it s time to call out wikileaks for what it is. a non-state hostile intelligence service often embedded by hosti hostile like shall russia. the gru used wikileaks to release vixx timz that the gru obtained through cyber operations against the democratic national committee. and the report also found that russia s primary propaganda outlet r.t. has actively collaborated with wikileaks. welcome back to the 11th hour. that there was the new cia director mike pompeo with some strong words about wikileaks and sounding a bit different than his boss did on that same topic when he was still a candidate. russia, if you re listening, i hope you re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. all you have to do is take a look at wikileaks. this just came out, this just came out. wikileaks, i love wikileaks. [cheering and applauding] amazing how nothing is secret toy enou talk about the internet. wikileaks, wikileaks, they ve got to start talking about wikileaks. the wonder of wikileaks. we love wikileaks, boy, they have really wikileaks. they have wikileaks. wikileaks. that came out on wikileaks. also tonight on the russia front, the british newspaper the guardian is reporting it was british spies who told u.s. intelligence officials about contacts between donald trump s campaign team and russian intelligence operatives. that started in late 2015. this all comes on the heels of the news that former trump campaign chairman paul manafort will be registering with the justice department as a foreign agent. that is apparently linked to work he did for pro-russian politicians in ukraine. thankfully, our panel remains with us tonight. robert costa, catherine lucy, rick stengel. robert costa, on wikileaks, it sounds so much like the narrative your newspaper has a headline wondering if trump has become a conventional republican. this move to make him more establishment, more mainstream even if it s his the people he picked out who are doing it. it is such a contrast we re watching in the early months of this presidency, compared to the trump we saw on the campaign trail who rev he willed in in l intelligence information, sometimes private information revealed by wikileaks. this was an organization that was looked down upon by the u.s. government, was seen as operating in a negative way. revealing too much information that was inappropriate. perhaps even classified. and now as president he s running the federal government and he s in a different position with his officials striking a different tone. catherine, when you hear that he brought no members of his senior staff with him to florida, and we have a long weekend here, and you see what you see going on in the west wing, what do you think is going on inside? well, obviously he s down there and his staff we assume will continue working over the weekend. obviously he can be in touch with folks as he needs to be. but i d be surprised if we don t hear from him some over the weekend, just knowing the president and knowing how he likes to communicate directly with folks over twitter. so, it s certainly likely that we ll be hearing from him more. and rick stengel, what do you make of all of this? wikileaks and russia kind of got normalized in that weird period of months we have just lived through, normalizing them back again, making sure people see them as arms of whatever organization or states they re arms of. that s going to take some doing. well, and i have to say, i thought it was bold and strong what the cia director said about wikileaks. i could not agree more. they re a dangerous transgressive organization that has been in cahoots with russia. president trump s embrace of them is something which is discouraging and sad, to use his term. now that i ve been in government, i really see the damage that they ve done. the most recent release affected an area that i worked with about the migration of isis off of nonencrypted platforms to encrypted platforms and the revelations about what we know about how to get inside encrypted platforms. very, very, very damaging information. how do you conduct state craft in the era of wikileaks? you can t. and the other thing, brian, just to also call folks out, i mean, mainstream news organizations also cooperated with wikileaks during the different revolutions. i never did that. i did interview julian assange. the the new york times, other publications did printed stories based on what his stolen illegal information. robert costa, it s been what, 84 days. i don t think even the most generous reading of this administration would be anything to fear, an establishment administration, an establishment president or presidency. but what would your, what would your lead be if you had to sum it up tonight, if it was the last piece you were going to write for a while, if we were going to time capsule this and freeze it in time, what kind of presidency is this as of day 84? i could see it right now, brian, a defiant white house, a skittish republican party. this is a white house that has the same bravado as the president and the sources there, as you would expect, are saying that kind of thing. but this is a republican party on capitol hill that i cover closely that s nervous. they look ahead to 2018. this close race in kansas this past week for special house election, special house election coming up in georgia next tuesday where the democrats ahead. they say to themselves, the major thing that s happened on capitol hill with trump is neil gorsuch being confirmed for the supreme court, but no major legislation, no major legislation has come through. i wonder as i look at the president s polls, can this be sustained, can the party keep its majorities? 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[chittering] with rabies. welcome back to the 11th hour. joining our conversation live tonight is congressman john ge ramen dia, a democrat from california, who represents a district between san francisco and sacramento, and importantly for tormz of our conversation tonight sits on the house armed services committee. congressman, let s begin. i ve got to take these in terms of importance in north korea. sure. which represents a real and present, it seems to me, danger to life here in this country and in other places. the last associated press breaking news is, north korea s vice foreign minister says president trump is, quote, making trouble with, quote, aggressive tweets. what do you make of this situation and how the united states should proceed? it is extremely dangerous, extremely dangerous. north korea is not just another country. north korea has one of the largest armys in the world. they are prepared for war, have been as is south korea, as is the united states. got to be really, really careful here about what you say, where you re deploying forces because you don t know how north korea is going to respond. they may very well do a nuclear thanks for loading, sweetie. .oh, burnt-on gravy? .gotta rinse that. nope. no way. nada. really? dish issues? throw it all in. new cascade platinum powers through. even burnt-on gravy. nice. cascade. as a fiscal conservative, what is your position on all the weekend trips the president makes to mar-a-lago in with regard to presidents and what they do on the weekend, i m not going to criticize presidents. [ booing ] a packed and rowdy town hall in arizona tonight. that was republican senator jeff flake. he is up for reelection next year and is considered to be a vulnerable gop seat. robert, catherine and rick remain with us. robert costa, i ve always wondered, people running for office want the public to come too big events, to town hall events, come out and help them win election and be part of the crowd. why is it when they get in office they re not all that interested, many of them, won t do what senator flake is doing tonight? they won t have town hall meetings? and when they do, too many of them complain about organized agitators shutting it down. it s a great point. as a reporter, there is nothing better sometimes than covering a town hall meeting. but so often these lawmakers today are having teletown hall meetings. you don t get to see them in the flesh to see them interact with constituents. this flake town hall, brian, is fascinating because if there is ansenator who irked the president during the campaign, itas senator flake of arizona. my reporting tells me that the president would often complain about senator flake even to his face when he would visit the capital during the campaign. and now flake finds himself in a way having to defend the trump agenda, the trump administration, even though he s not a full-throated supporter. catherine, in the modern era, you think of a guy like jerry ford, came from the house of representatives where he was a giant representing his district out in grand rapids. and so many of his thoughts and deeds every day were kind of party minded. he thought like a legislator and a local party guy. there is none of that now. what can donald trump start giving these gop men and women to run on and defend their seats with? that s a good question and it s complicated because of course donald trump is not a traditional republican, even though obviously he won the republican nomination and went on to run with all these members. so, some of them have to make different choices about whether they run on what the white house is doing, whether they try and go it alone. and it depends a lot i mean, a lot of these races do vary by district, but obviously a mid-term election can be a referendum of the president and the work of the president and congress. and, so, i think we re going to really see how, how voters feel about that. rick stengel, if you sent president trump out to campaign for folks, when air force one touches down, is that these days a help or a hindrance, an asset or a liability? i suspect it s a liable. i ve actually always thought when presidents come and campaign in local districts and arrive on air force one, they have these gigantic motorcades that snarl towns for miles, i ve always thought this imperial presidency is not something the american people like. and actually looking at senator flake s town hall, these some of these guys have to triangulate now between trump and conservative republicans. and he s in a perfect example of it. that is a really, really tricky situation. it s not just between republicans and democrats now because trump is not a typical republican as we ve all been saying. and the people who support him come from, you know, all different kinds of backgrounds. it s really tricky. robert, as you look back at it, did the speaker of the house really take a political bullet in not allowing that health care measure with 17% popularity, even before the rewrite, come up for an actual vote? because the members who did stick their necks out and say, i ll support it, are catching all kinds of flack back home. that s so true. and the speaker knew the political dynamic would be disastrous potentially for some of his members. whenever a bill is suspected to fail on the floor, as a congressional reporter i can tell you a lot of people start just pulling away from the bill, the support moves away. and ryan knew that and the speaker said, i don t want people to be part of supporting the bill that s likely to fall apart in the senate or never even pass the house. so, he asked the white house to pull the legislation. but republicans are still getting heat about the affordable care act because the president keeps trying to revive it so it s an active issue, looking far ahead to 2018. please note something very important as we look at the live pictures from mesa, arizona. people are behaving themselves. they are being civil and polite. yes, there was a chicken suit in the front row, but they ve clearly been given green pieces of paper to identify themselves if they have a question. they re showing there is our friend the chicken on the front row. they re showing better behavior candidly than they see out of washington in a lot of people. senator jeff flake hopg to get reelected there in arizona. great thanks to our thursday night panel, robert costa, catherine lucy, rick stengel, thank you all for coming and for sharing your work with us. when the 11th hour continues, the surprising number, the percentage of the trump presidency spent thus far at his florida resort. last thing before we go here tonight, president donald trump arrived in palm beach, florida where he will spend the easter weekend at his resort mar-a-lago. this is the president s seventh weekend of his 84 days in office. this means by the time president trump is wheels up, leaving mar-a-lago on sunday, he will have spent 28% of his term at his florida resort, and that includes the time spent traveling to and from his florida resort. by one estimate, these trips are costing taxpayers 3 million bucks a throw, and not helping the optics of all of it was the second blue and white air force jet today. though smaller than air force one, arriving at the same time and carrying the first lady to florida from new york where she lives with their son barron.
including the staff the the congressional black caucus, and staff throughout various committees. we ve used this work period as an opportunity to invite staffers from both sides of the aisle to come to the white house and discuss shared priorities and find common ground on the way forward. and we re not just reaching out to capitol hill. we have actively engaged with key leaders and policy makers around the country. it s critical to gather information from states and from people throughout the country rather than just leaders in washington. so to discuss specific action he can take. they leaders, many of whom represent some of the country s largest manufacturers, cabinet members and key aides of the president s staff. the working group will engage in a deep-dive conversation on the attendees specific areas of expertise. topics of discussion include deregulation, tax and trade, and infrastructu infrastructure. after the gripes conclude their discussion, the president s it is staff will compile the feedback and for a listening session on some of their recommendations. as you can tell by the structure of the meeting, the president is expecting these real creating a dynamic and booming economy that works for all americans. this tibets to be at the top of his domestic policy agenda. as a successful businessman, the president knows if we re going to get the country back to work, we need to hear directly from sxwrob creators, what is holding them back and where appropriate take tips to remove the behalfiers. the in a key economic and economy economic indicators are showing it s working. ceo and confidence are up, and jan wear numbers were strong. the meetings on thursday will continue to build on that momentum. with that, i m glad to take some questions. steve holland? steve is not here. jeff mason against it then. can you give us an update on the administration s plans with regard to transgender bathrooms again in schools? and can you confirm there has been disgreat between secretary devos and the attorney general? why expect further guidance to come out on that today. the president, as i said yesterday, is a firm believer in states rights. when you look at the guidance issued under the obama to the best of my knowledge that was he stalled, and several legal reasons and several procedure renals, both who jointly issued that guidance are now working together again under a trump administration. they have been reviewing the guide krantz that was signed and i think there s several he areas president had very specific goals to enact that he promised the american people, you want to make sure the person fulfilling that job is actually committed to the agenda and vision the president set forth and promised the american people. so there is that s something we re always going to be making smur is in alignment. is the approval process in some what slowing down the appointment of crucial staff. not at all. when you like across where we are we re doing very very well with getting all of these positions filled. i think once in a while you might hear one or two people, but overall generally speaking, i mentioned how much of the beachhead teams we had and those members appointed had 120 days they were there to a i lieu it to make sure a and that s what s happening, but make no mistakes. we were ahead of the curve on the beachhead teams, very clear with the landing teams, it s been a methodical process than seen from top to bottom through, and i think we re doing a phenomenal job. marta? which marta? oh, luck where me. reporter: i have a [ laughter ] reporter: the president in the roosevelt room just said, among other things that the tax plan is nearly finalized but can t be submitted until the health car plan statutorily what i wanted to clarify, is the white house doing a health care proposal? or was he talking about congress and the white house? obviously there s two vehicles, requisition the bloom better answer, the fy17 reconciliation was never completed, because the budget wasn t finalized in the last congress. i think we want to look at the opportunities and make sure and then you could utilize the 2018 reconciliation to do tax reform. again, that s not prescriptive, but as far as why the president is saying it that way is because we ve got that option available to us right now. i think the president is committed to making sure that the promise that he made to the american people to repeal and replace obamacare continues to be first and foremost, and then his tax plan, but it s not a we can walk and chew gum kind of thing. we can continue to work with the leadership in both houses. reporter: just the bloom birk the time line, there is things that will happen then, there will be a budget plan that you guys are going to present on march 13th-ish? ish. this is where i got lost. something from him and something from them and then a plan afterwards? look, when we re really to announce i think you have obamacare, the budget, tax reform, a very busy march and april for us, and we continue to work with congress to make sure that it s implemented. noah beerman. he had a complete shutdown of muslims during the campaign. there were a lot of people who thought that was a very good proposal. can you explain his elf lice of backing down