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in trying to pull out his experience and wisdom, because i know it is there. that's what you're going to see tonight in our discussion with ron klain, which amounts to his last word exit interview, as he prepares to leave white house chief of staff. and he has served, as you know, as the longest serving first chief of staff to democratic president ever. and we're going to have some of that discussion, to begin with news of the day tonight. >> well, it is such an important interview. the time he spent in the white house from the aftermath of january 6th to the conclusion of the januar...

Under oath. Cohen is the last prosecution witness and the question that remains this morning, what, if anything defense will trumps legal team mount . Nbcs Yasmin Vossoughian is outside that courthouse. I also want to bring in our legal panel, former u. S. Attorney and former senior fbi official Chuck Rosenberg, new York Law School professor and director of the schools criminal defense clinic. Ana coe min ski and criminal Defense Attorney and former federal prosecutor duncan levins. There was a little bit of uncertainty this morning in court, a long Bench Meeting before the Cross Examination g...

it's saturday, december the 9th. i'm ali velshi. we begin this hour with a new threat to democracy from donald trump and the active measures that he and his acolytes are taking the follow-through on them. a stolen trump campaigns for second term in the white house while facing dozens of criminal charges that imperil his freedom, he has made it explicitly clear that he intends to bend the american government to his will if he returns to power. the whole political apparatus already exists that is ready to go. its members are even talking about these plans right out on the open. donald ...

brink of a constitutional crisis, at least once. eroded americans faith and democracy and shattered peoples trust in the electoral system. yet, despite all of that, a significant portion of the electorate still believes that he deserves another four years in the white house. trump has made it clear that he's running a campaign of retribution and vengeance, promising to enact hard-line policies that could run afoul of the law and even saying that he wouldn't be a dictator, except for on day one. that's a direct quote. he's already plenty of reports out there about the kinds of dracon...

presented with evidence about what happened, and she came to the conclusion that he falls into the category of those who would be disqualified, but for the fact of the office that he seeks, or the office that he once held and the oath that he took. and so i think that's relevant. certainly, maybe not in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion, the idea that this looks like insurrection and he looks like an insurrectionist, i think is very relevant. >> thank you to both of you. i actually have a lot more to discuss with you, but this is the way things go these days. melissa...