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the georgia congressional candidate who just walked off the stage in the middle of a debate all right 6:00 a.m. here in washington alive. look at the us capitol on this tuesday morning good morning, everyone and kasie hunt. it s wonderful to have you with us samuel alito s private beliefs apparently exposed in a secretly recorded audio tape, the conservative supreme court justice seeming to endorse a fight to return our country to a place of godliness and quote it was a liberal activist and filmmaker who secretly recorded the justice and his wife at a supreme court historical society dinner earlier this month people in this country, we re leaving that, keep fighting to return our country to a place the bottling names. i agree with important to underscore during that dinner, the activists misrepresented herself. she claimed to be a religious conservative the executive director of the supreme court historical society issued this statement on monday saying, quote, we condemn any sort surreptitious recordings of justice s at the event which is inconsistent with the entire spirit of the evening. attendees are advised that discussion of current cases, cases decided by current sitting justices or justices, jurors, pure prudence is strictly prohibited and may result in forfeiture of membership in the society earlier. in the conversation, the activist told alito that she didn t think that the right could negotiate with the left. here was his response one. side or the, other. there can be a way of working, our way of living together it s different because they re differences fundamental things that really can t comment so it s not like you re going to see what the difference a little hard to hear their finals here. molly ball, senior political correspondent at the wall street journal, meghan hayes, former special assistant to president biden, and matt gorman, the former senior adviser to the tim scott presidential campaign. welcome to all of you molly ball. this of course, i think underscores the pressure that alito is at the moment in our highly charged political environment where the justices are about to decide whether or not donald trump is immune in the january 6 case clearly, he s in a situation where he is responding in the affirmative to someone he is encountering at a party and yet the remarks are still illuminating in terms of how he thinks about things. yeah. i mean, i think as you said on the one hand, we ve all done the thing where someone approaches you that you don t know and you just kinda play along. you just sort of say you re agreeing with whatever it is that they re saying. i m either end it s no surprise to anyone that he s a conservative right, and that he does view, society as, as somewhat corrupted by a lack of godliness or i wouldn t be surprised to hear him say any of those things in a judicial opinion for example. so it s all pretty broadly consistent with the judicial philosophy and the political philosophy that we know that he subscribes to. i think also the fact that the recording is coming out tells you that increasingly the supreme court is being treated as another political branch of government. the people are sending trackers after them basically like they would with a political candidate monitoring their every utterance and looking through it for potentially damaging or politically useful bits of audio that, that can be used against them in what s essentially become a full-time political campaign. and that i think as we and others have reported, has contributed to a very high level of tension and division on the court itself has made it increasingly difficult to function. yeah, it s it s speaking of division on the court itself. i mean in this highly fraught moment that we find ourselves in as a country where there does seem to be this kind of looming question about violence. certainly we have had more violence in our politics in recent years than we had seen in another monitor campaigns with what happened on january 6, john roberts was also approached by this activist and he approached this very differently and it underscores a little bit of tension on the court as molly was just touching on. again, john roberts, appointed by george w bush. he is the chief justice. he is also a conservative but has carved out a much different kind of role for him self on the court. so when he was approached by this activist and some of these same themes of godliness. the question i believe was is the us a christian nation? here s how john roberts responded since i put here a little 20 years, i ve been quieter times but the idea that the court is in the middle of a lot of tumultuous stuff going on. that s nothing new. the civil war, we did that very vietnam. you people getting killed and i was there. this is all right. i mean, it s it s not all right. but it s not like it s dramatic medically different people that s a common thing. people, their own perspective like this is so slow ordinary i don t know. heed the christian nation question. robert s actually responded that he has jewish friends, muslim friends who might disagree with that. he went on to talk about it a little bit, but megan haze, there. he was saying he was talking about other cataclysmic periods in our history, the civil war vietnam basically saying that we re going to be all right in the end. what is your view of all of this? and the way it s an unfolded, but particularly this difference between alito roberts here. yeah. i mean, i do think that we re gonna be all right. our democracy is built to survive and hopefully it will survive regardless of who wins the election in november. but i do think that there is a difference here, and i think that there was a difference. if you listen to alito s wife and how she responds and her reaction system of the questions that she got are also extremely stark. and so just just goes to show how these justices are thinking and how that they are forming their opinions. and it is, it is quite different and it is jarring when you hear their responses. let s listen to a little bit of what martha alito also who was approached by the same activist again, here s a little bit of what she had to say you know what i want i want sacred heart of jesus flag because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. exactly and he s like, oh, please don t put several my heritage come after me away. it doesn t have to be away. debris don t worry about it okay. she also said that justice alito doesn t control her at one point. but you don t seem to admit their that he did ask her not to put up a flag in this case. definitely go we put the flag up let me look at this whole thing. i saw on twitter the person lauren windsor put up, that this is gonna be a big undercover storage tweeted out, tease that out. before it came out. and then when it came out like this, this is what this is. i mean, this was the same person that was the one reported by the intercept who sent the kind of democratic activists to charlottesville, dresses neo-nazi would tiki torches to kind of stand outside the glenn youngkin s yvette. but with the lincoln project. so i m not getting i m not surprised by this, but i will say that i think a lot of what molly said his right. it s also just his religious philosophy makes no bones that he s a devout christian now, i was at church over the weekend and a lot of those same themes. it s country but more about the world gold and sin and godliness. those same themes or what kinda prevalent. church, i m really not surprised. i mean, i think that the piece of it that i really i got caught on was where he seems to go on and say that there may not be a way to resolve these differences ever, which i suppose is part of what you re saying. i mean, it s it s again, i think we stepped back from the politics of it. i think the way the christians look at it is sin and whatever faith i m not putting it very eloquently. the priesthood better job in his homily over the weekend. but but no, i think that is more of the way that he was talking about it for me again, he s devout christian. i don t really see what the the big thing is, megan, but these people, i just think our supreme court justices sort of need to rise above this. and i agree with molly that like we ve all been in a situation where you just like nod and say, but he went further and then when his wife s comments, it just shows that like they re they re not viewing themselves as above and making laws for our country. it was his faith like it was not, it was not about politics. they re talking to say, it also she was goading him. she would want to introduce scholarliness into it. she was the one that he s just agreeing. yeah, i agree. like it s these ideas weren t germinated on their own. she was leading him. i don t agree with what she did. i think it s terrible and i think both sides do it and i think it s awful. i don t think we d be putting a lot more women pre haven t talked about project verisign s 09 and rightfully so i m fine, but the amount of media saturation i didn t read the new york times is covering this now it s ridiculous. who would never do this. it was james o keefe and practice, but that s not true. but i just think we owe nine we haven t done a sense so charade with acorn, that was the last time we actually my diary. i think we all project or testis sorry, because very, very different when there was a negative garrett ziegler who is sitting in court that clearly act when there was a new york times article on straight reporting, what was it ashley biden s journal. i don t remember it. like there was with this. i will be honest in this particular question, but i do think the big picture here. i mean, i think you guys are actually both an agreement what people should do is not correct this you know, i just i think molly to the big picture point this really underscores even farther just the significance of the moment that we are facing as a country, the role of the supreme court in our politics. it s been historically viewed as an institution that s supposed to be above all this i think those of us who cover this realize it s been political for awhile, but now the country is really starting to see that. all right, coming up next, donald trump meets with probation officers while his campaign asks potential vp candidates if they ever committed a crime. plus the dog days arriving early, millions of americans facing sweltering heat in this this is where i get back in my trunk and head make the southwest georgia. the congressional candidate who walked off the stage and went home in the middle of a debate hey, guys, i got spoken about got it right up do, we, have one to leave works all day? so i can keep working to take just one 12 hours of uninterrupted pain-related i ll leave you do you take it for and for fast topical pain relief, child leave x. this is a freemium hand 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the virtual interview and was described as polite, respectful, and accommodating to the probation officers. that s according to a new york city official familiar with the interview, trump even told the officers to be safe at the end of the session his approach might have something to do with the fact that his demeanor and cooperation could influence the judge s decision on sentencing de the hearing comes as his campaign moves forward with a more shall we say traditional process of selecting a vice presidential running mate? all of them have been asked to submit documents to be vetted you re not at that level yet? well, we ll look they argue they ve asked us for a number of things. i think that a number of people have been asked to submit this in your taxes or something i don t know everything but yeah, i mean, certainly like, have you committed a crime? i ve ever lied about this have you ever committed a crime? a matt gorman? apparently not. okay. for the vp i know what we laugh. i know we laugh. it does it does make sense why you d ask that. i mean, it does it does. i did the first of that of paul ryan when it was selecting his vp we re at the point now, where you re bringing in not just the candidate, but the family, the accountants, the lawyers, and you are asking we were just trying to get to the central question. number one, do we know everything about this person that we need to know? number one and number two if we don t, what is it that we don t know and trying to get that. so the candidate, no matter who it is, can evaluate and make a decision because let s face it this way, right? we know trump is indicted on four things, felt guilty on 153 others, right? in the limited space, we don t want a new one coming out all of a sudden that they can t price in that they don t have an awareness of. it does seem like an acknowledgment that committing crimes as bad, which the president has so far not seemed to want to cop to i don t think they have formally conceded that point but no, i mean, to matt s point, it s less about any particular dealbreaker than about not being surprised, right? that s what s running processes for it s just anything that s in there. the campaign wants to know in advance so they can get out ahead of it if that s the case or just again, just not to be surprised by something, it s one thing to say, oh, this came up in his first campaign and he had a good explanation for it, or the voters didn t seem to care. and so it s known part of someone s bio, it s another thing for it to be, you know, late october and all of a sudden you re finding out that someone was arrested for a felony 30 years ago, that they neglected to tell anybody about, and it becomes a big news cycle. i will just say that it also seems to underscore the difference between donald trump and the rest of the political universe where gravity still seems to apply even if it doesn t donald trump. all right, coming up next, hunter biden s fate in the 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courtroom. choices have consequences. and that s why we re here later. hunters defense attorney argued the prosecutors case was similar to a magician s trick, adding quote, there is nothing there. joining me now from wilmington, delaware is alex thompson, the national political reporter for it? axios, who has been covering this trial day in and day out. alex, wonderful to see you how just catch us up with what you saw in court yesterday during these closing arguments. and i want to dig into how the family in particular is playing into this because my understanding is the jurors were told not to be intimidated by the fact that it s the families the president of the united states yes. so yesterday you saw bolt very lengthy closing arguments, i believe abbe lowell hunter biden s lawyer when for about 87 minutes and then the prosecution got two shots at it and they probably got about the same about 87 minutes. and to your other points the prosecution said, if they have not proven that hunter biden was a crack addict than no one is a crack addict. and it got a little chip between the two sides. abbe lowell at one point said that the prosecution had been quote enormously cruel two naomi biden hunter biden s daughter, the president s granddaughter, and how they cross-examined tr the government came right back and said it was then who put her on the stand that put her in that position. and it was hunter biden who according to text messages tom had been erratic and texting in the middle of the night and had i think they ve put it as said, blowing her off and so it got very personal in terms of how the family yesterday was the most family that we have seen in this trial. you had aunts, uncles cousins, the cousins, spouses. it was at least a full thing and it was interesting that both sides, in their closing arguments made you made allusions to the family. now, abbe lowell hunters lawyer has been really trying to portray hunter as a family person and has been referencing the family as as part of that that he is just i think one of you, whereas the prostitution is basically saying what? you just alluded to, which is don t be intimidated. this is not these people are not evidenced. these people are not really part of the trial how would you describe kind of the the mood among the biden family members who attended from what? you could observe it, what did what did that feel like yeah. i think they you can see a little bounce in their step after abbe lowell s closing, having just a fulsome 87 minute defense from of hunter when i think a lot of the family feels he has just been hit day after day after day for the last several years and i think i even saw bowel biden, the president, sister give them a go, give abby go, get them. right? right afterward. but after at the very end i don t think the family likes being at felony trial for joe biden s son, and you could tell there were certainly moments ashley biden in particular, the president s daughter and hunter sister has you been very emotional at moments in this trial having to leave at some point, plate lots of tears. and you can tell it s been harder on some than on the others. one of the arguments that came up was about hallie biden one of the attorneys said quote, poor hallie biden knew had to be dragged through this period of her life. again, who understandably did not remember a lot of the details well she remembering what she saw that day or dozens of other days when she too was using if you notice, she could remember what the prosecutors asked her. the prosecutors are also gave her immunity, but not so much for any number of things so that that i guess coming from from abbe lowell well, it clearly they felt like they needed to defend other members of the family. two, how did that fit in this been a key part of hunter biden strategy from the very beginning, which is to really try to undermine the credibility of hallie biden, who s beau s widow, who is also his sister-in-law. and the reason is because her testimony he is, very very troubling if you re a hunter, biden, the fact is that she was the one that found the gun. she and when she testified that when she went into the truck, she found crack cocaine, paraphernalia, suggesting that he had been smoking very recently, that she found powder that day, which also suggested he d been using am was the one that he was texting during the period he had the gun in which he said that he was smoking crack and this goes to a larger sort of dynamic within both the defense and the prosecution, which you at the very end of the day beyond the facts that case, i think it will really come down to you. do you relate to hunter biden or do you resent hunter biden and the prosecutor? the hunters team at basically wants to make you think he s a family man that he was suffering from a disease that he s one of you in delaware home grown. whereas the defense is saying no, this is a bad guy. this is the guy that what the little details that he was trying hundred $51,000 in cash withdrawal and just three months that he was a millionaire, that he was yael educated, that he gave $800 to his 24-year-old girlfriend to buy clothes for his daughters. these little details that are meant to portray a different sort of person and that may end up being the difference maker with this jury all right. alex thompson for us this morning. alex. thank you very much for that. meghan hayes, can i ask you, you know, someone who s been in the biden family orbit? how this all mean as alex said, that they entire family has shown up for him at this trial. understandably, but it s gotta be weighing on the president who of course has not made an appearance at the courtroom. yeah. i mean, i don t think anybody hit this table. be surprised. a hunter is at the forefront of the presence minor, it adds, it s an extremely challenging situation. he s a dad first and foremost, i think he said that in his statement, but i do think that this is someone who is an addict. he is a recovering addict right now and i think that the family is concerned and i think that s showing up to be supportive of him. i think that s what families do is show up and support people when in their time of need. all right. let s turn now to the 2024 campaign trail where donald trump de, virtual mark remarks yesterday to the danbury institute it is a conservative christian group. they call abortion, quote, child sacrifice, and quote the greatest atrocity facing our generation today trump, who just two months ago said abortion should be left to the states, didn t explicitly mentioned abortion during his remarks. that s an admission that for the presumptive nominee of the republican party says a lot about the politics of this issue in a post-dobbs, america. instead, trump said this we are a seriously declining nations, seriously serious and so sad. i know that each of you is protecting those values every day and i hope we ll be defending them side-by-side for your next four years. these are going to be your years so matt gorman, i mean, he obviously is trying to tell them something that they want to hear, but to not mention abortion at a group like this. i mean, it just shows what a tough position any republican is in, in a world where the protections of roe means that, well, if you say life begins at conception, suddenly are threatening. everything including in vitro fertilization. note we look at it, i think abortion is probably the best issue for democrats and it makes the most sense for him to run on it. and i think it doesn t make sense also for trump to give more grist to anything and that they re going to use against them already in a campaign. and i think what this is, i m more and more convinced that this an election in the sanctuary to come down either the economy hovering above all, an immigration on the right, abortion and left competing as the single issue crawl over broken glass type issues for voters. and which one wins out last couple years exceed abortion went out, could happen again, immigration has been very salient, loved what happens, and i think that s gonna tell us its substrate election. well, and i think the debate that i m hearing among my republican sources about how they and their candidates should message the abortion issue is very similar to it. why here democrats talking about immigration? the question is, do you try to keep it off the agenda and not talk about it in the hopes that you can raise the salience of some other issue, right. so if you re a democrat to ignore immigration and just tried to talk about abortion where you feel like you have a better message there is a school of thought, i think in both of these camps that says no, you have to go at it. you have to say to voters, i understand why you think this is important and here is my position so that they re not left guessing. so republicans have been having this active debates since the fall of roe, saying we do have to have a message for voters about abortion. we do have to have something to say to them. otherwise, we re just going to get clobbered and i think you ve seen democrats on immigration, the same thing. a lot of candidates have tried to avoid the issue, but there is a new conventional wisdom on the democratic side that says if you do that you re just gonna get killed on this issue. that is important to so many voters. you do need to have some kind of positive message, even if it s not necessarily going to be popular because in both cases, the parties are on the wrong side of these respective issue really interesting way to think about it, okay the house rules committee meets today to consider holding attorney general merrick garland in contempt. we re going to talk about that with a member of the committee recovery can ralph norman of south carolina plus donald trump questioning whether taylor swift is a legit liberal the most anticipated moment the election and the stakes couldn 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guilt.com today all right. 46 minutes past the hour. here s your morning round up. this just in the plane carrying malawi s vice president, malawi s vice president, and nine other people has been found. everyone on board was killed the plane went missing monday after it failed to make a scheduled landing president biden set to addressing major gun violence prevention conference in dc today, nearly two years after signing the first federal gun safety legislation to be passed in decades there you have it. rudy giuliani is mug shot after he posted a $10,000 bond in his election interference case in arizona donald trump s former lawyer showing no remorse as he left court do you have any regrets about what you did in arizona after the election? oh, my goodness. no. why not? very, very proud. there was a substantial amount of vote for the one on here that was covered up probably one of the biggest conspiracies in american history when just say there was no evidence of any of the things that he just said there, giuliani pleaded not guilty in may to nine felony charges stemming from his alleged role in arizona s fake electors scheme the port of baltimore is open for business now as the shipping lane into the harb fully reopened last night for the first time since the francis scott key bridge was hit by a cargo ship and collapsed in march from all those folks all right. let s turn now to capitol hill where the house rules committee will meet today to decide whether to advance contempt charges against attorney general merrick garland over his refusal to provide lawmakers the audio of president biden s interview with special counsel robert hur after her found the biden mishandled classified documents but would likely present to a jury as a quote, sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory and quote, the gop led push comes just a week after garland testified before congress, where he said this i will not be intimidated. and the justice department will not be intimidated and training. now, it s south carolina republican congressman ralph norman. he sits on the house rules committee a powerful one in the house. congressman. good morning. thank you for being here. my pleasure bladder be ready. so the attorney general, merrick garland has a new washington post opinion piece that s out this morning and he writes in that piece quote, disagreements about our politics are good for our democracy. they are normal. but using conspiracy theories, falsehoods, violence, and threats of violence to effect political outcomes is not normal. the short-term political benefits of those tactics will never make up for the long-term cost to our country continued unfounded attacks against the justice department s employees are dangerous for people safety, they are dangerous for our democracy. and they must stop. what do you have to say to his argument there attorney general garland is let s just say it s laughable. what he s taking party and he s not above the law. he says he s not going to be intimidated it s very simple. why don t think he s arguing that he s above you re saying he s not above the law in the context of the contempt charges around that that you are considering what what he s not above the law in is when congress has every right, an article one the whole committees that investigates the doj in any other agency. and what we asked for is the sense that president biden had an interview with robert hur asking for the audio tapes very, very simple. the audio tapes and he won t. they initially started back in february of this february 5th and we asked for the audio tapes which do exist and on february 16, the doj under the guidance of merrick garland said they weren t going to meet the timeline. they extended the timeline. so and then finally they came back and said there s no justifiable reason why you need the audio tapes that the biden has already waived executive privilege by printing the the interview so they re just want to tape to see if they match up with what s being reported. they redacted several parts of it. so but and it s saying he s not above the law. he s going to be in contempt. we will pass it, i think in the rules and will hold him accountable like he s doing every every other person has got an arb aside, their name and you re going to learn from the tapes that you can t learn from the transcripts the tapes were backup, will either justify what has been the the transcript say or they won t. do you think actually tampered with a the transcripts? is that what you re saying? we have no idea until we get them. they haven t. that s what attorney general garland refuses to turn over is very simple. turn turn the tape over, and so we can see if it matches with the transcripts either does or does it? and do you think that you have in the full house to hold the garland in contempt oh, i have no idea. we ll see what the evidence we will have testimony today that are probably last six to eight hours. you have a democratic witness, you have republican witness. james calmer well, it may be jim jordan, but one of the two will present what they re finding is, but it s very simple. turn over the tapes that will either validity the transcripts or they won t and let us see it congressman, i want to talk politics with you for a little while. your state, of course, has famously sharp-elbowed to put it politely, i would say politics, nancy mace congresswoman, who voted to oust kevin mccarthy facing a primary challenge today. could you underscore clarify for me who it is you re supporting in this primary. and do you think that mayes is going to hang on? i hadn t come out on either side. i know both. and i serve with nancy, catherine templeton was headed de heck under nikki haley who i like i think nancy will win this race, but i hadn t come out publicly for either one of them. i get involved in a lot of races but on this particular one, i decided just to let the low country decide who they want and net nancy s got a track record and catherine templeton has a record of so why once you endorse your college, you re not endorsing nancy mace. i mean, that s pretty normal worthy as typically y all incumbents usually stick together well, i didn t come out against are either. i just said let the voters decide and the low countries has a lot of different issues that they re passionate about. and i let them decide it and i m from the upstate and i did get involved. am involved with the timmons morgan rice. i came out against william terman s and but on the nancy may just decide to stay out of that sir, before i let you go we ve heard president former president trump. obviously, he has campaigned. we ve heard him say earlier in the show that america is a declining nation this is something that he talks about all the time. the governor of pennsylvania, which is a key swing state. he s a democrat but he had a different message about what he thinks republican should be saying about america. i want you to listen to what governorship hero said, and then i want to get your reaction on either side. watch all they hear from donald trump is a whole bunch of whining about this country. so i got a message to donald trump and all his negativity in his whining stops barking. america. this is the greatest country on earth, and it s time that we all start acting like it i m going to say, sir i m a patriotic american. do you does he have a point president trump as does the american people see what s happening to america. he is exactly right? look at what s happening in this country. talk to the average voter out there who is very upset with inflation. they re very upset with the 13 to 15 million illegals coming into this kind. would you still the greatest country on earth as many politicians often have it once was the greatest country on earth. we in the rapid decline, it s not anymore three-and-a-half years of this biden administration. pardon me. it s not anymore in which country would you say is greater than the united states of america? well, unless we get our financials in order, unless we stopped spin in, printing money, will we cannot continue what we have been in the past, which is a shining city on a hill, and the director result of the liberal policies that this administration has continues to put, put the american people through immigration, is leading the pack on. this is he s breaking the constitution. he s destroying the values in this country. so i think the american people show that at the pose all right, i sold them have the name of another country that s greater than the united states of america. congressman ralph north on norman, excuse me, ralph norman, thank you so much, sir, for being here. i really appreciate your time. my pleasure. all right, let s turn now to this i m still feature when i walk in the room why wouldn t we talk about taylor swift? and we can talk about taylor swift. she apparently has a new admirer in donald trump. in an interview for a forthcoming book about the former president trump raved about the pop star s looks, telling the writer quote, i think she s beautiful, very beautiful. i find it very beautiful. i think she s liberal. she probably doesn t like trump. i hear she s very talented. i think she s very beautiful actually unusually beautiful trump, however, clearly seemed unable to forget his bad blood with swift over her 2020 endorsement of joe biden and throwing into question her political beliefs that she is liberal or is that just an act he asked during the interview, she s legitimately he liberal, it s not an act. it surprises me that a country star can be successful being liberal meghan. i mean, i think it s creepy the way he continues to talk about how pretty women are that are significantly younger in age, very much younger. but that being said, i think that he he doesn t want to upset the swifties. i think we all know what happens when that when we awake a giant of the swifties. but i think it s very big. part of why we re talking about her. madame mean, disagree with me if you want to but she is actually probably the one celebrity. i think that actually has the power to move inefficient number of probably right? yeah, i think it s a matter of now whether she would ever want to get involved, i think in 2020, 2016, were i think we talked to this couple weeks ago, different time for celebrities inject themselves some politics become political actors very different now, outtake donald trump taylor swift, like it s like the page clicks like big bang, massive forces together for this this explosion. i hope for it. but yeah, i don t think she needs it out really good about i don t think he needs to go out and like i support you biden. she was already did that and then also in her documentary, if she s already said where she stands on a lot of issues and like wind to our family and said, i mean, so i don t think anyone s questioning where she stands politically here, but yeah. so i mean, i think he gets kind of i don t think she needs out really get involved, but i think it like donald trump as like a celebrity, celebrity pundit, right? like a celebrity handicap or he is really encapsulating so where she stands in like the firmament of sort of pop culture, right? yeah. he clearly has spent more time looking at her than listening to her. she hasn t been a country star for a long time as my swift the daughter could certainly the idea that like people don t necessarily see her as a political figure. and that s why a potential endorsement for her is so powerful, right? because to her legions of fans who just love her no matter what, the things that she says are, can resonate outside that political sphere. and that s why i think she does have the power to potentially move votes is even though she does have this history of endorsed pressing liberal politicians and taking liberal positions, she is not, i think pigeonholed as just sort of hollywood liberal, liberal celebrity. and so she s able to speak in an authentic way to her following it hearkens back to a funny time where donald trump was on twitter like talking about robert patents and kristen stewart member that ten years ago, remember this is very much like the page six, new york celebrity gossip world he had spent 30 years in. this is almost in a way like a very pure version of donald trump, like gossiping about celebrities. yeah, no it s, it s, it s it s donald trump, maggie haberman has been cut yeah. all right. i will leave you with this oh like she s still got it. courtney cox, letting the world know. she s still has the moves that she showed off in bruce springsteen s video for dancing in the dark, the friends star joining a social media trend where kids ask their parents to show them how they danced in the 1980s, cox famously appeared in springsteen s 1984 and music video. jumping on stage to boogie with the boss molly ball has your daughter made you do this yet no could you better or worse than a by way waveshape, let s put courtney back first quarter me and her dancing. there yep, there she is. i mean, honestly that i think i could do that might be the limit of my abilities, but that i could do i mean i don t know because i wouldn t want to do it in public, but i m not do not checked doing matt either. all right thanks, guys. every much. appreciate your time today. thanks for all to all of you for joining us. i m

