s ambition and interests in wanting to be involved in those issues. we ll see how this plays out. i think we re seeing this on a
couple of different levels. and that they re just now figuring out the staffing issues. but this is a white house also, more than any white house, where rules and titles are absolutely interchangeable and in many cases meaningless, you see secretary of state secretary of state as secretary of state and but jared kushner is essentially secretary of state. i don t think bannon has walk-privileges where he friend can call the president late night at and influence policy and means he won t be involved in decisions he wants to be involved in. look, my colleague this morning, a lot of the implications are still being borne out. but steve bannon retains the clearances and steve bannon reserves the ability to sit down in a national security meeting anytime he wants to. but if you have a storied military career and you want to set the policy, a couple of
things happened, the bannon announcement happened as bau baustert was moved back in. i don t think that is, but in this case, people are now talking about foreign policy like nikki haley agree more with john mccain or marco rubio than the president himself. but the people who are speaking like nikki haley doll view the u.s. agency the leader of the free world, the more traditional world. and the more influence they gain and the diminishing influence on foreign policy say big story. and i think potentially means we re going in different directions with foreign policy. i think you re right. i think sometimes we overemphasize titles in washington. the president never served in the military. most of the senior staff never served in military.
it is interesting to watch, plus what we know about this president, he s a loyaltyist. and ivanka trump, whether steve bannon, he likes people loyal to him. so they re his antenna to what s happening in the administration. and that was known for trump voters. they understand that dynamic. you re saying this is a guy without any political experience but he will put good people around him. we re waiting now. we re going to see the president of the united states, you saw him going into the white house with king abdallah of jordan. we re going to see tape of that in a moment. we ll play you that tape as soon as we can. this is someone who knows the neighborhood. a a traditional ally in about la. there are good choices here. there are no good choice for obama or president trump. when it comes to assad. they publicly said whether it was accepted knowledge in the obama administration, assad is not going anywhere in the short term especially if he gets
economic and political help from pru russia, you heard political hawks this morning saying do something. take out command and control centers. pocket the air strips. crater them. take them out. is this a president of the united states who is also going to deal tomorrow with the chinese president and the possibility of provocation of north korea, is this a president who is prepared to do that with syria? well, you have a president who has two conflicting world views. he cares more about the projection of strength and about winning, even though that s a different way to apply to war. but he does not view his role the way president obama did or george w. bush did as exploiting democracy or american values abroad. you ll see this scum into sort of a stark conflict as he grapples with what to do in
syria. he said i don t want to be president of the world. but the president said, i know you want to focus on the economy, guess what the world has a way of crossing your desk. we ll take you inside the white house with the president s meeting with the king of jordan. and also, for republicans, the mere mention of one former obama administration s name inspires big questions about the big spy novel playing out here in washington. getting ripped off. you could start your search at the all-new carfax.com that might help. show me the carfax. now the car you want and the history you need are easy to find. show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. [laughs] ah. ahem. show me the carfax. start your used car search and get free carfax reports at the all-new carfax.com.
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apparent chemical weapons attack in syria yesterday. if you ve seen the pictures, children among the scores of people killed and named in this attack. president trump s ambassador saying that the united states won t act but the united states might feel compelled to act. the president with a press conference in the next hour. stay with cnn. we ll bring you that live as the president himself has issued a paper statement, we have not heard from him at all. he will meet with king abdallah. he ll also have a press conference in the next hour. a line drawn thatting if the u.n. will not act she feels that united states might feel compelled to act. let s listen. thank you very much. hold it, hold it, hold it. i just wanted to thank our friends, our great friends,
these are very troubled times in the middle east. and we see what happened just recently yesterday in syria, horrible, horrible thing. unspeakable. but i want to thank you both for being at the white house. and we re going to have some very interesting discussions. okay. thank you very much. syria attack of the chemical weapons, you say it s terrible, do you plan to take any action? i condemn it, it s terrible. you ll see. you ll see. the final words from the president of the united states there. reporters being ushered out of