from that? and can you say whether he regrets using that rhetoric, since it ended up hurting the court case? again i go back to the merits of the case, and the order that gave him the authority to make that. u.s. code 1182 is very clear. the president was very clear in his executive order that these were countries that we didn t have the proper vetting for when it came to ensuring the safety of americans. that s what the executive order said. the authority is re clear, and i think you ll continue to see the president take the steps necessary to protect this country. that s why he s talking about fighting this on both fronts, making sure we keep evolving through the court system, and then looking forwards the next draft of the executive order that will continue to achieve the goal of protecting the american people. that s where we are, that s what the order says, and so i think we continue to feel confident that that s but it was crafted in a way that was very clear about the countries and was not focused on anything else but the vetting requirement we have to make sure that we know who is coming into this country and we re here not to do us any harm. talking about fulfilling his promising, can you explain why he decided to back down from that? i think he s made it clear, noah, from the beginning that this was a country-focused issue, and i don t see anything other than that with reference to that. debra saunders? reporter: is the oscars are for sunday night. will the president be watching? if there s a meryl streep kind of moment, how do you think he ll react? and why this has happened in other award ceremonies. why do you think this happening? why do i think what happens? actors. i have no idea. it s a free country. i think hollywood is known for rather being farther to the left, and i have to be honest, i think the president will be hosting the governors ball, mrs. trump looks forward to putting together a phenomenal event that will welcome our nation s governors to the capitol. i think that s where they ll be focused sunday night. so we ll go from there. reporter: the president has a big audience next tuesday in the joint and. does he have a sell of goals in mind? do you think we ll see specific policy roll-outs as part of that speech? i think i mentioned this yesterday. i think it s going to talk remind the american people what he s done already, and make sure that he explains to them not just because of a sense of accomplishment in moving the country forward, but because i think it s important for the american people to know he was an agent of change. he came here to get things done, and he didn t waste any time. he committed to keeping hi word, and then i think he ll lay out his vision. the problems that we face as a country, the violence in some of our inner cities, but also some of the solutions that we can act on and some of the partnerships we can create, it s obviously still a work in progress, but i think it will look forward to where he wants to take this country and talk about working with congress and other leaders throughout the country to get things done, but i think in the drafts i have seen so far, it is going to be a very strong blueprint of where he wants to take this country. in the past i think a lot of presidents or some, rather have gotten into detail spocks. i think you ll see him try to talk about politics, and what defining success is, what that goal means, but it s still a work in progress republican optimistic? yeah, i think this is an opportunity for him to lay out a very positive vision for the nation and really let america know where we can go and how we can get there, and the potential we have as a nation. anita? reporter: will he i know past presidents, including president obama, immediately hit the road but something like the state of the union address. to sell policies, since it s more of a vision i think there will be some travel. that s evolving right now. there s a lot of things that we re trying to look at, and i think as we look at the speech and some of the objectives and goals and vision that he s sharing, talk to him about potential places to go to highlight that, but i think you re going to see a fair amount of visits in the next few weeks to highlight some of the places that he wants to take it. reporter: i ve seen members of congress last we re, there s the legislative meeting today. it feels as if we haven t seen as many executive actions or executive orders. i know we have the one vetting coming out this week. are we in a different phase that he s sort of done the executive orders he wants to do? no, we have several in the pipeline, and part of it is just you know, these days are focused with these meetings and getting things done, and trying to plan ahead. so as we see fit, and as the implementation process of a lot of these goes through the process, we ll have future plenty more. fimplgts legislative emphasis now? it s both. part of this is we work through congress, aknit :we re talking about fundamental tax reform, something that happened since 1986. the repeat and replacement of obamacare, which is mammoth. i think part of it is those things take time. he has a joint address on tuesday. there s a lot of things that are happening, and therefore we need to kind of make sure that we appropriately use the schedule. but i can assure you if you ve missed executive orders, you will see a bunch. i know, i want to do make sure you knew. jonathan karl. at the present time referred to so-called sangry crowds? is he suggesting this is manufactured anger and this is not real anger and real thanks. i think there s a hybrid there. i think some people are clearly upset, but there is a bit of professional protester manufactured base in there. but obviously there are people that are upset, but i also think that when you look at some of these districts and some of these things, it is it is not a representation of a members district or an incident. it is a loud group, small group of people disrupting something, in many cases for media attention, no offense. just because they re loud doesn t necessarily mean there are many. i think in a lot of cases that s what you re seeing. reporter: not saying there s real anger i just said that. reporter: there s real concern i think that s a false narrative. i don t the president has been very clear, look, you have to look at what our health care system is right now. in so many counties around our nation we ve gone down to one provider. that s not choice, that s not access and in a lot of cases we re not taking medicare, the doctor you used to have haven t participating anymore and by the way, states like arizona, you have over 100% increase in premiums. many statesi double-digit. and i think that the idea that we have to remember is that the american people got sold the affordable care act. it s neither affordable or accessible. they re losing their coverage and premiums are spiking. if people this should be appl d applauding the president s action for wanting to ensure we have a system in place that does what they were promised a while back. that s what i think is missing from this dialogue. i ve seen some folks protesting, saying i m on obama care and i m going to lose my thing, and when they asked how old they were, they re not on obamacare, they re on medicaid. they re not making it up, but some are on employer-based insurance, or medicaid or medicare because of their age. so they have no problems. but i think in other cases people are being told the plan they re on is unsustainable, that these carriers throughout the country. look at them over and over again pulling out of the exchanges. the reality is they are losing their health care, but they re losing it under obamacare because the exchanges are collapsing on themselves, carriers are pulling out, so the president s plan is actually going to do exactly what they were promised eight years ago and didn t get. so for those who are worried, the answer is help is on the way. reporter: what goes tis the ? first, the president made cheer we ll have it out in a couple weeks. the goal is they god it jammed through the democrat-controlled, so taking the time, getting this right to achieve the goss is probably the right thing to do considering the experience we had the last time. hall hallie? reporter: at one point the caitlyn jenner could use whatever bathroom he wanted so why system a priority? i don t think it s a priority. it s not a priority. there is a case pending in the supreme court in which we have to decide whether or not to continue to issue guidance to the court. it s not it s dictated by that. the obama administration a issued joint guidance. we now have to decide whether or not this administration wants to continue that track that they were on. it s plain and simple. if we don t, but there are problems in the legal and process way in which that guidance was issued. so it s incumbent upon us to actually follow the law and recognize that title ix never talked about this. this was an act in 1972. there was no discussion of this back then. to assume certain elements were thought about back then would be completely preposterous. you think secretary devos is on board with this? yes, is 00%. the second question is on mexico. the secretary of state along with secretary kelly. obviously there have been tensions between did this is this a cleanup job? no, i think the presidents and foreign ministers had several contacts with our staff. i would argue that we have a very healthy and robust relationship with the mexican government and officials. i think, president nieto has echoed that. i think there s an unbelievable and robust dialogue. thank you. reporter: on syria, the general indicated the u.s. needs to take a larger share of the burden and send troops to syria. has the president discussed this with his national security team? i m going to refer you backs to dod. i would argue you ve seen the president talk about safe harbors in syria with several foreign safe havens, thank you, that s an area at the top of the president s foreign policy agenda that he s continued to talk to leaders especially in the middle east, about trying to make sure we deal with that issue in that area right now. but i m not going to get ahead of the dod on this? look, i will if i have an update, i will give it to you tomorrow. president trump indicating the prime minister wants the u.s. an canada council for advancement of women entrepreneurs, have you talked a bit about how it s growing? staff is implementing the president s agenda. it occurred six, seven days ago. we ll have further updates, but i know that he continues to be in touch with the prime minister trudeau and our staff continues to do to work on the back end to make this happen. a few questions for you. does the white house not have confidence in its cabinet secretaries if it s looking over their shoulders? does the white house does the president not trust his cabinet secretary? the staff to find people who agree with the president s agenda? not at all. the president named these folks, because they re an unbelievably qualified individuals. part of is you re attaching major deposition, somewhere in the area of 5,000 positions to fill. i don t even this i the secretaries, to some degree, depending on the department have a full background. as they get pumped through the pipeline. again there are areas that are of key priority to the president that he campaigned on. i think when he wants to make sure that certain of those individuals who are going to be overseeing key priorities, that he promised the american people have somebody who is not only qualified, but agrees with and shares the president s vision to fix whatever problem that was or fulfill whatever vision he articulated, but it would almost be malpractice not to do that, to allow people to fill a job, a political appointee job, who don t share the vision and agenda of the united states, would it would be silly on its face to suggest this. i don t think there s any administration in past history that would literally willingly take on somebody who is adamantly opposed or spoke on you spefl again what the president was seeking to do it doesn t seem as though it makes any sense. on the we re coming up a week away from the review of the counter-isis strategy. what s the status of that review? a bunch of generals? yes. is that regarding that review? i think general dumbford and secretary mattis have begun providing him updates on that. i know that the new national security adviser is getting brought into that process and continuing to do updates. we ll have further updates, but the team has been working on it. as far as the second executive order is concerned, what is the white house doing differently? in terms of consulting with the various departments to make certain that the exec executive order passed the constitutional scrutiny? i think we have done a few things. one, we have been very clear about understanding what the court said in trying to tailor that specifically, while achieving the same goals of keeping america safe and ensuring that people don t come into the country that seek to do us harm. and number two, to that order is basically completed. what we are now doing is working with the various agencies and departments to make sure the implementation of that is done in an extremely smooth way. we have looked at it from both a process standpoint, as well as a legal standpoint, and i think it s achieving the goals, but again i would also mention that on the merits, we can see i believe in the first order did just that. it was written in a way, and i think ultimately we ll continue to prevail on that, because it is written in a way that is clear and consistent with u.s. code and the authority the president has to protect the nation. katy. reporter: as it relates to the executive order, it s almost likely to face a legal challenge. sure. reporter: are you concerned the president s prior remarks as it relates to the judiciary is going to allow him to have a fair hearing by the judicial branch as it relates to the second amendment? yeah, absolutely. i think because i think that you ve seen it happen in the massachusetts case. at the end of the day, you look at the law and what the order does, and i think, again, you may have in the case of the ninth circuit, we continue to disagree with that. i think the president has pointed out, you don t have to be that high up in grade school to recognize what the code says, what the authority that is granted to imhad, and then what the order does. i think the one of the cases they suggested there have been no people that entered within the seven countries, and with a quick curse so i look there were 20 people that had come in. so the basis on which they decided the case doesn t actually pass muster. i think any judge or judges that look at that order or the one that will be put forward will come to the same conclusion. katie? reporter: i wanted to ask about the budget priorities? where does he see increase or decrease of spending? and how much money is he asking for i m going to refer you back to marta s question. we ll have something in mid-march. look, he just had a meeting where he s continuing to work out, they re providing him back and forth. that s the idea of crafting the budget. until we put it out on paper, i don t want to get ahead sean, thank you very much. back to mexico, officials have said this morning that they re not going to accept by the white house and by dhs yesterday and they may not taken that s not a mexican immigrant. i think secretary tillerson and secretary kelly will have a great discussion down there and walk through the implementation of the executive order, but i feel very confident that any country who has a citizen that comes into the country and we send back, we ll make sure they comply with this. two questions about immigration at the same time. one, the president has talked a number of times about millions of illegal immigrants casting votes for the election in his mind, promised to looked into that, but there was no mention of that in any of the these directives for these immigrants. does the president still believe he s mentioned that vice president pence will lead the task force, and the vice president is starting to gather names and individuals to be part of it. the other question i have about the daca program yesterday he suggested, well, we have to go after hardened criminals, major national security threats first, but during the campaign, the president talked about daca as being unconstitutional and executive amnesty. does he still think it s unconstitutional use of president obama s powers? yes, i think the president is very clear about his priorities. yesterday was focused on going after people who are a public safety concern, and we re going to walk through this. we will get back to you on that. right now the focus on keeping the he country safe. wile given all of the personal on deporting of legal immigrants, i wanted to see if this white house and president trump have any interesting in curtailing legal immigration going forward. we have to look at this. there s millions of people in the country illegally. i think the focus continues to be the 800,000 or 900,000 that already have an torrid to be removed and keep the process smooth. legal immigration is a completely separate subject. the president has talked about that, talked about it with bid leaders h 1 b vhave i visa, but there s a prioritization and we ll have more on it later. i ve got to run. thank you very much. see you tomorrow. take care. so there you have it, sean spicer, the white house press secretary wrapping up his briefing, answering reporters questions for a little more than half an hour. lots of questions were asked, veries important questions. the press secretary didn t completely answer a lot of those questions. we ll assess exactly what we learned, what we didn t learn. i m wolf blitzer in washington. once again we want to welcome our virus in the united states and around the world to help sort all of these important issues out. there s a lot going on today. let s bring in our chief national security correspondent jim scuitto, laura coates, david greg dorsey, talia polpan. jim, let mea start with you. the new travel ban that s about to be announced, there are several important questions