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thank you for watching, while we were just talking about this summer s o olympics it is also worth noting that just minutes from now we will officially be two years out from the fifa world cup which will take place here in the u.s. after 30 years and you re in luck. get your count down clock started now. and on that note i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks at nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i ll see you at the end of tomorrow. thank you for joining us this hour. really happy to have you here. we have an interesting show for you tonight. i m particularly glad you re here for us. we re going to start a ways back as we sometimes do. when allied soldiers came ashore on the coast of france on the beaches of normandy for the d day invasion. they opened up new western front against the nazis in europe. and that of course was a shock to the germans right. this, the operation overlore, the d day invasion it relied on the element of surprise. and the germans really were shocked. they had been occupying france for four years at that point. they had installed a collaborationist regime that they fashioned from nazi forces inside france. the collaborationists and the nazis together were ruling france and they had been for years. there was a french resistance to the nazis but the nazis and their puppets were definitely in charge. they were actually heading into year five of being in charge. they were really settled in in france. and then here comes this shock arrival. this invasion, hundreds of thousands ultimately millions of ally troops landing on the beaches and the cliffs or the northwest of france and they are clearly planning to take it all back. the d day invasion, the allied invasion started on june 6th. now on this date, on june 10th, 1944 just four days into the d day invasion, the germans were reacting. they had been of course shocked by the initial invasion. but a few days into it they now realize the scale of what they were up against and they had started scrambling their units from all over france. turning all the available german troops in france toward the northwest of that country to try to stop the allied advance. and that included a nazi assess panser division that had been in the south of france down by toulousse. that division was ordered to essentially traverse south of the country and toward the beaches of normandy. and on their way north through france toward the new allied front lines the new western front, this panser division stopped in a village called orador, pronazi french collaborators had told them. they told this panser unit that the french resistance was active many this town and told them that the french resistance had killed a nazi officer. and in response that panser unit that yes they were on the way to go join the new western fronts and the battle for the whole war, right. to try to shore up the german lines against the big allied invasion but they decided that on the way they would stop and destroy that village and everyone in it. they rounded up every woman, and child in that village. they even rounded up people who did not live in the village but who were near by or had the misfortune of passing through the village when the nazi unit made this decision. that nazi unit killed every human being in orador or everyone they could find. they killed 643 civilians a vast majority of them women and children. they used machine guns and they burned them alive. they looted the entire village and then they tore down the village as best they could, they razed it. orador. this is what it looks like today. still in ruins. the french decided after the war they would never rebuild. they would leave the ruins, preserve them as they were left at the end of the war as a memorial to what the nazis did. and we have these photos of what orador looks like today. literally today because this morning the president of france and the president of germany visited the ruins at orador to commemorate what they called the martyrdom. now this is not the first time that french president emmanuel macron has visited orador. 10 days before he was first elected president he went there. he visited the village, just before he was elected president. he visited in the company of the man who was then the last living survivor of that massacre. i said the nazis killed everyone in the village. at least everyone they could find. the nazis kill over 600 civilians that day but there were about half a dozen people from the village who against all odds in a miracle managed to survive. the last one of the survivors was in his 90s when he brought emmanuel macron to orador. that last survivor has since died. but today macron went back to the site to orador to show this place to germany s president. now, in 1944 about six month, after orador happened, the germans were still hanging on. but thanks in large part to the d day invasion they knew by the end of 1944 that they were losing. they were losing to soviet forces in the east for sure. they were also simultaneously losing to the allied forces coming in from the west. once the allies opened that new western front with the d day invasion, they started pressing their advantage against the nazis ever where. they re not only liberating france. they re pressing toward germany itself. hitler knows they cannot sustain the losses they re taking on both the eastern and western fronts. so about six months app after d day. hitler decides he s going to form a huge counter offensive against the allies. the allies are closing in on germany s own borders. when hitler musters hundreds of thousands of men to mount a counter offensive against them in the forests of belgium, it absolutely is a surprise to the allies. nobody thought germany still had them in them. a lot of people thought that the war would be done by christmas that year. where did the germans muster 4,000, 5,000 men to counter this offensive but they did. that began a 6 week battle, that would become the biggest counter of the war. as far as that brutal war of that battle. that was the battle of the bulge. that battle also came with its own astonishing and unforgettable atrocity. it was another panser unit much like the one in orador. they ended up in the very outset of that surprise german counter offensive. they ended up ambushing a bunch of americans. the result was they took custody of a large group of american prisoners of war. unarmed american pows. and these pows they again they had surrendered, they had no weapons. the nazis lined up those americans on a field. they are pows, they had surrendered, had no weapons. but the nazis just massacred them on that field. and just like in orador is the fact that there were somehow miraculously some survivors. there were some american gis who had also been lined up on that field who nevertheless lived. americans gi who played dead, who hid under the dead bodies of their comrades. who managed in the end to drag themselves into the woods to get away. and what happened to them? you will not believe me when i tell you this but it would not be long before a sitting united states senator would vehemently object to them giving testimony of what they saw, to what happened to their platoon men. the other pows who were massacred by the nazis. a sitting u.s. senator tried to block those veterans from testifying. he said the american people shouldn t hear it. he said it would be inflammatory, it would inflame the americans against those nazis who killed the american pows. i find it absolutely insane to think about but this became a very strange thing in american domestic politics. i mean, there were unrepenitent left over nazis. they were trying to make americans the real bad guys. when you think about unrepenitent nazis who just lost the war. the thing that you wouldn t believe is that they enlisted a lot of americans to help them in that project. including taking a stand against the american soldiers who survived that pow massacre and demanding that the nazis who did it should be set free. this became a cause seleb in the right wing at the time. it helped launch the national career, the rocket ship ascendants of arguably the most radical figure in the last 80 years before donald trump. while he was swimming in these very dark waters. darker than seems possible in mainstream american politics he would go on to lead a movement of millions of followers who were increasingly radicalized by his increasingly radical rhetoric and tactics over time. his fellow republicans were both repelled by him, horrified by him. while they also wanted in on some of the massive political energy and fanatical devotion that he attracted. they thought very seriously about putting him forward for the presidency. and the reaction among close observers of him and his tactics looked so much like what you are seeing in the american press today about the fear of a second trump term you wouldn t believe it isn t just a straight up rerun. in his time the people who stood up against him, mostly got mowed down in politics by the strength of his fanatical following. that happened for a very long time. until eventually ultimately it stopped happening and the forces against him prevailed. and i m telling you this for two reasons. number one, this is the thing that i have been working on for the past year. my podcast rachel maddow presents ultra is out today. you can get it any where you get podcasts. if you don t usually listen to podcast you don t know how to do that. if you open your phone right now, open the camera, you click on the little box that pops up on your phone, it will bring you right there so you can listen to it. you can listen to it for free. it s free to listen to. there are eight episodes of this all together. episode one is out today. i hope you will want to listen. i ve been working very hard on it. i m very proud of it but i just, i hope you like it. i hope you will check it out. so that s one of the reasons i m telling you this story. i have been working on this story. i had been working in general on stories about other times in our american history that we have dealt with really terrible threats to the country. where we have confronted really radical people with really radical refine who get into political power and attract large followings. this has happened to us before. the reason i ve been working on this for the last couple of years including this new one that launches today, for me, i feel like i really need to learn this stuff and fast. for me there is a real urgency to learn these stories now. from when we have contended with terrible challenges before. particularly what we re talking about powerful americans, advocating for athoriatism. when it s about selling lies to the american public. and half is mortified by that but the other half of the public are super energized by it. they not only believe these lies they kind of become the new reason for them to live. the public gets gets like that, into earth one and earth two. and that place takes radicalizing them and it takes over their lives. we are living through a moment like that right now with what is ascendant at the american life. but we ve lived through this before. i feel i m racing to learn these stories about american who is have fought these kinds of fights before us for the simple reason that i feel like, i need their ideas about how to fight it. we need their ideas about how to fight these things. we need to see what worked and what didn t when americans faced threats like this before. and it doesn t mean that fighting them always works. sometimes they get away with a lot of this stuff and sometimes people take on incredible risk and danger to themselves. sometimes people risk their lives or give up their lives to fight these things but knowing the track records of americans who have stood up against these kinds of dark and authoritarian forces. knowing who else has tried it and what happened to them is helpful to us calibrating our available responses now and knowing what to expect when we confront these dark movements. so that is why i ve been working on this. and that is why that story is on my mind. tonight. but it is also what s on the news right now. i mean one of the remarkable things about seeing the french president with the german president at the ruins of orador today in france is they took that tour of the ruins of that village today. that preserved memorial to what fascism did in europe. they took that tour this morning. just one day after the german far right and the french far right won shockingly large proportions of the vote in the european elections that were held yesterday. in both of those countries the parties that did so well have ties not only to the old fascist parties of world war ii era germany and france but they both have tied to putin and russia. when president biden was in france, he and president macron agreed on a new plan to seize russian assets in the g7 countries and use those seized russian assets to provide more support to ukraine as ukraine continues to struggle against the russian invasion of that country. president biden is just back from france for these d day commemoration ceremonies. he heads back to europe the day after tomorrow to go to the g7 summit. among other things presumably to try to rally the other g7 nations to support this new plan. to support ukraine as much as possible including this new plan that he and macron have just agreed to involving seizing russian assets to help ukraine even more. and you know, in the american aperture here what s going on here in our politics while president biden is trying to you know rally the free world trying to strengthen our alliances as much as possible to lead collective international will, against a rogue dictatorship that has invaded one big european country already and has its sights set on more. here at home, literally while president biden and other american leaders were headed off to europe for the 80th anniversary of d day, while they were heading off to europe for that, what was happening in the american congress? a fifth of the republicans in congress just voted that we should leave our allies all together. that we should break up the big western alliance. that we should defund nato. and i think nobody really paid attention to this vote because this legislation was put forward by a very fringe member of congress. a member of congress who is known for her publicity stunts and she is therefor, i am eager, she is easy to ignore. but it wasn t just her. 47 republicans voted for this thing. a fifth of the republicans in congress last week voted to defund nato. don t just forget being the leader of the free world forget the whole idea of there being a free world at all. they saved that for the anniversary of d day. 46 republicans voting to defund nato. and as radical as that may seem, particularly when you think about where nato came from and why. the wing of the republican party that is pushing for this stuff, i mean on its face it seems unlikely that they would have such sway. right every few days we get a new mug shot of one of their leading lights because so many of them have been charged with crimes. today, it was their presidential candidates personal lawyer. who has had his law license suspended, who is under indictment rudy giuliani s mug shot just released today after he was arraigned in arizona. you can put it up on the wall with all the other maga republican mug shots we have accrued in the past year. their presidential candidate is a convicted felon. today he had to meet with his probation officer. people in his rallies not only fly t-shirts and fly flags that have his mug shot on them. they started carrying signs and wear shirts that say they are proudly voting for the convicted felon. at a rally this weekend, their presidential candidate described members of the mob of his supporters who physically attacked congress an injured dozens of police officers he described them in a speech this weekend as quote warriors. his warriors. people who took part in that mob attack on congress. his warriors. while a few days ago, two police officers who were both badly injured fighting hand to hand with that mob to defend congress, to defend the u.s. capital, those two police officers were jeered and booed by the republicans. they jeered them, turned their backs on them and walked out. these are two officers who were injured in that fight. they were literally injured defending our congress. but the republicans who jeered at them and turned their backs on them and walked out they want the attackers freed and they don t want to hear what these survivors of the attack had to say. they don t want to hear from the survivors and the witnesses they want the attackers set free. we are going through some weird stuff right now. but we have gone through weird stuff before. and i do think that we can learn from it and that we urgently need to. that s why i ve been working on all these projects. that s why i have this new podcast out and i hope you listen to it. it wasn t from the recent past, when we got donald trump in the white house in the first place. you may remember what proceeded. our shock presidential election result in 2016 was proceeded that year by some shocking and surprisingly right wing election results in europe. including the brexit vote which happened just months app months after trump s presidential win. was it right to see right wing election results in europe as a harbinger of what was happening to us in 2016. as biden has back to back trips to europe. he just got back to europe. he heads back to europe again on wednesday. do the election results from europe right now, this weekend have hallmarks that tell us anything about what to expect here and about how weird this is all going to get? president biden clearly sees our connections to europe right now as absolutely key to the future of the world. just what s going on in the european politics right now tell us anything to expect about the future of our world here? joining us now is ben rhodes. he s cohost of the pod save the world podcast. ben it s really great to see you. thanks for making time to be here tonight. good to see you. first, let me just ask you, for some of our viewers who may not have paid close attention to what was happening in the european elections this weekend. let me ask you two questions about them. do you think they are important for us to pay attention to, and can you give us a rough characterization of what happened in those elections? sure, these are elections for the european parliament. so the european union wide parliament. it s the only election that takes place every few years in which all of europe votes. so it s a good barometer of where opinion is in europe. i think the two headlines are, the far right made noticeable gains in the two largest countries in europe. france and germany. and france the national front party which is the far right party that used to be on the fringes of french politics, emerged as by far the largest vote getter in this election and just build on, what you were saying, rachel, this is a party that is far right they got a $10 million loan from russia in the last decade. this is reality. and in germany, the afd party which has ties that go back to the neonazi germany. they got 15% of the vote. not a huge total but very alarming given the source here. i want to be clear in other parts of europe, the center did hold. but the two most important countries france and germany we saw these far right gains. do you think that it s right to look back at 2016 to see some of what was going on in europe as a harbinger for the shocking election result we got in 2016 when trump won. do you think these election results should be read as a harbinger of what s coming down the pipeline for us this year? i absolutely do, rachel. the commonality about the brixit vote and the trump election was that it was a lot, it was a surprise. people did not think that brexit was going to win that campaign and they campaigned on a right wing populous message. the slogan was take back control. and they ran against globalists and liberal elites and against immigration and was very trumpy in its message. it kind of forshadowed what we ended up taling with in the fall. the warning in this election and you asked me a question to talk about my book a few years ago about far right parties and their commonalities around the world. you asked me what lesson should we learn. i always think about that. the lesson i take from this is there are incumbent parties in europe and france that have defended the status quo. emmanuel macron has been a defendant of the liberal union. people are not listening to that message right now. you cannot defeat these parties. these populous by beating the status quo. that s hard for the united states. but you have to tap into people s disfraction with globalization. dissatisfaction with inequality. that things are slipping out of control. it s not enough to say, we re the responsible adults you have to get down and have a message for how things are going change. i think that s the warning sign joe biden should hear. not enough to run on status quo. not enough to defend even things we think are very important. you have to meet people where they are and people are frustrated. ben rhodes former deputy national security advisor to president obama. ben, thank you for making the time. i feel like, when we need to like widen the lens a lot and look at america in the world, you re almost always one of the first people i think about on these things. thank you for being here. i can t wait for you to check out the podcast too, it sounds great. i appreciate it. thank you. we have much more ahead here tonight, please stay with us. that s why he 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had to stand up against forming the basis for this sprawling damming criminal indictment. the other story of georgia since that election is all the work that protrump republicans have done to make sure nothing like that ever happens again. to make sure nobody can ever again get in the way of trump seizing georgia s 16 electoral votes no matter what the votes say. the most obvious thing georgia republicans have done is used every tool at their disposal to derail willis prosecution of trump. in the latest, two republicans judges have placed the trial on pause. guaranteeing they will not go forward on trump before the election. that s only the start. in georgia s most populous country, one republican elections board member last month refused to certify the primary results there. because you know, elections are scary. with the help of lawyers from a protrump think tank she has now filed a lawsuit seeking the power to block the certification of elections which would of course throw november s results in georgia into chaos. which is presumably the point. meanwhile just north of fulton county republicans recently started agitating to take over an elections board in cherokee county. now the board there like other countries in georgia, has always been evenly split between democrats and republicans. but republicans are no longer okay with that they wanted a full scale republican take over. when that was blocked they came up with an ingenious new plan. they decided they would replace one of the democratic commissioners who had been nominated by the local republican party with their own choice. their own choice for a democrat. a new guy that none of the local democrats have never heard of. but don t worry, the republicans who run cherokee county swear this guy they picked is definitely a democrat. the atlanta general constitution reported that the republican cherokee county commission chairman quote assured the board the new board member is a democrat even if the local 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last month one of its republican members was ousted after trump reportedly spent months calling georgia republicans insisting that that election board member had to go. because that person was not backing trump s lies about the 2020 election. and so of course the guy had to go. trump s personal involvement in remaking the georgia state elections board, is just one of the revelations in new reporting from rolling stone. their new piece is headlined georgia is our laboratory. inside trump s plan to rig 2024. it details how trump s allies are working to make sure there will not be a straightforward election result in georgia this year. given georgia s status. what is happening there, what is happening to stop what is happening there. one of the reporters on that rolling stones piece joins us here next. stay with us. this soil will blow you away. it s the martha stewart of soil. when i was diagnosed with h-i-v, i didn t know who i would be. but here i am. being me. keep being you. and ask 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other, excuse me. order, order. by a larger margin than any other statewide office. the voters. order, order. have demonstrated their faith and therefor i do not believe that at present we have the authority to oversee or investigate the secretary of state. when georgia s board of elections the lone democrat on that elections vote spoke out against doing this unprecedented investigation of rathenburger. she was loudly shouted down? in a new article titled georgia is our laboratory. inside trump s plan to rig 2024, rolling stone says this, they have been shaping electoral processes to his benefit. maga die-hards are intimidating officials and ousting election officials who haven t been initiated into the cult of trump. georgia is the sole battleground state where the republican party has total control over power. have wielded that advantage in a crusade to convert, discredited election conspiracy theories into policies. well ahead of election day 2024. it s an alarmingly experiment that trump planned and much of the republican party hope to take national. joinening joining us now is donald rolsing. thank you for joining us. thank you for having me. so what are the steps trump has taken to take the electoral of georgia. one of the most disturbing one. who an attorney, a republican attorney they are planning to challenge the electoral results regardless of the result. we think of, the threat to elections from trump s behavior in to 2020 as only occurring in the event that trump loses. at the current state polling, trump is ahead in polling. if you believe the polling. but what they told us is that quote, you can t let the left get away with this cheating just because it didn t succeed you know air qualities around cheating. and the plan is to, challenge the results regardless of the outcome. the intent behind that is essentially a permanent delitimazation. heads you win, heads i lose. one of the things people should be paying close attention to is that refusal to certify in the fulton county board of elections in the presidential primary: because one of the things that s very, very notable about that is that the attorneys who filed that lawsuit work for america first policies institute. which is a very trumpy organization filled with former trump folks. and what you see in those type of processes is the legal january 6th in miniature. you re taking someone who is you know, acting beyond their brief and trying to essentially insert themselves into the counting and you know assessment of vote tallies. adam, is this actually a fight in georgia? you note, i think importantly that georgia is a place where republicans control all of the levers of power. we just played a the sound of the state elections board getting shouted down when she objected to what they were trying to do in terms of targeting rafensburger. is this fight joined where there s push back against what they re doing. or are they essentially running the table by changing processes to their own benefit. they definitely have quite a built in advantage. and i think that s why georgia, you know relative to other battleground states is particularly interesting because it is more so than perhaps any other state a fight for the sole republican party es especially when it comes to their sole. yeah in fact, kemp which was in the way of trump. kemp signed procedural jim crow of the 20th century. even folk who is have proven themselves to be obstacle to some of the most overt processes of it sometimes just go along to get along. it definitely does have an advantage and they are running the table in certain ways but you see folks like ed lyndsey who s resignation letter we obtained in the story. people like that you still do have these kind of principal republicans who are willing to stand up for what they believe in. as you see ed had resigned from a great deal of pressure from not just president trump but the grass roots of the party who believe in a lot of election 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on this new hour of diamond, a key member of israel s core cabinet has resigned. what does this departure mean for netanyahu s war on gaza? also, tonight, extremism on the rise, hate group surge across america and why are migrant family still being separated at the u.s. border and being left in limbo. here with is live, let s do it. we began with an important seismic shakeup in the israeli government. benny gantz, one of the three core members of israel s war cabinet and vitamin netanyahu s top clinical rival has resigned. in a press conference today, he said, quote, netanyahu prevents us from moving forward to real victory and accused his far right coalition of prioritizing political considerations over war strategy. last month, gantz gave netanyahu an ultimatum, present a plan for the day after the war in gaza, by june 8th, or else. it was one of the most visible signs of division within the emergency wartime government, a team of political rivals who had until recently projected unity. but netanyahu has not produced a plan for gaza s future beyond rejecting a two state solution and insisting on israel s long- term security oversight over gaza and the west bank. so gantz followed through on his threat to step down, delayed by one day due to the brutal israeli attack to rescue hostages in gaza. today, netanyahu, for a second time, publicly urged gantz to stay, posting on x, quote, israel is in an x essential war on several fronts. benny, this is not the time to abandon a campaign. this is a time to join forces. with gantz s resignation, it will not merely think netanyahu s government but it does mean that he now needs the far right members of his coalition more than ever to stay in power. already, the national security minister highly controversial figure, ben-gvir, one of israel s most radical nationalists and is now demanding a seat in the war cabinet. he is saying he was the power of his party to be given expression and not as it has been until now. gantz was asked today whether his resignation leaves the israeli government without any adults in the room. here is what he said. i was very privileged together with my friends to bring to the cabinet room all the experience we have. i know that the other people, mainly off-balance and they know it should be done hopefully they will stick to what should be done, and it will be okay. this is the biggest shakeup to israel s leadership since october 7, and comes at a critical moment in the war. a comp room hostage deal is on the table right now. the world is waiting for a response from hamas, but it is not clear if israel will also accept the terms outlined by president biden. netanyahu says there are gaps between the proposal biden described and the one he approved, and even ministers like ben-gvir have rejected it. netanyahu will make his case for what he describes as israel s just war when he comes to speak before the u.s. congress. we must ask, will gantz s departure result in real fundamental change for the war in gaza? the