the oval office trying to ask will there be any action from the united states related to the attack in syria that the president was talking about. he called it horrible, he called it unspeakable. the king of jordan sitting silent. the first lady as well. horrible and unspeakable but he didn t give any clue whether he will embrace the words of his ambassador to the united nations. it s also a question whether or not the american people are how they re going to feel about this, right? these images remind me of the isis beheadings back in 2014 that focused americans for the first time on isis. but that still wasn t enough to get congress to vote on obama s request for military authorization. will this be any different? will the sort of rhetoric about these images resonate back home and convince the trump administration to take action? and convince the president that maybe understanding the mood in the country that
sometimes a president has to look a country in the eye and say i know you don t want to do this, i know we ve been in the middle east a long time, but i feel a moshl obligation to act. the other is to use tough words and yesterday he put the blame on the obama administration. on the one hand, president of the united states trump would be especially well positioned if he does choose to act. he could plausibly say to voters of the country, as you said, i know this is a hard choice. i was against the war in iraq. i m very hesitant to go in. but you saw these images. this is something that we absolutely have to do. it s a question of what the president wants to do and if he has the will to do it. understanding anything he does do, the domino is, a, a complication with assad is a complication with putin. yes, and the war and military action, and the political issue, or reality, which is the president s poll numbers, among
americans, and how americans view him on issues like credibility. because part of everyone s resistance ties back to the war in iraq and the questions of wmds. unquestionable, we ve seen what happened or the effects of yesterday. that part is undeniable. but what is going to be kind of the end game of any sort of military maneuver that one would undertake? you ve seen republicans now today consistently saying we have to revert to the policy of assad must go. that has to still be the policy but then what? then what? but no disrespect intended it s also easy for people in congress to say things. they re not the commander in chief, they re not accountable. it will be interesting to see with the new national security team, with the president, whether that will play out in the hours ahead. let s shift gears for a minute, bring up the name susan rice, embrace for swift condemnation from the right. susan rice is the typhoid
mary of the obama administration foreign policy. every time something went wrong, she seemed to turn up in the middle of it, whether it was the allegations of the improper unmasking and potential improper surveillance. she s back in the news because of what some republicans say should now be a critical piecing of the rush meddling investigation. allegations by team trump that the white house played loose with sensitive intelligence information. two weeks ago, rice was on pbs and said she knew nothing about such allegations, but she changed her story yesterday, still insisting she did nothing wrong. allegations that somehow obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that s absolutely false. there were occasions when i would receive a report in which a u.s. person was referred to. name not provided, just u.s. person.
and sometimes, in that context, in order to understand the importance of the report, and assess its significance, it was necessary to find out, or request the information as to who that u.s. official was. okay, but let me give the name of mike flynn. i leaked nothing to nobody, and never have and never would. she said she did her job. one complication said i knew nothing about this to judy two weeks ago saying there was another way to answer that question without saying that. democrats say the issue is what did russia do in the election? they think this is a bright shiny light. but if susan rice says that was a great sunrise or the sun sun rises in the east, republicans saying, no, it doesn t. she s the boogiewoman. saying i know nothing about it, that people will be able to
point to it and say she lied down and also going back to benghazi and how that attack happened and it ended up not being true. she very well may be correct that she did nothing wrong in what she was doing in the routine sort of portions of her job. but the issue, as you said, is so polarized that the republicans are going to demonize it. so polarized that staffwise, republicans trying to make this about susan rice. listen to joaquin castro yesterday. democrats saying we need to get to the investigation, we think there s something there and then this. if somebody asked my impression, my impression is somebody will probably be charged and i think people will probably go to jail. i used to cover the cops, the cops and prosecutors have this interesting theory that we ll
investigate first. they re getting way out ahead of themselves here, aren t they? well, yeah but but, let s go back for a second. this is to the question, which is entirely probable, there s at least an intense discussion about calling her in circumstances, the danger zone for the republican is if they call susan rice to testify on questions that inevitably will lead back to benghazi, seusan rice is going to attempt unmavnu unmasking with questions on what gets declassified. well, the president kol coul declassify this with a stroke of a pen. describing what she did whether right or wrong, she could be questioned on that, with respect to the president. next up, the president is betting on serve two terms. his poll numbers 75 days in, pretty horrible.