about rhetoric, statements the president as a candidate had made that potentially could complicate implementing round 2 of this travel ban. clearly the white house strategy is to make it just about vetting from country that is have vetting problems, not making it about muslims these are donald trump s words when he announced this during the campaign december 2015. first was statement on preventing muslim immigration, pretty broad there. donald trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. that s what he sid during the campaign. that s on the record. even since the election, he s started to focus more on terror, keeping the country safe. you heard sean spicer says this is just about country that is didn t have proper vetting. so the question is, do the courts accept that quite remarkable pivot from the initial public statements, and we know in the ninth circuit case, they mentioned donald trump and the surrogate statements on the campaign trail d it meet the legal standard? that s for the courts to decide. i will note there has been a continues contradiction among donald trump s advisers here, because stephen miller, he was quoted on the air just a short time ago speaking to martha mccollum, if the change are minor and technical, but sean spicer is saying it s a whole different thing, listen it s going to be for the courts to decide what it is on paper. laura, you re a legal analyst. we did learn that the new travel ban has been completed. they re now going through how best to implement it to make sure that the requirements are fully met, but this issue of a muslim ban, that rhetoric that the president as candidate delivered did you the campaign, how much of a problem is this for getting round 2 approved? if due process is your minor technical point, you have a big uphill battle. remember, the court made very clear, they gave a blueprint in the ninth circuit that essentially said, listen we don t believe in the smoke and mirrors, if this is simply a pretext for discrimination, it violates the first amendment of the constitution, which is not what you can turn off and on if you re the president of the united states based on unfounded or perhaps just a bold assertion of national security. they re going to have do combat two things, take away the minority religious preference, and also figure out a way to provide some clarity for the court that says there is a reason why the existence vetting measures that we currently have in place are insufficient with respect to these seven countries. if it s because of your campaign rhetoric that will not pass constitutional muster. sara murdray is in the pressroo, the reports came out that the president is micromanaging all the various departments and agencies, vetting individuals that a secretary may want for a senior position, to make sure that those individuals didn t say or do anything contrary to the president s policies, didn t say anything negative about the candidates who have running. reporter: that s right, wolf, we do know this is a president that s been preoccupied for a long time about the notion of loyalty and he takes any criticism very personally. we ve seen that playing out as these cabinet secretaries are trying to staff their various agencies, that there has been concern coming from the white house about potentially people filling these political appointee slots who have been critical of the president in the past. white house press secretary sean spicer downplayed this today, basically say if you re looking at political appointees, you want people who are supportive of the president and supportive of his priorities as you know there were a number of republicans that might be well qualified for these jobs who weren t necessarily supportive of donald trump early on in the campaign, especially when we are looking at roughly a dozen candidates. one of the concerns we ve been hearing are worries that you will not broadband fill all of these slots of people who are proper loy have the proper level of experience if you re only looking at people who are support i was of donald trump from day one. the white house as you said is dismissive of this concern, who basically said anyone who will fill a political appointee should be on board 100%. that s an important point indeed. david gress guardino, on the issues of the town hall of republicans that they are now facing, some of them becoming rather loud, a lot of protests going on, citizens complaining, we did hear from sean spicer in response to a question, there seems to be in his word, a hybrid. some people are legitimately upset, they have every right to do so, but some of this is manufactured and there s a lot more noise than there are there seems to been a lot more noise than there seems to be specification issues. in other words it s directed from the outside. i think that s largely true. i don t think the manufactured part is true, but the fact you have some districts with loud resistance, organized resistance, resistance similar to the tea party, which is that it s coming organically, this time from progressive circles, in some cases being brought in from outside the district, to make a lot of noise, and to be disrupti disruptive. that s what the tea party was in large measure, and it s taking on big questions, are the republicans going to resist where progressives and middle of the roaders think they should. we re getting from the press briefs a lot of policy discussions now that s unsettled policy discussion. this whole debate about obamacare is not going to go well, because it s going to be messy and hard, just as it was when president obama pursued it, it s going to be contentious. that s what i think the town has are legitimately reflecting. you know, tal, he had a photo op with his secretary of treasury, budget director, basically insisting the whole budget is a mess. he used that word, but he did saysh and we did shear from sean spicer that make by early to mid march, new proposals for health care would be released and new specification budget decisions would be released as well, but the president referred to the whole process right now that he has inherited as a mess. it might look like a mess. folks on capitol hill are sort of waiting with bated breath to see what they get if we have this march dead lining, but there s a lot of things in the budget that s contrary to republican ideological ways. for example he wants a massive border security plan, we re going to build a wall, we re going to hire 15,000 people minimus, plus detention centers. there s very big-ticket items. we re not even talking yet about an infrastructure time, yet at the same time mick mulvaney is one of the biggest budget hawks that comes out congress. and there s a lot of questions how those two different ideas will work out. s. and who s going to pay for a lot of it. if you take the larger view, the only thing particularly well done is judge gorsuch. that was a hornet s nest because of how they handled judge garland, and all that s correct but all the traps were hit before he got going. the president could have been in a position to roll out some things on tax reform. he could have gotten that ball rolling a lot more seamlessly, hasn t done it yet, hasn t been organized. this focus on immigration has been incredibly questionive, but also not organized. jim, the secretary of homeland security, secretary kelly, the secretary of states rex tillerson, they ll be meeting with the mexican leadership. they should be arriving in mexico city shortly. there s been various descriptions of what their mission is right now. clearly there are some serious strains because of the president s repeated assertion that the u.s. is going to build this border wall and mexico will pay for it. apparently kelly and tillerson will propose that mexicans detain of course a burden for mexico in lights of the accusatory language, to say the least used by the president. you had sean spicer there in his words say we have a healthy and rho robust relationship with mexico. i wonder certainly if some strains have leaked out about paying for the wall, so we ll see if tillerson and kelly kelly had a long time working with mexicans as chairman of southern command, so he s been partners with them in the antidrug war, et cetera, do the personal relationship, tillerson s well-known diplomatic skills, does that get over an enormous hump by the president remains to be seen, and the ask they re going with is a pretty dramatic ask to make of someone you re not having the warmest relationship right now. another sensitive issue, laura, the issue of transgender bathrooms, the press secretary was asked a few times, what is the administration s stance on this? does it differ from the obama administration? he said further guidance would be released later today. it is a sensitive issue for the department of education. it is. what happened a couple years ago you had this issue of the fourth circuit of a student in virginia, gavin graham who is trying to use the bathroom of the sex he identified with. you had the president issuing guidance saying, listen, i m going to assist the public schools around the country to figure owl hoe we should sensitively treat people who are transgender, the civil rights division backed them up, and essentially the department of education said title ix guards against sex discrimination. we didn t talk about transgender identity being sex, but it s the same thing we re talking about protecting people. well, the supreme court will now hear the case march 28th, because the fourth circuit set we re going to rely on the president, president obama s guidance at that time. so if trump then reverses that guidance, even if it s for benign reasons, which he has suggested that it is, the court may send it right back to the lower courts and say because you relied on that guidance, it no longe arer exists this could be a very lengthy court procedure and an affront for civil rights that s happened for the lbgt population. you heard sean spicer saying the president is a strong believer in states rights, and that would be a sensitive issue as far as this supreme court decision is concerned. it will be. it s not just whether the federal government should have a role, or is this a states rights constitution which would be a constant battle between federalism and different administrations. that s the theory, but when it comes down to it title 9:00 does guard against sex discrimination. gender identify is about sex discrimination. it s a civil rights issue. we we know about the uproar in north carolina as a result of the ex-governor there. everybody stand by. we re getting more reaction coming in. ted lu of california is with us. we re going to get his reaction of what we heard from the white house. some of those fiery town has. congressman, stay with us. we ll be right back. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california 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take, and if you re pregnant or planning to be. ask your dermatologist about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. right now constituents across the nation are extending republican lawmakers that they are not happy. outside a town hall event for mitch mcconnell, people lined for miles carrying signs protesting many of the new policies. other republican lawmakers are on town has later today, including ryan costello, senator dean heller, and bill cassidy of louisiana. they re hoping to avoid scenes like these. we wrecked our economy with our rulations last i heard these coal jobs are not coming back. now they don t have the insurance they need because they re poor, and they worked the coal mines, and they re sick, the vet advance are sick, the vet advance are broken down, they re not getting what they need. if you can answer any of that, i ll sit down and shut up like elizabeth warren. the insurance no, what percentage let me finish my answer, please. i m going to answer the question. when will you be defunding planned parenthood? are you willing to cross party lines to make things work for everyone in your constituency? i cross party lines all the time. last week i was the single do you want to be poor or richer? that is the [ crowd yelling ] i would like to answer questions. president trump weighed in with this tweet. i d read it to you the so-called angry crowds are actually in numerous cases planned out by liberal activists. sad with an exclamation point. meantime president trump is sending two of his top lieutenants to mexico. secretary of state rex tillerson will get there later today and joined by secretary kelly. they ll be meeting with president nieto as between the two presidents, but secretaries kellie and tillerson hope to move past that as they engage the mexican government on border security, immigration and trade and of course the wall that the president wants to build along the border. house speaker ryan is paying a visit to the mexican border, there along with other republicans as they view the area of trump s promised border wall, coming up with a roughly $20 billion expected to take to builds that wall. let me bring in a democrat, a member of the foreign affairs committee and subcommittee on homeland security. thanks for joining us. thank you, wolf. you heard sean spicer say the u.s. and mexico have a robust healthy relationship right now, do you agree with that assessment? thank you, donald trump is afraid people are going to watch cnn, you must be doing something right. thank you for reporting real news. to your question, sean spicer is lying again. he said relations are phenomenal, that is false. there have been protests, and just introduced legislation to say they are not going to buy u.s. corn, they are at one of the worst points in u.s.-mexican history. they re going to be having high level meetings, spicer also said it was an important trip but pushed back on what you re suggesting, he said they re going to try to mend some fences with mexico but this is clearly a critical moment, i assume you agree? absolutely. this is not the first time this has happened when president trump offended the prime minister of australia, we had republican u.s. senators call the ambassador to try to mend fences, now we re sending two secretaries to try to clean up the mess. the white house says everyone who is here illegally undocumented immigrants here in the united states everyone is subject to removal but also say the enforcement guidelines are not meant the facilitate mass deportations, you re response? having come to the united states as an immigrant i find the administration s actions offensive, unamerican and cruel, and it s going to separate children from their parents, break apart families and at least under george bush we had compassionate conservative, this is cruel conservetism, and is going to lead tomas deportations and that is not good for america and i hope people see about what s to happen and we stop it. but the president is letting the so-called dreamers brought here as young kids by their parents from other countries an they have grown up here in the united states the only country they know, he says the daca provisions will remain in affect. you re pleased by that? i am, but they could also deport their parents of these daca students and i m not pleased with that. this is all based on a ultimate reality of facts, it s been negative since 2007 that means more mexicans have left america than entered. and studies show documented and undocumented commit less crimes than people born in america. let me quickly get your reaction to president trump s tweet that a lot of unrest is being caused by liberal activists, sean spicer basically said the same thing in his briefing saying that the anger that the media is showing is not necessarily genuine, what s your response to that? these protests at these town halls are continuation of the massive backlash against president trump starting january 21st with the women s march, then at the airports and now at the town halls and i think it s sad that the president of the united states is ignoring the concerns of the americans. thanks for joining us. thank you. so who will lead the democratic party in the era of a new president. the debate they debate tonight live on cnn at 10:00 p.m. eastern, chris cuomo and dana bash are the moderators. the visit is meant to ease tensions between trump s administration and mexican president, tillerson s state department is responsible for explaining u.s. foreign policy to the country indeed to the world through daily press briefings, but they haven t held one since president trump took office back on january 20th, tony blink en is with me. it s been a month now and there s been no daily state department briefing. that s right. to the news media, no on-camera briefings, sthrthere spokesman, but it s pretty unusual to be this long not hearing from the state department? it is, and it takes an important mega phone out of our hands. this is the way to explain policy and clarify policy, i think there s probably good reason for it and that s that it s unclear what the police is, it s hard to know what to say when there s this dysfunction in the national security process. to date the right people haven t been brought around the table in the situation room, secretary of state, chairman of joint chiefs and others normally when you have a normal process everyone gets around the same table, debate the policy, decide the policy an everyone speaks with one voice. that hadn t been happening. presumably a state department spokesperson could go out there and say something contradictory within minutes? yes. the vice president and the secretary of homeland security and they did a good job in i think reassuring europeans except no one in europe could tell what exactly represented the administration s policy and i think secretary tillerson is under the same challenge. all the senior positions that just below that of secretary of state are unfilled. assistant secretaries their vetting people presumably reviewing the process but you have temporary career diplomats filling in some of those spots. that s exactly right. it s not the same thing as having a full time when he s off going to mexico which is a good thing who is back in the white house representing the state department when they re talking policy? assuming they re even convened in that room. he s there to protect the interest of the department to make sure it s fully represented. what s wrong with what the white house says, they are political appointees, they don t want those who criticize donald trump during the extent of the campaign, i m sure that the obama administration didn t want critics. on one hand there s nothing wrong with that and the president is entitled to have his people so is the secretary of state, but two things what s going on and i think a new problem with the national security adviser has to get his arms around is while the nfc has been operationing you see other competing power centers rising, you have mr. bannon apparently maki making with russia, even mexico, a bunch of freelancers presenting peace plans for ukraine around behind the back of the national security council. unless regular order is re-established and that really is mr. mcmaster s job it s going to be hard for anyone to make policy and doubly difficult because our partners around the world don t know who to listen to. you served and became deputy secretary of state. i assume you re reassured that general mcmaster is now the national security adviser. he s a first rate pick and everything he s done whether it was on the battlefield or thinking and writing about national security, i think it s hard to find anyone who has anything negative to say about him, i hope one of conditions he took about taking the job was it