problem does not lie singularly with netanyahu but with israel s ideological and institutional approach to the palestinian issue, largely speaking. the policies preventing, for example, palestinian statehood and liberation are deeply entrenched in israeli society and the resignation from one so- called moderate cabinet minister will not necessarily change that. joining me now to discuss this ambassador alan pincus, the formal israeli consul general in new york and chief of staff are four is really foreign ministers and eastern africa studies on the council of foreign relations. he is also the offer of the book, the end of ambition, america s past, present, and future in the middle east. gentlemen, it is great to have both of you with us. ambassador, i will start with you and get your take on this is recognition. does any gantz is recognition change anything about how israel conducts this war in gaza or these talks for a cease- fire and hostage deal? high, good evening. it looks like a drama. it looks like a political earthquake. it is not but it does have the potential to evolve and do something very dramatic if mr. gantz resignation. which is according to most of his critics was related by at least five or six days months. to a large extent, any guest in decision-making and the cabinet was marginal. his ability to affect change in both the prosecution of the war and in developing and crafting a strategy for postwar in gaza was marginal. he essentially became an enabler. i think if you read stephen cook s article on foreign- policy yesterday, even the americans got him wrong in terms of thinking he is some centrist, even left of center. in terms of policy, he is a decent man. there is no malice there. he meant well when he joined the government. it was a time of emergency. effectively, he enabled netanyahu. he is complacent and he is an accomplice to every mistake, every strategic fluid assumption that this government made. now, in terms of how this will affect the war, it doesn t change the fundamental element, the fundamental parameters of what needs to be done. israel still faces a binary choice, except the plan or not except the plan. it sounds bizarre, i m in, netanyahu rejects israel s plan. it is like, you know. 1994. george orwell except that it is netanyahu s 2024. so in that respect, nothing changes as a result of his departure. stephen, there is an interesting element in his press conference, i should say, a fact that came out and that is he is honestly calling for new elections in israel this fall but that was somewhat echoed by chuck schumer here a couple of weeks ago. senate leader chuck schumer, the highest making jewish official american history demanding that netanyahu step aside and calling for early elections, as well. first of all, do you see that happening? what are the chances that the next reiteration of the israeli government does not move further to the right, if you do bring in somebody like ben-gvir or give more power to the more right of netanyahu elements in the government and society. there is pressure coming from the outside for a new elections, and certainly from within, from benny gantz. the other major figure in the opposition. but netanyahu, even with gantz s decision to leave the government has a solid majority in the knesset so he can stick it out as long as he has the support of his partners, the radical right. think of a. this government is likely to move further to the right, as a result. however, it is true, any gantz has played essentially a marginal role. now that you have ben-gvir demanding on a greater say in the war effort, that is likely to move things to the right in ways that are not good for the palestinians, obviously, and the israelis, as well. gantz poss resignation is actually quite puzzling to me and ways. if he is concerned with national security and israel, if he is concerned about the war effort, it strikes me that he would want to remain in the war cabinet and insert himself rather than take himself out and let the country continue its march to the right. and who knows what will happen. ben-gvir and most of us want to resettle the gaza strip. that is an ultimate disaster so it may be that gantz thought he could save himself but fight for another day and improve his political chances. but it leads to a suboptimal outcome for everybody else. what does that mean, stephen, for the united states in the situation? you got the secretary of state, antony blinken now heading to the region for the eighth time since october 7th. they are on the cusp of waking up to an israeli government that is more extreme and, as you just said, potentially calling for the resettling, the full reoccupation of gaza and the displacement, perhaps, of the palestinians. if you do bring in people, or not bring in, but to give people like into mark ben-gvir more power over the conduct of this war and gaza policy. i was perhaps the least optimistic person in washington when it came to a cease-fire anyways. and i am even less optimistic about this. there is no basis for agreement at this point. unfortunately, it seems, after all this terrible bloodshed, that the conflict is not yet ripe for a resolution and secretary of state tony blinken is going to find the same problems that he found on his previous trips. ambassador, your thoughts on what america should do now? as you probably heard my previous hours, spoke to former u.s. army major who resigned saying that america actually does have a lot of leverage over israel. perhaps more so than any other country in the region. he needs to step up and exerted to change course. as a diplomat, former diplomat, i should say. what you think america should do now as it sees this israeli government, and even just consistently moved to the right and to the extreme right with no fundamental change in policy, vis-@-vis the palestinians? in president biden s credit, to president biden s credit. he warned mr. netanyahu, the government was informed that this is an extremist government and then when mr. netanyahu instigated a constitutional coup in january of 23, it was followed by biden not refraining from inviting him to washington, to the white house for nine full months, and then the war rocha, et cetera, et cetera. so yes, the u.s. has all kinds of levers that it can use. it chose, until now, not to use them. and i heard your interview with major, and you made actually, you presented, submitted two premises, and you are right on both. both has letters and chooses not to use them, and, to a large extent, most of its lovers, because mr. netanyahu has been entranced and defiant and is actually seeking confrontation with biden. his plan right now is to try and stall and waste time and wait until america is sucked into its election cycle, full force. around september. and then he hopes that mr. trump will be elected. there is no question and there is no doubt about that. what the u.s. needs to do now is one of two things. it needs to do its basic calculus of how much our american interests being sergeant here. and that pertains to a possible escalation in lebanon and direct feed, rather than what the palestinians or pull out, meaning, you know, say to mr. netanyahu, do what ever the hell you want, but leave us out. which is obviously not a reasonable or realistic option. but what they can do. i know we don t have time. the u.s. can do and has not done until now is for president biden, not anyone else, not secretary of state link in, not national security advisor sullivan. for biden himself, for the president himself to stand out, stand up, and make a speech differentiating, drawing a distinction, a clear distinction between israel and mr. netanyahu and calling mr. netanyahu s bluff, if he believes that is going to be a blow. i don t know. will have to wait and see if the president is watching this, maybe he will heed your advice. ambassador, i noticed very late in israel. thank you so much for staying up for us. i really appreciate it. we appreciate it. we greatly appreciated. stephen cook, great to see you, as well. my friend, congratulations on the book next up, why a man dressed up as an exterminator started a hateful conspiracy theory that is spreading like wildfire ahead of november s election, then later on, caitlin clark left off with team usa. was she snubbed? 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first, thanks for having me on. i think it is right on target. what we saw after january 6th, 2021 was a period of time where you know, extremists kind of went into a short period of trying to regroup obviously the arrests and prosecutions had some substantial impacts on that world. but arrests and prosecutions aren t enough, and when you re not dealing with the root causes of the problem, these groups are able to kind of essentially regroup and then re- emerge even stronger. and i think that is exactly what we are seeing and what the southern poverty law center is pointing to. how does conspiracy theories play into the activity and rise of hate groups right now thinking about the harassment we saw play out at a migrant shelter in san diego. what led people to the january 6th insurrection, how is it that these baseless theories are resonating so much with people on the far right driving them to make these both online and real-life threats, even things like pizza gates that we saw several years ago? and menus, conspiracy theories are kind of a defining feature of extremist hate groups. one of the things that they do that is so important for them is that they offer a bridge of sorts and that conspiracy theories can reach a much broader audience. of course, we saw that on january 6th, in terms of the attack on the u.s. capitol. lots of different sorts of folks that ended up showing up by the thousands at the capitol that day. you had the proud boys, you had the three presenters. oath keepers, neo nazis, neo- confederate, a lot of folks that weren t necessarily affiliated with those groups. one thing they had in common is they all believed in this conspiracy theory about the stolen election. and you know, these kind of ideas are really, provide people a special sense that they are aware of things that the average person isn t aware of, and provides them with this kind of special knowledge, secretive knowledge, special insight. it really goes along with the idea, the that extremist groups offer to their adherents, that you re a part of a special population, special culture, special country, special race, special religion that is different and, quite frankly, superior to other groups. when you look at this record number of anti-lgbtq+ and white nationalist groups in 2023, numbering 186 and 165 respectively, why are these groups specifically, in your opinion, growing so significantly as they have grown? has there m.o. shifted and having this kind of hatred towards the lgbtq+ community? that is 18 many hot button issues that these kind of groups are good at identifying and then targeting and really spending a lot of time directing disinformation towards and propaganda and really trying to highlight the supposedly dangerous and risk a so that go along with, from their perspective, these hot button issues. immigration has been one for years, as well. and frankly, right now, they have at their fingertips, some of the most powerful technology in human history, in terms of social media platforms and the problems that you mentioned, the root problems that we are really not addressing, social media platforms, the lack of regulation around those. that will certainly be one of them coupled with national leadership that is helping essentially espouse some of the same ideas using literally, in the case of donald trump, the language of nazi germany to help promote these ideas. so they had these megaphones, whether it is national leaders or social media platforms at their disposal, that really empower them to a substantial extent. do you think that we have the adequate legal tools to take on these organizations x when you think about, as you were just mentioning, the issues of social media. it obviously rubs up against the issue of free speech in this country, that is always a find point when you re trying to go after these groups, he almost kind of have to wait until the free speech becomes actionable and they go out and carry out some kind of attack or potential violence. at which point it violates the law but up until the point of actually doing something about it, it falls, some would argue, under free speech. we have the legal tools the way that we have designated foreign terrorist organizations to go after isis and what have you? do we have enough adequate resources and tools to go after domestic terrorist organizations? i think we do have, i don t think a new statute is the answer, per se. i do think essentially utilizing resources that we have, being more aggressive, understanding that arresting and prosecuting is an important part of it, it is a necessary part of it but it is honestly not the only part of it. and then a civil issue, in terms of talk about the law. i do think that it needs some changes in that realm as it relates to social media platforms and being able to hold them more civilly accountable for the material that they are publishing and, of course, that means congressional changes to section 230. and i do think it is clear that social media platforms are not willing to take the kind of aggressive actions that are necessary to essentially cleanup their platforms. all right, professor pete sent me, it is a pleasure, thank you so much for joining us. i greatly appreciate your insights. thanks for having me. next, families are still being separated at the southern border. and why. and why. the best way to solve a problem is to keep it from happening. 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[sfx] ambient / laughing. last october, a peruvian family was taken into border patrol custody in the san diego area, during the process the parents were separated from their 18-month-old son, then released without him, according to a report from prison. if it wasn t for several military organizations that stepped in to help, that family may have never been reunited. they were able to track the boys whereabouts to a detention center hundreds of miles away, in texas. according to this february reporting from prison, legal advocates have accounted for at least 1000 instances of family separation across san diego county under this tactic known as street release, where migrants in custody are released without resources or shelter. at the start of his presidency, joe biden officially rescinded trumps zero-tolerance policy in the reunification task force that, according to dhs, has reunified 795 children with their parents, as of march. but despite those efforts, families are still being separated under a president who campaigned on a humane approach to immigration and strongly denounced the policies of his predecessor. now despite that, biden has signed an executive order this past week that drastically curtails humanitarian right to seek asylum. joining me now to discuss this, and more, is president and ceo of global refuge and a former policy director on the obama admin, and msnbc contributor who has done a lot of reporting on this and many other issues. it is great to have both of you with us. i will start with you, under a settlement reached in december with the families who were separated under the trump administration, border officials can still separate families in limited circumstances, such as if an adult poses a danger to a child or to national security. that didn t appear to be the case with the family that we just mentioned. to what do you oh these types of policies still taking place today? i think most people would be hearing about this now and still be shocked that this policy is still happening in this country? i think part of what we are seeing is a situation where policy does incentivize family separation. and that is true not just on u.s. soil but at the u.s.- mexico border, as well. when you think about even the new executive order, which exempts unaccompanied children, what that means is that a family that is fleeing for their lives, makes a possible choice of either allowing their children to travel unaccompanied across the border so that they can reach safety, or to remain in mexico obviously, families have experienced assault and far worse. in terms of the specific case that you are describing. i think this is where you know, there still some confusion on how policies are being implemented. we care for unaccompanied children and, obviously, it is horrific to see that even under this administration, we have echoes of what we saw as a real policy under president trump, which was essentially government sanctioned kidnapping. this report the site a difference between the family separations under trump versus biden, under trump federal immigration officials separated small children from their parents, whereas under biden, officials separated different family four nations, mainly parents and their adult children what does this say overall about our immigration system, specifically that these policies are continuing under a democratic president? is that just the result of vague policies and the lack of clarity as to how this should be implement it? or is it because there is something different at play here? i think what you re seeing is a biden administration that is falling into a political trap i do think we have to be very clear when we are talking about zero-tolerance, going back in history, that was such a dark chapter in our history, we had a trump administration that made decisions out of cruelty and made decisions out of the action of dehumanizing others. and here we have a biden administration that is falling into a political trap. over the last four years we have seen this admin that has made promises and that suddenly, it is shifting to the right. as you pointed out, ayman. i want to remember that the very very last week of the 2020 november election, the biden campaign released a video call separated. and in that video, just five days before everyone went out to vote, he specifically highlighted trumps zero policy initiative. he highlighted the cruelty. in here we are, just five months before the election, and as we have been discussing, he has been starting to sound and use language that does sort of remind us of donald trump. and at the end of the day, that is a political trap because the bottom line is, you cannot out trump trump when it comes to immigration and the border. what worked in 2020 was that humanity, as you described, anything that tries to shift to the right of donald trump is a failed political strategy. so to that point, krisher. makes a really good point with this flaming framing of a political trial when it comes to the issue of immigration. i do want to turn to biden s new executive order. any any time the seven day average of a legal border crossings reaches 2500 migrant entering the u.s. between legal ports of entry, with some exceptions, will be banned from claiming asylum and deported talk to me about how this is implemented. several department of homeland security officials responsible for carrying out the actions. on the condition of anonymity to msnbc, there is concern that the tension facilities across centers for migrants could quickly become overcrowded. what are you hearing about this and why? it is such an important question because for organizations like local refuge who work with asylum-seekers, the executive order raises a number of concerns. for one, there are very significant questions about its ultimate legality and enforceability. you know, the trump administration used the same authority to shut down the southern border and that was also really locked by federal courts. also raises some serious locations for asylum seeking families who are trying to seek protection because of these arbitrary numerical limits. i think the final important point is just understand that we know from trump era policies that were hard-line restrictions. they don t actually deter people from crossing the border. so we are perplexed by a policy that isn t going to actually be effective, that is harkening back to the trump administration, and i think it is a result of congressional inaction. but the administration could put in place a system that respects our border, but also respect our humanitarian and legal obligations. back in april, reported on how migrant women are being targeted by cartels as they wait and limbo at the mexican border to hear back about their asylum claims. i remember talking to you about it back then. how do you see biden s new order exacerbating this specific issue? i mean, as all of us know, the desperation isn t in there. what we are seeing is simply a more dangerous situation. what this means on the ground is that more families, their lives will be in the hands of the cartels. they will be held hostage. they will be exposed to sexual violence and sexual assault. many families will be sleeping in tent cities. many families will go hungry. many families will be repatriated to countries that are death sentences. many families will set a suddenly be staring into the united states at this time them, no matter the violence that they are facing, no matter the inhumanity, no matter the cruelty. no matter how many attempts there are by the cartels to end their lives, in this country, or try to make it harder for them to seek asylum. we all know that that desperation will only mean that these families will literally put their lives in the hands of the cartels to find other routes to cross into this country. that is what we are facing. a troubling situation for every one involved. thank you so much for the both of you, greatly appreciated. coming up, far right extremism spreads across israel, sanctioned by one of the country s top government officials. i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well jardiance! it s a little pill with a big story to tell i take once-daily jardiance at each day s start! as time went on it was easy to see i m lowering my a1c! jardiance works twenty-four seven in your body to flush out some sugar. and for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease, jardiance can lower the risk of cardiovascular death, too. serious side effects may include ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration that can lead to sudden worsening of kidney function, and genital yeast or urinary tract infections. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection ketoacidosis, or an allergic reaction. you may have an increased risk for lower limb loss. call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of infection in your legs or feet. taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. jardiance is really swell the little pill with a big story to tell! it s never a good time for migraine, especially when i m on camera. that s why my go-to is nurtec odt. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. it s the only migraine medication that helps treat & prevent, all in one. don t take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. people depend on me. without a migraine, i can be there for them. talk to your doctor about nurtec odt today. what tractor supply customers experience is personalized service. made possible by t-mobile for business. with t-mobile s reliable 5g business internet. employees get the information they need instantly. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. from pep in their step to shine in their coats, when people switch their dog s food to the farmer s dog, the effects can seem like magic. but there s no magic involved. 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anticipated games of the season, the first wnba clash between former college rivals, and now start rookies, angel rees and caitlin clark. the most notable moment came in the third quarter, when chicago sky guard kennedy carter hit checked caitlin clark before the ball is inbound, essentially pushing her to the floor your average fan but what a cheap shot, it is also the kind of hard lay one occasionally sees in pro sports. regardless, the incident sparked hot takes galore across the sports world. with many mostly male commentators calling on league officials to protect caitlin clark. other reactions were plainly inappropriate. espn host called mcafee called her, quote, a white b word. he later apologized. the chicago ran an editorial calling a hip check to sold. the median meltdown is part of what the atlantic dubs the one downside of gender equality in sports, a movement in women s basketball means more commentary from men who don t know what they re talking about. join me now to discuss this is the author of that piece, contributing writer for the l.a., jamel hill. it is great to have you on the show. you know, so much to unpack here. let me start with charles barkley and other male commentators who accused the wnba layers of being jealous of clark s popularity, the carter foul seems to have supercharged that view. what do you think that type of criticism gets wrong about how veterans are treating clark? well, one, thanks for having me on. one, i think a lot of them and who are commenting, they seem to come at the same time, forget about how they competed if they were former players in the way that charles barkley was , forget about how they commentate and frame a lot of the story lines that happen on the men s side, whereas when men challenge each other, when a new rookie comes in and there is some kind of. were, of course, you have want to see how misses person really who they say they are, it is often considered a competitive and natural part of the game. yet, with women, they seem to reduce their level of competitiveness to something that is very triggering, particularly when we are talking about a leak that a 70% black. they go with these code words, petty, jealousy. making it sound like we re talking about a real housewives reunion on bravo. this is not what this is, this is a competitive fire. and naturally, of course, when you are the talent, the generational talent that caitlin clark is, there s going to be a lot when you come to the next level. the women in the wnba are the escalators of the world at their sport. it is a reason why the olympic team has won seven gold medals in a row. it is a reason why they are 70 and three and they haven t lost a game since the 90s. where did the thing is women were coming from? this leak. if they re that good that would me naturally for any rookie, there s going to be a bit of a learning curve where they can understand the physicality and the way the game is played. it is very natural in men s sports when you go from college to the pros, that in college, you can t get away with in the pros. that is what makes it the pros. but the men who commentate seem to forget all of this when it comes to caitlin clark. you bring up an interesting point. i do want to ask you about that. there has been an obvious racial component to some of these debates. carter and angel rees, who were seen cheering after the foul are both black. and people are talking about that and explained that point how does race play into the media s explosive reactions to the story lines? will this is a collocated question, and a complicated answer. so let me go back and sum it up correctly. okay, again, the wnba is 70% black. so the face of the caitlin, they made out to be black. one of the tropes, and many of the tropes about the black women is that there confrontational, aggressive, petty, jealous, all the things. so when those traits are ascribed to women in general, when people want to talk competitively about women. i think, in this case, particularly sticks because you have that object of black versus white. let s be honest, another white player had done, it would not merely have been as inclusive as it was. because you have the dynamic of her and angel rees, a black player and a white layer having a personal rivalry, it becomes racially charged by the optics. i m old enough to remember when johnson, when they were college rivals came over to the pros. a lot of what people talked about then, how their talents are characterized was based off racial perceptions in this country of both of them. i don t know why people think that this wouldn t be alive and well in this rivalry, but it is. and angel rees has bore the brunt of a lot of this because she chose to, you know, sorta be confident about the level of play that she has when they were in college. and listen, i don t agree that she should have been clapping when kennedy carter took her down but at the same time, within the context of a broader rivalry. they took some cheap shots at each other, that s what happened. again, it is interesting how the same things that are celebrated, marketed, and that fans love on one side of the game, a totally different gender, they are suddenly clutching their pearls on the other side. i grew up a little bit in detroit. i know very well what a violent or tough basketball game looks like. but to ask you about something you brought up really quick. we are almost out of time, though. the debate that was parked this weekend about caitlin clark being left off the u.s. olympic rascal team. some describe it as a snub. she is still a rookie, though. she s a two-time nieces mentor winner. has not included the standout rookie before or any rookie is before, what is your reaction and do you agree with calling it a snub? i don t think it is a snub and i honestly wasn t surprised. i thought this months ago. i think she is going to have a pretty hard time making the team. and that is not about her ability. i think eventually caitlin clark, i think this is almost a guarantee. about the transition, she went from playing college ball to play in a professional league within a matter of weeks, when they were holding the child in their camp, she wasn t able to play in any of that. she has some international experience but not a lot. she is at a position where it is a little bit tougher because you are a guard a little bit on the slight side. she is adjusting to the physicality where the international level is more. it is a very successful team there is a lot of people that do not get on this team and work this time around. and so i think if we just take the caitlin clark nests away from it and people will probably better understand the decision. like you said, the women s team is the most dominant team in the sports. it is tough to break into at any level, let alone your rookie year. thank you so much, greatly appreciate having this conversation with you tonight appreciate you. 