we want american steel made in america. right? and you ll be hearing more about this in the very near future. but as time goes by, let s say over the next 7 3/4 years meaning 8 years that s an optimistic president trump yesterday. that was day 75 yesterday speaking to a labor did group here in washington. promising to keep his promises on the economy. and promising he ll be around for two terms. well, 76 days in, the poll numbers not so great for the president. he s defied the polls before, but his overall approval rating, just 35%. that s a bad enough. among republicans, 79% approved. that s a strong number down from a week ago or two weeks ago. white noncollege degree voters, they were critical to the president s coalition. here s the problem for president, big issues, character quality, his numbers are pretty
bad. 51% of americans in the quinnipiac poll says the president is not on here. 57 said he lacks leadership skills. 66% say he s not level headed. 61%, he s not honest. here s an interesting one here, 62% of americans, more than half the americans feel excellent or good about the economy, that ties most approval ratings. even republican voters, all americans, think president obama still gets more credit on how the economy is doing than the president. as a matter of fact, his handling of the economy under water. more americans disapprove than prove. some of this has to do with the function in washington more than the economy. the president in that speech yesterday, promising even though he didn t get a win on health care. listen to the president here, when you talk to people in congress, they say, this is months away, the president
talking big about his infrastructure plan. the back bone of america, with the talent in this room, we can build any city at anytime, and we can build it better than anyone. but we re going to do even better than that, together, we are going to rebuild our nation. now, we re not anywhere close to an an infrastructure plan. we ll come back to that in a minute. 76 days in, i applaud him trying to stay optimistic, i think you have to do that but this administration at the moment has zero big legislative wins because of disaster in health care. there s some efforts apparently to reboot that. when you look at those poll numbers 76 days in, again, this president has defied the rules of gravity many, many times but those numbers are pretty bad. in terms of re-election, the big stepup you jumped right to
re-election that s interesting. everybody hates the other party. in 2020, his numbers might go up slightly because republicans will be in mode hating the democrats like in 2016. he won the presidency by being quite unpopular. for governing, this is really hard because no one feelings the need to support. you saw rubio earlier very strongly criticizing him. you have the freedom and moderates criticizing him. that s a key point to this administration. his approval rating. you jumped to 2020, i ll go with you, if the approval rating goes down let alone elizabeth warren. mike pence spent the last couple days on capitol hill meeting mostly with the freedom caucus and other members. just to see if they can pull a rabbit out of the hat, somehow to get to the 100 day mark. to get bair repealed and
replaced. it was an embarrassment for the president. listen to the head of the freedom caucus saying they re making some progress if you want to take that at face, they re making some progress, saying maybe they can delay a congress recess if they get to the finish line. well, there s a concern on my part that if we re making real progress that going home sends the wrong message. and, you know, it is certainly important that if we re close to a deal, that we should, you know, work it out, over the next few days. to make sure that we get here, even if it means we have to cancel a few plans to get that done. congress likes that we re all laughing congress likes breaks, number one, number two, it s tough when you got nothing to sell. if you re saying if you re a republican, the last four sessions you re going to repeal and replace obamacare and now you didn t do it. to mark meadows point, he alsor.
is there anybody at the table who thinks they re close enough to get a vote? paul ryan does not think they re close. he kind of counts. he counts. very much downplaying it saying, no, no, we have conceptual ideas that we re discussing and we ll be coming back to this. he s staying away from that smartly. and yet, the vice president comes back to the table here. saying is this not good for the president. there s huge philosophical differences among the republican party. walk away. why does he keep coming back? well, he has to keep coming back. mike pence is the one who is supposed to deliver the congress to donald trump. not the freedom caucus, maybe not the one group that he s most aligned with, but the congress. and i think that it s, you know, the excuse me, the point here is that he s a big influence here. meadows sentiment is a correct
one within a weekend of closing the deal, great. stick around the weekend. it s hard to imagine after eight years they re a weekend away. and it s hard to see where the next victory is here. if he gets that victory with the freedom caucus, i assume when that bill gets sent to mitch mcconnell and the senate he s laughing on the inside, not crying. exactly. you know, if you deem from one side the way it s worked, you re taking from another. so, i mean, that gain is also a net loss. it s basically a zero sum, as you pointed out. even within the house, not to mention the senate. going back to mike pence, there was earlier question will he be the shadow president or the one that understands legislation and gets get the house guys and get them on board. i think the answer is he is not. everyone likes him and wants him to be the president. and there s a question of how much he speaks for the
president. if these guys aren t afraid of donald trump with all due respect, to mike pence, they re not afraid of him. if you accomplish two things going to whether the health care bill is still breathing, one is you could say on behalf the president, we kept trying. we promised to do this and we re trying. and number two, you have your ear to the ground on a number of other things around important know which is where does congress stand on the investigation. what to do about syria. is congress behind the president or not. all of that under the cover of working on hit care. it s not a bad deal. to the question about the polls, too, trump has got to worry about his base. the promise to voters is not that you re going to get sick of us trying. the promise is you re going to get sick of us winning and again, it s hard to see where these influences come from. can t do it if you never try it? i agree. up next, the blame game has
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welcome back. who do you blame for the latest partisan divide in congress that s likely shaped by your own political leanings. democrats say they stole a seat from president obama. republicans say democrats changed the rules for all federal judges a few years ago so changing the rules now to change it to confirm judge neil gorsuch. senator john mccain, don t like where this is heading. i d like to meet that idiot, i d like to meet that numskull that would say that. that after 200 years. at least 100 years of this tradition where the senate has functioned pretty well, they d think it would be a good idea to blow it up.