the speaker warned him off of that. made very clear that the individuals that would be voting for this bill were many of the individuals that helped republicans secure and maintain the majority, told them it wasn t the best idea. that said, there was still a house freedom caucus meeting that was scheduled with tom price and nick mulvaney. they allowed that to happen after it was clear after the meeting there would be no movement with the conservatives, the house freedom caucus members. the call was made. president trump called the speaker and told him clearly it was time to pull the bill and that is exactly what happened and the ramifications of that aren t just micro, not just this week or this bill. they are health care, period. obamacare stands not just for now, not just for the next couple months butter for the foreseeable future. a lot of republicans talked about if this goes down maybe kind of go piecemeal, piece by piece, try to do this in smaller chunks than all at once but is the president saying he ll just move on to tax reform and dropping health care completely until obamacare, in his words, implodes? reporter: all together. in a closed door conference meeting this afternoon after the decision was made to pull the bill, that was the message, direct message from speaker ryan, trump is done, the president is moving on. there was stunned silence when this was conveyed to the room according to people who were inside of it. they realized this issue they ve been campaigning on in 2010, 2014, 2016 was now off the table and they were moving far. the real question is how does this damage or help them learn going forward when you tackle other big am pentagon officials items like tax reform and infrastructure? the reality is there s no answer to that question. going to talk to the panel. first cnn political analyst maggie haberman who spoke today with the president by phone shortly after the bill was pulled. you said he showed uncharacteristic discipline. how did the conversation go? certainly in that phone call. i m not saying lit hold until tomorrow morning which i think people are looking for his twitter feed to see how he reacts. he was focussed in his message, which was this is the democrats fault. you can argue with it but that was his message. we couldn t get a single democratic vote, only go by republicans and didn t have enough. downplaying divisions among republicans. to a point because he did volunteer, i didn t ask, he said, you know, he didn t blame paul ryan and then said singled out the tuesday group, a group of moderates. there are a lot of members there, called them quote/unquote terrific, which i took as a dig at the house freedom caucus even though he didn t name them. later on he talked about one of the complications was there s a lot of different party, it s eventually he didn t say it with this way but as if you re dealing with different political parties, conservatives, moderates, all within the same republican umbrella. he did not sound frustrated. i have heard from adviser who is spoke to him that he is quite frustrated, i think he s been a little gob smacked by what kind of process this is. you asked how this compared to business. i asked how it compares to real estate deals. he said no different, e sechblly the same thing but as he was departing the oval office tonight or talking to aides he said to one of them this was a lot harder, real estate was much easier than this. i think this is a learning curve for him. also worth remembering, he said that to me as well that i ve been here 64 days, i didn t say i would do it in this number of days. he did push congress to push this through pretty quickly and there was some resistance from congress on this. so it s going to be hard for him going forward to navigate the way out of owning this. i don t know that blaming it on the democrats is the way to do it. what he said to me is in a year it will collapse, democrats come back to me and they ll want to make a deal and i m open to doing that. i do not believe that that is likely to happen. but that is where he s putting hi focus. you don t believe it s leekly to happen pause you don t believe obamacare is likely to implode in the way he believes? not the way he describes. enrollments are down but not to the degree he s saying. either way certainly at the moment democrats are not many much of a deal mood with the president. he trashes the new york times all the time. he does? so i ve heard. did he call you? did he i reached out to one of his aides and asked if he was up for speaking and they put me through to him. just in terms of there was one thing in the article that stood out to me, he said i don t know if relief but sort of like it s done. i asked him are you happy to have this in your rear-view mirror and he said he didn t hear the question and i repeated it, are you happy it s over with and he said i am. it s enough already. i think i don t think he meant that he found legislating is hard, which is how some took it on twitter but more that i think there was enormous frustration for him and i think this is a fair complaint, just that it s his own party, they would go to the house freedom caucus and make what they would thought was a concession and then hear back, you know, now we re moving the goal posts over this way, and once they agreed to something here, then the tuesday group would want something too. i think he felt like he was navigating a game of inches pack and forth. that s one thing that s always been so hard about health care. been described as whac-a-mole. solve one problem and another pops up. with what you ve done for the freedom caucus annoys the moderate. we reported last night he started musing to people over the last couple days that he should have done tax reform first a number of his advisers urged him to do. congress didn t want to do that. one of the things this president does, it s like he stress tests an idea and talks to different aides and says do you think this this is good but the more he does that it s because there s nagging doubt. maggie will stay with us for the full panel. later my conversation with an advocate for a different kind of health care reform, bernie sanders when we continue. modern life deserves a modern way to pay. on your phone and online. so you don t miss his first birthday. tickets, i need to see your tickets sir. i masterpassed it. feeling like father of the year: priceless masterpass, the secure way to pay from your bank don t just buy it. masterpass it. blue moon is brewed with valencia orange peel, for a taste that shines brighter. it can seem like triggers pop up everywhere. luckily there s powerful, 24-hour, non-drowsy claritin. it provides relief of symptoms that can be triggered by over 200 different allergens. live claritin clear. not just a legislative defeat today but his ability to do what he always does best. i have tremendous energy to the point it s elementary dick louse when you think about it. but we need somebody with great energy, great passion, great deal making skills. i m going to make the great deals. i am going to make great deals for our country. what i do is i do deals, i deal. i negotiate by creating leverage so i can extract a good deal for the united states, for the people. i make deals. i negotiate. everybody wants me to negotiate. that s what i m known as, a negotiator. i m so anxious to negotiate. nobody can out-negotiate these deals. i will make a great deal and lots of great deals for the american people. i am a deal maker and that s what the country needs. we don t make great deals anymore but we will once i become president. i m a closer. i m going to close. we re going to start winning so much. we re going to win and win and win! back with the panel. gloria borger and ryan liz sa, john king, maggie haberman, jack kingston, james sake, jason miller and brian fallon. john king, an extraordinary day. it is and donald trump has defied every rule in politics so don t put anything in cement tonight. however, he failed at his first big test. to the point you played that sound and from his announcement speeches, i know the politicians, i can get a deal, if you can t get a deal, you re not very good. hi words. i m the guy who does deals. he could not get his party to follow him on the first big test of the trump presidency. to maggie s point, he can second guess the sequencing but he came to washington, i m uniquely qualified to do this, plus my friends, brought in inside washington guy, i m the outsider, we re going to get this dope. what is the lasting effect, who knows. but the factions in the republican party he inherited is a pre-existing condition. they were there before. this idea that he didn t know, who knew health care was so complica complicated, who knew there were different parties within the republican party, anyone who did their homework would know that. this is not all politics. they had deep political divides, philosophical divides how to replace obamacare. they d all repeal it tomorrow. some need to replace it because of where they live and who they need to answer to for the next election. if he didn t know that coming in he didn t to-do his homework. gloria, in maggie s interv w interview, clearly the democrats but it s a republican-led house. i think he s clearly angry at the conservatives in the freedom caucus, i don t know if he said it directly to you, but it seemed to me today when he was speaking and said they re my friends but then talked about a bipartisan deal, that it was a clear dig at them because it would be clear that he would be going around them. i think the big problem here is that he hasn t figured out how to translate the populism from the campaign into any kind of legislative agenda that he can get through the congress. this bill was a paul ryan bill. this wasn t a donald trump bill even though in the end he came to embrace it. he didn t do it as wholeheartedly. maggie, correct me if i m wrong, but it seems to me that in his tone today he wasn t as angry as he seemed to be after jeff sessions recused himself, you know, from dealing on anything with russia that the anger that we ve sometimes seen pop up just wasn t there, and i think the republicans cared more about losing this than donald trump did. i think you re right in theory in the sense when i spoke to him his demeanor was pretty calm, as i said very disciplined and on message. but as we also know not taking anything away from that, but we know based on history he has a habit of kind of stewing a little while. we ll see tomorrow. heading into a friday night. saturday, he lives alone, will be alope in the white house residence watching television, possibly right now. how this all plays out i think is going to affect it. i think he was a little gob smacked. i don t know where whether that means he will blow up or get upset. to your point that he cared less than paul ryan did because this wasn t his bill, i agree but it s also important to remember the thing that he discovered more than i think he understood during the campaign, maybe a reflection of not doing homework or fully grasping the nuances of your on party but he and the freedom caucus don t have a ton in common in terms of the way you govern. donald trump is from new york city, despite borrowing the language out outside of new york city go ahead. i want to say they have a common enemy that i d say would be inside washington. yeah. but that doesn t say how you should actually the role that government should play in terms of people s lives. so when you are talking about government-funded programs and medicaid, donald trump is a lot less with paul ryan and the freedom caucus frankly than he is with a lot of democrats. there s this debate within the party between eventually the neolibertarians that the freedom caucus represents, small government, free market, that s what they pushed every step. you have to give them credit because they were pushing policy. they had a philosophical idea about this bill. trump has these inchoate ideas that are populist and nationalist but nobody could take off the shelf what the populist jason? i would say the president ultimately is right, the democrats didn t come over so there s a lot is on them. let me finish. i think too we need to go down the list and call out some names and make it clear where this fell apart. speaker paul ryan and house leadership, they should have been waiting there on november 9th in the wee hours when myself and the president and kellyanne and all the other folks were there, found out the app called the race and the speaker should have been jumping out of a celebration cake with a big obamacare repeal and replace not have been a pretty sight. mr. president, here s the bill, we have had seven years since this passed, six years we ve had the majority, here you go. did you expect they would have something prepared? hold on one second. absolute mal practice the republican leadership did not have this ready to go. one over problem, republican leadership didn t bring in the freedom caucus early enough in the process. that being said, the freedom caucus, can t say they goat off scot-free because with this power they have is a voting bloc comes responsibility. they had the opportunity here to improve this bill and finally come up with something to repeal and replace obamacare. no one s going home this weekend throwing high fives to people at supermarkets. what happened to the buck stops here for president of the united states? ultimately this is paul ryan s bill. hold on. this is a lesson for the administration. that s the new title on the december that can the buck doesn t stop here, it stops with paul ryan? [ talking over each other ] do you think there should be a new speaker? i don t think the game is over because every single republican that ran for the school board and county coroner promised to repeal and replace. they have a two-year term. for four consecutive elections. they ll be up for re-election in two years and i can promise they ll have primary opponents who will say you didn t deliver. there will be great 30-second sound bites. who s sitting in the better seat is the president. he can say stew about it and call me. i m not convinced this isn t a negotiating tactic of his saying i m going to mover on to tax reform. he said i m moving to tax reform but he can t do the tax reform he wants to do because he doesn t have the money because they didn t repeal obamacare. he wants a border tax a lot of republicans oppose, then an infrastructure plan a lot of republicans oppose. he has to start winning. this is the democrats home advantage on health care because it is entitlements, government expansion. it s a subject that you guys feel a lot more taxes, we feel better about. i think republicans the cheshire cat grins. you like health care. i don t think most republicans will like you saying democrats like health care and republicans don t. aren t all americans going to like health care? having health care? today was a big day for many of the democrats who fought against obamacare but nobody should be gloating or thinking this is over. there are still fixes that need to be made. even if hillary clinton had become president that would have been a discussion that was on the table. does that happen now? here s the question. what jason said, donald trump has written about being open to a public option before. chuck schumer and president obama and hillary clinton have talked about that. is this an opportunity? he said this will lead to a better health care plan. we have to take a quick break. up next, senator bernie sanders joins us for his take on all, this especially how president trump pretty much blamed the democrats for the failure of the gop health care. sk what bad back? what pulled hammy? advil liqui - gels make pain a distant memory nothing works faster stronger or longer what pain? advil. today, it s the dawn of a new lawn. that s because new roundup for lawns has arrived. finally, there s a roundup made just for your lawn, so you can put unwelcome lawn weeds to rest. draw the line. with roundup for lawns, there is no better way to kill lawn weeds to the root without harming a single blade of grass. it s a great day to be a lawn. draw the line with roundup for lawns. and for weeds in other spaces, turn to roundup weed & grass killer products. e trade s powerful trading tools, give you access to in-depth analysis, and a team of experienced traders ready to help if you need it. it s like having the power of a trading floor, wherever you are. it s your trade. e trade nobody does unlimited like t-mobile. while the other guys gouge for unlimited data. t-mobile one save you hundreds a year. right now get two lines of data for $100 dollars. with taxes and fees included. that s right 2 unlimited lines for just $100 bucks. all in. and right now, pair up those two lines with two free samsung galaxy s7 when you switch. yup! free. so switch and