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for me the for the people that came to help, it was really just all in a day s work situations like this really show everyone and certainly showed us in this instance just how much all of us out in the world depend on all of you and again, i want to thank the crew from medic 24 firefighter hayden campbell, firefighter, paramedic, atom iq, and fire inspector paramedic, kimberly booser, who helped bring gray into the world. i got to be reunited with them over the weekend and i also learned when i spoke to adam and his crew, they were just as happy as i was to have a friendly female face on that crew. thank you. to kim for taking charge because man, she did. we also do want to just take a moment to thank all of the first responders here in the district of columbia, but across the country that all of us trust with our lives every day, because you really have no idea when you might need to make that call and having those people on the other end of the line makes all the difference in the world. they are truly lifesavers, so thank you to all of them, thanks to our panel, thanks to all of you for joining us. i m kasie hunt. don t go anywhere. cnn news central starts right this morning. a former president meets with his probation officer, you wonder if james madison had that in mind when writing the constitution what can donald trump say that might impact? his sentence? tony blinken back in the middle east set to meet with the israeli prime minister just after the dramatic hostage rescue operation in gaza. and a key number of his war cabinet resigns and now the us is calling for a new un security council vote and back-to-back shark attacks does miles apart part off the coast of florida officials are now issuing a warning because of it. i m kate bolduan. would john berman, sarah sayyed is out. this is cnn news central morning something no former president has ever done donald trump will sit for a pre-sentencing interview with this probation officer. this interview will be part of the report the probation department will submit to judge juan were shot ahead of trump s sentencing on july 11, and for normal defendants it could be a significant factor in determining whether there will be present time. of course, donald trump is not a normal defendant. will this now cnn, chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller jaume, we ve got some new information about how this will be similar and different to other meetings like this. so the normal process is that the probation officer sits with the defendant and in some cases, in this case, the defendant s lawyer and they go through a tick list. it s what is your home situation? du you live in a stable environment? do you have employment? can you get employment? are you suffering from any drug addiction? what is your criminal background as it violent in this case, donald trump is going to be different from a lot of defendants. in fact, the vast majority he lives in a triplex at the top of a building with his name on it. he has no criminal record. and yet like any other defendants, he does have multiple other open felony cases but as far as employment, drugs, and so on the question that they re trying to resolve at the probation department as a couple of things, but key to it is is he a good candidate for the community corrections environment in english, that means the prison correction environment, or being on probation without going to jail, but having to accept the conditions of probation. now, a lawyer present in bys zoo this will not be in-person and todd blanche will be there with donald trump. how unusual is that? is that what joe schmo, defendant normally gets? joe schmo defendant usually it comes down to see the probation officer, their probation officer wants to get a look at him or her, get a sense of that. but during covid, the system had to keep going. so virtual probation interviews became a thing. and this makes sense because he s in another city. you said probation here. what would probation exactly mean for donald trump so probation is if you are convicted of a crime and they say we re not going to incarcerate you, but we need to check up on you to make sure you re not going to re-offend or you re not re-offending parole is when you go to jail and they let you out early and they check on you after the fact. so this is an interesting thing. the manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg went to a lot of trouble to bring this case and to get this conviction. and he said in his controversial day one memo that he wants less people to go to jail especially in non and violent crimes, but he didn t single out white-collar crimes. so we don t know what they re going to ask for. and then very finally, john, this meeting will happen today well, we hear what comes out of it or how will we know what comes out of it? so technically we shouldn t hear what comes out of it the psr or the pre-sentencing report goes from the new york city department of probation to that state supreme court judge juan merchan. and it is to help him as he decides on the sentence, whether it s in jail or prison, or whether it s on probation. didn t what those conditions should be if it s probation, donald trump will probably have to check in with a probation officer once a month. sometimes once a week. he sounds more like a once a month candidate. and make sure he doesn t get arrested again, that s days out of trouble. john miller and education as always, thanks so much for being here this wall civics lesson really is no. i mean, all this stuff is new to me. donald trump will learn a lot about it today, no doubt, it s good that you don t know about. i appreciate that. so far yet, but the things john miller doesn t know. so we ll hunter biden, take the stand or are we now just hours away from closing arguments very soon, you could have that answer as hunter biden s trial gets back underway in delaware next hour, the president s don is facing multiple charges related to a 2018 drug purchase. he has pleaded not guilty. so where did things go now after what end? the week with the week ending last week with very dramatic and emotional testimony. marshall cohen is outside court for us. how soon do you expect to have that answer of where this really is headed and how fast march kate good morning. we should find out pretty soon because the proceedings resume here in wilmington, delaware at 8:10 and am just about one hour from now. and one of the first items on the agenda is to have an answer from the defense. they told the judge that they want wanted to take the weekend to think this over, figure out the final contours of their strategy. if hunter is going to take the stand in his own defense, or if they re going to rest their case to move on to closing arguments. now why might they want to do that? we ve always said it s unlikely and it would be incredibly risky. but before the trial, they said then some of their court filings that one of the things that they would want him to tell the jury if he decided to testify in his own defense was that he has been cleaned sober, and law abiding since 2019. kate, the jury is heard so much testimony about his rampant drug abuse, really painting him anyway sorry struggling and negative light they said, if he did testify, he would want to convey to the jurors directly that he s been cleaned for several years now, but of course, if he did testify, prosecutors could grill him and they said in filings that they would probably want to bring up his discharge from the navy ten years ago after a positive drug test and that they might try to attack his credibility by bringing up that in their view, he not only light on this gun for him, but he s also lied on his taxes. so a huge decision, it would be a risky move. we should find out in about one hour so then add it all up with the caveat of it s uncertain what we re going to hear right when court picks back up, but how soon could the jury have this case well, if he doesn t testify, then it s time for closing arguments. both sides will be able to give their final push to the jury on why they think they should get a conviction or an acquittal, then there s jury instructions as well from the judge educating the jurors, instructing them on the laws in this case. the elements of the alleged crimes and how they should conduct their deliberations. now, one of the things that the defense wants the judge to instruct the jury you re about today during those instructions, is what they call their theory of the case. the simplest, most straightforward reason why in their view, this trial should to end with three not guilty verdicts. and they told the judge that she should instruct the jury that hunter biden, quote, did not believe that he was either a drug user or addict at that time when he bought the gun and when he possessed the gun, they ve said all along that if he did not know, he was a drug addict, if he did not no, he was a user than he cannot be convicted of these crimes. so it could happen today, kate, it very likely will and i ll pick back up an hour from now. thank you, marshall. appreciate the reporting. still ahead for us secretary of state back in the middle east and about to meet with israeli prime minister prime minister now facing a new reality after that dramatic hostage rescue operation in gaza is quickly followed by a key resignation from his war cabinet. the test now for blinken ahead as we learn new details about that rescue operation. plus nvidia is one of the hottest stocks of the year of 144%. and now the major change hitting today the market s about to open and they ve woken a monster that is the new reaction from caitlin clark after learning, she will not be playing on the us olympic team in the most anticipated moment of this election. and the stakes couldn t the higher the president and the former president s one stage moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debates 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liebermann live in tel aviv this morning. what a tumultuous few days there aren t john, this was such a celebratory moment and it s still is after a major operation to rescue four israeli hostages from a densely populated area in gaza. but the israeli government itself is already fractured following that with prime minister benjamin netanyahu trying to thank gone to one of his war cabinet members who just quit the government hospital in central israel. they hug does if there was no tomorrow because for so long they feared there wouldn t be four israeli hostages were rescued from gaza in israeli operation on saturday after eight months of captivity among the rescued, one of the most well-known hostages, noa argamani, were united with her father here video from october 7 showed her pleading. were held as kidnappers drove her into gaza and you d like a shield that s her father. thanked he israeli military for the rest. but reunions like this remain all too rare. this is only the third successful israeli rescue operation since the war began. while elite media reunited with her son, almog, one day before her birthday yes. still androids and 20 hostages in gaza and this will be want a deal. now the daring daytime operation in the new sayyed refugee camp in central gaza lifted the spirits of a nation but unity was fleeting as anti-government protests demanded a deal to secure the release of the remaining hostages, and a ceasefire saudi on sunday war cabinet member benny gantz resigned from the government, accusing prime minister benjamin netanyahu of slow walking the war for his own political gain netanyahu vowed to keep pushing towards total victory over hamas the cost of which was once again apparent witnesses in gaza describe israel s operation as hell on earth inside a dense residential area with the crowds of mid-day positive juno an increasing bombardment started hitting everywhere something we never witnessed before maybe 150 rockets fell and less than ten minutes palestinians rushed the wounded to ambulances in this disturbing video, many, including women and children, bore the horrific scars of heavy bombardment. i ll aqsa martyrs hospital quickly filled with the injured, the dead next were eating people s remains. we pulled out six martyrs, all torn up. children and women the operation drew swift and severe international condemnation and hamas called it a massacre. the palestinian ministry of health in gaza says more than 270 were killed in the israeli strikes. 700 wounded which would make it one of the deadliest days for gaza in months. the idf disputes those numbers, saying it estimated the number of casualties was less than 100. cnn cannot independently verify these figures on sunday, national security adviser jake sullivan told cnn s dana bash that innocent people were tragically killed in this operation he called on hamas to accept a ceasefire. that s on the table right now. and the best way to end this war is for hamas to say yes to the deal president biden announced and that israel has accepted what s unclear now is how easy it is to accept this deal from israel sayyed with guns, quitting the government netanyahu has even more pressure from his far-right coalition partners who have threatened the dissolve the government if he accepts the ceasefire deal. so this is not at all an easy path forward as blinken expected to arrive here later on today, john. yeah, it will be interesting to see the impact of the hostage rescue combined with benny gantz leaving the war cabinet. the impact that will have on negotiating oren liebermann. terrific new details in that report. thank you so much so temperatures, so hot they could kill you, were millions of americans need to be extremely careful today and then a catastrophic failure that is what officials say after a large chunk of one of the country s most beautiful highways cracked and then collapsed in a landslide if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the 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shark attacks in the united states over the weekend, three people were injured in two incidents in florida on friday and the men died in hawaii on saturday. this is what we know authority say a 39-year-old man died after what they describe as a shark encounter off the coast of maui, the first fatal attack in hawaii since a snorkel or die there in 2022, the day before, two separate attacks happened in florida in an area between destine and panama city beach in the span of less than 90 minutes and only about four months biles apart, according to authorities are 45-year-old woman suffered significant trauma to her midsection and pelvic area, as well as the amputation of her left lower arm. and the second attack, the victims were two girls between the ages of 15 and 17. the first victim suffered what officials described a significant injuries to one upper and one when lower extremity, both requiring the application of a tourniquet, the second victim has minor wounds to her right foot. one county officials said, what happened is both tragic and terrifying, but historically, shark attacks are exceedingly rare. they re highly unusual and it s extremely unusual for two to happen in the same afternoon when four miles of one another is the sheriff mentioned we re reaching out to us to speak to subject matter experts as to what may, you know, what may be causing that but golf temperatures, the steering current, whatever that is and you may remember that on may 28, there was another incident and galveston beach where a 19-year-old woman was bitten in her left hand by a shark, but survived as reported by cnn affiliate k prc on sunday, that south walton fire this strict in florida issued a warning on x, say the following. we are guests in the gulf. the post says, we all must accept some amount of risk when entering the water that does not take away from these two ladies whose lives are changed forever, but looking for someone to blame is not the answer. they said over the weekend, walton county officials were flying yellow and purple flags for moderate surf hazards and the precedence of dangerous marine life after what happened there friday, john, back to you. all right. rafael romo following this forest, raphael. thank you very much kate. now for eight months in captivity, four israeli hostages are now back home after a dramatic rescue operation. can saturday. and from ever all of everything we ve seen, it was overwhelming for the families of the four that were rescued. yet there are still believed to be 116 israeli hostages still being held captive in gaza today, meaning so many families are still left waiting one of those families is the family of abbe own abby s an american citizen who lives in israel five of her family were either killed or taken hostage in the hamas attacks two of her family, eight-year-old, carmella dan, and 13-year-old noa dan, you see them there. they were killed 12-year-old arrays and his sisters, 16-year-old. so har they were taken hostage and released in november. their father oh, fair calderon. he s still being held in gaza. an abbe on joins us now. abby, thank you for coming back on we ve talked so many times now in the last eight months, how does it feel today? we re how did it feel even on saturday getting the news that the four hostages were rescued and back safely and israel it was super emotional we were we were out. were outdoors with friends and family and we heard the news. and literally she started crying it s it was unmatched. it s unbelievable almost that it was real. and we thought for a second it was a rumor. and then we got confirmation and i think we just cried for hours because as much as we want the 116 for everyone s be home to know that for families will hold again, was amazing it s also now been eight months that ofer has been held hostage what is the latest, if anything, have you heard anything is he still believed to be alive he s believed to be alive. we are fighting to bring them home alive. look, last week was an emotional week it started off with four hostages being declared dead. three of them, amir, i m cooper, chaim peri, yoram metzger, from your odds and so it continues to be a living trauma for sauron areas for their mother, for all of our extended family to know that the people that are there or not safe, that every single day, every minute, every hour, it s urgent that we get an out of it. we get them home and seeing those four people, three of whom we ve seen in a video, alive to know that they were killed in captivity only makes this more urgent. and the fight for over more do allow yourself to feel disappointment when your heart also verse for joy for those families, just the pain of knowing that affairs was not among the four this time, how how do you deal with those feelings? it was it was this really intense moment because they said, it s no argamani and three men and i was like i just, you know, my whole body expanded and i was i was shocked because men are not the category of people that would be coming out in some sort of agreement. and so it was really, really surprising and ultimately you feel joy and happiness for anyone that comes out because it is in nightmare. it is a nightmare of eight months of 248 days for every single family member for the hostages, for anyone involved in this conflict. and we just know that if a hostages would be released, that any any of the challenges of this conflict would immediately be deflated. and that s our goal, is to make sure that every single one of them come home. and that this conflict ends you have made the point. i ve looked back at our conversations. i mean, you ve made the point in every conversation that we ve had to say that you don t want to see any deaths anymore, whether it be on the side of israel or amongst the people in gaza and how does that feel today okay. everything is devastating and heartbreaking. i have never in my life as an american or someone that lived in israel for the last decade i ve never lived through a war on the soil where i reside. and to know what happened, turn october 7, and to think about and appropriate response, there s no such thing but to know that the terror to happen them seventh or any of the deaths that have happened since are all unnecessary. there has to be a different way. and i just know the first step toward that solution is bringing the hostages home. i mean, i mourn every single leinz. there s no question. and i wish that our leaders, both in israel and the united states and around the world with steph, up even higher than they are now, and figure out a way to end this. this is something that cannot continue. now for family members, not for the rest of the world, not for the people who are suffering on the ground gaza, but the hostages and palestinians, it has to end president biden s national security adviser was asked what impact he thinks this rescue operations saturday will have on what we re talking about on the ceasefire negotiations with hamas. let me play for you. what jake sullivan said yesterday, api it s really hard to say, right now. it s hard to say how hamas will process this particular operation and what it will do to its determination about whether it will say yes or not. we have not gotten a formal answer from hamas i set this time even before the bigger impact on overall negotiations. i mean, just what does your gut tell you that you think that the rescue operation of these four hostages from the hands-off hamas will mean for oh, fair i hope if he hears that he feels some sort of hope that his army and its country are fighting for him but i truly believe that there has to be a negotiated agreement because this was a dangerous operation, because soldiers, for the hostages, and for anyone in the acidity. and we don t want to see more death. we want to see the 116 brought home with the minimum amount of death that s that s everyone s goal. they were taken from a party from their beds, from their homes. these are innocent civilians that should be brought home and the pressure in my opinion, needs to be on hamas to release them because if that pressure is big enough, then we get to a place where we can negotiate an agreement i feel so much joy that these four people are home, but i don t believe that putting our soldiers and hostages and other civilians in harm s way is a it s the best the best self forward abby. thank you so much. i m so thankful to see you again and i look forward to the de that we re talking about, the return of all fair thank you so much for coming on. it s going to happen thank you so much, john wright new comments this morning from caitlin clark, the star wnba rookie speaking for the first time after learning, she is not on the roster of the us olympic team competing in paris. cnn s coy wire is with us this morning. this was surprising. i think to people who maybe have just been introduced to the wnba this year yeah, john, there s no doubt about it. there are very strong opinions on both sides of this debate of whether or not caitlin clark should have made team usa for women s hoops many say it s a missed opportunity. the indiana fever phenom has helped shatter viewership and attendance records dating all the way back to her iowa hawkeyes college days. and now in, the, w, she s currently top 15 in the wnba and scoring nearly 17 points per game. she s coming off her best game as a pro scoring 30 points on friday. now, many others are saying that it s completely justifiable that she is not on this projected roster. take a look at this roster of four the 12th players have no previous olympic experience of those for each of them, or at least to time wnba all-stars, none of these players on this projected roster are under the age of 26. clark still just 22, says that being left off of this roster will only make her better listen yeah, they called me and let me know before everything came out, which was really respectful of them and i appreciated that they the same for ever go that made the team for every girl that didn t make the team. yeah, there s a lot of players in an olympic pool, so it wasn t like i was only when they had to call that a mccloud few calls. honestly, no disappointment. i think it just gives you something to work for you. it s a dream, you know, hopefully we can be there think it s just a little more motivation do you remember that? and, you know, hopefully in four years before you comes back around you and i can be there. she got the call on the bus and she texts me to let me know and i just tried to keep our spirits. i mean, the thing she said was, hey coach, they woke a monster, which i thought was awesome. they woke a monster john love that line of a us women are seeking an eighth straight gold at the olympics dating back to 1996, the olympics or just 46 days away, and other basketball news, john berman, celtics are to know nba finals against the dallas mavericks. i m convinced 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changing the fabric of our country. they are destroying our country in nevada is being turned into a dumping ground and you are the whole country she is being turned into a an absolute dumping ground. the illegal immigrants are turning and they re turning at a level that nobody s ever seen before. they re fighting. our families that some of donald trump s message to supporters at an nevada campaign rally yesterday. trump campaign has high hopes for the state that joe biden won and 2020 from the stage, trump focused on slamming biden s new executive action on border security, and he launched his own latino americans for trump coalition. there s also new cnn reporting that president joe biden is considering following his recent border move with a second move on immigration that could protect some undocumented spouses of us citizens from deportation cnn, steve contorno, arlette saenz, both working different angles of this for us. so steve, what more did you hear from donald trump yesterday well, it was a continued attack kate on joe biden s record and that has been central to his outreach to latino voters in black voters and other voters of color. essentially, that your life under trump presidency was better than it has been under joe biden. that is the central case that he is making to voters of, of every shot stripe and it s coming even as you hear that that dark rhetoric about immigration, trump is promising to deport millions of americans. and one of the largest deportation operations in the country s history, if he wins and yet he. is polling suggests that he continues to make headway with latino, spanish-speaking voters four years ago, joe biden won latino voters, handle these 65% of those voters, one for joe biden, trump just got 32%. now, you re seeing almost parody not only nationally, but he s battleground states like nevada and trump also did make a promise that will certainly affect a lot of latino workers who work in the culinary industry. he made a promise about what he would do with tipped wages if he wins. take a listen when i get to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips, people making we re gonna do that right away. first taking office because it s been a point of contention for years and years and years. and you do a great job of service, should take care of people now, the culinary union that represents nevada workers are very powerful union put out a statement blasting this proposal. they said quotes nevada workers are smart enough to know the difference between real solutions while campaign promises of a convicted felon, kate that s quite a statement coming from the union right there. steve arlette, what are you learning then about this new reporting on another immigration move potentially by president biden okay. sources have told cnn that the biden administration is considering a new step that could potentially offer legal status to undocumented immigrants who are married to us citizens, officials are looking at an existing authority called parole in place, which would shield the certain groups of undocumented immigrants from deportation and allow them to stay in the country and worked at legally while some of them would be able to seek citizenship, it s expected that this could impact about 750,000 to 800,000 undocumented immigrants at this moment. and it comes as it could potentially appeal to latino voters in states like nevada, arizona, and georgia. but this also comes as the administration is trying to shore up support, not just with latinos, but also progressives and immigration advocates. many groups access frustration with president biden s executive action last week that essentially shut off the asylum process for undocumented immigrants are who are coming to the country illegally when a certain daily threshold hold is met, you ve heard progressives who said that that is similar to policies that were adopted adopted during the trump era, and groups like the aclu have threatened to sue the admin ministration to try to stop this over the weekend, a homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas defended the administration s moves. take a listen but i respectfully disagree with the aclu. i anticipate they will sue us. we stand by the legality of what we have done. we stand by the value proposition. it s not only a matter of securing the border, martha, we have a humanitarian obligation to keep vulnerable people out of the hands of exploitative smugglers now it all comes as president biden is really trying to address a politically vexing issue increasingly, immigration, border security has risen in the list of concerns for voters heading into 2024, you take a look at polling at many believed that trump has would have better policies than biden. but at the same time, the president is i m also trying to shore up with key parts of his constituency, constituencies are heading into that november election. are let thank you so much, steve contorno. thank you as well. john wright with us now, senior spokesperson and adviser to the biden campaign aide or an l rod. thank you so much for being with us. this proposal reported proposal out there to provide some kind of legal status for the undocumented spouses of us citizens. what would that be designed to do? who would that be designed to help? yeah well john i certainly don t want to get into the front of the white house s announcement on this. but what i will say is the following, president biden is how to take matters into his own hands. is president, because congress failed to act. the most historic bipartisan piece of legislation that we have seen in front of congress in over a decade was stopped because maga republicans list sent to their leader, donald trump, who said, i don t want to give joe biden president joe biden, uh, when i don t want to give him a political victory during a 2024 presidential campaign year so president biden has had to take matters into his own hands by issuing executive actions that will will, will, will improve the situation at the border because congress failed to act and congress failed to act again, not because of democrats, but because of maga, republicans. how does providing a legal status for undocumented spouses of us citizens? how does that help people help the situation at the border well, again, i don t want to get in front of the white house on this, but i what i will say is that it s important that the president shall leadership on this, which is what president biden is doing. you see donald trump on the campaign turnout, tell talking about the border, talking about the crisis at the border, blaming democrats when really democrats are the ones john, who want to get something done, where are the ones who worked with republicans across the aisle to negotiate a historic deal that republicans immediately shot down in congress could have easily pass both chambers. they wouldn t let it pass because donald trump said to speaker johnson and other republicans in congress, i don t want to give joe biden to win this cycle. so president biden is doing what he can. he s using every lever his disposal, which of course is, you know, john, when you re the president united states, you can do a lot, but you are somewhat limited in terms of what you can do without congress acting. so it s very important that president biden, you do what he can in the executive branch, but he also hopes that congress will act hello, to play some sound from before. one of donald trump s events in nevada yesterday. in its rhetoric from marjorie taylor greene and another republican supporter. and it s the type of thing that we have heard on the trail recently, which is almost messianic rhetoric concerning donald trump. listen to this oh president trump as a convicted felon what you want to know, something the man that i worship is also a convicted felon and he was murdered on a roman cross is sensitive park to worship and bring back the grid is present we ve ever known in our generation so what do you think when you hear rhetoric like that i don t even know what to think, john, i mean, look, i i m not going to speak for the american people, but i think that rhetoric speaks for itself. and what our focus is, john, on this campaign is made make sure that every single voter understands the contrast understands what is at stake that donald trump and his maga allies are focused on seeking revenge and retribution. they are running a negative campaign that is not focused on the american people, but it s focused on themselves. we are making sure that the american people understand that president joe biden in this fighting for them. he wants to continue his policies of lowering costs for families lowering prescription drug costs continuing his agenda of economic freedom. whereas are republicans are focusing, focusing on themselves and donald trump has made it very clear that if he steps back into the white house, he will rule as a dictator on day one. he will seek, you will use the white house to seek political are the engine retribution on his political enemies? he is said, things that, you know, he s, he s praised the third reich. he s used racist rhetoric at every chance that he has. president biden has delivered for the american people 15 million jobs record unemployment growth when it comes to latinos, in particular, at one point, john, when president donald trump was an office, there was 47% unemployment among latinos. joe biden has created over 4.8 million jobs for latinos. we want to make sure that every single voter, all latino voters, understand what s at stake and what president biden has delivered for them? adrian elrod, appreciate you being with us morning. thank you okay. more than 20 million people from california to arizona could be seeing triple digit or near triple-digit heat. let s get over to cnn s derek van dam tracking this one for us. derek, what are you looking at? yeah. kate, 30 is coming out of phoenix arizona warning that the high risk of heat stress or heat-related illness is present here in the city today, if you don t have access to adequate cooling or adequate hydration as well, they ve had 14 consecutive days where the mercury in the thermometer has climbed above one in hundred degrees and we have no relief really insight, especially this week, 20 million americans under some sort of heat alert, including heat warnings for vegas, sin city. it is sisley and their 11 consecutive days with temperatures above 100 degrees. this is the warmest start in the month of june for n