whoever says that is a stupid idiot. they ve not been here and seen what i ve been through and how we were able to to avoid that on several occasions. and they re stupid and deceived their voters because they re stupts stupid. i m unclear what senator mccain falls on this. stupid. and it employs consensus which you don t hear about. it left a bad taste but he s going to vote for judge gorsuch. yeah, it s really a bad taste. and it also raises a concern of could they ever do away with the legislative filibuster. you remember when we first changed the rules, they said we re changing to get through president obama s lower level appointments we would never touch a supreme court
filibuster. now they re about to go nuclear on the filibuster. they all behave like a bunch of mani maniacs, but the senate is easier to cover because they behave as rational adults even in this polarized era. mighty kind of you. i think what you re seeing happening, as these things sort of slip away, there s a concern especially that the senators could become like the house which everyone believes is good for no one. if you re watching anywhere in america, outside of washington and the suburbs, you think, here they go again, nuclear options, we use a language that didn t make sense. for those of you who actually go about your lives, you do a lot of things at once. the founders wanted the senate to go more slowly. the big question is if you take away the phfilibuster on suprem
court justices, would you do it on others? mitch mcconnell, again, a traditional says, no, at least not yet. who would be the biggest beneficiary of that right now? it would be the majority, right? there s not a single senator in the majority who thinks we ought to change the legislative filibuster. not one. there s no sentiment to change the legislative filibuster. i think senator schumer said after being on one the sunday shows, we are were on back to back, i think he said no sentiment on that side either. there s no threat to legislative filibuster. again, the language doesn t make sense for a lot of people watching in the country. they probably thing this is boring, partisan, sometimes, children but actually this matters in terms of legislative fights to come and the attempts to run the senate. the point of the senate, like
they kcould deliver a body is t encourage grow myself, right? so how much does power have. it encourages democrats and republicans and coalitions to fight. all of that by the way, mitch mcconnell has had a lot to do with that because the flip side of a filibuster, of the threat of a filibuster is they won t use it all the time. the threat of fill buster is a special thing that never got triggered. well up to mitch mcconnell s rise, he s threatening filibuster all the time. he helped push this button. and then democrats pushed back. who pushed first. this has been building for a long time what everyone is calling for right now to a large extent. it s not always been a good thing. filibuster was used to stop the recklessness of the 70s. i don t think it s always
bringing people together. the case can be made that maybe the party that controls congress and voters can punish them by pushing them out of office, instead of what we have now which is in a constant gridlock. we re going to see where this one goes, how far it goes. when we come back, the president just gave an interview with his favorite newspaper, the new york times. at blue apron, we re building a better food system.
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the country and the world. it s one of the big stories of the time. asked if he thinks susan rice committed a crime. the president answered do i think? yes, i think. we have the president of the united states to say he thinks someone has committed a crime when that president of the united states and his team are being looked at by the fbi, by the senate intelligence committee. by the house intelligence committee. some people s back and forth, the finger pointing. this is a big deal. there are two reasons, one, in the campaign, it s worrisome when the president threatens to jail his political opponents. whether hillary clinton before and now susan rice. that s not what we do in america. and you ask the president of the united states to weigh in on what the doj can do. usually, obama was always aware of not saying yes, someone committed a crime or no, they
didn t. it s very unusual to see that. a real break with norm is important. he dines to say, michael, the president, to bolster his claim but pledge at the right time? this is not exactly president obama manipulating the microwave inside trump tower. but it is a legitimate distraction for him. i can tell you that the news on susan rice yesterday, inside the white house, they are asking additional questions about what other decisions they made inside the white house that should have been made. and if, if, if, if, if, if obama administration officials were improperly unmasking these names or improperly spreading this around they should be held accountable for that. just as if the president s team colluded in any way with the kremlin, they should be held accountable but aren t they supposed to say let s wait for the facts and this responsible
party is the president of the united states. i think it s going to be the biggest story. do think? yes, i think a crime. this is turning into a spectacle of some type of allegations. and it takes one step further with what happened on twitter a few weeks ago which is the president saying without substantiation that he thought president obama had tapped him. which it turns out would not be legal and therefore would be a crime. this is more directly saying yeah, i think someone who hasn t actually been charged. i want to sneak this in. mr. trump criticized media including the new york times for failing to cover the rofrgs. sick naling out fox news and bill o reilly for praise. and then he went on to say bill o reilly, advertisers and the heat. i think he s a person i know well, he is a good person. i didn t think anyone would want that one. it s a well, from that
statement, it came from the very serious and weighing in on the president doesn t way in on random legal issues. that s a strange one, too. and he doesn t say these are serious allegations, but i ve known him for a long time. there s a way to strike a balance as president. he does black and white. he didn t do gray. everybody, thank you for joining us. just moments away from a live news conference with president trump and king abdullah of jordan. wolf blitzer in the chair, after a quick break. it s nice to remove artificial ingredients. kind never had to. we ve used real ingredients, whole nuts, and natural flavors from the very beginning. give kind a try. does your makeup remover every kiss-proof,ff? cry-proof, stay-proof look? neutrogena® makeup remover does. it erases 99% of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. need any more proof than that? neutrogena.