save hundreds when you go all unlimited with t-mobile. difficult thing to do. so obamacare is exploding with no democrats aboard we couldn t quite get there. i think the losers are nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. pause now they own obamacare. they own it, 100% own it. the u.s. just remember, this is not our bill, this is their bill. this would have worked out better if we could have had some democrat support. remember this, we had no democrat support. joining us now is former democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders of vermont. when you hear the president blaming the democrats for his bill s collapse, what s your response? that s exactly what the american people wanted. the american people understood that this is not a health care bill, anderson. this was a $300 billion tax break for the top 2%, massive tax breaks for the drug companies and for the insurance companies, and threw 24 million people off health insurance, defunded plan t parenthood, significantly raised premiums for all the workers and cut medicaid by $880 billion. poll after poll showed that is exactly what the american people did not want and democrats should take credit for killing a really, really bad piece of legislation. who do you think is responsible for the failure to get the bill passed? you say credit should go to the democrats. anderson, that s just a media game. nobody really cares that it s a failure of trump or a failure of ryan. what the american people are asking is how does it happen that we are the only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to all people as a right? anderson, i am talking to you tonight 50 miles away from the canadian border. get there in an hour. they manage to vo provid health care for every man, woman, and child in their country at half the cost per person than we do. the cost of prescription drugs in canada significantly lower than it is in the united states. the question is why are we not moving forward with a medicare for all single-payer program guaranteeing health care to all people which will be much more cost effective than we presently have? what do you think happens now? cheerily that is what you would like to see happen but the president is just talking about letting obamacare fail, cb objection says it s not imploding or on a death spiral like republicans are saying it is. what do you see happening? many democrats say things need to be amended or changed in obamacare. right. look, again, i believe in a medicare for all single payer program but it ain t going to happen right now. we don t have the support in the congress for that. so while we continue that long-term struggle right now we need to improve the affordable care act, and that means a public option available in every state in this country which gives people a wide variety of options but makes sure that there is competition in every community in this country. in my view, it means lowering the age of medicare from 60 through 65 down to 55 allowing more americans to participate in that program. it means passing medicare, negotiating ability with the pharmaceutical industry and reimportation allowing us to buy less expensive drugs around the world which will not only lower the cost of medicine in this country, lower the cost of health care. those are some authority term remedies i think we need to go forward on. obviously you need to convince republicans in the house. that won t happen it seems at this point. what happens over the next year? the president is saying this will fail on its own and democrats will come back to him a year from now trying to make a deal. i look at life a little differently needless to say than the president does. i think one of the reasons this legislation went down today is that all over this country we had hundreds of thousands of people coming out to rallies. cnn covered town meet wrgs instead of having 20 or 30 people agreeing with their republican of let s cut security and medicare, you had a thousand people showing up saying you know what you re not going to trip it will rates that i pay for health insurance. you re not going to throw me off of medicaid. people began the process of fighting back. we have got to continue that. the republican agenda, tax breaks for millionaires, massive cuts to health care, great increase in expenditures for the military budget. not acknowledging the reality of climate change. all of those ideas are way out of touch with where the american people are. our job now is to rally the american people to demand that the u.s. congress represent the middle class in this country, not just the 1%. what is your opinion on this republican notion that obamacare is going to explode, that it s going in a death spiral, it will explode? i think the suggests that that is not the case. but on the other hand, what is fair to acknowledge is the deductibles in many cases are too high, premiums are too high, and while obamacare has slowed down the rate of health care increase, it is going up much too fast. a sensible approach is to say here are the problems. here s one example. could you a million. a couple years ago the l.a. statistics we had the five major drug companies in this country made $50 billion in profit. five companies while they charged the american people the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. if we had medicare negotiating prescription drug prices with the drug companies, if we allow pharmacists and distributors to buy lower cost medicine from canada and other countries we could lower the cost of prescription drugs and health care. trump has talked a lot about the high coast of prescription drugs. i skuspect it s another high, he s not serious about it. if republicans are serious, let s work together. that s one way to save billions of dollars for americans in terms of health care costs. when you heard the president say nobody knew how tough this would be, nobody knew how tough it would be to overturn obamacare, what did you think? well, i mean, i thought it was rather amusing that a few weeks ago president trump said health care s really complicated. well, you know, for those of us who are on the health education committee, those of us who had dozens of hearings and mark-ups, yeah, health care is pretty complicated. but at the end of the day, this is the bottom line here, we pay by far more much more per capita for health care than do the people than any other country. double the canadians, almost trip it will british, and our health care outcomes in many respects are not as good. so i think we need to rethink a health care system which is dominated by private, for-profit insurance companies, dominated by very greedy drug companies, and let s go forward and try to protect the american people and not just wealthy campaign contributors. senator sanders, appreciate your time as always. thank you. thank you very much. just ahead in the hours before the gop health care bill was pulled white house press secretary sean spicer said over and over that president trump had given his all in trying to close the deal. so what happened? donald trump: everybody s got to be covered. i am going to take care of everybody. everybody s going to be taken care of much better than they re taken care of now. announcer: 20 million americans gained health coverage under the affordable care act. .including millions of our most vulnerable citizens - children, the disabled and the elderly. now, under some plans in congress, millions of these americans could lose that health coverage. the women and men of america s hospitals urge congress to protect affordable coverage for as many americans as possible. of time and effort into this and made a strong case. i think it shocked a lot of people frankly how very detail oriented, how personal it was for him. there s no question in my mind at least the president and the team left everything on the field. has the team left everything on the field? absolutely. we ve done everything. we ve done every single thing, every meet, every call, calling members, you know, as early as 6:00 in the morning going until 11:00 in the last several nights. has he pulled out every stop, called every member, tweaked every tweak, done every single thing he can possibly and used every minute of every day that s possible to get this thing through? the answer is yes. sean spicer in the hours leading up to the bill s defeat. brian todd, how damaging is this for president trump in term os-what he wants to do moving forward? pretty damaging. and i think it s his failure. he can say it was paul ryan s bill but the decision to outsource the drafting to paul ryan was his decision and he didn t go out there and sell it. this whole process has only taken about three weeks and he s not been out selling. 17% approval according to quinnipiac. that s his problem. he may have gone through the motions of lobbying, brought people to the white house, went to capitol hill, but at the end of the day people didn t hear him. we heard for days the freedom caucus members would succumb because of fear he would come to their districts and primary them. in one meeting he stood up and pointed to meadows, the head of the freedom caucus, and said i m coming after you, people didn t know if he was joking or threatening. the outside republican groups didn t fear the president. that will be a problem when it comes time to pass things like the debt ceiling. those who were opposing this were saying we ll support you, have your back. congressman kingston, again it s early and every president has ayn justment from campaigning to lead bug failed to repeal and replace obamacare, the travel ban blocked twice by federal courts, the iran nuclear deal he promised he would rip up on day one didn t happen, the border wall doubtful mexico will pay for it. no truth to the wire claim tap claims. how to you spin this as a good start? he has a great cabinet and is about to get a supreme court nominee. chuck schumer is not looking good in his opposition to gorsuch. nobody is taking him seriously. the supreme court clearly he ll get that. keystone pipeline, $8 billion project that obama held up for seven years, today charter communication has announced a $25 billion investment, 20,000 new jobs. he s had success with lockheed, carrier, talking to businesses. these aren t really government programs but these are wins and these are things that conservative voters are going to say yeah do you think overall for the first 60-some-odd days he s winning? i think he is. a tough atmosphere in washington, d.c. people tend to give the president the benefit of the doubt. no matter who the president is, they still have his approval rating is 37% so it looks like they re not giving him that much of a benefit of the doubt. let me say this about the selling of the bill, brian was talking about. this president knows how to sell stuff. he knows how to go out and go on the stump and make the case. the problem i think this time was that he couldn t make the case because he didn t believe in the case. and educate the public about what was in the bill that is better than what is in obamacare. people didn t know. the democrats made a very good case in opposition, i would argue, and were out there every minute, making that case. and the republicans did not go home and make the case and when they were first attacked at their town hall meetings, that was the first sign. that was the sign that they were in trouble. do you think those town hall meetings had a big impact? i do. they went back to the negotiating table, a lot of them got nervous and maybe the president got nervous. i don t know. but he never said this is better than obamacare. this provision will do more for you than obamacare did. so he never got out there and sold it. i m going to come back. if you take sean spicer at his word, that s a pretty damning indictment of the president s sway then. if he didn t everything he could and couldn t move members of his own party, that s a pretty damning indictment of how much sway he has. i do think the president put a lot into this in the last couple weeks but if you studied history like immigration for republicans this the quicksand of american politics, health care. those democrats who voted for obamacare thought they were casting a good vote. they lost 63 seats in the next election. still a recession, unemployment. a in 2014 after losing the house in 2010, in 2014 the democrats lost the senate. do you not think every republican today thinking about am i undecided, yes or no, was thinking about the history of politics, one, and you do have profound policy differences within the republican party. the freedom caucus people don t believe the government should be in the health care business. they should be in the market and the government should have a limited role. those for hillary clinton have to answer to a different set of voters who didn t want guaranteed maternity coverage or health care coverage. donald trump didn t run on a specific health care plan. he ran on repeal and replace and it will be better for you, i promise. he ran on tacks and trade. if he was going to touch health care he didn t litigate it. obama and edwards litigated health care. they spent a tub of time on the campaign, fought about universal coverage and the subset, then the president took months to sell it to the country. he went to the house republican cop conference in baltimore where mike pence introduced him. it was fake, i ll say it up front. president obama was not genuine in his outreach to republicans on health care but he at least checked the box. this is to complicated. we were talking about this during the break. if once the president decided to let ryan outsource the bill to ryan to take the insiders game, do health care fist, not your outsider agenda you ran on, they should have been doing work during the transition, going to the southern members districts asking anderson cooper to cast a vote he doesn t want to cast for me in january and you voted for me, back him up. he didn t. i don t think they ll make that mistake for taxes and infrastructure and trade. this administration has to get back to donald trump issues. taxes, trade, immigration, defeating isis. those are the cores, the things that move voters. might not have been traditional republican voters wasn t the repeal and replace obamacare, wasn t that a huge issue, a core that was the number one thing for donald trump, wasn t it? that was more of a ted cruz issue. come on. oh my gosh. [ talking over each other ] that was on day one. i was at 20 rallies where donald trump spoke. i never that s interesting. you re saying it was obligatory, he was faking it. an obligatory republican line for everybody who runs for office wearing the written by his staffer paul manafort. in fact, let s just look at this again because i think i m in an alternate universe. let s take a look at what he said. on my first day i m going to ask congress to immediately repeal and replace obamacare. we will be able to immediately repeal and replace obamacare. let me say this. t if i was looking at the sign okay. back to jason s point, his core issues really were jobs, strong national defense. to begin with and that s where he likes to be. it is an obligatory repeal and replace obamacare, you asked him what he was going to do on the jobs he would say if at the end of all this process are you guys really [ talking over each other ]. if at the end of all this process the best we as republicans could come up with was a bill that had a 17% approval rating i think the president and his smart guys in the back room probably said let s get out of this thing because you re about to make your guys walk the plank for a bill that would be killed in the senate. today he said i m here 64 days, i never said repeal and replace in 64 days. no, he actually said sooner than that. we have to take a quick break. other breaking news on capitol hill. three former top aides during the trump campaign including paul manafort have volunteered to be grilled by the house intelligence committee. top aides, carter page isn t really correct. but two top aides, the republican chairman of that committee has sprung a surprise, canceling the next public hearing. blue moon is brewed with valencia orange peel, for a taste that shines brighter. 