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cost of war. we didn t have any us forces on the ground. second, we ve been working for months to support israel and its efforts anything that it s an illicit activity, they re going to engage in for a profit. the fbi el paso can confirm that members of brynn have crossed into the united states from london. this is cnn newsroom with max foster hello, and a warm welcome to our viewers, joining us from around the world. and max foster is monday, june the 10th, 9:00 a.m. here in london, 10:00 a.m. in paris brussels, and berlin as europe s starts the week on a shifting political landscape that seems to be moving further and further as well to the right, results are coming in for the next european parliament and far-right parties are projected to win a record number of seats after four days of voting in 27 countries. exit polls show the mainstream center-right european people s party will remain the largest group. european commission chief ursula von der leyen celebrating her party success, whilst acknowledging that extremes on both ends of the spectrum are gaining traction. the center is holding but it is also true that the extremes on the left and on the right have gained support and this is why the result comes with great responsibility for the parties in the center we may differ on individual points but we all have an interest in stability and we all want a strong and effective europe will protesters in paris express their outrage at gains for french right-wing parties, which took more than one in three votes cast according to the official results french president emmanuel macron has dissolved parliament and called snap elections in the coming weeks, johnny s now claire sebastian, we re focusing on france because it s the most dramatic story but if we take the top three mayes, germany, france, and italy whilst the bigger picture is that the center ground held their position in key countries. the right surged, yeah. i mean, obviously particularly dramatically in france where the national rally, which is a big yes, far-right party, took more than 30%, more than double what emmanuel macron s renaissance party took. but the afd in germany, they ll turn to for germany party also was second place. this is a party that has been deemed so far, right. that marine le pen of the national rally actually kicked them out. you can say they re of the id grouping which was already seen as the most the extreme right grouping in the european parliament today. now gained seats in germany and in italy, giorgia meloni s brothers of italy, he had a really strong showing as well. so it is, as you say, these key, these key countries, these key parties that are now really mainstreaming these far-right policies. and in terms of those policies, take a listen to it. marine le pen said in france after this result ready to exercise power if the french justice during these future legislative session, we are ready to rebuild the country, ready to defend the interests of the french, ready to put an end to mass emigration, ready to make the purchasing power of the french a priority? pretty ready to begin the re-industrialize creation of the country. overall, we are ready to rebuild the country, ready to revive friends ready to put an end to mass immigration. no surprise that, that is always been the sort of core focus of the european far-right, as at, as it has been gradually rising over the past years and decades, purchasing power interesting one there. this is of course, an appeal to people in europe who have been suffering under the weight of a cost of living crisis are worried about the cost of policies like the green deal support for ukraine, things like that. so i think this is a real show of where we are, right? we ve seen five years where we ve seen increasingly more europe with this green deal with the joint approach to covid with the solidarity. have ukraine, these parties and are looking not to exit europe like we saw with brexit, but to control europe from within and to reduce its influence over these kinds of, these parts of life. and the most profound immediate impact is this french general election it s not as if macron is gonna be out completely, but he may end up having to deal with a far-right prime minister effectively. and this is just ahead of the olympics. why on earth did he choose to call this election? many people are baffled by it. yeah, i mean, the eyes of the world will be on france at this point. he says that he s looking for clarity, right? he needs to have clarity for the people effectively for the legislature to reflect the will of the people given the strong showing for the far-right, but it s a gamble, right? he wanted to go his way and it leaves a source telling cnn that convinced, convinced, convinced will be the approach in the lead up to the election if it does go his way, he then we ll gain a greater mandate among it for his liberal agenda right now, he has lost the already has absolute majority who s already struggling to get policies through. so in that sense, perhaps it has nothing to lose, but if not, he then has to, perhaps if the far-right gain the most seats in parliament, cohabit with the far far-right prime minister. and then we look ahead. of course, the 2027 when francis having presidential elections, when marine le pen has her sights clearly set on that i think claire. thank you wasn t just emmanuel macron, but faced a stinging rebuke in germany, as claire says, the social democrats of chancellor olaf scholtz score their worst ever result, just 14% that was the moment that the far right party alternative for germany learn the exit polls show it winning 16% of the vote to take second place. they re the party known for its anti-immigrant policies has risen from a fringe group to a huge mainstream presence. now now, let s even do maury is the head of the us and america s program at chatham house joins us from london because lesly a lot of people suggesting that without trump, none of this would have happened well, i think that might be a stretch. i mean, if you really think at the global context which is driving so much of what we re seeing the covid, pandemic, low growth in europe the effects of climate change, the pressure on the energy transition in the aftermath of russia s invasion of ukraine. the far right has been gaining traction for some time in europe. this is clearly at a different level, and there s no doubt as you ve suggested, max, that that donald trump and those around him have worked in insignificant ways below the radar, above the radar to try and give a voice to far-right elements across europe and certainly we ll see this as a success story for the conservative movement to which they re committed. but i think that they, as we ve said with donald trump and with trumpism, there is an argument to be made that trump is a symptom of a number of underlying causes that are leading. many people to suffer much more harshly the effects of those, those constant, those sort of global factors that i ve just outlined. the unequal effects of low growth are significant and the ability of the far-right to displace that frustration onto immigrants, which in fact what we need is a sound immigration policy to help solve some of the problems of labor shortages that europe will face two and the us is obviously needing to think about this instead, we re seeing quite the reverse that even the center is tacking to the right because of the pressure from this far-right s it would strengthen though. donald trump wouldn t it arguably in terms of foreign policy, because lead is like marine plant will lappin would be expected to closer to his alignment. and work more closely with him. and many of the far-right leaders du, identify with a lot of what trump says. so if he becomes president, he would have more allies in europe i think that s right. i think it s clear that donald trump has last i ve said ben a fan of those. he was quietly and sometimes not so quietly supportive of brexit and the far-right in the uk, certainly in europe. but if you look at the broader a european pushing right now, some of it in light of the anticipation of a possible trump election, is to work together to build strategic autonomy and coherence within europe. this will see anything but that right now we re seeing really a pull inwards france is going to be focused very much internally two days before the washington summit, before the native summit in washington, dc france will be admired and in a domestic elections. so the focus internally this will inevitably make it more difficult for europe to think strategically about the possibility of a trump election. but yes, you re absolutely right that for donald trump and those around him, this is a movement that they would like to see a focus more on sovereignty, on nationalism anti-immigration, and especially pushing back against the climate change agenda, oil and gas being absolutely critical to the trump s supporters so that, that movement i think is one that the former president we ll, certainly welcome you ve mentioned environment, you mentioned immigration, one of the key elements of the right-wing campaigns appears to be inflation as well, cost of living and that s appears to be what has tapped into this election. a tapped into people and got them a lot of support, something that the mainstream moderate parties haven t really managed to do. and then this second issue, which was ukraine, which ties into it because of the cost of supporting ukraine. we don t know exactly where trump s stands on ukraine, but where does all that tie together? well, as you rightly pointed out inflation, low growth, stalled growth, the effects of that are highly unequal. we re seeing that even in the united states where the growth has been much stronger when jobs have been a job creation has been very good for the whole. but the effects are still so highly unequal and it s those voters that are suffering the effects not only of the invasion of ukraine, of the sanctions of the so-called poly crisis are our voice finding their voice through leaders that are mobilizing them around and gender that isn t clear will actually deliver for that the benefits that they need to see the question of how you invest in a way that distributes goods more across the whole of society is an absolutely critical when it s one that people on the left are thinking very seriously about. but the right has been much more effective in certain corners at mobile slicing, those voters were simply not seeing the benefit they re experiencing, the hurt of those problems of growth and they re attributing it to the migrants that are coming across the borders they re seeing climate change is increasing their cost of living. so that message has been very powerful and one that europe is struggling with asieh is, is president biden in the united states to communicate a new way of thinking that can really put forward and broad and longer-term agenda very difficult to see those games if you re on the bottom end of the income scale. yeah, let s even geomorphic in london really appreciate time has ever now in the coming hours of probation officer is set to interview donald trump as part of the sentencing phase of his hush money trial. the meeting will be virtual with his attorney present as trump is back on the campaign trail, trump s advisers are eager for him to leave, talk of his legal troubles out of his speeches. but so far, that s not the case. cnn s alayna treene reports former president donald trump in his first campaign rally since being convicted in a manhattan courtroom last week surprisingly, did not talk about that trial specifically during his speech. instead, he spoke about his legal troubles more broadly. he also criticized special counsel jack smith, who was not part of this case referring to him it s a quote, dumb son of a and also claimed that the weaponization of the justice department in this country is worse than what you would find in a third world country. take a listen to how he put it i tell you what. no third world country has weaponization, where they go after political candidates, like we have either this guy can t get elected anything without cheating. the only way he can get elected is to cheat. now, despite that rhetoric, i will tell you that from my conversations with donald trump s campaign, they really do want him to leave this weekslong trial in the past and really begin turning back to a general election and pain message that includes talking about immigration, something he spoke about at length on sunday as well as the economy and crime and he did make one new announcement on sunday. he said that in a second administration of his would eliminate taxes on tips and that s something particularly important to voters here in nevada, especially given in the state s reliance on tourism and transportation. now, just looking ahead, to monday, donald trump is set to have a pre sentencing hearing with a probation officer. now this is pretty routine. following a conviction like his however, what s not normal is that it is going to be virtual will towed. he ll be at his mar-a-lago home with his defense attorney, todd blanche that alayna treene, cnn, las vegas, up next a shakeup inside israel s emergency government after key official says he s quitting the war cabinet, the announcement of blow to israel s prime minister even as he celebrated a rare rescue of hostages, why that operation in gaza is now drawing scrutiny. a reaction from across the globe ahead, how the us national security adviser responded to questions about the death toll in israel s latest operation i m out here telling people how they can say you ve money with experience, you got subscriptions. yeah, netflix, hulu, retrial, forgot to cancel it. they re hoping that actually mean what am i told you that experience has description cancellation we re you can just 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for the ongoing and painful cost of war. that is why we are leaving the emergency government today with a heavy heart, but with full confidence i call on netanyahu, set an agreed election date. don t allow our people to get torn apart the announcement came a day after israeli forces rescued four hostages in an operation in gaza where officials say scores of palestinians were killed, were tracking all these developments from here in london not as here also, elliott, not if i can just start with that operation we ve had more detail about the wider effects of it effectively. yeah, absolutely. and this has been described as perhaps one of the deadliest days that we have seen in gaza in months. gazan authorities saying at least 274 people were killed over the course of this operation, nearly 700 others injured. and we have seen the graphic and again, distressing images emerging from they know said refugee camp, this was an area of course where we knew thousands of civilians had been sheltering. it has of course, come under heavy bombardment as we have seen in recent days and weeks. and of course, we ve been hearing from civilians on the ground have described the chaos and carnage which took place afterwards, the heavy bombardment, the lack of anywhere really to escape to for safety, we ve also seen images emerging from the nearby al-aqsa martyrs hospital, as we know, this is a hospital which was already severely overrun given recent airstrikes that we have seen in the area. but again, bodies piled up in these overrun malls. we ve seen casualties being treated on the ground according to some eyewitnesses on the ground, ambulances weren t actually able to get into the area to provide support for those injured because it had been deemed a military zone in that environment had a contingent, of course. this is really stoked concern over really what the actual purpose of this operation is. in terms of the protection of civilians. we ve seen those warnings from world leaders at calling for the israeli military to do more to protect civilians over the course of their military operations, be that targeting hamas are trying to rescue of hostages held captive by hamas in gaza. but again, this is one of the deadliest attacks that we ve seen in recent days and weeks earlier to play into gantz s resignation. it did. he was due to announce his resignation on june the 8th. that was the deadline that was saturday. as a result of the rescue of four israeli hostages, which you ve just been talking about, of course, on the other effects of it, gantz postponed it by a de sunday evening goes before the cameras and announces his resignation interesting, because at the beginning of the war, ganz joined the government. he formed this national unity government because israel, he said, you know, we needed to be united now in this war against hamas. and they form this war cabinet, again, specifically insisted that he be a part of the war cabinet is basically him, defense minister yoav gallant and prime minister netanyahu. there are a couple of observers as well and specifically ensured that the far-right ministers in prime minister netanyahu s governing coalition. we re not in the war cabinet, so all of what we ve seen in the war, the decisions have been made by israel in the actions have been a result of the israeli war cabinet. now gantz has gone from that. we ve already got national security minister itamar ben gvir hey, who never even served in the israeli military, by the way, because his views were considered to be two extremist. he s now clamoring for inclusion in the war cabinet. and i suppose what we ve had until now is that ganz provided an element of cover for netanyahu to say to his right-wing coalition members, look, this is the way that we re doing things because this is our war cabinet. now that cover but has gone. i think that you could see the war cabinet taking decisions which may be gantz would not have approved netanyahu is beholden to the right-wing more than he was quite because he d still has the numbers in the knesset, the parliament, his government is not under threat. his position as prime minister is not right now. the threat, unless his coalition parties leave the government, he s got 64 out of 120 seats and the coalition right now, next election, elections are planned for october 2026, but now, absolutely, he s more beholden than ever to those right-wing members of his government. and i think in addition to the war, the other thing that way of course, paying attention to is the ongoing hostage talks. now we had president biden come out couple of weeks ago with that ceasefire plan, which the americans say israel has already accepted. and the ball is now in hamas has caught israel likely to go forward with a deal that those right-wing minister s have already said would cause them to leave the government, leaving prime minister netanyahu the unpalatable prospect of elections, which opinion polls say that he would lose well, it s one would imagine that given what gantz has been saying that netanyahu is now acting more out of his own personal political self-interest. that that is something that would come into play even more with his peaceful, a peace deal or israeli proposal becomes more right-wing it makes it less likely to be achieved absolutely. and i m sorry, these ongoing attacks that we re seeing targeting areas or we know civilians are sheltering. i m making it more difficult. of course, when it comes to hamas is perspective on those ongoing ceasefire negotiations that s been the warning for some time now from regional leaders who ve been playing a key part in mediating talks between hamas and of course, israeli officials and the united states. we ve heard from egyptian officials just yesterday saying that because latest round of strikes on the nuseirat refugee camp will have a negative impacts on those ongoing discussions. we heard that previously, of course, with regards to the situation in an offer that any sorts of ground operation in rafah would scupper ceasefire negotiations. and what we ve seen, this supposed peace plan put on the table by president biden supposedly with the approval of the israeli government, calling for a peaceful exchange of hostages for palestinian prisoners. clearly, what we ve seen now is released. thankfully of israeli hostages. but at the cost of more than two hundred lives. of course it in gaza. and so that has really put concern four regional leaders, particularly in the middle east, who have been pushing for this piece band, the united states of course. but in more pressure on the israeli government and on hamas to both accept this peace proposal. but if we continue to see these rounds of strikes that we are seeing in gaza, where we aren t seeing these significant civilian casualties as a result, that is likely to suffer any sort of ongoing peace negotiations. and of course, we ve got blinken now traveling to the middle east, meeting with officials in both egypt and of course in israel and of course there is that mounting pressure from the us government, from the biden administration for both sides to come to a lasting agreement but clearly we are not seeing those movements on the ground with regards to any sort of attempt to actually push towards that peace plan. okay. matter, elliott. thank you both very much. us national security adviser says the an enduring ceasefire deal between israel and hamas is the only credible path forward and is calling on hamas to accept the latest proposal. those comments from jake sullivan coming just a day after the israeli military operation that rescued those four hostages from gaza, where officials say scores killed as nauta was saying, sullivan was asked about that during an interview with cnn we didn t have any us forces on the ground. second, we ve been working for months to support israel in its efforts to rescue and recover hostages from gaza. civilians were killed, and that is tragic. it is heartbreaking. i ve said before that the palestinian people are going through hell in this war. their caught in the crossfire hamas hides among civilian infrastructure hides underground, and puts the palestinian people in harm s way. and this whole thing, this whole tragedy could be hoover all the hostages could be home, there could be a ceasefire if hamas would just step up and say yes to the deal that the israelis have accepted in that president biden elaborate did a week ago. so the world should call on hamas to take this deal. the united states will support israel and taking steps to try to rescue hostages who are currently being held in in harm, held by hamas. and we will continue to work with israel to do that, we will also we ll continue to reinforce the point that all of their military operations, including hostage rescue operation, should take every precaution to minimize the amount of civilian harm arm or civilian casualties that is a point 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heading straight to closing arguments in this historic case. marshall cohen, cnn, washington the governor of, texas says president biden is gaslighting americans with his new action on the southern us border. mr. biden s executive order bars migrants crossing the border illegally from seeking asylum. if that number exceeds a daily average of 2,500. but greg abbott says that policy and now it s less than a week ago, isn t aggressive enough all this new button policy is going to do is to actually attract an invite even more people to cross the border illegally. and you ve seen on videos now, ever since that biden order went into place, there s no slowing down of people crossing the border in fact, is just accelerating. and so this, this is gaslighting less, pardon, as soon expected to follow up on this order with another move, this time focusing on providing legal status to long term undocumented immigrants married to a us citizens us officials say members of venezuela s most notorious 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him with impunity. boza says, a fellow police officer who refused to cooperate with the gang was shot 50 times. its enable you refused and was murdered. he tied his body to a motorcycle and dragged it throughout the san vicente neighborhood to demonstrate the power of the tren de aragua. they have followed the migration russian paths across south america to other countries and have set up criminal groups throughout south america as they follow those paths. and that they appear to have followed the migration north united states. you as border patrol chief jason owens, who has confirmed multiple arrests of our members over the last year, issued a warning in early april after reporting yet another arrest, watch out for this gang, he said, it is the most powerful in venezuela known for murder, drug traffic king six crimes extortion, and other violent acts. the challenge for law enforcement officials is that it s very difficult to know how many members of friendly aragua are already here in the united states. what somebody venezuelan immigrants are telling us here in florida and other states is that they are already beginning to see in there the communities, the same type of criminal activity they fled from in venezuela. will they do have their hands and prostitution contract killing, selling of drugs selling of arms you name it. they just all types of criminal activity that they can engage in. anything that s an illicit activity. they re going to engage in for a profit trend, de, aragua, a violent venezuelan street gang it is operating in the united states. a judge in miami-dade county sit in a hearing that one of two suspects in the murder of a former venezuelan police officer in south florida, allegedly is a member of the gang and more recently, a new york police source told cnn the 19-year-old who allegedly opened fire of two officers there s after they tried to stop them for riding a scooter in the wrong direction. has tattoos associated with the gang illegal yet no 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childish chicken games might valeriia joins us now from sold, we ve had another update as well about a response from north career, i believe max it s right and we were able to confirm through south korea s joint chiefs of staff that they have seen indications that north korea appears to be preparing loudspeakers of their own along the border of the dmz to blair propaganda messages from the northern side to here and the southern side i d, of the dmz. so again, max, if you re just following this whole drama, this is all resulting from dueling balloons from south korea for years, sending slices of life, slices of freedom via balloons to north korea and north korea in recent days responding by calling those deliveries filth and sending trash balloons here to the soul metropolitan area. and in different parts of south korea. so yesterday, we saw south korea respond with loudspeaker propaganda broadcasts for the first time in about six years. and max, it s worth pointing out when we say propaganda broadcasts coming from south korea, we re not talking about old cold war stuff we re talking about a song from bts that played on these huge military loudspeakers emanating from the roofs of these trucks that you re seeing on the screen right there. other k-pop songs. so we re talking about soft power blaring from south korea to north korea also, south korean news reports detailing human rights abuses perpetrated by kim jong un and his regime in north korea. north korea for its part kim yo jong, the sister of the northern leader, saying that this could be a prelude to a very dangerous situation, warning of more consequences. but max earlier last week we were able to speak to the founder of a south korean group. he defected from north korea in 2000 and he justified sending these balloon deliveries north. and what was sent in those deliveries. here s what he told us now, me will one we send money, medicine, facts, truth, and love. but to send filth and trash in return that s an inhumane and barbaric act. so max, a lot of mixed feelings about this. the main opposition leader here in south korea, ej him young, a saying that this is essentially a game of chicken from his point of view. and it could lead to a localized conflict or very absolute worst-case scenario and all-out war that seems to be mu during the points of views of many constituents we, we ve been talking with over the past few days, specifically farmers who live near the dmz, who have said, you know what, we re just trying to live our lives here and we want this all to stop. but in some max, we here at cnn have counted 1110 trash balloons from north korea to south korea everybody living here in seoul just wants it to stop. they ve said that this is getting old really fast, but it s all about the tempo of how this for tat increases, or hopefully slows down over the next few days, max okay. my malaria live in seoul. thank you so much now a bit arrivals india and geopolitics on that in a 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narendra modi sworn in as the prime ministerfor a record third term. the party is just getting started as celebrations kick off around the world for pride month. welcome to the programme. it is sam welcome to the programme. it is 8am in singapore and at 2am in brussels, where we start. next exit polls suggest there have been big gains forfar right parties, in elections to the european parliament. this was the first projection for the 720 seat assembly the darker colours to the right representing those right of centre parties seem to have moved to take up more of the seats. the most headline grabbing outcome appears to have been in france, where the far right national rally party has taken more than 31% of the vote. that s more than double the coalition which supports president macron. he has responded by calling an entirely unexpected snap election. translation: the rise - of nationalists and demagogues is a dangerfor our nation, but also for europe. the but also for europe. position in europe and the world. i say this even though we have just celebrated with the whole world of the normandy landing, and in a few weeks we welcome the world for the olympic and paralympic games. yes, the far right is both the result of the impoverishment of the french and the downgrading of our country. so at the end of this day, i cannot act as if nothing had happened. added to this situation is a fever which has gripped parliamentary and public debate in our country in recent years, a disorder which i know worries you, sometimes shocks you, and to which i do not intend to give in. however, today the challenges that present themselves to us, whether external dangers, climate change and the consequences, or threats to our own cohesion, it requires clarity in our debates. ambition for the country and respect for every french person. this is why, after having carried out the consultations provided for in article 12 of our constitution, i decided to put back in your hands the choice of our parliamentary future by the vote. in a few moments, i will sign the decree convening the legislative elections which will be held onjune 30th for the first round and july seventh for the second round. for the french far right, the result is one to celebrate. here s marine le pen. translation: the french have spoken and this - historic election shows that when the people vote, the people win. by giving more than 32% to the national rally, the french have just given us their highest score, all parties combined, in a0 years. it s a real emotion to see this beautiful popular force rising up throughout the country. the big question now where does this leave the european parliament? here s the president of the european comission, ursula von der leyen, who has promised to build a bastion against extremes in the eu s assembly. no majority can be formed without epp, and together, and that is important. together with others, we will build a bastion against the extremes from the left and the right. we will stop them. this is for sure. my colleague christian fraser has been in brussels, watching the results and exit polls unfold throughout the evening. he spoke to our europe editor katya adler, and started he asked what the biggest news was from the evening. the polls are closed and the finance rejection would be worked out within the 27 countries on stage. behind me, the european parliamentary president, who is about to give us the latest projections. we already know from the exit polls in these 27 countries that there has been a definitive shift to the right. in austria, the freedom party, top of the pile. geert wilders in the netherlands taking seven seats. marine le pen, a record 32% in france. the afd in germany coming second. that is one story tonight, but already this election has provided us with extraordinary news in france, where emmanuel macron, who sank to 15% of the vote, calling a snap election in the last week ofjune and the first week ofjuly. it is an enormous gamble on the back of a pretty humiliating defeat tonight in the european parliamentary elections. you can see behind me, we are about to get the latest projection, and here it is. you can see the epp, the biggest in the european parliament, is up from 176 seats to 189. big losers on the greens, 72 all the way down to 52. on the right hand side that chart, the european conservatives and reformists, up from 69, and identity and democracy, up from 49 to 58. those are the two groupings that include the populists and the hard right. there seems to be some confusion from the figures they have put up, and she did say they would continue to check the results and they will be refined through the evening, because the main polls in italy have closed just a short time ago. with 76 seats in the parliament, that will very much affect the projections they are putting out. what does this all mean at the end of the day? the big story, i suppose, aside from those rather dramatic headlines about the hard right, is that the centre and the centre right have largely held. they will control the majority of the seats. on the right, there tend to be some disparate groupings, they don t see eye to eye on issues like ukraine, for instance, giorgia meloni very much in favour of sending arms to ukraine, whereas marine le pen has been much softer on russia. it may be issue by issue where the groups on the right to try to work together, but certainly it is the centre and the centre right which will control the agenda. the question is how much will they need those parties to get some of the things through over the next five years? things like green policy, transition policy, migration and borders, the european budget still to be decided. billions of euros being put into the industrial defence strategy in europe as well. those are all big questions. of course integration and enlargement, always a thorny issue in brussels. so the impact of the shift to the right still to be worked out, i would think, in the coming months, as the parties arrange themselves in the various groupings. no question the story tonight, though, the shift to the right, and a very big backward step for the green playback the centrists. let s turn our attention to india now when arranger moody has taken the oath of office and has been sworn in for a third term as the indian prime minister. this time he will be a coalition government after his party, bjp, failed to win an office is in the general election to govern alone. thousands of guests attended the inauguration at the presidential palace, including the heads of several neighbouring nations. he was a little bit of what he had to say. translation: i little bit of what he had to say. translation:- say. translation: i will faithfully say. translation: i will faithfully and say. translation: | will. faithfully and conscientiously discharge my duties as the prime minister of the union, and that i will do right to all manner in accordance with the constitution. and the law. without fear or favour, affection or ill will. despite his victory. affection or ill will. despite his victory, why affection or ill will. despite his victory, why are - affection or ill will. despite his victory, why are these i his victory, why are these elections significant and different? here is my colleague with war. an oath that narendra modi is more than familiar with. but what follows is uncharted territory. a weakened prime minister, dependent on a coalition for the first time. there are hundreds of pictures of mr modi all over delhi today, and it s something we ve gotten used to here in india over these past ten years. his picture s been on welfare schemes, on vaccine certificates, so that doesn t seem to have changed. but what has is that while this is a win, it s a victory that feels like a defeat for brand modi. the aura of invincibility that has come to surround him has been damaged. and clues to why some voters turned away can be found here in the politically crucial state of uttar pradesh. it was considered to be a stronghold of mr modi s bjp, but it delivered the biggest shock. in a predominantly hindu village in muzaffarnagar, we met men who ve traditionally supported the bjp. but not this time, says shyam singh, who has four post graduate sons who are unemployed. translation: since four years, they have been searching - forjobs, but there are no vacancies. the government talks about development, but we can t see it happen on the ground. price rise has gone beyond limits, it s tough to put food on the table. translation: people had blind faith in modi, - but now they ve opened their eyes to the reality around them. a hindu temple opened by the prime minister ahead of the election, was expected to galvanize votes like these for the ruling party. translation: temples are a matter of faith, i but to feed ourselves, we need work. just opening temples doesn t help us. in another part of the constituency we met people from india s muslim minority who had found themselves to be the target of an overtly divisive campaign by the bjp. translation: when the results came in, we were happy - because we were worried that if they came to power with a full majority, they would make laws that would discriminate against minorities. bell ringing. a leader who s achieved an almost godlike status for his followers has been brought down to earth by the will of india s voters. for mr modi, keeping his allies together will be the test of a new skill. yogita limaye, bbc news, delhi. let s get you news from israeli aware benny gantz, one of the most senior members of the israeli war cabinet which was set up after the hamas attack in october has resigned from the group. he threatened to stand down unless he felt there was a postwar plan for gaza with a deadline set for saturday. he told reporters he was not satisfied and this is the moment he confirmed he was standing down. translation: unfortunately, netanyahu is preventing us i from approaching true victory, which is the justification for the painful, ongoing crisis. and this is why we quit the national unity government today with a heavy heart. yet we feel that it is the right decision. we are now in the midst of a campaign that will impact the fate of israel generations ahead. in order to guarantee true victory, this coming fall, when it will be the one year anniversary of this disaster, we should go for elections and reach a new government. i call on netanyahu to set a date for elections. mr netanyahu had called on benny gantz to remain in the war cabinet. he posted this message on the social media platform x. our correspondent donnison is injerusalem and put the announcement into context. well, i don t think it was a shock because he has been threatening to resign for some time. and he, in fact, was due to give a press conference yesterday and postponed that when we got news of the raid in the centre of gaza taking place. it s not going to bring down the government of benjamin netanyahu, who still maintains his majority in the knesset. but what it does do is i guess it isolates mr netanyahu a little bit at a time when he is calling for unity, and it removes a voice of experience and a more centrist voice from that war cabinet. you have to remember that the coalition cabinet is made up of, really, people with very little experience. that cannot be said of benny gantz, who is a former army chief of staff, a former defence minister, and someone with a long history in the military at a time when israel is now at war. and what it means, i think, is that those further to the right, the likes of itamar ben gvir, who is from the far right of israeli politics, are going to have more influence. and i m just seeing that mr ben gvir has requested himself that he now should be allowed to join the war cabinet. officials from the hamas run health ministry in gaza say that the israeli raid on a refugee camp on saturday which led to the rescue of four hostages led to the deaths of nearly 300 palestinians. a spokesman for the armed wing of hamas says that three hostages were also killed during the operation. we haven t been able independently to verify that claim. several hundred palestinians were also wounded in the raid. hamas accused the israelis of carrying out a massacre. that phrase was echoed by the european union s top diplomatjosep borrell, who described the deaths as another massacre of civilians . more footage has emerged of the rescue israel used helicopters to evacuate the hostages from an area around the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. the head of the hospital where they are being treated said none of them require emergency care or large procedures, but that they will need long term evaluations. being deprived of so many things for so long and living under this unbelievable stress is something that leaves its mark, both on the body and on the soul. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. you are live with bbc news. turning to the south china sea were a stand off between the philippines and china has seen tensions ratcheting up in the area. manila accused the chinese coins out of barbaric and inhumane behaviourfor and inhumane behaviour for stopping and inhumane behaviourfor stopping its navy evacuating six servicemen last month. the chinese foreign ministry accuses the philippines of lying and they see the philippines will be allowed to access these only forgives advance notice. chinese ships have repeatedly been accused of harassment of philippines ships, including firing water cannons and ramming boats. the foreign ministry honestly blame the us for tensions in the region. to understand the conflict as it stands at the moment, i am joined conflict as it stands at the moment, iamjoined by conflict as it stands at the moment, i am joined by a strategic and defence studies professor at the australian national university. thank you for your time here today. how seriously are you viewing these incidents? do they have the potential to spark a wider conflict? potential to spark a wider conflict? , ., ., , conflict? there is no doubt this is the conflict? there is no doubt this is the potential - conflict? there is no doubt this is the potential to - conflict? there is no doubt. this is the potential to spark a wider conflict but it depends on the resolve of the participants in this house. the philippines is not well armed and not in a position to assert itself strongly, china has more ships operating in this area, maritime militia, coastguard and navy vessels then the combined fleets of the philippines and the us navy operating in the east asian waters, particularly the south china sea. the question that china sea. the question that china has the numbers here but this has to be put in the context of your context as well. we have what my colleague describes as the full flashpoint of east asia, the korean peninsula, the east china sea, the south china sea and taiwan. my sense is that what we see in the second is the demonstration, if you like, when china is trying to say. including in taiwan and that it is prepared to press to a point by looking to not cross a kinetic threshold, if you like, not firing any bullets or guns or missiles, looking to provoke and perhaps push to the limit and perhaps push to the limit and perhaps push to the limit and perhaps trigger a reaction from the philippines or the us or someone in taiwan or elsewhere in a similar circumstances to then be there one so they can say see, we are not the starters of this conflict, you guys are. my senseis conflict, you guys are. my sense is that what we see here is not so much in the west we tend to view things in terms of war and peace and we tend to view things through a lens of traditional 19th and 20th century strategists, classing the classic one, and my sense is what we see here is not so much what could be putting the metaphor in a game of chess by perhaps more appropriately described as the game of go. in the game of go you do not remove players from the board, you flip them, you cajole and persuade them, you black male and you do not give them an option other than to be flipped. my sense is this happens with the philippines. i want to pursue one another point. basing blame the us on sunday for the increase tensions are missing a move to deploy medium range missiles in the area, dragging the region into the world is full of an arms race. allies like the us and evenjapan have fledged ironclad support but what is the level of commitment if things escalate? it the level of commitment if things escalate? the level of commitment if things escalate? it is touch and no things escalate? it is touch and go because things escalate? it is touch and go because we - things escalate? it is touch and go because we know . things escalate? it is touch i and go because we know the tribunal ruling in 2016 ruled in the favour of the philippines about its exclusive economic scene but the second is more clouded, much more grey, it says this is not something that has categorically legal recognised jurisdiction falling under the philippines, it is in there, but not the territory itself. the ship that has been lodged on this shoal having troops and people living there on a semipermanent basis is designed to provide evidence of the war that he philippines can legitimately claim that probably that is not recognised. china knows that it is the grey zone and echoes what happened 12 years ago over scarborough shoal where there was a contest between the philippines and china over who could control it, and the us did not want to back the philippines over that because it was not a clear issue in terms of the jurisdiction. similarly with the second shoal today. china knows it is putting the us into a difficult position because legally the actions of the filipinos are not ones that everybody is all that sure about, backing them over, except in terms of the fact it is inside the explicit economic zone and, of course, china did not accept the tribunal ruling of 2016 asset that dashed line does not count. ironically china did sign up to the un convention of the law of the scene. it is trying to have it both ways. i am afraid that is all the time we have but thank you very much for your views on that. main political parties in the uk will also manifest this week and they are being quizzed on how they will fund some of their key pledges was that the conservatives say they can save billions on the benefits bill but labour wants to provide more prison fleeces without having to raise household taxes. here is ian watson. cheering. the main parties are preparing to launch their manifestos this week. the whole country has been longing for and waiting for this election to come. labour s promising to provide more prison places and clamp down on anti social behaviour. now the big parties know you can t pay for policies from small change, but the labour leader wasn t keen to identify spending cuts or tax rises. instead, he insisted it was all about the economy. all of our plans are fully funded and fully costed and none of them require tax rises over and above the ones that we ve already announced. what we do need to do, just to take up the challenge that s being put to us, is we do need to grow the economy. cheering. the prime minister s keen to move on from his d day misstep. today his party wasn t talking about warfare, but welfare. they ve been looking for cash for tax cuts and claim they could save £12 billion from the benefits budget by the end of the next parliament. in my area of welfare, we ve saved £7.7 billion over measures that we ve brought in over this parliament. we cut fraud and error within the welfare system, within benefits by about 10% last year and we can go still further. the lib dems have been banging the drum for investment in the nhs to the tune of billions of pounds. they say they won t raise income tax to pay for this, but other taxes are available. we said we d increase the digital services taxes on the social media giants, the likes of amazon and google as well. so i think unlike the other parties, we ve actually already begun to show very clearly where the money for our health and care policies would come from. the snp accuse the main westminster parties of being deliberately in denial about the public finances. it s important at this election that people focus on the conspiracy of silence that is going on between the labour party and the conservative party. the tories have signed up to £18 billion worth of spending cuts, according to the institute for fiscal studies. and labour, according again to the institute of fiscal studies have not demurred from those figures. the parties manifestos will provide a political sense of direction, but they may be less clear aboutjust how rocky a road lies ahead. iain watson, bbc news. that is all for now, thank you for watching. hello there. weather for the week ahead is perhaps not the story you want. no significant summer sunshine or warmth, i m afraid. in fact, the story in armagh on sunday really sets the scene just a high of ten degrees. we had cloudy skies with light rain or drizzle with a cool northerly wind as well. now, that rain is sinking its way steadily southwards and it will clear away from eastern england and south east england during monday morning. behind it, this northerly wind and this cooler air source starts to kick in across the country. so a rash of showers, a cold, brisk wind driving those showers in off exposed coasts and drifting their way steadily south across scotland and northern ireland as we go through the morning. here s our cloud and rain still lingering across east yorkshire, lincolnshire first thing in the morning, some heavier bursts that will ease away. best of any brighter skies, perhaps across southern england down to the south west. here, showers should be few and further between. but nevertheless, that wind direction still really digging in right across the country. so sunny spells, scattered showers, a brisk northwesterly wind for many, so temperatures just below par really for this time of year, a maximum of 10 15 degrees for most. we might see highs of 17 or 18 if we get some sunshine across south west england and wales. now, as we move out of monday into tuesday, the low pressure drifts off to scandinavia, high pressure builds. it should start to kill off some of the showers out to the west. but with those clearing skies, well, those temperatures will be below path through the night as well, low single figures for some, quite a chilly start to our tuesday morning. hopefully some sunshine around on tuesday. there will continue to be some showers, most frequent ones running down through central and eastern scotland and england. further west, some brighter skies and once again, highs of 17 degrees, but for many, just a maximum of 10 15 once again. moving out of tuesday into wednesday, winds will fall lighter still for a time, but there s another low pushing in and that will bring some wetter weather to close out the end of the working week. it will gradually start to change the wind direction. so, after a drier day on wednesday, it will turn that little bit milder, but also wetter as we head into the weekend. india s prime minister begins a third term. we ll look at the challenges he could face when pushing through economic reforms. plus. how the death of an actor in the nigerian film industry comparable to hollywood is raising safety concerns. hello and welcome to business today. i m arunoday mukharji. we will start the programme in india. narendra modi has been been sworn in as india s prime minister for a third consecutive term. however, it marks the first time his bharatiya janata party has needed allies to form a government. so will that impact mr modi s ability to push through economic reforms? priyanka kishore, the director and principal economist at research company asia decoded, gave us her take. modi is actually working with an alliance which has a lot of experience of pushing through successful reforms under the government. and they will draw upon that experience. of course, i think there will be a slowdown in decision making in certain areas and the big calls that people are expecting, that won t come through. but we will not completely see a stalling. labour reforms, i think, will be prioritised. we can debate the outcomes, but the reality many people talk about is that in the last ten years, india has seen bold economic decisions as well made by the bjp government, and many feel that has worked in a way for international investors. are you likely to see that continue?

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will set parties will set out their manifestoes. thousands of motorcyclists arrived at the end of a mammoth right from london to cumbria. and in sport, joyful we go in a day of commemoration at wembley where rob burrow was paid tribute to, ahead of their challenge cup final. a sunny start for many of you, a more cloud, increasing, thickening and patchy rain as well. details on breakfast. good morning. the main story, israel has been criticised by the european union s matheny diplomat over the key kneeling of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza yesterday. josep borrell called the report another massacre of civilians. a woman and three men were rescued in a mission involving airstrikes around a refugee camp. hamas claims more than 210 palestinians were killed, is report the number below 100. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her father after a dramatic rescue. translation: father after a dramatic rescue. translation: ., , ., ., ., translation: please do not forget there are another translation: please do not forget there are another 120 translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages - translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages in i there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make an effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. either way, them to israel and theirfamilies. eitherway, it them to israel and theirfamilies. either way, it is my birthday. look at my gift! also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors were unable to treat many of the winter, many arrived dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. rescue was considered a success by israeli authorities and change the calculation of a leader under pressure. campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the lith ofjuly general election with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. 0ur political correspondent ian watson has the latest. the prime minister is in a market for votes, the main westminster parties will launch manifestoes in the week ahead, rishi sunak will be hoping ms the focus for emily on chip policy, not hoping ms the focus for emily on chip p°licy, not personality. hoping ms the focus for emily on chip policy, not personality. it will be keen to move on from the dd apology and so will his party, and his candidates have been out campaigning this weekend and we have been speaking this weekend. some of spoken about anger and disappointment and one of them is firstlings that whatever will happen next? all the trousers fall down? 0thers next? all the trousers fall down? others say they have not raised the issue at all in one candidate said they were so vexed by it, they have already defected to labour or the reform party. the prime minister will be hoping to keep hisjob and he wants to get more people into work, promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservative claim they can save £12 billion of the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour says existing jails are bursting at the seams and the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places promised. if elected, the party says it would deliver that prison building programme and change the planning laws to make it a priority. those that give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign, saying they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care systems and providing more than a thousand more beds. response time information will also be made readily available. today we get a sneak preview of the manifestoes but it is not until the full range of policies are published that we will know how well they connect with voters. the wife of the missing tv presenter michael mosely says his family refuses to lose hope, and the last few days have been unbearable. efforts are continuing to find the 67 year old, on the greek island of symi, where he s been missing since setting off for a walk on wednesday. new cctv footage has been released of his last known movements. joe inwood, has the very latest, from symi. india s prime minister, narendra modi will be sworn into office later on sunday. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he leads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old gold is one of those injured after a ride malfunctioned at lambeth. what more do we know about the situation? at lambeth. what more do we know about the situation? lambeth council have described about the situation? lambeth council have described what about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened - about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened as - about the situation? lambeth council have described what happened as a l have described what happened as a serious incident. let me step away from the camera and i can show you the funfair, butjust behind that, you will be able to see the funfair where the incident happened. we do not know what ride it was on but the police were called yesterdayjust before 630 in the evening. the council have confirmed there was a malfunction with one of the fairground rides, four people were injured and an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their 405, and a man and woman in their 405, and a man in his 505. there was a big emergency response, as you would expect, air ambulance, ambulance crews with paramedics, they were crew5 with paramedics, they were treated at the scene and then taken major trauma units. we understand their conditions are not thought to be life threatening but we do not know what injurie5 they have sustained the council has said there will be a thorough investigation following what they describe as a serious incident. thank you. an american veteran who flew back to france for the d day celebrations got married near the beaches where the allies landed eighty years ago. harold teren5, who is one hundred years old, married his ninety six year old fiancee, jeanne swerlin. harold visited france as an air force corporal, shortly after d day. they then attended the state banquet in paris, thrown by emmanuel macron forjoe biden. i’m in paris, thrown by emmanuel macron forjoe ewen- forjoe biden. i m 100 years old and m forjoe biden. i m100 years old and m bride forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and to forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and to be forjoe biden. i m100 years old and my bride is 96 and to be married, i my bride is 96 and to be married, it s my second, normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do rest of my life and be as happy as could be. ,, ,, ., ., could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, i could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, ifeel could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, | feel like, could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, i feel like, my - could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, i feel like, my god, - could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, | feel like, my god, i. yes! at 96, ifeel like, my god, i -ot yes! at 96, ifeel like, my god, i got butterflies, just like the young people! got butterflies, just like the young people! it is notjust the young people. people! it is notjust the young people, love, you know! we get butterflies we also get a little bit of action! butterflies we also get a little bit of action! ., , ., butterflies we also get a little bit of action! . , ., , . butterflies we also get a little bit i of action! and of action! that is a bit cheeky! and wh not? of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely walking - of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely walking on - of action! that is a bit cheeky! and why not? definitely walking on air. congratulations to them both! she was saying they feel young and they seem young and sprightly. i thought the not seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the ages seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the ages wrong! seem young and sprightly. i thought they got the ages wrong! and - seem young and sprightly. i thought. they got the ages wrong! and someone else looking fabulous for his age, matt, good morning. else looking fabulous for his age, matt, good morning. bless you! life beains matt, good morning. bless you! life be . ins at matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102. matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? hope - matt, good morning. bless you! life begins at 102, who knew? hope you| begins at 102, who knew? hope you are having a great weekend and it s lovely today weatherwise and this is just a short while ago in eastern scotland, blue skies across central and southern england but it is chilly, parts dropping as low as one degree. a cold start but for many, the sunshine is good, and some cards spilling in around some areas and patchy rain to go with it as well. the car has been streaming out across the north atlantic and here it comes, it will be sitting across northern ireland for much of the island, parts of northern england and north wales and spreading southwards and eastwards. lots of clear skies to begin with across the south and parts of scotland, continuing with sunny spells but a few showers over the mountaintops will be wintry. damp at times in north west england and wales with the odd shower elsewhere. sunny throughout the day, channel islands, parts of devon and cornwall as well is dorset in particular, temperatures up to 19 but there will be high pollen levels across much of england and wales. lower further north. we finished the day with a persistent rain in northern ireland, that was spread its way across england and wales are some of the garden, you may not have to water the pots tonight. clear skies later tonight, maybe some parts of scotland down to three degrees into monday morning but holding up, and not as cold in the south because of this weather system. it will clear away to start monday and sitting across is impulsive england, producing heavy rain at times and parts of yorkshire and lincolnshire, east anglia and the southeast, and that would take a while to shift away from parts of yorkshire and east anglia and may be lingering for some in the afternoon. west of that, a day of sunshine and showers. particularly in areas of scotland and for monday, northerly winds, making it phil cooler than today. temperatures around 12 15 and actually start to the week. the northerly winds bringing colder and down, crossing into tuesday, temperatures well down for where you want this stage injune. the cloud will build up eventually and a few showers brewing particularly across central and eastern areas and the core behaviour showers on parts of tuesday afternoon. further west, brighter and drier throughout but temperatures 10 16 degrees, 5 8 down for some of you on what we normally have at this stage of the year. call for the rest of the week, some showers around but there will be dry weather as well, so a bit of a washout of a week, even if it is not an especially warm one. the ressure not an especially warm one. the pressure on not an especially warm one. the pressure on public services is a key election issue and in an effort to understand the challenges, we will be reporting on three key areas over the coming days, education, courts and social care. this morning we are focusing on schools and their struggle to address a range of social issues beyond teaching. we have been to one primary school in telford where teachers are helping with potty training and basic communication. asimple a simple maths lesson a familiar part of the school day for most pupils. increasingly in classrooms are children who struggle to simply be at school. are children who struggle to simply be at school- be at school. early years have a number of be at school. early years have a number of children be at school. early years have a number of children who - be at school. early years have a| number of children who struggle be at school. early years have a - number of children who struggle with basic communication, stringing a sentence together, please can i go the toilet, can i have a drink, sentences we had to teach the children. ., ., ., ~ , sentences we had to teach the children. ., ., ., , , ., children. london and academy is a small primary children. london and academy is a small primary school children. london and academy is a small primary school in children. london and academy is a small primary school in a - children. london and academy is a j small primary school in a relatively deprived area of telford, almost half the pupils are on free school meals. the lack of skills means the school has to teach a basic form of sign language. we school has to teach a basic form of sign language- school has to teach a basic form of sin lanuae. ~ ., ., sign language. we have intimate care lans for a sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of our sign language. we have intimate care plans for a number of our children, i plans for a number of our children, we change the children, we also try to teach them to go to the toilet as well so we try to do some of that potty training but we still have children are nappies in our early years environment. lafit children are nappies in our early years environment. last september of the 27 children years environment. last september of the 27 children who years environment. last september of the 27 children who joined years environment. last september of the 27 children who joined the - the 27 children who joined the reception class, eight were a nappies. louise says her son was not potty trained when he started school. he potty trained when he started school. . , . potty trained when he started school. ., , ., ., , school. he was quite late, he was not ready- school. he was quite late, he was not ready- and school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we felt - school. he was quite late, he was not ready. and then we felt when | school. he was quite late, he was i not ready. and then we felt when he was ready, school helped. they helped with that. had was ready, school helped. they helped with that. was ready, school helped. they helped with that. had you tried to net him helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before - helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before he . helped with that. had you tried to i get him toilet trained before he got to school? ., , , ., to school? there was ust no interest from t to school? there was ust no interest from him to school? there was ust no interest from him at h to school? there wasjust no interest from him at all- to school? there wasjust no interest from him at all to i to school? there wasjust no| interest from him at all to try that. ,., , interest from him at all to try that. , ., ., , that. the parents have nothing but raise for that. the parents have nothing but praise for the that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but a - that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school but a chat - praise for the school but a chat reveals why schools increasingly struggle to focus solely on educating children. my oldest dau~hter educating children. my oldest daughter i educating children. my oldest daughter i order educating children. my oldest daughter i order out - educating children. my oldest daughter i order out of - educating children. my oldestj daughter i order out of school educating children. my oldest. daughter i order out of school i educate her. how old is she? 14. she was self harming, bullied due to her mental health, now she is at home she does the work and she is happy. happy- he is work and s the does she my she does the work and she is happy. my wife died when i first started, a lot of my wife died when i first started, a lot of stress and emotional health, that was lot of stress and emotional health, that was affecting the children with the what that was affecting the children with the what was going on. we have had help from the what was going on. we have had help from social services. my wife is back help from social services. my wife is back where she wanted to be. and that was is back where she wanted to be. situc that was through the is back where she wanted to be. fific that was through the school? london academy as part of a 13 school multi academy as part of a 13 school multi academy trust, the head says long standing challenges caused by tight budgets have been exacerbated by covid 19 and cost of living pressure. by covid-19 and cost of living pressure- by covid-19 and cost of living ressure. ., ., ., . pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite often pressure. coming out of the pandemic children are quite often more - children are quite often more anxious about large social situations because people were out of that for a while and at a quite informative stage in their education and own personal development. i think ultimately, when children are coming to school or hungry, that s having a bigger impact as an ongoing thing, we would have recovered quicker if it hadn t been for those issue. to quicker if it hadn t been for those issue. ., , ., , ., issue. to help families the learning community has issue. to help families the learning community has a issue. to help families the learning community has a food issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank- issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank run - issue. to help families the learning community has a food bank run by| community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. community has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself. nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the children nikki morrison. i went out to have a visit myself, the children were - visit myself, the children were having weet bix with tap water. she having weet-bix with tap water. she leads the having weet bix with tap water. she leads the team who provide a lot of time providing emotional and psychological support to hundreds of peoples, she wonders what will happen to them once they are older. a lot of support is in place for children through the school system, but when they leave school, that support starts to beat, they will have to pick up for when the children leave school and put the support and so they can be productive and functional members of society. the productive and functional members of socie . . . , productive and functional members of socie . . ., , ., ., society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to help - society. the challenges and telford are nationwide, how to help many. are nationwide, how to help many children who cannot open school. cope with life. michael buchanan, bbc news, telford. the time is coming up to 19 minutes past six, time to have a look at the papers, the observer leaves of the report is a future labour government would promise to establish 80 new rate courts in england and wales as part of wide ranging plans to tackle violence against women and girls. they say the policy is expected to be unveiled on the party manifesto next week, as we have mentioned, we expect to see the manifestoes unveiled from all parties. the sunday express unveiled from all parties. tie: sunday express reports on a quote 6 year master plan from a reform party leader nigel farage to in his words reshape politics and carry out what the paper calls a hostile takeover of the conservatives. the meal male takeover of the conservatives. the meal male leads with the search for former broadcaster michael mosley, it reports rescuers are focusing on a dangerous cave complex known as the abyss and we willjoin our correspondence live on the ireland later this morning. the mirror focuses ireland later this morning. the mirror focuses on ireland later this morning. tie: mirror focuses on the recovery of the princess of wales following her recent cancer diagnosis, it carries comments made by catherine in a letter to the irish guards when she said she hopes to return to public duties very soon. she apologised for not being there to take the salute at the drooping of the colour. let’s at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside the at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside the pages, at the drooping of the colour. let s look inside the pages, this is in the observer. it talks about how treehouses have gone from the childhood favourite to the height of clamping luxury. when i was younger i was desperate for a treehouse, i thought it was most magical thing. after reading the magic faraway tree by enid blyton i wanted to be up in the trees but i never got one from my parents. 