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trump officials concealing conversations with russian spies. why are all these guys doing this, are they doing it to protect themselves or to protect trump? i have a feeling that jared is going to do a great job. he is going to do a great job. well, up and at them on saturday morning. i am christi paul. victor blackwell. new reporting in the washington post, that jared kushner proposed setting up a secret means of communicating with the kremlin. post reports requests came from intercepts of conversations between the russian ambassador to the united states and moscow. but three people with knowledge of the discussion tell new york times that the line was meant to be used to discuss strategy in syria and on policy issues. the post reports he made a proposal to kislyak during a
december meeting at trump tower to use russian diplomatic facilities to shield preinauguration discussions, according to u.s. officials. here s what the washington post reporter that broke the story is telling cnn. basically you had a meeting in new york, kislyak comes up to see jared kushner and to see mike flynn. jared is the one that sets up the meeting, flynn is invited a few days later. during that discussion according to dislee kislyak s account, yo jared kushner proposing the idea of having a secure, private communications channel and jared proposes doing so at a russian facility, specifically the russian embassy in washington, which kislyak according to reporting home, he was taken aback by that. he thought that was a bizarre suggestion. the white house has not commented on the report from the post. at this point kushner is not a target of the probe.
no allegations of wrongdoing. want to be clear about that. all of this as president trump s overseas trip draws to a close today. he spent this morning attending a g7 round table. in a few hours will speak to u.s. troops at an air ba base in cicely. the on-going investigation hanging over the white house as he returns. cnn correspondent jeff zeleny live in cicely. what are you hearing about the headlines we re seeing here in the u.s.? reporter: christi, there s no question that the headlines you re seeing in the u.s. are indeed reverberating here. i am told the president has been following it moment by moment, every incremental detail. it is stacking up and waiting for him when he returns to washington. he is having meetings as you said this morning. he is going through the motions here. one thing about the russia investigation, his reluctance to talk about the country at all
the russians would disclose how they have secret communications to the president s senior adviser, and that the fbi would not see kushner or whomever the designee was to have the conversations may expose some of that naivity. lynn sweet, thank you. we will continue the conversation through the day. thank you, victor. more breaking news to talk about. new revelations that fired fbi director james comey acted on russian intel he knew to be false while investigating hillary clinton s e-mail during the 2016 campaign. cnn chief political correspondent dana bash has details. reporter: victor, christi, cnn learned that then fbi director james comey knew a critical piece of information related to the hillary clinton e-mail investigation was fake, but felt he needed to take action anyway because he was concerned that if the information became public, it
official in classified briefings, comey told lawmakers he was afraid that the information would, quote, drop and undermine the investigation, but comey didn t tell lawmakers he doubted the accuracy of the information, even in a classified setting a few months ago. according to sources close to comey, the fbi director felt validity of the information didn t matter because if it became public, they had no way to discredit it without burning sources and methods. think about the chain of events all of this helps fend off. when comey had a press conference in july, 2016 announcing no charges against clinton, he took an extraordinary and many say inappropriate step of calling her extremely careless. clinton aides are convinced her reputation was damaged with voters and she never recovered. that probably wouldn t have happened without russian interference. also, talking to many officials on capitol hill and elsewhere, dissemination of fake information is still a major
issue. multiple sources tell us russia is trying to spread false information to cloud and confuse on-going investigations. victor, christi? again, thank you so much. three big headlines this morning. all three involving russia. we will take you live to moscow and see what their reaction is this morning. also, two men have been stabbed to death after trying to stop an anti-muslim rant. you ll see the cell phone video recorded in the aftermath. also we know so many of you are hitting the road for memorial day holiday weekend. the trump administration is considering tightening security in the skies. how new regulations regarding that electronics ban may effect what happens in the next few days. stay close.