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the end seven years ago we were left with something that is unsustainable, we were left with something hurting americans back home, that s hurting health care coverage and it s a binary choice, a choice of continuing down a path of affordable care act that s not working or repealing it and repairing it and moving forward in the process. i ran on that in 2009 that i was going to repeal and replace obamacare i m going to vote yes so we can repeal an start the process of of repeal and replacing obamacare. do you have a sense of other februaries of the freedom caucus if they are moving forward? i don t. the wednesday group, the friday group, i got a lot of friends on both sides of the aisle, what i m hearing is everybody has their opinion. the real problem is there are two choices either move forward and repeal this bill that everybody wants us to repeal back home and what we all ran on or you re going to allow it just to continue. because you heard the president and i ve got to give the president a lot of credit. he has worked with everyone. i spent an hour and a half in the white house with him. he has listened changed things and actually helped the process and i think at the end people have to realize this is part of moving forward and he wants to get this done to move on to tax reform and i m hoping others will come on board an vote as well. if it does not come to a vote or does not pass, what then? what happens? i think like the president said and i m a businessman as well, you can t just keep going back and forth and back and forth. he wants to move on to other things. i would like to see tax reform being done, i hope we can move on to that, but at this point it s a binary choice, you re either voting for the repeal and replace process to begin or allowing obamacare to continue and move on to something else. the critics say what s the rush? why do you have to do this so quickly? why not go back fix it, make it better, you said yourself you hate the way the process was dealt with, the chances of passing in the senate are very minimal, a much smaller republican vote, why not go back and improve it so you love it and your colleagues love it. i hope it does go to the senate, that is the process, let the senators do what they think, send it back, let s keep it moving but the american people want to see things getting done, we have immigration reform, tax reform, all things on the plate. we can t just continue to say well let s go back to the drawing board. it s time to move this process forward. time to move on to the next agenda item. again, i might not like everything in the bill but i know it s the opportunity for us to repeal and replace and repair and move this forward and get on to the rest of the agenda. thanks very much for joining us. thank you. david chalian, political director. the big picture here? i keep thinking back to on election night when the results were clear and we saw that donald trump had taken the oval office and republicans had the house and the senate, the first thing that people discovered or started analyzing and talking about well obamacare is gone, that s clear they have the house, the senate, oval office. and have been talking about it for seven years. of course. and i can t believe we re sitting here watching this potentially fall apart. again, they still have to cast these votes so we don t know exactly where this will land but if this is going to go the way sean spicer s briefing seems to suggest that it is, paul ryan and donald trump are going to be the ones that saved obamacare and kept it in place is a bizarre outcome. and what s more bizarre is republicans will be blaming each other no doubt if it loses the president will blame the democrats an whatever else, but you not only have republicans blaming each other but you have house republicans saying the reason we can t do this is because we don t trust the senate republicans and it s just this incredible mess that i don t think donald trump had any idea what he was walking into when he became president. someone who was sitting in the white house tonight of the election, we fully thought obamacare would be dead long before now, so the fact that it is still alive is not something i think the obama team, most democrats expected in any way. the interesting dynamic which gloria touched on that s happening now there s no doubt the man plaqcconnell is workinge sweetener no way he s keeping the cuts and especiasentials, at of them are going to walk the plank. can you explain for our viewers what is happening now? are they still making calls trying to wrangle votes? what s happening now is they are going one by one and no longer talking about gee, what do you want in and what do you want out? that s been done, this will be the bill that will be voted on. it s set what they are saying to them are the political arguments and making process arguments. you have got to start this process, if you don t start it here it won t start anywhere, taxes have to start in the house of representatives constitutionally, so will you move to process forward? and that s the major argument they re make k, frankly not unlike 1986 when the house took up a tax reform bill had almost no reform as president reagan, bradley or dep hahart wanted it. some defeated that rule, and i remember ronald reagan came up to the hill and spoke to house republicans and said i pledge to you if this doesn t come out right in the senate, i will veto it but i have got to have this process move forward. the problem i had with jack was whether he would rule for the process to go forward and he said no, couldn t, hated everything in the bill and he turned around on the stair above me and said shut-up i don t want to hear you talk about it again, i m voting for it we have got to keep the process going. that s what is happening right now. we have all seen the house of cards. how tough, how bare knuckles, you re saying one-on-one, talking about somebody saying shut-up. well that was a member to a staff person, so it s easy. working for jack as a staff person he had the right to say anything he wanted to me. having said that member to member let me walk you through what i think is going to happen, this will happen next, this will happen next and that s what members are balancing right here a bill they don t like everything and, they like some things not everything, is it more of a risk to send to the senate or more of a risk to stop it in the house and see what happens after that and that s a balancing act but these conversations aren t vicious kfr conversations they are here is what i think what do you think? we have seen concessions for memb members of the freedom caucus, work requirements for those w who sooner into medicaid rather than later and that s brought some of the freedom caucus firmly believes this doesn t do enough to bring down premiums and expand choices for the american people, problem is when they made concessions for some to have more moderate republicans fell off the vote so today we had vice president pence working hard on the hill as you indicated one-on-one with some of these people. that s why it s so complex, it s like whack a mole. what i m hearing more than anything donald trump wants people to go to the floor, have a record, but those that are no aren t concerned about what donald trump thinks, more concerned about their constituents back home and that s more motivating. david gurgen what do you think? i understand the instinct on the part of the white house to stand up and be counted who was loyal and who didn t for later purposes. but the fact is he s in a position right now where he needs to unify the party and everybody on the line is paying a potential price back home and from the point of view of trying to unify a party this is not what you due, hug each other and saying let s be positive we re moving on. but donald trump is used to walking out of negotiation. if he didn t like a deal, we walked off the deal an moved on and this is what i think he is saying now, we have to get this other with and move on. in the end david, you know the speaker well, you used to work for him. it s his decision not the president s decision, it s paul ryan s decision. it is a decision that paul ryan and mccarthy and the leadership will ultimately make, but this is one you want to have as much team support for making this decision and at least i presume that the stories i saw about the speaker going down to the white house were correct. that was one place you could get everybody with an opinion in the white house same place same time as opposed to calling the president up on the phone and address the decision head on. the president has done everything he can do, with one exception, time. uh-huh. and you can take more time if you so desire and move. is something going to have to happen on health care in the next two years? yes, and everybody working with the president knew this, secretary clinton wanted to do raise taxes. every republican some form or another wanted the market to shift over to the market and that s what we re going to have to have it because aca does not have a long life expectancy here because the costs are going to drive people away. president trump is fooling himself if he thinks he can lose today and just move on like tax reform is going to be a slam dunk, the last time was a very difficult task that involved president reagan s leadership. we re not through with health care. republicans said they would do something about it they campaigned the past seven and a half years through four elections and then have one house vote and then say too bad? there are issues the affordable care act may not be in a death spiral as much as republicans argue, but the congress and white house probably need to address if they refuse to do that who takes the blame for a system that continues to get worse. let s listen to sean spicer explain from his perspective and the speak eaer s perspective wh repeal and replace obamacare comes first. wouldn t it have been wiser to work with the freedom caucus first to work on infrastructure? we talked about this since 2010 and every republican with the exception of probably a handful that they would do everything they could to repeal and replace obamacare and to get in and say hey, you should have done something else wouldn t be fair for the american people who said okay i ll vote for you but i want you to fulfill this pledge. do you feel, david chalian, that the president was really enthusiastic over these past few months since he took office in making sure this was the first issue on the legislative agenda? yeah, i think we ve seen what donald trump looks like when he puts everything on the field, i think we saw that during the campaign in stocome of the dark moments, i know sean said he was doing everything he possibly could. i think there will be a lookback and i don t know that the republican leadership ton the hill feels donald trump did everything he could, so that may be revised and again if indeed the vote goes down this relationship between ryan and trump will be forever changed because of this moment and how they move forward together i think is going to be a really determinative thing for the rest of the agenda. i think when you look at next steps, if this goes down, the question is whether you now need to do things incrementally as oppo opposed to these massive bills a where you do play whack a mole as anderson was saying, and go back to health care and say this needs to be fixed and that needs to be fixed i don t know whether republicans would play on that and dave, you may know more on that than i do, but the question is these massive things given the polarization and the congress will be done anymore this way. it seems almost an impossible task. the roll call of the house of representatives a little more than an hour away, another fight up on capitol hill, this one involving the investigation over the trump campaign s possible ties to russia. you re going to hear what the republican leader of the house intelligence committee did that is now infuriated several members of his committee. this is cnn s special live coverage. snoo another major story unfolding on capitol hill. one is close to donald trump now volunteering to be interviewed by the house intelligence community with ties to russia. stone saying it isn t his bag of tricks, manafort s ukraine, carter page who allegedly advised the trump campaign on foreign policy saying he s also willing to talk. want to bring in manu raju. we are hearing tuesday s hearing has been cancelled? reporter: that s right. that s prompting a lot of concern of people on the committee who believe they should have moved former. former national intelligence committee officials to talk about russian meddling and contacts and any alleged coordination that may have occurred during trump campaign and russian officials, devin nunes said he would not move forward on this because they would have a private classified meeting with james comey, and mike rogers to get briefed going forward but democrats are furious. they believe it s going to prevent the public from getting a clear understanding of what s happening in russia, and adam schiff is joining calls criticizing devin nunes and i asked him if he does not agree with others who believe devin nunes is not fit to sit as chairman. as i said we re we are not going to get in a era because they were mentioned a press story and i am highly concerned about that. to take evidence that may or may not be related to the investigation to the white house was wholly inappropriate and of course cast grave doubts into the ability to run a credible investigation and the integrity of that investigation. do you believe that he can still run this committee or should he step aside? ultimately that s the decision that the speaker needs to make. and i think the speaker has to decide just as well as our own chairman whether they want a credible investigation being done, whether they want an investigation that the public can have confidence in. reporter: now anderson, it is significant that these three former trump advisors have agreed to come forward. nunes said he did not want to bring them forward because he wanted them to voluntarily come forward. and carter says he wants to clear his name and does not believe he s been treated fair by the democrats on this committee, just before coming on air he told me his presence is that he would like to testify in public not in a private setting a because he does not believe that the committee democrats would treat him fairly and says he s tired of these innuendos, page willing to go public, the question is will they agree to have public testimony that may not look so favorably from the trump campaign trying to distance themselves from russia. would this classified briefing be on tuesday and any word on when the next public briefing would be? reporter: we don t know, devin nunes suggested he s still open to a public hearing, did not commit to a day, but a new focus going forward to demand a public hearing, because much of what this committee does is in secret. thank you very much. back now with the panel. i mean, i don t even know where to begin. let me ask you, anderson because you had that amazing interview with carter page. you got to talk to him and he was described as an important policy advisor for the trump campaign. which is why i said allegedly, because the timeline is very strange. then candidate trump was under pressure to kind of name significant people who were his national security team and finally after some delays he came out with five names one he said carter page phd, that seemed to indicate they had met. i talked to carter page who claimed repeatedly in russia and elsewhere that he attended meetings with candidate trump. upon further questioning what carter page meant by meeting he says he was using meeting in the russian term of the word which means he attended rallies that donald trump gave like in bismark, north dakota with 25,000 other meetings and i said does that mean anybody who has been to a rally with donald trump means they have been in a meeting with donald trump? apparently he likes to stick with the russian meaning. you spoke with another former advisor? who feels the same way that you do about the closeness of carter page to donald trump. and we should point out that the campaign itself within a short amount of time started to distance themselves from carter page. and paul manafort, but i spoke with roger stone today who wanted to point out don t forget paul manafort announced this morning he was willing to testify before the committee without a subpoena and very short order also heard from roger stone and carter page and speaking to carter page he made it clear he says he has nothing to hide an wants to clear his name and this letter from his attorney his lawyer says mr. sohn is eager to because of the way he has been portrayed. so now they are ready to testify, some publicly and we will see whether the committee wants to do this. but it is interesting how they are characterizing the relationship with now seems like paul manafort was a bystander. a summer intern. a staffer and certainly carter page as well. one thing i think is interesting, nunes and schiff used to do two different conferences and i think there s clearly some rift there and may need to call for special counsel to come look at this because there s clearly some internal strife there and i think to get to the bottom of this, we have to remember this is all about russian interference and the rest is collateral damage. virtually every democrat on that committee right now is saying just that but you don t really hear that from republicans. and it s interesting because the democrats were playing pretty nice from the beginning they wanted this to be bipartisan, more so on the nat side burr and warner still have a pretty good rapport and it was a matter of time before the dam was going to break on the house side. a lot of people are calling for an independent investigation, but now with these individuals of willing to testify publicly may have a different definition. what s also irritating to the ranking democrat adam schiff is that the is chairman now cancelled an open hearing i think scheduled monday with james clapper either monday or tuesday next week with former director of national intelligence, cia director john brennan, former acting attorney general sally yates and it was going to be an open meeting and now for some reason devin nunes is canceling that. they had a right to object, it s been planned for some days, i think what some draemocrats wanted was to hear from clapper and yates on patterns of how the russians interfered, to set up the narrative of how this unfolds an then to show what the various individuals who have been implicated in all this what they did and how it fit sboos t fits into the narrative, now look, isn t it interesting this american did this, a and this american did this, that s what they were hoping for. and have a right to be angry, but for the three guys who have come forward, they ought to have the chance to come forward. the snares involving presidents speaking out for themselves they may have things to deny, may say they have done nothing wrong, their interests may not be necessarily in line. but they will be under oath, they will be under oath. i don t mean they would be telling a lie, but telling the truth could create problems. who knew what when, which is what people are not focused on, it s the collusion, roger stone certainly alluded to this if there was information previously known about plans to leak the e-mails about the hacking that s a problem whether it s criminal, that s not for me to define. i think part of what s happened is politics has broke up this week in the intelligence house committee. shocking nunes made a mistake and schiff came out and said some things he shouldn t have said. if you want to lower the temperature and work together in a bipartisan fashion, put some time in, calm down, we got a lot of time to go here. all i m saying is take some of that time. it doesn t hurt to take some of that time to sit back down, look at some things and then bring all these people. usually this house intelligence committee, senate intelligence committee there usually is cooperation between the republican and