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Issue. we've come together on the committee to work together to do what's right for the sake of right and it's not that we're talking about little minor things here. when this inspector general report came out, this is systemic. when you find out you asked for information for 18 months and not on individual cases here but trends that were developing, this report says this is a nationwide problem and there were people that sat around a table and figured out how to manipulate with these numbers and cook these books. this is way bigger than a tiny announcement today from a guy who has been in cha...

Athena jones is at the white house following this story for us. athena, the big question, what will happen at the white house, what will their talk be about? did eric shinseki say enough at this homeless veterans coalition to save his job? eric shinseki is not the only one speaking out this morning. the president was on michael and kelly this morning -- "kelly and michael" and spoke about how big and serious this problem is. let's take a listen. >> i'll have a serious conversation with him about whether he thinks that he is prepared and has the capacity to take on the job of fixing it. i don't...

Accepting a resignation or allowing him to continue the problem even though there's only a few years left in this administration. >> reporter: i think if you look at what happened with hhs secretary kathleen sebelius, that could be illustrated, could give us a hint as to how the administration could handle this. they left secretary sebelius in place even as that disaster rouse rollout of healthcare.gov was on going. there were many, many problems with that. they kept her in place so she could be there to fix the problems. once the system looked like it was on track, when they met and surpassed...

Veterans, he outlined the steps they made to bring that down to 24% over the past three years. that gives indication of some problem that he was able to help fix. certainly secretary shinseki has a plan that he's begun to lay out for trying to turn this around. the question is going to be whether the president wants to stick with him during this time and replace it later or replace him right now. >> we may find out soon. they're meeting at 10:15 eastern time, just under an hour from now. i want to thank barbara starr, athena jones, erin mcpike and drew griffin. eric shinseki smoking out moment...

2013 that people were dieing on wait lists. wait list data numbers were being fudged, that the government's own reports showed for years that the va's reporting data was flawed. so while i feel sorry in a way for this general than for the first time in 38 years, he is being lied to by his underlings, i think the information was there, ready available in the public for him to have seen this crisis coming and done something much more proactively than waiting till this crisis developed in phoenix which now could lead to his job. >> drew, the president has been saying, i need to see more informati...