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well this is where it gets rather interesting because, as you said, jon, during the attack in kenya people who said they were members of al-shabaab, the group that claimed responsibility for the attack, issued lists of names of those taking part on twitter. but then a few hours later, other people were saying, these names were wrong. so that begs the question, was this a deliberate ploy to mislead the security authorities trying to tackle this terrorist event, or was this a legitimate attempt to, to glorify those taking part? and of course, for the intelligence officials examining what precisely happened in kenya, this makes it all the more difficult to get to the bottom of who is behind the attack. jon: and war al-awlaki was said to be the first islamic radical who really utilized the ....
Fact that he s convinced the grassroots that this was possible, and it absolutely was never possible. it s going to, as i said, require more votes, votes that the party doesn t have right now in congress to overturn a presidential veto, and until they do that, there s no defunding obamacare. jon: all right. a.b. stoddard from the hill, thank you. thank you. jenna: an interesting look at that. well, it s being called the greatest sports comeback ever, although some red sox fans, as we know, are disagreeing with that. oracle team usa s stunning come-from-behind victory to keep america s cup here where it longs. our sports caster, jim gray, on where this feat really stands. very pretty to see. we ll talk to jim about it. also, what happened at a packed kenyan mall possibly with americans involved raising concerns that a similar attack could happen here on american soil. right before the holidays, here we are. how big is the threat here in ....
Has since told al jazeera the mall attack was the work of al qaeda, not al shabaab. more on that in a second. president kenyatta said one of his nephews was in the mall and killed in the attack. the chief of the kenyan defense forces said the terrorists are clearly a multinational collection from all over the world. the fbi is looking into reports that americans were among the attackers. the new york times photographer tyler hicks happened to be nearby the mall when the siege began. he entered the mall along with police officers and captured these stunning images. once i got inside the mall, i could see how tense everyone was, the army and police, how carefully they were moving. they were dashing across open areas, taking extreme care with their cover. it seemed kind of like anywhere you looked there would be another body. people were still hiding in shops. and as the police and the army were moving through, they would either discover people or they would sense that help had arrive ....
Store, talking to people, asking questions, shooting, screams, and then it would stop for a while. then they would go to another store. another eyewitness, a software engineer who was in the parking lot with his two daughters said they were throwing grenades like maize to chickens. he and his daughter survived. at last count, at least 62 people have died in the attack, mostly kenyans along with foreigners from britain, france, australia, canada and india. at one point, terrorists started a fire in the mall, which according to security forces, was meant as a diversion. a reported 175 people were wounded in a siege that entered its third day today. at least three assailants have been killed by security forces with at least ten suspects arrested. the attackers also took hostages as the standoff proceeded. we have done search of the building and we can confirm that the hostages, almost all of them have been evacuated. the kenyan foreign minister ....
Then you had the bombing at the world cup in 2010 in uganda, an american citizen was killed in that as well as a number of ugandans. and i think that, you know, if you look at the past two years, kenya has been deeply involved with somali politics, funding warlords. i traveled with a kenyan-backed warlord who had brand new military equipment given to him in the summer of 2011, and then kenya staged an invasion of parts of southern somalia. and i think al shabaab has seized on this idea that kenya is a puppet or a proxy for the u.s., and that s really the message that they ve propagandized. what does it say about the state of al qaeda or global jihadis in 2013 that this attack happened, that it s coming from possibly somalia? it seems to me like it s the situation which we smash one or disrupt one network and they seem to pop up somewhere else. right. something interesting is that when i was last in somalia in the summer of 2011, the head of al qaeda in east africa was killed in mog ....