democratic leaders. and they have gotten to a political spin. i m not sure they had the resources to do it to be honest, this investigation has grown and grown and grown, and you ve got members of the senate and house going into vaults at langley looking through thousands of pages of loose leaf notebooks, and seems this undertaking is growing and growing, i m not sure they are ready. the speaker saying he does not have the votes. the vote could happen less than an hour from now. we have a lot to talk about. you re watching cnn s special coverage. in less than one hour the house of representatives will be casting vote os on a critical tt of the trump presidency, will the republicans have the votes the repeal and replace obamacare. congressman, thanks much for joining us. thanks for having me. you re planning to vote in favor of this legislation to repeal and replace obamacare. but what do you think? you ve got your finger over there. is it s going to pass? well, look, it s touch and go, these things tend to be decided at the last minute and we re certainly in that situation, but we will wait for the votes an see what happens. what would be smarter from your perspective if it looks like it s going to fail for the speaker, majority leader to just pull it say we re going to think about it work on it we ll get back to you or let this vote go forward and have an embarrassing defeat. i m not sure about the quote of embarrassing defeat. look, i m a big believer in when you finally schedule something, karr carry it through, the members have lhad a lot of opportunity o participate, i m very proud of what the speaker and president have made. i think they have been representative to all sides but there comes a point on these things when you have to go in and press a button red or green and so my advice would be to go ahead and vote. congressman, it s anderson cooper i was wondering if you could describe the impact that the president has had on the bill? i met with him fairly early about the deputy whip team. he was very knowledgeable about the bill, very engageing, strategic in his thinking, high energy, and said be open to changing the bill, if people bring you a good idea no matter where they re from, take it and work with them, and he s been true to his word and he s excellent in this deal making and consensus making and if it doesn t work out it s not his fault. i think congress has to look at itself. what is the next step if it doesn t work out in terms of repeal and replacing obamacare. well, then you have to move in chunks, we have a chance to get every american covered to get the tax credit designed for their care. ours is going 69% and we re down to a single provider so we don t really have a lot of options but obviously if this solution doesn t work, sit down and try and craft another one. thanks very much for joining us. wolf, may pleasure as always. we will be speaking with a spokesperson from the coke brothers, who are offering to support republicans who vote against this health care bill, our cnn special live coverage continues in just a moment. welcome back, quite a day in a short time the house set to vote on the bill. cnn s phil mattingly is with us what do you hear. reporter: it just doesn t look good, the most interesting element is everything they have tried over the last couple of days has ended up not working or in some cases backfiring, one interesting thing in talking to aides the last couple hours trying to recognize when did the bottom fall out, when did things fall apart? and that s a question we re going to be looking back to if this does indeed fail or gets pulled from the house floor, but i m hearing it s not the conservatives, or the freedom caucus but it s the moderates. and months ago i was told repeatedly keep an eye on them, new jersey, pennsylvania, new york, if they start the flee this thing will go down. that s pretty much exactly how this went down. i ve been told privately a lot of the the tuesday group members are not in line and not coming over in part because of the compromised language they tried to hand out to the conservatives, that leadersh end up going along with, so result of them trying to schiff to thi the conservative side, they didn t bring in tfreedom caucus side, you know it s short and any of the undecided, undeclared what it would do things going forward? we don t know, i can tell you what s what s going around capitol hill g.o.p. sources, that s their biggest concern about what the president wants to do right now, put this on the floor so it s an open question whether or not that s going to happen but as recently as a couple minutes ago, as of right now still scheduled for a vote. we will be watching closely, as soon as you hear anything thank you very much. james davis from freedom partners, a group linked to the coke brothers, you oppose this legislation and you re telling republicans in the freedom caucus and elsewhere if you get punished by voting against it you will come up, freedom partners will come up and help them with money, right? we have seen republicans run on the idea they re going to repeal this an this current legislation does not do that and so we want to stand by those who take position and let them know they re not alone. this doesn t repeal? it doesn t repeal. this keeps all the mandates and regulations in place that have driven up the costs of obamacare premiums over the last several years and also uses the tax credit as a subsidy just virtually indistinguishable from the obamacare subsidies so there s a lot we need to do to fix health care and this bill doesn t do it. if you repeal it then focus on individual solutions bills you can put forward to take care of the vulnerable population that everyone agrees those with preexisting conditions and then push those pieces of legislation through congress, through the legislative process, i think that s a better path. it s not going to be if this goes down it s not going to be another huge bill it s going to be step by step by step? absolutely. that s one of the major criticisms we had with obamacare, from the start, so why do this? we ll get better policy when we focus on individual problems and also more politically palatable. the president, according to sean spicer, we just heard him at the white house briefing says the president has committed everything he can, he understands this is it, this is do or die, if you don t do it now forget about it he says it s over with, you ve got to pass this legislation now, why is the president wrong? because it s more important to get it right than fast, this is an opportunity to get it roog right, so if it doesn t pass they need to go back to the drawing board, and figure out how to put the pieces of legislation together. you are very well plugged in with conservative republicans. what s going to happen? i don t think it s going to pass. it looks like with moderates also jumping ship on this bill that i don t predict that it passes. stay with us, david chalian, yesterday a lot of people were pretty upbeat those who liked the legislation believed the president would get it done but today met with pes michl. mike pence described what was an intense meeting with the freedom caucus left the meeting tight lap lipped nipped. all david. david gergen. and the idea that jim is talking about is makes good sense but you have to understand one thing about it, all that will be done under regular order which means you will need 60 sen votes in the senate. people supporting that strategy has to understand that s what it mean, this will not be done in regulation, you have to do it in constrictive regulations, and you have to physical the byrd rule. is there a concern that the president will feel burned? the president has talked about moving on already talked about wishes maybe he had done infrastructure or tax reform, is it possible he will want to move on? i think he s told us a while, he said if we lose this we ought to just live with obamacare, of course that isn t good for the country, if this goes down you re going to live with obamacare and let it go into a death spiral, that s what they expect. i actually think that would give the democrats an opening and they could come forward, we re delighted we saved obamacare we know there s problems and we would like you the republicans to work with the fixes and make sure it doesn t go in the death spiral so when the republicans refuse to do that as they will, the democrats can say when it does go into a death spiral they can say we tried to work with you, who is going to be left with the tail on the donkey? the public. well, i agree with that. the voters wanted changes wanted something done and now not getting anything. they don t like this bill. well, i was just going to talk about that because the recent polling shows this bill has a 17% approval rating, so if you re a member of congress do you want to kind of walk over that cliff voting for a bill that has a 17% approval rating and i know we go district by district by district and some won by an overwhelming margin they can clearly make their case but if you are a moderate republican and these essential health benefits ten essential health benefits have been eliminated from the bill like maternity benefits, substance abuse, mental health coverage, you re never going to vote for this, no matter what donald trump hold on, we re getting closer and closer to the actual vote. we are now hearing from key conservatives who president has been courting, brand new sound coming in from the freedom caucus, that and a lot more right after this.
because australia is the one, they don t want those. that s why they made the deal with obama. obviously they are being hypocrites, okay. but when i heard tough phone call, let me tell you about some tough phone calls i ve made. if you had to call a girl and say it s burning down there. look, at the end of the day, i think that trump is hilarious, watching him every time he speaks, it s a very entertaining endeavor. but to be honest with you, i feel like he is the only guy who has a prank answering machine on his cell phone. you call and you get his answering machine and he does that hello, hello, hello. just kidding, you got the president. that s all it got say about tha that. tom: kristin, what do you think, do you think we should have to honor every deal, this thing was assigned just before trump took office. most politicians say we have to honor all of our agreements. these people are not our problem. australia doesn t want them, the days are over of us being pushovers and allowing everyone to take advantage of us. america was the big kid that just sat there getting poked over and over, everyone kept poking us and we never poked them back. now guess what, we re standing up and we are saying enough. tom: even if he honors the deal, whatever, at least he pushed back a little. president trump is feuding with australia and an austrian. on thursday while speaking at the national prayer breakfast, the president took a jab at the ratings of the new celebrity apprentice. the show s creator, mark burnett was sitting just a few feet away. we had a tremendous success on the apprentice, and when i ran for president, had to leave the show. that s when i knew for sure i was doing it. they hired a big movie star, arnold schwarzenegger to take my place. we know how that turned out. the ratings went right down the tubes. it s been a total disaster. mark will never, ever bet against trump again. i want to just pray for arnold if we can. he s president. tom: it s a nice sentiment, he wanted to pray for him. arnold schwarzenegger responded with a twitter video. hey donald, i have a great idea. why don t we switch jobs. you take over tv, since you re such an expert in ratings, i take over your job, because people can finally speak comfortably again. tom: luis, trump keeps slamming arnold, but do you think this is all a plot to raise the ratings, he still a producer on the show. very smart move, we are all talking about it. i like arnold schwarzenegger s idea. how about i come the president and you can be a terminator. it s unbelievable. dave and i are outraged. jimmy, look, don t tell me you haven t done the voice on stage. when things got rough and i need an emergency brake laugh, i don t have arnold in me. we should all just to this whole in arnold voice. who isn t sleeping comfortably if arnold isn t president. a woman on a date with bill cosby still isn t sleeping comfortably with arnold as no one, is he out of his mind? shut up! tom: the guy had to go terms as governor of the governor of california. i did a little arnold there. if trump gets in a fight with christopher walking, you re in. jimmy nailed it on the head, you see the lack of self-awareness of arnold schwarzenegger. agro aggressions, by the way. it that one wasn t bad. that was ronnie. tom: kristin, let s hear your arnold schwarzenegger impression. i am arnold schwarzenegger. that s what it s like to be a hot woman. well done. we all said it was awesome. tom: kristin. that is a problem with comedy. look what happens here. everyone is acting like trump, look, he s the reality show president. everybody else does the same thing. he s got his twitter video, they all answer him quickly, right? trump is better at both the things, he is better at politics and he s better at tv and he went into that with zero experience. i m sure it arnold schwarzenegger wants to be president, but nobody wants him and technically you can t be president in this country if you weren t born here. besides barack obama. jimmy, i don t even remember, did i go to you yet in this segment customer who even knows if he did. people say trump is so thin-skinned, always has to acknowledge the stuff, i don t think that s what it is. i think he s competitive. i think he is a relentlessly competitive guy who can t let any slight go. he isn t thin-skinned, he s michael jordan and that if you knew michael jordan, you beat him in something he would insist on a rematch. what trump can t do is not hit back. we see mr. the entire campaign. if usace and the about his hands he has to respond. he has to hit back. he has a sense of humor, too. he was laughing, that s why everyone loves him. arnold should stick to what he s doing best, which is knocking up maids. what was that end? tom: moving on. violent protests directed at uc berkeley after a planned event featuring milo yiannopoulos. they were at least willing to debate a trump supporter who shows up. our cbs station spoke with a trump supporter who was drowned out by protesters on live tv. [sirens] tom: the next morning, trump tweeted what could have given the president of that idea? maybe he was watching fox and friends first and saw a conservative hero todd starnes state this. president trump should immediately issue an executive order blocking berkeley students from getting federal funding. free speech for all or no federal money, not a single taxpayer penny, period. did he get the president to take action quester mark i m not surprised, because that s the power dave? it seemed like a bit of a stretch to me, the power of starnes. tom: he watches it every day and he practically quoted him. i meant to the gimmick in the song. tom: we wrote it. we ve got to use it if we ve got it. this is, you are totally into, this is your thing. i believe in free speech, i really don t using the power of federal money to influence speech, necessarily. it s kind of weird. it s like fighting communism with fascism, which always works out well for the people. tom: why cut these people a check? they never should have been cutting them a check to begin with, probably. what is happening is the left is being exposed. what really bums me about this is the most privileged thing you could possibly do. who do you think is cleaning up this mess, billionaires? it s literally some poor person who has to come along and clean this up. tom: good point. kristin, i say they re not fulfilling their duty. they have a charter, they re supposed to be about open minds and ideas, they re not doing it. cut off the money. exactly, i m so glad that trump is coming in there and slaying this political correctness that s just disgusting. if these universities will not protect free speech, and if they re going to tolerate violence against conservatives, then yes, take away their funding. if they don t like it they can go to the supreme court and they can decide whether they get the funding. she smells amazing, she can do whatever she wants. tom: they re out of control control. he wants to give a speech, they started with him. a homosexual, can you believe it? i thought of a solution. who s going to clean up that mess, right? not the privilege, not the billionaires. those refugees from australia. them over. tom: i see what you did there. have them clean up the mess. tom: give a job, right? it s funny, it works. tom: i m trying to keep this show on the air, here. whose side are you on? this is where my two big issues are. they made my lowe s speech and his web content and his archival content, probably not necessarily more appealing but more visible to the rest of the country by doing this. before they burned down berkeley nobody knew he was speaking there. they just ample fight his impressed. this is where i do have a spec for them, though. that s an almost impossible protests to organize, because there s no way you can get his last name past your spell check. they started sending that text a month and a half ago. a yogurt and such? tom: it s all coming, this is a boon for milo, they ve got a book coming out. they said they were going to boycott the publisher. it s going to be a bestseller. if you were his publicist you could not have paid for better publicity than he s gotten. this is unintentional, but the craziest thing to me about milo is that he s not even that radical. milo supports people like rudy giuliani, if you get down to it he s kind of a middle-of-the-road republican. he just completely unapologetic about it. it s a conservative who s not coming in and saying he knows his narrative has been over presented. he s unapologetic, like an anarchist libertarian. if you re offended by this guy, you don t want to know what i believe. tom: a black conservative, a gay conservative messes with them. anybody who s a remember of a protected class. caitlyn jenner was a sacred deity of america