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this morning, russia is watching headlines regarding president trump s son-in-law and senior adviser. jared kushner contacts with russian ambassador sergei kislyak. the washington post is reporting kushner wanted to establish a secret means of communication with the kremlin. cnn clare sebastian is live from moscow this hour. what are you hearing from russian leaders there? reporter: well, christi, reemphasize that political chaos in washington. the russian foreign ministry spoke this morning, calling the report by the washington post mccarthyism or simply internal political squabbles. we followed up with a question on whether the foreign minister was aware jared kushner had made this request for secret communication channel, secure communication channel as reported by the post. we have seen that the ministry
was since the original report came from an intercept of communications between the russian ambassador and superiors in moscow, she would not be drown on that. we re seeing increasing rhetoric in moscow as stream of russian related news comes out of washington. the same foreign ministry spokesperson warning that the u.s. media should stop spreading lies about the russian ambassador to the u.s. had from president putin the previous week called allegations that president trump had revealed classified intel to russian officials in the oval office, called that political schizophrenia. and all the while, the russians are closely watching to see any coherent strategy or policy as relates to russia come out of washington. we know president trump is wrapping up his first overseas trip at the g7, they ll be closely watching that for any comments as relates to russia,
be it syria, ukraine, or the issue of sanctions. while they continue to dismiss reports of this, they re watching for how the politics and policy behind the situation will develop. no doubt. clare sebastian, thank you so much. lynwood michael cane, son of nominee tim kaine is facing several misdemeanor charges, charged with fleeing on foot, concealing identity in a public place, obstructing the legal process interfering with a peace officer. the obstruction charge carries possible sentence up to a year in prison and fine as much as $3,000. this all comes out of his arrest in march after an incident at a pro-trump rally. some in the group used smoke bombs and mays. police said they were trooid trying to run, caught a block away. now declining to press charges against kaine and others.
st. paul charge came yesterday following investigation. former u.s. national security adviser, zbigniew brzezinski, has died. served under jimmy carter during the iran hostage crisis. president carter described brzezinski as a superb public servant. was dedicated and royal and remained a close adviser to my work at carter center. i will miss her. his daughter calls him the most inspiring, loving father a girl could have. he was 89 years old. thoughts and prayers go out to mika. president trump wrapping up his first international trip abroad, will return to a white house many say is in crisis. can he right the ship and stay focused? the newest challenges facing his administration are next. and world leaders team up to
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former national security adviser michael flynn and russian ambassador sergei kislyak. listen to what cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem told us this could mean last hour. this is not a back channel as people in law enforcement and national security came to sort of understand back channel. back channel is actually a president or president-elect uses the resources of government to sort of secretly start a communication with a country, let s say cuba or burma to begin to lay ground work for more public diplomacy. this is jared going rogue. but the idea the russians were going to open up their own apparatus, intelligence apparatus to a 30 something son-in-law of a president-elect is just it so defies any sort of good explanation, that the best explanation for kushner at this stage is he is incredibly
naive. the fbi investigation into president trump s russia ties has been inching closer to the white house as you know. at this point, kushner is not a target of the probe. there are no allegations that he committed any wrongdoing, want to be very clear about that. but the latest report could serve as yet another distraction as the president meets with world leaders at the g7 summit in italy. last hour sat down for a working lunch, pictures from that. before the president heads back to the u.s., he will speak to american soldiers stationed nearby later today. cnn international editor nic robertson is in cicely. any reaction to reporting on jared kushner from the post and times? reporter: as you know, president trump isn t giving a press conference here, his national security adviser did give an on the record briefing, hr mcmaster when he was asked about jared kushner s connections with the russian
ambassador in washington, he declined to answer that. he said we are here at the g7, focusing on that. indeed shut down that question. we know, however, that reuters is reporting from their sources which are seven former and current u.s. officials that they say between april last year and november last year that jared kushner had undisclosed contacts, yes, undisclosed contacts with the russian ambassador, sergei kislyak in washington that included at least two phone calls. his lawyer has said, jamie gorelick, said that at this time he had thousands of communications with many, many different people at that particular time. again, reuters is concluding this new round of reporting that this doesn t indicate kushner has done anything wrong at this stage, it is another detail layering upon information that
the washington post has already published. as i say from here, hr mcmaster shutting down a question on that last night. same thing from gary kohn. nic robertson interest sit lee. thanks very much. world leaders looking for change on the climate change accord. the president tweeted about the issue. we will talk about that. and two men stabbed to death trying to stop an anti-muslim ranl rant. what the suspect yelled at officers when they tracked him down. you ll see the video. [ dinosaur roars ] onboard cameras and radar can detect danger all around you. driver assist systems can pull you back into your lane, if drifting. bye chief. bye bobby. and will even help you brake, if necessary. it makes driving less of a production. lease the gle 350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.