50 the trees but i never got one from my parents- my parents. so you are now living our my parents. so you are now living your treehouse my parents. so you are now living your treehouse streams? - my parents. so you are now living your treehouse streams? now - my parents. so you are now living your treehouse streams? now i i my parents. so you are now living i your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a glamping your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a glamping treehouse, - your treehouse streams? now i need to ask for a glamping treehouse, it i to ask for a glamping treehouse, it is notjust a wooden shack put together it looks incredibly fancy now, some have a built in sauna inside which is very impressive, that takes a lot of logistic, the height of engineering.- height of engineering. sturdy branches- height of engineering. sturdy branches. you height of engineering. sturdy branches. you can t - height of engineering. sturdy branches. you can t have - height of engineering. sturdy branches. you can t have any| height of engineering. sturdy - branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. you can t have any flimsy branches- if branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you are branches. you can t have any flimsy branches. if you are trying - 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the past five decades. in response team of conservationists and have hatched a plan to rescue the reclusive species as our correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular visitors - correspondence explain. these tiny birds were once regular visitors to l birds were once regular visitors to our gardens but not anymore. manchester alone, there are nowjust 120 breeding pairs after suffering a huge decline over the past five decades. we huge decline over the past five decades. ~ ., ., ., ., ., decades. we have got a lot of witness here, decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what on - decades. we have got a lot of witness here, what on the - decades. we have got a lot of| witness here, what on the side decades. we have got a lot of - witness here, what on the side and brought on that side damp, wet woodland is what willow titx like. now volunteers are being asked to rescue them. we now volunteers are being asked to rescue them- now volunteers are being asked to rescue them. we want to survey the -o - ulation rescue them. we want to survey the population once rescue them. we want to survey the population once we rescue them. we want to survey the population once we understand - rescue them. we want to survey the population once we understand thel population once we understand the population once we understand the population we will use the information to design habitat intervention. information to design habitat intervention. a , , intervention. ashley maas has been identified as intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that could - intervention. ashley maas has been identified as an area that could be l identified as an area that could be restored to help the willow tip population. we restored to help the willow tip population- restored to help the willow tip oulation. ~ ., ., ., ., population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland for population. we need rotten, deadwood like this in a woodland for willow- like this in a woodland for willow titx to excavate, this living tree is very hard, a willow tip could not excavate that for its nest.- excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard - excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard to - excavate that for its nest. these | birds are elusive and hard to spot we did not see any today but they do have a distinctive call. thea;r we did not see any today but they do have a distinctive call. have a distinctive call. they are often in places have a distinctive call. they are often in places really have a distinctive call. they are often in places really close - have a distinctive call. they are often in places really close to i often in places really close to people 5 houses like in bolton and trafford, you have them write on the scruffy pockets of the land behind people 5 houses and they are an elusive bird so people don t know where they are. fit! elusive bird so people don t know where they are. elusive bird so people don t know where they are. on the edge of the sark where they are. on the edge of the s - ark we where they are. on the edge of the spark we have where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a woodland - where they are. on the edge of the spark we have a woodland habitat. | spark we have a woodland habitat. volunteers spark we have a woodland habitat. volunteers are working with the wildlife trust with funding they will work with landowners to increase the habitat of the willow tip, benefiting a host of other creatures into the bargain. it’s creatures into the bargain. it s tuite creatures into the bargain. it s quite often creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a habitat overlooked by people or undervalued, it s a bit scruffy looking, it is untidy, a bit wet and boggy, it s a bit unloved. there are a number of factors for the willow tip to climb. quite possibly climate change is playing a part, some of the weather habitats potentially might be drying up in the longer hotter summers. it is a bird that does not move that far and we need to create these pockets of habitats like steppingstones on the way across the landscape so they can move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims to - willow wildlife project aims to boost the willow tip s chance of survival and halts the alarming decline in this once common entry should bed. taste decline in this once common entry should bed- decline in this once common entry should bed. we want to make sure there is always should bed. we want to make sure there is always a should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home for- should bed. we want to make sure there is always a home for the - there is always a home for the willow tip in the west, it is a really iconic species and it needs our help. really iconic species and it needs our hel. , , really iconic species and it needs our hel. , ., , really iconic species and it needs ourhel. , “ , our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovel to our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts - our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts to - our help. judy hobson, bbc news. lovely to hear the efforts to help | lovely to hear the efforts to help support that endangered species. i don t know if you ve seen the don t know if you ve seen the documentary on the rob burrow, that bbc breakfast has done, it is a really emotional watch. it was a boy can and time, a tribute to him, wasn t it? can and time, a tribute to him, wasn t it? , ., . , , wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob burrow i wasn t it? yesterday at wembley since the death of rob burrow s| wasn t it? yesterday at wembley i since the death of rob burrow s on sunday night of last week, we read a lot of words, we have heard a lot of words and seen the personal connection he had with a lot of people. viewers of this program will know especially the strong bond he built up on those people who had been supporting over the years of his motor neurone disease order struggles, it was something else to see it wordlessly as it turned out for a good minute at wembley, they were overwhelming to see, unanimous support and commemoration for rob burrow at wembley yesterday. it was remarkable, the pictures in addition to everything we have had, the personal, intense relationships described over the last few days, just to have all of those people doing the same thing and as i say. a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct. a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct. a a powerful, wordless tribute. you are correct, a poem date wembley as rugby pay tribute to one of its grades, on its perch saint helens women were challenge cup challenges. a game benefiting the memory of the great rob burrow. great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenae great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, a - great rob burrow. wigan warriors challenge cup winners, a momentj great rob burrow. wigan warriors i challenge cup winners, a moment of celebration the combination of a day of raw emotion. 0n the game 5 grandest stage the sport had come together to remember an inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby league cup community gathering to pay their own very personal tributes to the late rob burrows who passed awayjust a few days ago after the battle with motor neurone disease, tributes that would continue throughout the day. he meant everything, everything to me, to the club and the mnd community, just amazing. tithe me, to the club and the mnd community, just amazing. community, ust amazing. one thing that ru:b community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does - community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does is - community, just amazing. one thing that rugby league cup does is look l that rugby league cup does is look after our that rugby league cup does is look after our own and we all come together, after our own and we all come together, no matter what club you are from together, no matter what club you are from everyone can see what he did as are from everyone can see what he did as a are from everyone can see what he did as a player and as a human being afterwards did as a player and as a human being afterwards. he did as a player and as a human being afterwards. . , did as a player and as a human being afterwards. ., , ., , ., ., , ., afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s showpiece - afterwards. he was a star, he was a star. the men s showpiece final- star. the men s showpiece final warrington star. the men s showpiece final warrington against star. the men s showpiece final warrington against wigan - star. the men s showpiece final- warrington against wigan beginning after a minutes of impeccable silence. we can already raining super league and club champions took the first half lead, bevan french twisting and turning his way. that s their second try captain liam farrell rampaging through to extend the lead and from there warrington would not find a way. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale win for leeds. beaten comprehensively by saint helens for the third year in a row. so glory for saint helen s the third year in a row. so glory for saint helen 5 women and for wigan warriors men on a day when the whole sport of rugby league came together to celebrate one of its own. adam wilde, bbc news, wembley. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title and rugby union is over they won a dramatic new ship final at twickenham, alex mitchell scoring the winning try against bath down to 14 men with 17 minutes left as they claim their second championship and gave a perfect sendoff to the parting courtney law after his 17 years with the club. it parting courtney law after his 17 years with the club. years with the club. it has not really sunk years with the club. it has not really sunk in years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, we - years with the club. it has not really sunk in yet, we were i really sunk in yet, we were so focused on this for so long, during the game, it was get the one, however you can. you get there and you are like we have done it! it is fast, can t put into words. i think we deserved it, over the season we have been the best team, sometimes you have to find a way to win. , . . ,, , ., sometimes you have to find a way to win. , . , ., ., win. english cricketers are without a win at the win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will cover- win. english cricketers are without a win at the t-20 will cover after l a win at the t 20 will cover after losing to australian bob artist, putting their chances of getting to the next stage in doubt. travis head made a flying start 70 without loss of five overs, australia reaching to hundred and one seven, 13 sixes in that innings, captainjosh butler top scored with 42 but they lost those wickets at regular intervals and fell well short of the target, losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as the losing by 36 runs. the situations we find ourselves in as the situation - find ourselves in as the situation we find ourselves in, we have to be confident keeps heads up and look forward to the next one and keep up in the chest out and playing some good cricket which we know we are capable of. good cricket which we know we are ca able of. good cricket which we know we are caable of. ~ .., good cricket which we know we are capable of capable of. south africa are top of the a-rou capable of. south africa are top of the group up capable of. south africa are top of the group up to capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a scare capable of. south africa are top of the group up to a scare against. capable of. south africa are top of| the group up to a scare against the netherlands, chasing 141, 12 four at one stage but there after they managed the run chase well and were beaten from 51 balls from david miller, south africa one x four wickets, after a disappointing start to the british open they won the men s wheelchair doubles title, another serial winner in paris was iga swiatek she is now french open singles winnerfor a iga swiatek she is now french open singles winner for a fourth time, she continued her recent dominance on the clay with a straight sets win againstjasmine paolini obviously, against jasmine paolini obviously, it againstjasmine paolini obviously, it is her third title in a row in paris and herfirst it is her third title in a row in paris and her first grand slam triumph overall. i m paris and her first grand slam triumph over all. paris and her first grand slam triumph over all. i m really proud of m self triumph over all. i m really proud of myself because triumph over all. i m really proud of myself because the triumph over all. i m really proud i of myself because the expectations obviously have been pretty high from the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy i just went for the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went for it the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy i just went for it and the outside, and pressure as well, i am happy ijust went for it and i was ready to deal with all of this, and i could win. it is the turn of the men this afternoon. it is the first time that either of the players had reached the final length paris and they are hoping tojoin an the final length paris and they are hoping to join an illustrious list of spaniards to have one in roland garros. i of spaniards to have one in roland garros. ., ., , , ., ., garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who have - garros. i want to put my name on the list of spanish players who have won l list of spanish players who have won the tournament, not only rafa nadal, ferrero, koster, and many have one from the sport and i really want to put my name on the list as well. i think in a grand slam final there are no think in a grand slam final there are no easy matches or opponents. if you are are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in the are no easy matches or opponents. if you are in the final roland garros you are in the final roland garros you deserve to be there and that goes you deserve to be there and that goes for you deserve to be there and that goes for him as well. he played a fantastic goes for him as well. he played a fantastic match and tournament in general fantastic match and tournament in general. i m expecting a very difficult general. i m expecting a very difficult match. general. i m expecting a very difficult match. general. i m expecting a very difficult match. looks like the mercedes difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula 1 difficult match. looks like the mercedes formula 1 team - difficult match. looks like the i mercedes formula 1 team could difficult match. looks like the - mercedes formula 1 team could be challenging for wins again after george russell claimed pole position for the canadian grand prix. he recorded a time of one minute and 12 seconds exactly on his first run qualifying and montreal. max verstappen posted exactly the same time but because george russell did at first, he gets to start from the top spot forjust at first, he gets to start from the top spot for just the second at first, he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. great britain have won their first medals at the world athletics championships in rome. the race was won by marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title, and italy 13 medals but it is the competitors first met all. i but it is the competitors first met all. ., ., ., , all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the positive - all. i wanted to get the gold but i needed to take the positive and i | needed to take the positive and i want very much to be in the olympics are positive things you take from here and go back and look at the video and work on my race. george miller has one video and work on my race. george miller has one silver video and work on my race. george miller has one silver finishing - miller has one silver finishing behind the first place, and he has his sights set on the paris 0lympics next month. i his sights set on the paris olympics next month- his sights set on the paris olympics next month. ., ., ., next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris but next month. i want to run the 15 and the five in paris but hopefully - the five in paris but hopefully tonight has done my chances of selection no harm but we are still a month out in three weeks until trials and back to training as of tomorrow and we will get stuck in. michael dunlop has secured victory in the super sport and super twins races of the week and it takes the total number of victories to 29, three clear of the previous record, belonging to his late unclejoey. he had it for 24 years in the fourth time he has won four races across the week. whether it is dunlop or mills, a couple of stories about how you can send your sporting progress down the gene pool! absolutely! around 20,000 bikers completed aim mammoth ride in memory of dave myers who died of cancer in february. the procession made its way to his home town of barrow after setting off from the ace cafe in north west london. sharon barber has been following the journey. it isa it is a big night in barrow, a celebration of the life of dave myers. tens of thousands have arrived, many of them hairy bikers. they are riding in all the way up the m6, thousands of people on every bridge, unbelievable. fits the m6, thousands of people on every bridge, unbelievable. bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in throu~h bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns and bridge, unbelievable. as were coming in through the towns and villages - in through the towns and villages leading in through the towns and villages leading into barrow, the streets were leading into barrow, the streets were lined and it was amazing! the roar of tens were lined and it was amazing! the roar of tens of were lined and it was amazing! tie: roar of tens of thousands of motorbikes heard across england today, began to arrive late afternoon. the procession at times was 16 miles long, and the route was lined by supporters. leading the cavalcade that left london this morning was dave s best friend and fellow hairy by car. fellow hairy by car. what a remarkable fellow hairy by car. what a remarkable reception! - fellow hairy by car. what a j remarkable reception! just fellow hairy by car. what a - remarkable reception! just mind blowing! all of the bridges all the way from london, people waving and showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! the showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! showing kindness, courtesy and it was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was was unbelievable! the tv chef died in february after he was diagnosed | in february after he was diagnosed with cancer. he was 66. sharon barber, bbc news, cumbria. what a lovely thing to have done. very touching. we will be back with the headlines at seven but now it is time for the travel show. this year, all eyes are on the french region of normandy as it prepares to celebrate the major anniversaries. it may not be as well visited as paris, or as funny as the south of the country but if you come here and explore, you will fall in love with this part of france, it was a place that gave us a king, that change the course of history. it us a king, that change the course of histo . . , us a king, that change the course of histo . ., , , , us a king, that change the course of histo . ,, history. it has inspired the painter who started history. it has inspired the painter who started a history. it has inspired the painter who started a movement - history. it has inspired the painter who started a movement that - history. it has inspired the painter| who started a movement that took history. it has inspired the painter- who started a movement that took the artwork by storm. he painted the light up there. artwork by storm. he painted the light up there- artwork by storm. he painted the light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at the light up there. while 80 years ago, the coastline was at the forefront i the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom. i the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom.- the coastline was at the forefront for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous sentinel - for the fight for freedom. i want to sound an enormous sentinel to - for the fight for freedom. i want to i sound an enormous sentinel to those of taken part, it was a team effort. this is the region that has seen it all. and it s stories have all been woven into the tapestry of time. this is so cool! i will release the road until it is slapping. so the flapping starts and then from the flapping, we bring it in. just to stop? look at me! i m a sailor! france and england may be neighbours but in the middle ages, they were bitter rivals, mainly thanks to this man, william, the duke of normandy, who history would come to know better as william the conqueror. in the year 1066, he left the shores to invade england and set it on a new course of history. william was descended from the fears that vikings, or northmen, who gave normandy its name. in 2027, normandy will mark the 1,000th anniversary of william s birth. but the preparations for this big occasion have already begun. la mora was the flagship of william s invasion fleet. and now, a historical society in the port town of honfleur are busy recreating the viking style longship that would have carried william, his most trusted knights, their horses, and 60 oarsmen to the brutal battle of hastings. and there s not a power tool in sight. this is me splitting wood in what would be the norman way of doing it. yeah, and with this technique, you can split any tree. yeah, good. and that is how you split wood norseman style. jean marie is the president of the society and has some big plans for la mora when she s finished. so, it s all about timing. you start now so the boat is finished for the anniversary. oh, wow! we hope, we hope! yeah! we hope that. wow! the team made their plans for the new look la mora by studying the 70 metre long bayeux tapestry. so all of this is the battle of hastings? yes, it s all the battle. here is the famous death of king harold, which marks the end of the battle. where s the eye? where s the arrow in his eye? harold isjust here. you can see it with the arrow in the eye. yeah! the tapestry was completed in the decade following the battle of hastings. martin is a historian at the bayeux museum, whose job it is to study and interpret this priceless a rtefa ct. and on the next scene, you can see that william is taking off his helmet to being recognised by the helmet to show that he is alive and the battle have to continue to the victor. the story starts with the dying king of england, edward the confessor, promising the throne to william. he sends the message to william in france via a trusted nobleman called harold godwinson. but when edward dies, harold is offered the crown by the governing council of england and takes it for himself, ensuing william s rage. how factual is it? how factual? it s a representation, you know, of the events of the year 1064 1066. so, it s a story written by the victors, you know, and there is a lot, of course, of what we can call inaccuracy, and so mistake or choice to show some.only a point of view of the history. yeah. it s like. we can call it propaganda, you know? now over 900 years old, the bayeux tapestry has survived major events like the french revolution and even acted as a potential crib sheet for those looking to invade england as recently as world war ii. then it was confiscated by the germans. so it did end up in german hands? it did end up in german hands here in bayeux for they study it, and also to know how to invade england, of course. really?! yes, of course. so germany were taking tips from william the conqueror s story? dives sur mer is the town william left from to invade england. though i must admit, it s hard to imagine a full blown invasion force gathered here today. wow, look at this place! where are all the knights in their suits of armour? i m meeting francois, an archaeologist who, like many other normans, is in love with his history. wow! hello, steve. francois, bonjour! salut. nice to meet you. but what is it that separates normandy from other regions in france? what s so special here? there is so much history here. in dives sur mer, the past isn t just consigned to books and museums, it s part of everyday life. even the weekly market takes place in a hall that dates back to the 13005. this all looks so nice. yes. what have we got here? that doesn t look french. yeah? when i think french food, i think cheese, bread not this. yeah? oh, really? i d love to, please! thank you. when the baker finished with his oven, the villagers would make this? 0ui. 0h, amazing. that s nice, eh? that s nice. look, all of these names, the people it s bizarre. you thinkjust william the conqueror. notjust soldiers archers, stable boys. 0ui. there s lots of people involved. the names featured on the wall are william s top brass the ones who helped him rule england, and that would later become the cornerstone for the country s aristocracy. william the conqueror a national hero? was he a tyrant, a kind king? what kind of person.? normandy s countryside is well, let s face it picture perfect. and there s only one way to see it in the passenger seat of a french classic car. ..like the citroen 2cv. french culture has an abundance of style and a certainje ne sais quoi. so it s no surprise france has produced some of the world s finest artists. 2024 is a really important anniversary in the world of art. it s 150 years since the movement of impressionism was founded, giving the world artists like monet. i ve come to the norman village of giverny. it s famed worldwide as being the home of french artist claude monet, who lived here from 1883 all the way up to his death in 1926. the gardeners here do an amazing job. they must go around with one of monet s pictures. it s identical! patricia is a local artist, and with giverny being a major tourist attraction in normandy, she has a sideline running tours around monet s house and gardens. patricia, this place is as pretty as a picture. i think i recognise it. really?! yeah! is it possible? he painted this place more than 250 times. yeah? yeah. so, tell me, why did he paint it so many times? because he made series of the light, yeah? so, you see today we have wonderful reflections, and this is what he loved. so, he created this garden being inspired by the japanese art, because at that time, in europe and all over the world, japan was the new fashion. and monet became a fashion victim. 0h, right! so, that makes sense. we ve got the bamboo, we ve got the very japanese style bridge. yes. impressionism was groundbreaking. the year 1874 was a time of great change in france. claude monet and a group of his friends decided it was time for art to change too. with the opening of new train lines and the invention of paints in tubes, they could leave their studios in paris and capture places like normandy on canvas. when they set up their own radical exhibition on their return to the city, a notable critic of the time compared their work to a sketch for a wallpaper pattern a mere unfinished impression which gave this movement its name. but looking around this museum in giverny, it s clear to see who got the last laugh. how does yours already look better than mine? laughing: because i m a painter. - because you re a painter, yeah. so, tell me a little bit about monet s relationship with normandy. normandy became one of his major subjects because he loved the light changes. you know, monet always used to say, here the light changes every seven minutes. and if you look at that today, i think that s true. yeah. claude monet never painted any water lilies. what?! yes! he painted the light on top of the lilies. 0h. you get it? ..my mind is blown! i ve come to that reflection part now, and i don t really know what i m doing. in fact, to paint the reflections, you should do vertical lines. this is what monet made. and look, it s vertical. can you see? no. they both laugh. how is yours so different from mine? i don t understand. because you have a different style. i don t have a different style i can t do it! patricia chuckles. it s starting to rain. i think we should better stop. what do you think? because otherwise, our paintings will be messy. we will never be able to sell them for $1 million. they both laugh. ok? ok. normandy s ever changing weather has put an end to my lesson, but that is my first and possibly last effort at impressionism art. it s no monet, but it s a steve brown. back here on the coast, scars from normandy s more recent history can still be felt today. 0njune 6th, 1944, 80 years ago, the d day landings happened on a stretch of normandy s beaches. the objective of d day was to secure a foothold in nazi occupied europe. it was the largest naval, air and land operation in history. on that fateful summer s day, the allies used over 5,000 ships and landing craft to carry more than 150,000 troops to normandy s beaches codenamed utah, 0maha, gold, juno and sword. 