on the vanity fair cover and now it nobody will acknowledge her. is there was a point where she was so sacred that she could kill someone with her suv, but now she s a republican so she s done. tom: the conservative politics. coming up, does this look like a man you can trust with your secrets western ? find out what trumps former doctor revealed about the president next. live it from america s news headquarters, i m jackie ibanez in new york. the trump administration may be striking an upper line with israel. now warning the prime minister that settling may not be helpful to middle east peace efforts. until now he has appeared sympathetic to their cost. the administration is claiming they have not taken an official position yet, in response israel s ambassador says it s too early or to tell how it might affect future building. there s also word out of washington, the white house is preparing to chiron after it testfired a ballistic missile. as many as two dozen around the individuals, companies, and possibly government agencies could be penalized. another night of violence at an american college campus. new york city, police are out in forces. gavin mcginnis was invited to attend a seminar by campus or publicans, protesters showed up to voice their displeasure. on wednesday night you may remember uc berkeley was protested following a planned a speech by milo yiannopoulos, breitbart editor. the school was forced to cancel. secretary of education, public and lawmakers say they are fed up with democratic delays. republicans are confident they have the 51 votes needed to end the debate, if so she could win confirmation by monday. i m jackie ibanez, now back to red eye. for all of your headlines, log on to foxnewstv.com. music him tom: the doctor is in capable of keeping secrets. president trump s longtime physician told all to the new york times , revealig medical secrets of our new president. the doctor says trump takes three different medications. an antibiotic to treat rosacea, something to lower his cholesterol, and something to treat male pattern baldness. he has all his hair, i have all my hair. other fun facts revealed by the physician, some called dr. jekyll well probably high. come on guys, that was a good one. he hates the fun made of him. and he says, i am probably the only person who has every phone number for him and all the wives . this disclosure could come back to haunt dr. bornstein. reporter tweeted tom: a lot of old guys take all these drugs, no big secrets. you can go out and give people s medical history. tom: they were begging for more of it. i don t pay attention to the laws, i have no idea what hippos do and why they have laws. i m not going to sit here and always bash trump. they shouldn t be giving his medical information out. he takes stuffer his hair, right that says it s on the his confident. i m bald, women like this. am i wrong or am i right, kristin? thank you very much. just let it go and show the world he s a confident man, now that we know this little tidbit about him i m questioning his confidence. tom: a lot of his personality comes from the hair. there s nothing wrong with taking, a lot of guys take this drug, what the stuff you rub on your head, rogaine. people are obsessed with his hair, i don t know what s on his head and i don t care. people are just jealous. they are jealous of his money, there jealous of his hair. frankly, i don t care what s on his head as long as he secures the border, brings jobs back and blows isis the hell up. i care about was on his hair. i don t care what the borders so much. tom: what about the doctor? is this unethical? the thing that strikes me is that before they were saying look at this crazy doctor, he s not revealing anything, he sent out that one sheet that that is really healthy, and now he s in tremendous health. he s dr. trump, trump found his own trump. you would think a doctor, even when i saw the article, i thought he told all the prescriptions that he was on, he might get in trouble for this. doctors can t just do that, it literally is such a trump thing, he was making a point about how great both of their hair was. he got lost on the fact that oh, yeah, i m a medical doctor. tom: they don t care, these doctors, they don t think there s anything embarrassing when taking a few drugs, right? you know i deduce from watching this, this is a guy that s definitely sold a few prescription pads on the side. e with the right and wrong in terms of divulging that information, could you look at a picture of that guy and tell me he hasn t moved some adderall on craigslist? all i did was skim to the bottom of the article for a phone number or email. a call from a girl on roller blades. tom: just because he has a laid-back look, he doesn t look with a manhattan doctor, he looked like he should be in long beach or something. i think he s an upstanding guy, a good doctor, but the thing is, they always make people reveal everything. they want to see all the taxes, they want to see the medical reports, we were calling for hillary s medical stuff, right? did we ever get them? we got her taxes. boring taxes. i think we had a bigger write to her medical reports than we did it trumps taxes? sheep fainted on 868-degree day. they come in the form of youtube videos. i get them for my dad. she respects hippo law. tom: coming up, have halft with tv s andy levy. a brand-new episode of the red eye podcast is a babel, subscribe on to be 27. hose placp changing every few months. the quicksilver card from capital one doesn t do any of that. with quicksilver you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. leave complicated behind. what s in your wallet? so we sent that sample i doff to ancestry. i was from ethnically. my ancestry dna results are that i am 26% nigerian. i am just trying to learn as much as i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it s a hat, but it s like the most important hat i ve ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. calls. jimmy, you said he is doing it grandpa stuff. i think tough phone calls are totally fine, but being a [bleep] to one of our staunchest military allies doesn t strike me as a good idea. i like of a lot of what he s done, but i didn t like the execution. i thought the hysteria of the muslim a band, 40 countries are still allowed to come. they could ve better emac done a better job of clarifying the green card situation. this is what i do like, it s cool to have some but he this competitive fighting on behalf of us. i hated roger clemens, but i like having that tough s ob throwing chin music on everybody else. andy: my problem is that i hate the red sox and the yankee yankees. dave, you said this is a good chance for trump to prove he doesn t just take brown immigrants and kristin pointed out that these are mostly muslims. the ones in australia, she is correct, they are from entries like iran, afghanistan, pakistan, iraq, some only a period on the other hand, kristin, like trump, you refer to these people as illegal immigrants, they are not, they are refugees. andy, i would expect fake news from cnn but not from you. put your pink hat and your vagina costume on and go protest with the other snowflakes. there is andy: they are still refugees. not illegal immigrants. tom: that s your call. andy: that s not my call. they came to australia andy: i don t want to go through this but we did the other night, all you need to do is go look it up. they are actually refugees. tom: they came in many different ways to australia. andy: they are in a refugee camp. tom: they are banning them. andy: they are refusing to take them as refugees. i looked it up on breitbart. tom: they are illegally coming to the country. australia won t even let them to the country, they re keeping them in a detention center on an island. andy: i understand that, they are refugees. keep saying that word. andy: i will, it s accurate. if were going to talk about fake news, let s not call people illegal immigrants who aren t illegal immigrants. trump and arnold schwarzenegger. tom, you said arnold had to go terms as governor of california. i don t recall him at being all that popular when he left. tom: he wasn t. he wasn t popular in the first term. i don t how he won reelection. he was the most popular refugee to ever be governor. that s why they need to shut up, how can you do that, how can you elect trump, you elected kindergarten cop twice. andy: i voted for gary coleman. i m not even kidding. he should have stayed in, you would have one. andy: did you say it arnold schwarzenegger impressions are hack and follow it up with a bill cosby joke? that s not how it went down. we were trashing before we went on the air and then a luis went big. he did clarify. andy: kristin, your arnold schwarzenegger impressions onto the little bit like young frankenstein. thank you. andy: dave, how dare you suggest the power of starnes is a stretch. i was clearly beaten for that. andy: just rude. tom and kristin, you both applauded trump for his tweet. berkeley didn t stop milo from speaking or say he didn t speak there, he was supposed to be speaking there. the school condemned the violence that cause the cancellation of the speech. it trump s tweet made no sense. now explain to me why i am wrong. fake news! they canceled the event, is that what he s is speaking to. andy: they canceled the event because of violence. andy, did you read a andy: they didn t say milo can t speak here, they scheduled him to speak. if you read this statement of the university put out, before all this happen, it said we don t agree with milo. we re going to allow him to speak. they basically said we don t agree with him, which fueled this hatred, and kind of gave a path to these people to burn it down the campus. they aligned themselves with these protesters, they shouldn t be taking a political stance. that is the problem, these education institutions are becoming political. anybody who has extreme views, wouldn t they kind of come and say this is the view of the school. the school shouldn t have the view, period. it s getting federal tax dollars. they re dissociating themselves from of you, they re doing what you re saying. they shouldn t be disassociating or associating with any of you, it should be an open campus. andy: jimmy, you pointed out that the protesters who made him more visible. the people who peacefully protested, but the people who turned violent suck for turning in violent, and for giving him free p.r., and most importantly getting me bumped from tucker carlson s show one night. that s a blow to me. andy: trump s doctor. [laughter] andy: i don t have anything here, i just love this picture. i love that he shops from the boss hog collection. andy: i could literally stare at that all day. luis, that you said they shouldn t be giving trump s medical information out, tom you keep saying he they yelled at the doctor for not giving out enough information in the past. luis is right, without trump s permission, they shouldn t be giving this out. tom: what is the new york times doing visiting this guy? they shouldn t let him in. you re probably right about that. andy: kristin, i enjoyed your reaction to luis here. do we have the video? i m bald, women like this, , and i write kristin? you re right. andy: the side i was fantastic. [laughter] andy: i do have to say, i m quoting from the piece, at times in the interview dr. bornstein was moody, saying it was none of their business to later volunteering facts. i love this guy. but then if you read the whole piece to the end, it s really sad, he said he was invited to the inaugural but it wasn t as pleasant an experience to demand as he expected, he had to walk a long way to his spot and he thought there would be a chair, but he thought there would be no chair, he stood behind a tree never heard anyone speak because i was so on come double from my back . he really got the hook up. andy: it s so sad. oppose your heartstrings. andy: it really does. i m dumb. tom: thank you, andy. coming up, could hate be that key to finding love? i bet you d hate-love to know. when a cold calls. achoo! .answer it. with zicam cold remedy. it shortens colds, so you get better, faster. colds are gonna call. answer them with zicam! zicam. get your better back. now in great tasting crystals. any attack on the united states or on our allies will be defeated with any use of nuclear weapons. the united nations security council now looking into reports increasing violence in eastern ukraine. russia s ambassador to the u.n. claims ukraine is provoking the latest surge of violence, the u.s. and ukraine blame russia. the sudden increase in fighting in eastern ukraine has trapped thousands of civilians and are destroyed vital infrastructure. of the crisis is spreading, endangering messy thousands more. this escalation of violence must stop. to avoid further civilian sufferings is rather simple. the international community needs to step up pressure on the aggressor and urge russia to get out of ukraine. the u.n. is calling on the international community to get piece documents to the ukraine and yet russian separatist back on track. u.n. monitors report more than 10,000 explosions in a recent 24-hour period, the highest ever. nordstrom says it will no longer sell ivanka trump s clothing and accessories. they would not say that it was a permanent decision, only that decisions were made each season. the statehouse has designated a stretch of interstate 55. i am jackie ibanez, back to red eye. tom: can hate to bring people together? a new dating app is launching next week that launches people based on their mutual dislikes, it s called hater. it s a swipe-based apps, i think the first one ever. there are over 100 topics right now. users swipe down for hate come up for love, right for like and left for a dislikes, or opt out for neutral. while the idea started as a joke, it s actually backed up by science. studies have found that people bond moreover shared and negative attitudes than a shared positive ones, jimmy does that make sense to you? every shopping experience you ve ever had, you have 899% chance of making friends over a slow cashier or a woman paying by check, as opposed to hate, that guy is really begging these groceries. my first thought when i saw this app is wow, now will finally find some use of that ashley judd speech from the women s march, i think everyone will agree that s a low point from humanity. i kind of like it, to be honest. i think you could really help racist as well. if you re in the kkk, just swipe left on black people. it s a simple way to connect with other racist people. tom: i m sure they have their own app for that. called okkkcupid. the guy who runs a company, he s watching the show and luis says it s great, great publicity, and then luis says hey if you re in the kkk . nobody is posting positive things, i hate this, i hate that, this is a tone of this country that fits perfectly and with the way everybody handles social media. even before the age of social media, the long marriages, the long-lasting relationships always built on hate. isn t that what always kept them together? this makes complete sense, because there is nothing more satisfying than sitting with someone and bashing something you both hate. like obama. i could listen to someone to bash obama for hours, if you hate the same things it s probably likely that you both love the same things, for example i hate obama and hillary clinton, so i find that i enjoy being around people who also hate them because they love trump. tom: wouldn t you rather, i think you want to find someone, you want to look for positive qualities first and then get together and complain with them. you don t want to start there, kristin, am i right question work no. tom: you want to start with the negative? yes. tom: guys don t care about any of the stuff, they only want to look at looks. weather were telling you we love stuff or hate stuff, we re just yapping until we get to see you naked. tom: so no at least one side it doesn t care. people will say they hate anybody. guys want to get laid, there s no app that can cure that problem. this is a marketing tool, people are talking about it, there s really no difference, nobody reads the little profiles anyway. have you ever swept up to go read the profile? is she hot, yeah. is she hot, yeah. i just skim for the word transgender and if i don t find that tom: get ready for lonely orangutans, a new tender like app is coming just for you. mating. things don t always go well. research are struggling to find a tablet that the orangutan can break. to be fair to her, it must be infuriating when all your potential matches keep sending you nudes. of course, before the internet chimps use to meet their mates on dating hotlines. good boy, hang that phone up. [laughter] hang it up. always funny to me. [laughter] tom: i guess that wasn t a match made in heaven. thanks to america s funniest home videos for that clip, i wanted to give them credit. the sad thing is that monkey went on to rip that woman s face off. tom: that was a different video. dave, do you think this is going to work? america s funniest home videos, yeah, it s been going on for decades. tom: for the orangutan. you know, i have high hopes. i ve always wondered what it is in their minds when the mating doesn t work out. and they bring them back in there like nothing happened, no, he s totally racist. apes are picky. tom: they need a match, too. it works for humans, they have to let them choose. it s just technology letting the apes choose. this is an innovative, out-of-the-box idea and i love it. what is the worst that could happen, you put the two monkeys in a cage, they don t like each other, they throw, that s the end of it, it s a win-win. either we get baby orangutans or we learn a valuable lesson which is that tinder does not work for monkeys. tom: we may learn. i m not going to lie, i just read the headline to this article. it s very important when her trying to match orangutans with human beings. i think the plot of outbreak. i thought it was a terrible idea when i wrote my notes, why would we do this, i believe were going to spread some sort of communicable diseases. turns out i was wrong. tom: we ve got to go. instead of curious george, we now have by curious george. tom: that s it, good night, everybody. i m glad i waited. next.