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airports. this statement was released from the airline. we apologize to customers facing delays following an it outage. we are working to resolve the problem quickly as possible. all flights grounded out of london. more information as it develops. happy travels to you. we re going to cancel the paris climate agreement and stop, unbelievable, and stop all payments of the united states tax dollars to u.n. global warming programs. that was then candidate trump, determined during the campaign. one of several times he said he would can sell the paris climate agreement. after pressure from world leaders at the g7 summit, aides say the president is, this is a quote, evolving on climate change. moments ago, minutes ago, the president tweeted i will make final decision on the paris accord next week.
this comes after several announcements of decision that have been delayed. really no matter what decision he makes, it is likely to further divide this administration that s already dealing with so many issues. steven moore, cnn senior economist and economics analyst and former economic adviser to the trump campaign, and elizabeth colbert, author of sixth extinction in natural history. both with us this morning. steve, i want to start with you. you advised that the president should withdraw from the agreement. are you confident that he will, that the evolving we re hearing from aides? i hope he keeps his promise. you played that clip of what he said on the campaign trail. heard him say it dozens of times when i traveled with him. i think it is an important promise to keep. the american people want jobs first, high wages, want to rebuild the economy. this is a climate change deal. we have done some analysis at
the heritage foundation that finds it would dramatically increase cost of energy in america. american consumers and families would pay thousands a year more for electricity prices. it would put at risk potentially millions of jobs. we become an energy powerhouse with respect to shale oil and gas, don t want those jobs at risk. if this is going to hurt jobs, then no, we should not do this deal. i think the american people agree with that. elizabeth, something you wrote for the new yorker not too long ago, you wrote that this administration has already passed up the chance to make the right decision on paris. the only choices that remain are different shades of wrong. explain. well, the administration has already taken steps to roll back some of the changes of the obama administration put in place. greater efficiency standards for cars that were part of the
u.s. s commitments under paris. it will be difficult for the u.s. to meet obligations under paris, even if it stays in the agreement, which i think would be a good idea, and i have to beg to differ in that it would cost a lot of jobs, in fact the president s own economic adviser apparently on the plane back from cicely made the same point, we are already in an energy transition now. transition to natural gas is part of the paris accord. let me come to you with the question about jobs. i want to play what the director of the office of management and budget nick mulvaney said a few months ago about the priorities of this administration. let s watch. regarding the question as to climate change, i think the president was straightforward, we re not spending money on that any more. we consider that to be a waste of your money to go out and do that. that s a specific tie to his campaign. and the white house set up
this dichotomy between policies relating to climate and job growth. there are clean energy jobs and that sector is growing, is it not? is that to me? that s to you, steven. on the jobs being created, they re in fossil fuel industry, we re seeing massive increases of people working in oil and gas industry. by the way, donald trump fulfilled one of his promises where he said he would rebuild the coal industry in america. we have seen 45,000 increased jobs since donald trump took office. i traveled around to a lot of coal towns in america that were decimated by obama s regulations that just destroyed communities and families. this is the kind of cost that we would see throughout the economy with this kind of climate change fan at sichl that the left is propagating on america. you look at the opinion polls, it is clear. top two concerns of americans are jobs and the economy and
wages. climate change is somewhere around 20, 25 on the list of what people are concerned about. we shouldn t pay $100 billion, there s essentially a payment america has to make of $100 billion. can you think of how many jobs we could create with $100 billion? elizabeth, i didn t get an answer from steven on the clean energy jobs. i did see, we put on the screen to be fair the numbers of the mining industry, 31,000 since inauguration, about 46,000 since the election. elizabeth, to you, what do you make of that job growth in the mining sector and what s your degree of confidence that the president will withdraw or stay in the paris accord? look, everyone agrees, this includes high level members of executives in the fossil fuel industry that we need a
transition to clean energy and coal is the energy of the past, and renewable is the energy of the future. if we want to prop up jobs, that s precisely what the trump administration vowed not to do, to sort of go backwards. we want to go forwards and propping up coal is just according to all economic analyses the wrong way to go. in terms of what the trump administration is going to do, that is anybody s guess. they have very mixed signals on that. can i say one quick thing. we have to wrap it there. there s a resolution. let the senate ratify this as a treaty. thank you both. police say two men have been stabbed to death after trying to stop an anti-muslim rant. next as public rants seem to be on the rise, one group says the president could help stop them.
