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Morning Joe

a significant offer on the table. we urge the russians to take it. i can tell you that i talked to paul whelan on monday. he called me from russia and we had a chance to catch up and we talked about evan's case, frankly. but we talk to his family all the time, it's constant communication, and i want to echo what you just said, paul whelan is still front and center in this administration's mind and we'll find a way to get paul whelan and evan home >> let's hope they both and others come home as quickly as possible presidential envoy for hostage affairs, roger carstens, thank you for your time this morning senator klobuchar, bring you back into the conversation we can pick it up there by this tactic used by vladimir putin in russia to snatch americans, frankly. to kidnap americans and hold them as bargaining chips in the case of brittney griner, he got the merchant of death, victor booth, the international terrorist back to russia what is your sense of the kind of negotiations or the kind of leverage that the united states even has to get these americans

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united states. if you're negotiating with germany or with the uk, you're just not going to get the same level of possibility of getting somebody back in return as you do if you're negotiating with washington and perhaps, that rule of not leaving anybody behind is felt more here in the united states than it is in other european countries. maybe some other european countries are a little bit more hardheaded when it comes to getting people back and they won't give people up we saw that germany, for example, when the u.s. wanted germany to release somebody in return for brittney griner, the germans said, no, we're not going to do that, we're not going to do that for america it's messy and everybody is aware that you perpetuate something that you don't want to perpetuate when you do give a prisoner up in return that was my immediate thought when evan was taken, well, they won with brittney griner and they've tried it again that's the thinking in moscow. >> and by the way, victor booth, that merchant of death, has been online this week, encouraging

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The ReidOut

sentence, she had nine. congresswoman, really appreciate you. if you are in touch with the family, we would love to have you come back on with a member of the family. it's bring in the executive director of the mccain institute and hopefully you were able to hear the congresswoman, evalyn. this victor boot piece of it, the republicans are pretending that they care about this case. according to reports, while he was incarcerated, he said this to the russian kremlin today, this is what he said -- >> he was in a sort of red part of illinois, and he found that the right wing fellow

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The ReidOut

election deniers, and probably thinking january 6th was a picnic. we tried to get both, even to the extent of having someone in the back pocket that it could be two for two. this is a desperate, vicious leader, killing people in ukraine, incarcerating and locking up russians who oppose the war. and we had start and stop. start and stop, start and stop. and everyone should know that vladamir putin asked for victor booth, who is a murderer, held in germany. let me say this. no one knows the story of paul -- of the weapons dealer, if you will. and as the facts would tell them. he was sentenced to 25 years, he served 11 to 16 years, i can't remember the exact number. but in actuality, his weapons

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might have been used to kill americans. he has not killed americans. i'm not saying he's not a nasty, bad guy. but i will tell you that i believe that americans should know that the sovereignty of their nation will always be behind them and they will never be forgotten. brittney griner deserved this fight, so does paul whelan. and we will be introducing legislation when they -- it was putin who said, you take this deal, joy, or you get nothing. i wish these republicans, who are about to take leadership in the house, would begin to tell the truth to the american people. because maybe we might get one bipartisan action done if they would learn to tell the truth. >> trevor reed has been very critical of the republicans, because they didn't do anything to help him either. and i believe that victor boot had six more years left on his

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