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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191125 04:23:00

In december 2015, netflix released making a murderer and it ignited a bonfire over the convictions of avery and dassey. now many viewers believe the claims avery had been making all along, that he was framed by law enforcement. who would want to set you up in something like this? the only thing i can think of it manitowoc county with the money, so they wouldn t have to pay nothing out. did they plant evidence? sure they did. kim is avery s cousin. she said she predicted something bad might happen to him after he was exonerated in the rape case. remember, he had recently filed a lawsuit against his local sheriff s department for his wrongful conviction. i did tell him, manitowoc wasn t done with him. why did you think they weren t done with him? something told me they weren t going to hand steve avery $36 million or any kind of money, that they were going to ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191125 04:28:00

Lieutenant james lenk and andrew colburn of the manitowoc sheriff s department. turned out, they had just been deposed in avery s lawsuit. well, they were deposed, that we later found out. do you think that maybe just them by nature, being with manitowoc that maybe they haven t have been in there at all, just to avoid all of this speculation? it s easy to arm chair quarterback and second guess. i think we would have done that maybe if we had the resources. but you re talking about a small, rural county, being assisted by another smaller rural county. you need resources. steven avery says these guys had it out for me. that whole department was angry at me. this was the perfect opportunity for them to have access to my trailer, plant the key. i never absolutely saw that. never saw that from anyone in manitowoc county. fassbender says he believes a conspiracy to frame avery would have been virtually impossible to carry out. i could go on and on about the planting defense and ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191125 04:05:00

they found teresa s vehicle on the avery yard. reporter: and then, he hustled over to this special land in manitowoc county. had you heard his name before? only through the media. reporter: steven avery was a big story. but 18 years later, dna evidence exonerated him and he was freed. he was welcomed back with open arms. were you aware he had filed the lawsuit against the local sheriff s department? i heard that. reporter: avery was hoping winning the lawsuit could help him get back on his feet. he had an opportunity to make something of his life. it appeared he was headed in that direction. reporter: now, two years after the conviction, he was back in the news and not in a ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190610:04:27:00

Vial. and he notes that a nurse was prepared to testify she had made that hole in the vial as part of her usual routine when she drew blood from avery. so the fact that there was a hole in the top of the vial is normal. and regarding teresa s car key, not found until the seventh search of avery s trailer why was that key missed during the other searches? primarily because of where it was located in a small bookcase that wasn t searched. and if it was, it was just kind of looked at. why not do the thorough search earlier? i guess part of it is because we didn t lock and load on steven avery. we went in there, did that first search, but we had 12 more buildings and four more residences to search. so we had a lot to do. still, it wasn t just when the key was found that has avery supporters skeptical. it s who found it. these two men. lieutenant james lenk and andrew colburn of the manitowoc ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190610:04:28:00

Sheriff s department. it turned out they had just been deposed in avery s lawsuit. well, they were deposed, that we later found out. do you think that maybe just them by nature, being with manitowoc that maybe they shouldn t have been in there at all, just to avoid all of this speculation? it s easy to arm chair quarterback and second guess. i think we would have done that maybe if we had the resources. but you re talking about a small, rural county, being assisted by another smaller rural county. you need resources. steven avery says these guys had it out for me. that whole department was angry at me. this was the perfect opportunity for them to have access to my trailer, plant the key. i never absolutely saw that. never saw that from anyone in manitowoc county. fassbender says he believes a conspiracy to frame avery would have been virtually impossible to carry out. i could go on and on about the planting defense and how absurd it is, with the multiple ....

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