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again, it happened so fast. it looked like every punch that i saw was actually a stab. chase robertson thought he was watching a fist fight, but in fact the witness saw two men getting stabbed to death on a commuter train in portland, oregon. this happened after they tried to confront a passenger who was yelling anti-muslim slurs at two other passengers. the suspect, 35-year-old jeremy joseph christian, is facing two charges of aggravated murder and several other charges this morning. police say he may have been targeting two young women, one wearing a hi jab, when several tried to intervene and they were stabbed. one man died at the scene, the other died at the hospital. a third man was also stabbed after he tried to help.
he is expected to survive. the suspect was caught after he left the train and yelled at officers to shoot him. police say they re considering his remarks to be hate speech. adrian hooper is with us now. he is with the national communications director for council on american islamic relations. mr. hooper, we appreciate you being here. thank you. what is your reaction, first of all, to this? i think this is just representative unfortunately of the overall rise in bigotry in our nation within the last months and a year, particularly during the presidential campaign and since the election in november. we ve seen minorities increasing increasing increasingly targeted with violence, american muslims targeted, mosques targeted, african americans, refugees,
immigrants, overall rise in bigotry unfortunately provoked to a large degree by president trump s rhetoric, his appointments, his policy proposals, these things have led to an atmosphere in our society in which it seems to be acceptable to target minorities. mr. hooper, what would you say to the president if you could sit down with him? do you think he could help alleviate some of these problems here? yes. he needs to speak out directly and forcefully against this rising tide of bigotry. when the person at the top sets the tone either in a negative or positive way, it makes a difference, and he really needs to speak out against particularly anti-muslim bigotry as we saw in this case. so often you see american muslim
women who wear head scarves or islamic attire targeted in this way. it wasn t just muslims that were targeted, this person was apparently ranting about different groups as well. and attacked people that tried to intervene to help. we re seeing more minority groups being targeted and particularly american muslims at this time when the president and his administration is really focusing on islam and muslims. ibrahim hooper with council on american-islamic relations. thank you for sharing perspective with us this morning. we appreciate it. sort of a physical violence, maybe you ve seen videos on commuter train or airport or grocery store, more and more of these racist rants seem to be happening in public. not only in public, but then recorded on smart phones and
uploaded online. you might be wondering what s driving this, and could in some way it spark a positive change? here is polo sandoval. reporter: a series of racist rants in public. and on camera. a woman in a virginia sprint store hurled a racial slur at a fellow customer. in arkansas. i said excuse me. reporter: go back to mexico is what this walmart shopper told another. we re in america. reporter: she then fired the n word at a woman looking to interject. stop being ignorant. reporter: then what orlando resident hector torres caught on his phone at the airport last week. shut up. shut up! that is sad. glad to document it.
reporter: he was speaking spanish to his puerto rican mother on the phone when things got heated. explain. talking to that stupid spanish [bleep], english speaking american. reporter: racist rants aren t new says the director of institute for the study of race and difference at emory university. these videos remind us that race has been a constant, persistent problem in the united states. reporter: been a spike in the number of racist rants posted on social media, experts say. as technology becomes even more and more main streamed and more and more people are having smart phone devices and video capability, it is just going to be exploding more and more. reporter: recording these kinds of confrontations may empower people to expose the racism, says gillespie. there could also be a trump factor behind it all. people perhaps feel more embolden to express politically incorrect points of view as a result of president trump s
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11th, according to department of homeland security secretary john kelly. what i have learned in the last 120 days is this relentless attempt on the part of terrorists to blow up airplanes. ideally big airplanes with a lot of people. we are watching a number of very, very sophisticated advanced threats right now. reporter: travelers flying to the united states from ten airports in eight muslim majority countries are already under a laptop ban, meaning electronics larger than a cell phone are not allowed in the cabin of the plane over fears they may be used to detonate or conceal explosives. the ban is expected to expand to more countries soon. this heightened language without any policy changes leaves the american public at a disadvantage. that kind of language makes the american public do one of two things. freak out or tune out. neither is a good place to be. reporter: travelers at ten
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