4,414 allied soldiers died on d day itself. in 2021, the british normandy memorial was opened overlooking gold beach. to mark the 80th anniversary of the d day landings, dan and his team of volunteers from the arts group standing with giants will place 1,475 handmade silhouettes at the memorial to mark the number of servicemen who died on d day itself under british command. applause. hey, look at that! give it a wiggle, ed. get your toes on it. so, that s the first one up, then. do they all look the same? no, we ve got 11 different designs, all representing different groups that came over the beaches on that particular day. yeah, you don t want to leave anyone out, do you? well, no. we was told, apparently we ve left out frogmen. oh, no! do you know, my great uncle was a stretcher bearer on d day? 0h, right. you know, it s amazing, isn t it? everyone s got their stories. and did you meet your great uncle? um, no, i didn t, and if i m honest with you, my understanding and the facts that i ve got from family are quite sparse. but, do you know, standing here with you, looking out across the beach that he would have been helping on, i m certainly going to go back and find out more about him. because everyone played their role and the stretcher bearers and the nurses, i mean, they were witnessing horror continuously just continuously. and, you know, it was just so hard for them. and because of that, we ve also designed two nurses. there were two nurses on one of the boats that hit a mine, and they got blown up and killed. so we ve actually brought with us two giant nurses, laser cut in steel, to represent the nurses and the ladies that took part and that worked so hard behind the scenes. i m. i m lost for words. dan chuckles. i m lost for words. cafe gondree was the first french home to be liberated on d day. it s so good to meet you. thank you very much. it s still run by the same family. and i m meeting arlette, who was just four years old in 1944. but what a cafe! i mean, look around. there seems to be so many bits of memorabilia. it seems like everybody wants to share things with you. that s absolutely right. they want to come in because it s a house, a little house from the surface, that has lived history. we were woken up, or half asleep, by a tremendous crashing noise and then different movements around the house. and then suddenly the shutter from our dining room was being forced open and window panes were being broken, and we heard footsteps above our head. we thought the germans had come in to get us, but fortunately. that is. ..fortunately, daddy left us for a short time, walked up the little steps and was faced by soldiers saying to daddy, it s all right, we ve arrived. we re british. so he brought them in the cellar. and naturally, i was very frightened, so i went to hide behind the barrels. but then one of them took some chocolate out of his jacket with some biscuits, and so i came forward. mummy started kissing them. and then after that, daddy said, it s all for you, this house, and opened the door. and by then, casualties were brought in. i want to say an enormous thank you. ..to all those who have taken part. it was a team effort. here, it s the british, but within the british army there were other nationalities that were trained together. and this is to be commemorated for the 80th anniversary. and i can see you mean that, as well. i can see you mean that from the bottom of your heart. d day didn t end world war ii, but it was the beginning of the end, and there were still dark days ahead, and many more lives would be lost on all sides. the final stop on myjourney through time is the german war graves at la cambe. above the cemetery is a statue of a mother and father. it was placed there to watch over the sons that are buried below. history isn t just about buildings and museum pieces, it s about people. when you come to somewhere like normandy and see the places where it all happened, you start to realise that every name on a stone or in a textbook is a real person, and that offers you a perspective like no other. you thinkjust william the conqueror. good morning. welcome to breakfast, with luxmy gopal and ben boulos. 0ur headlines today: the eu s most senior diplomat has condemned the killing of palestinians in an israeli operation to rescue four hostages. the mission was to bring home the captives who had been held in gaza since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the country ahead of a key week, in which parties will set out their manifestos. after new cctv emerges of the tv presenter michael mosley, who vanished on a greek island on wednesday, his wife says she will not lose hope . in sport, england s defence of the t20 world cup is in danger. they re still to win in the tournament after a hefty defeat by australia in barbados in their second game and while it should be a sunny start for sunday for many of you, a lot more cloud and some patchy rain. details here on breakfast. good morning, it s sunday the 9th june. our main story: israel has been criticised by the european union s most senior diplomat over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza. eu foreign policy chief josep borrell called the reports another massacre of civilians . the mission to bring home the captives involved air strikes around a refugee camp. the moment she was made free. 25 year old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her dad after a dramatic rescue. translation: please do not forget there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make an effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. by the way, it is my birthday. also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages rescued in a major operation by the israeli military carried out at a refugee camp in central gaza. the military said it was a complex operation based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said were found at two separate locations and were brought out under file. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors struggled to treat all the wounded. many arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. the rescue was considered a success by israeli authorities and could change the calculation of a leader under pressure. hugh bachega, bbc news, tel aviv. 0ur correspondent, jon donnison, is injerusalem. jon, what has the reaction been in israel? i think it has been one of celebration and huge relief, especially for the families of the hostages who were released after being held for some 246 days. i also think it is given a boost to benjamin netanyahu because it allows him to say, look, his strategy is working. he believes the only way to get hostages out, or the best way, is to continue to put military pressure on hamas. contrast that with the mood in gaza, which is one of outrage at the number of civilians killed, many women and children. we have also had the eu s most senior diplomat, josep borrell, calling this another massacre and saying the bloodbath has to end immediately. the israeli mind ministerfired back immediately. the israeli mind minister fired back and said to josep borrell, shame on you, instead of condemning hamas, for holding hostages in civilian areas, he was attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. . ~ attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. ., ,, ., attacking israel for rescuing its citizens. ., ., ., campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the general election, with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. 0ur political correspondent, iain watson, has this report. the prime minister is in the market for votes. the main westminster parties will launch manifestoes in the week ahead. rishi sunak will be hoping it moves the focus onto policy, not personality. he will be keen to move on from his d day apology and so will his party, and his candidates have been out campaigning this weekend and we have been speaking to some this weekend. some of spoken about anger and disappointment and one of them said whatever will happen next? will rishi sunak s trousers fall down? others say voters have not raised the issue at all. 0ne candidate said they were so vexed by it, they have already defected to labour or the reform party. the prime minister will be hoping to keep his job afterjuly 4, and he wants to get more people into work, promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservatives claim they can save £12 billion from the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour says existing jails are bursting at the seams and the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places promised. if elected, the party says it would deliver that prison building programme and change the planning laws to make it a priority and give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign, saying they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care centers and providing more than 1,000 more beds. response time information will also be made readily available. today we get a sneak preview of the manifestoes but it is not until the full range of policies are published that we will know how well they connect with voters. we are nowjoined by our political correspondent, jessica parker. jessica, it s going to be a busy week for all of the parties, isn t it? absolutely! what we have had so far in the campaign is we have been essentially drip fed policy ideas and announcements and a couple of tv debates but it can feel like there is a lot of noise, charter, a bit hard to keep up with, but as we start to get those manifestoes over the coming weeks from the main parties, that will change a little bit because what a manifesto is as many will know, is a political party s programme for government, a blueprint for what it would do if that party was in power. i think what will be particularly interesting as well is that while we are not necessarily expecting major surprises from at least the two main parties, although of course you never know, i have not been the manifestoes yet, although there have been plenty of leaks and a announcements made, and a lot of discussion about how will parties pay for pledges? a lot of scrutiny and back and forth between labour and back and forth between labour and the conservatives and costings should be in the manifesto, so that will be very crucial. it will move the campaign onto the next phase after the first few weeks we ve had so far. . ~ ,, ~ after the first few weeks we ve had so far. ., ,, i. . , so far. thank you. we will be discussing so far. thank you. we will be discussing this so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later- so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later in - so far. thank you. we will be discussing this later in with i discussing this later in with political pundits. the search for the tv presenter michael mosley will resume on the greek island of symi after he went missing while out on a walk on wednesday. 0ur correspondent, joe inwood, is in symi. joe, what will the search teams be focusing on this morning? it seems they will be looking at roughly the same area as they were yesterday. this is a big, rocky outcrop going north from the main village, the last known sighting of michael mosley, we saw new cctv shortage showing him walking at two o clock purposefully towards the hills. the suggestion is he did not take the most direct route, the town where i m staying now, symi, but instead around the mountain and over the top and all the way back that way. if he had decided to do that, that with a very long walk in incredible heat and my legs are burning from standing in the sun too long! it is really hot and it s only nine o clock in the morning! at 130 in the afternoon it is seriously hot! that is why they are trying to find him quickly but as the days go on it is becoming a more consenting situation. , ., ., , situation. and his wife, claire has said they would situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not lose - situation. and his wife, claire has said they would not lose hope? i said they would not lose hope? absolutely. she put out a statement yesterday describing the time since michael had left is the most difficult period. also thanking authorities but it is keeping that core message that they will not lose hope and authorities have said they will continue to search and look for michael mosley until he is found. the longer it goes on, the more they hope will dwindle, i m sorry to say. it s another thing we have lent this morning is the search and rescue squad on the hillside has been sent to athens, which could be a sign they are winding down but it has been reported that it is so hot that the dog has been burning its paws on the dog has been burning its paws on the hillside that they cannot search because of the heat. so that is a development we have had in the last hour or. it development we have had in the last hour or. ., , hour or. it does highlight temperatures hour or. it does highlight temperatures there. - hour or. it does highlight i temperatures there. thank hour or. it does highlight - temperatures there. thank you. hour or. it does highlight temperatures there. thank you. we will return to symi to keep you updated throughout the morning. south korea says it will resume propaganda broadcasts against north korea for the first time in six years. seoul s national security council said its decision to install loudspeakers and begin broadcasts was in response to pyongyang s campaign of sending balloons carrying rubbish across the border. the council added that any attempt at causing distress to the people of south korea was unacceptable. narendra modi is set to be sworn in as prime minister of india for his third term today. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he heads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old girl is among four people who were injured after a fun fair ride malfunctioned in lambeth in south london. 0ur reporter helena wilkinson is at the lambeth country show where it happened. helena, what more do we know? it was a serious incident is what lambeth council are saying. let me step out of the shot and show you the fairground where the incident took place just before 630 yesterday afternoon. we do not know which rider was where the four people were injured but as you mention, the council confirming that a malfunction happened on one of the fairground rides. there was a huge emergency response, the air ambulance, four ambulance crews and paramedics came treat the four injured, an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their 405, and another man in his 505. they were taken from here to major trauma centres. it is not confirmed what injuries they have. we are trying to find that out. we do know their conditions are not life threatening. the council say a thorough investigation will take place to work out exactly how that fairground ride malfunctioned. thank you. people in countries including france, germany and spain go to the polls in the european elections today. it s the final and main day of voting for the eu s 27 members with the first results expected tonight. damien mcguinness is in berlin. damien, what impact could this vote have across europe? could the results signal a shift to the far right? could the results signal a shift to the far right? yeah, the big story this ear the far right? yeah, the big story this year does the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be - the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be a - the far right? yeah, the big story this year does seem to be a shift| the far right? yeah, the big story i this year does seem to be a shift to the right and in some cases indeed the right and in some cases indeed the far right. what we are thing across europe in many countries is a rise in popularity of either the hard populist right or extreme right. in germany it is slightly different because the far right party had been hit by a number of scandals that they may not do as well as others, but in countries like france, italy, the populist right is surging, meaning the european parliament will have a bigger chunk of eurosceptic meps there, having a big impact on eu policy because the eu does a lot of transborder issues and anything to do with migration, to do with climate change, a lot of stuff to do with supporting ukraine, is all decided by the eu, and all those laws have to be passed by the european parliament. so if you have one fifth or 20% of that parliament made up of eurosceptic and in some cases far right meps, that will have a big impact on whether those issues move forward or get blocked. i think that s what we will see and that s why people all over europe and indeed outside of europe or look at these elections and see whether the eu can make decisions when it comes forth a climate change migration and what those decisions may look like. in berlin, the polling stations have openedin in berlin, the polling stations have opened in the first few voters have walked in and the other big question is what will turn out be like? last time five years ago, it was relatively high but this time it could be even higher, and that is connected to the idea that the far right is doing well because that is also mobilising a lot of people in the centre and left to say they do not want to hand the european parliament over to the far right. lots to look out for today as the results start coming out tonight. thank you for the update. some poor ignorant moments in the coverage of the d day 80th anniversary of the past week especially on breakfast, here is one that may have escaped your attention. a world war two veteran has married his bride on the 80th anniversary of d day near the beaches of normandy in france. harold terens, a 100 year old us army air force veteran from florida, tied the knot with 96 year old jeanne swerlin at a ceremony in carentan les marais, in northwestern france. originally from new york, harold visited france as an air force corporal shortly after d day, when he was just 20 years old. to top off the extraordinary day, the newly wedded couple then attended the state banquet in paris thrown by president macron for us leaderjoe biden. here is what the happy couple had to say. i m 100 years old and my bride is 96 and to be married, it s my second, normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do you feel young again? yes! at 96, ifeel like, my god, i got butterflies, just like the young people! it is notjust the young people, love, you know! we get butterflies we also get a little bit of action! i love them. that is so brilliant, that still puts a smile on my face however many times i see that. look at that stunning however many times i see that. look at that stunning blue however many times i see that. look at that stunning blue sky over saint pauls cathedral. tia at that stunning blue sky over saint pauls cathedral. pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of london, - pauls cathedral. no cloud action above the city of london, blue i pauls cathedral. no cloud action - above the city of london, blue skies and a lovely start to sunday across many central and areas, its go further north to northern england, this is just outside further north to northern england, this isjust outside bradford. shower clouds, lots of clouds streaming its way in, many will take a step into the cloud as we go through the day even if you start with some sunshine, cloud has been streaming from the north atlantic overnight, here it comes, to the north cool conditions, blustery and a few showers to the south, clear skies, through northern island and parts of southern scotland north west england and wales the cloud is thickest, central and southern ranges start with sunshine but cloud over, parts of devon, cornwall and dorset and south wales will stay sunny, to the north a mixture of sunshine and showers. let s look at that area of the cloudiest weather, across parts of island and northwest england and wales in the west of northern island, rain more persistent into the afternoon. temperature still well down on where you want at this stage injune, 10, 11 degrees for some in northern scotland, 18 or 19 for the south, this evening and overnight the rain will clear away from northern island and spread across england and wales giving some gardens a welcome soaking after a few dry days, the rain linger across eastern areas into tomorrow morning but clear skies for scotland and northern ireland, temperatures well down into low figures in rural areas, there are northerly winds from scandinavia this weather system will move eastwards overnight giving a wet and windy start across parts of lincolnshire, yorkshire, east midlands, east anglia on monday morning, rain lingering across eastern counties but away from that brighter weather around, a mixture of sunshine and showers, more cloud than sunshine in northern scotland, where ever you are a northern northerly wind and feeling chillier and cloudy moments, temperatures down on what we had this weekend, cool into tuesday, the northerly breeze brings a tear from the arctic in fact, you won t feel like that in the sunshine, still quite present out of the breeze and the sunshine. is the cloud builds up during the day it will feel cooler and we will see shells developed, central and eastern areas prone to showers on wednesday and eastern and western areas could stay dry, temperatures 10 - 17 areas could stay dry, temperatures 10 17 degrees, well down on where you want for the stage of the summer. as we grow through the rest of the week, it will stay on the cooler side of things, one of those weeks that won t be a washout, there will be dry and bright weather but a view showers around the forecast stop not feeling like june. view showers around the forecast stop not feeling likejune. taste view showers around the forecast stop not feeling like june. we will seak to stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time - stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time now - stop not feeling like june. we will speak to you later. time now for l stop not feeling like june. we will. speak to you later. time now for 27 minutes past 7 a blue badge past 7 can be a lifeline for people with disabilities or health conditions, helping them to park closer to their destination but the number of badge thefts in london has more than quadrupled in the last decade. last year, more than 6,000 were stolen in the capital alone. some blue badge holders are being forces to take extra precautions to keep theirs safe, as paul hawkins reports. another blue badge stolen in the capital. 6415 last year up 400% over nine years according to figures from the metropolitan police. here is the car, you come down and find it and you go oh no! the badge is gone. michael has had his badge taken four times is now paired locking it to his steering wheel. times is now paired locking it to his steering wheel. what i had to do to sto it his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, is. - his steering wheel. what i had to do to stop it being stolen, is. get- to stop it being stolen, is. get one of these, you have to put it inside the metal holder. then you have a piece of pvc over the top. it fits so you can be seen, then, you put that through and then you block it to your steering wheel. since having this it has not been taken yet. you will see on the street there are two other blue badge over there are two other blue badge over the road that have got padlocks on. the blue badge is part of being liberated, if i come down and find my car has been robbed of my blue badge and i m suddenly much more restricted and that is really what a blue badge is for, to open my welder will stop what would be your message for the people selling them? fitpplr; for the people selling them? apply for the people selling them? apply for one that for the people selling them? apply for one that is for the people selling them? apply for one that is in for the people selling them? apply for one that is in date for the people selling them? apply for one that is in date which - for the people selling them? apply for one that is in date which is what for one that is in date which is what they for one that is in date which is what they are going for? then surely that s what they are going for? then surely that s a what they are going for? then surely that s a lot what they are going for? then surely that s a lot of parking, you would have that s a lot of parking, you would have to that s a lot of parking, you would have to park a lot. we that s a lot of parking, you would have to park a lot. have to park a lot. we asked the olice for have to park a lot. we asked the police for an have to park a lot. we asked the police for an interview have to park a lot. we asked the police for an interview but - have to park a lot. we asked the | police for an interview but no-one police for an interview but no one was available but they sent us a link to one of their webpages called prevent theft from a vehicle. there are 11 steps number set is take it with you or hide it, if it is valuable hide it from view or take it with you. how useful is that for you? it with you. how useful is that for ou? ., , ., it with you. how useful is that for ou? ., ,, , it with you. how useful is that for ou? ., j ,, you? not, you can t keep your blue badue out you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of sight you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of sight because - you? not, you can t keep your blue badge out of sight because it - you? not, you can t keep your blue| badge out of sight because it allows you to park. that s ridiculous. what you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your advice? you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your advice? one - you to park. that s ridiculous. what would be your advice? one of - you to park. that s ridiculous. what| would be your advice? one of these adlock would be your advice? one of these padlock systems would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems to - would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems to be - would be your advice? one of these padlock systems seems to be the i would be your advice? one of these i padlock systems seems to be the only way forward. the only thing is we need to have a redesign of the blue badge system, my photograph and designs are on the back of the blue badge which means everybody, the public, traffic wardens and fleas can t see if it is meant to be used by me, stealing people 5 blue badges is one of the things as we know is getting and more prevalent, it is disabling people more. pauli it is disabling people more. paul hawkins, bbc it is disabling people more. paul hawkins, bbc news. we are joined now by paul slowey, who is the founder of blue badge fraud investigations a community interest company who work with local authorities investigating badge fraud. good morning to you, thank you for joining us. itjust sounds absolutely disgusting behaviour. why has there been an increase in this, why are people taking such drastic action to get hold of the badge? thanks getting a stolen badge enables the criminal to a park for free, there is very little detection, i am quite shocked at the police advised to see you book disabled people to do something to prevent the crime rather than the police investigate the crime or solve the crime or prosecute people. the serial numbers on the front of the badge and there is a national database of badges and it is easy to put on the serial number into that database and detect it is stolen, and we seized a badge north of leicester square yesterday that was stolen, and speaking to the driver, he said he bought it on the street, and leicester square yesterday. we were talking among ourselves about this earlier this morning. if the cars can be registered to a database for the tax does, could there not be a similar system where car numberplates could be registered on a central database and parking enforcement could check that and removes the need to have a badge on display. the removes the need to have a badge on disla . , , , ., removes the need to have a badge on disla. , ,, ., ., display. the badge is issued to an individual not display. the badge is issued to an individual not a display. the badge is issued to an individual not a vehicle, display. the badge is issued to an individual not a vehicle, mick- display. the badge is issued to an i individual not a vehicle, mick might go in a different car, go out with his friends, lots of disabled people don t have a car, they are driven around by friends or family. don t have a car, they are driven around by friends orfamily. and family will use different cars. the badges are issued to an individual not to a vehicle. however, there is a national database with all the badges on it, and it has the six and a half thousand badges stolen last years and the serial numbers that database, it is a simple task of checking the badge against the database and if it comes up stolen the badge can be seized, the car can be seized. some authorities are brilliant at this and doing a great job. the majority are doing nothing stopping the police are doing nothing. there were two cars parked outside a police station with stolen badges and police walking past them all day. badges and police walking past them all da . ~ ., ., badges and police walking past them allda .~ ., ., badges and police walking past them allda . ~ ., ., ~ all day. what do you think the solution is, all day. what do you think the solution is, how all day. what do you think the solution is, how can all day. what do you think the solution is, how can it - all day. what do you think the solution is, how can it be - all day. what do you think the - solution is, how can it be stopped? it needs to be enforced, if you enforce the law people will lose the appetite to use a stolen badge, there is a real risk of people being prosecuted for fraud which is the fence they will stop seeing them. the courts have got powers to ban people from driving, power to seize vehicles, and in some authorities they are doing that, in some authorities they are prosecuting two or 300 people a year, and others they are doing nothing. people need to raise this with the councils, with mp5 and say, what is my counsel doing? fits with mps and say, what is my counsel doinu ? , , ., with mps and say, what is my counsel doint? a with mps and say, what is my counsel doint? ., , with mps and say, what is my counsel doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime rather- doing? as you say the owners should be on stopping the crime rather than| be on stopping the crime rather than expect thing blue badge holders to prevent and themselves, we saw in the piece by paul some of the strange advice such as take the badge with you which obviously doesn t make sense because it has to be on display. what other advice do you have for blue badge holders to try to minimise the risk? the you have for blue badge holders to try to minimise the risk? try to minimise the risk? the first thin is try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock the - try to minimise the risk? the first thing is mick said lock the badge l try to minimise the risk? the first. thing is mick said lock the badge to your steering wheel, don t display it overnight because a lot of their happens overnight. the emphasis should not be on disabled people to change their behaviour the emphasis should be on police and local authorities to enforce the scheme and eradicate the use of stolen badges. that will solve the problem. i will give a quick example. when i was younger, they did not have barriers to travel on trains, they did not have inspectors on the whole. a lot of people used to travel on the trains for free. they introduced barriers and inspectors, they started to enforce the scheme by giving out fines and compliance went up. we can increase compliance with the blue badge scheme, notjust stolen badges but the misuse of badges if the scheme is enforced, in some places it is not being enforced and it has been around for over 50 years, some councils have never enforced the scheme which is a shocking. it needs to be enforced. thank you so much for taking the time to speak to us. paul slowly found blue badge investigations. andrew malkinson had been branded a monster after being convicted for the rape of a woman in 2003. but police had got the wrong man. after serving nearly two decades in prison for a crime he didn t commit, mr malkinson was released last year. speaking on a bbc documentary, he says he is still haunted by the ordeal, as our correspondent lindsey smith reports. 0rdinary people should be aware that they could be taken, it could happen to anyone. fish they could be taken, it could happen to an one. ., ., , ., ., to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who suffered to anyone. an ordinary man from grimsby who suffered an - extraordinary miscarriage of justice. extraordinary miscarriage of ustice. , ., ,. , ., justice. these are describing a rape is especially justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. in justice. these are describing a rape is especially vicious. in 2004 - is especially vicious. in 2004 andrew malkinson is especially vicious. in 2004 andrew malkinson was - is especially vicious. in 2004 - andrew malkinson was convicted of the rape of a mother in selford. when i said when he said i am taking you down i said i am completely innocent. so everyone could hear it, i was frightened. how will i survive in here for any length of time? will i survive in here for any lenath of time? , ., , ., length of time? the news devastating his famil in length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much - length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much as - length of time? the news devastating his family in grimsby. as much as i i his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say his family in grimsby. as much as i don t want to say 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emotional. he is free. greater manchester police - wasjust so emotional. he is free. i greater manchester police apologised for the failings of their investigation, as yet nobody has been charged for the 2003 rape and attempted murder. lindsey smith, bbc news. you can hear more of andrew malkinson s story. on the wrong man: 17 years behind bars, which is available to watch now on bbc iplayer. sunday with laura kuenssberg is on bbc one at nine o clock this morning. let s find out what she has in store. good morning. it is busy and week three of this frantic election campaign and the pace is getting quicker and quicker and quicker. this morning will be asking how the tories can come back from the prime minister s disastrous blunder over leaving d day early, the tories have been rattled by that and panicking to losing votes of reform uk, and nigel farage shall be with us live this morning along with politicians from the tory party, labour and the s&p and a cracking panel as well! look forward to seeing you at nine o clock. more than 80 nautre conservation groups have come together to launch a legal bid to force the next government to do more in tackling the decline of wildlife in england. organisations including the national trust and the rspb are also calling for politicians from all parties to pledge to do more to boost bio diversity. 0ur rural affairs correspondent, malcolm prior, reports. water fails, waterfails, one of water fails, one of the waterfails, one of the most endangered species in the uk, but entering a comeback in this nature reserve in the cotswolds, a welcome success story when uk wildlife is in decline. it takes hard graft to bring nature back to life. it is hoped networks of small sites like these will kickstart a wider wildlife resurgence across the countryside. wildlife resurgence across the countryside- wildlife resurgence across the count side. ., , , countryside. the idea is then these areas can then countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand into - countryside. the idea is then these areas can then expand into the i countryside. the idea is then these i areas can then expand into the wider countryside because we know that you re trying to manage a small nature reserve does not work. managing one reserve cannot work, we cannot do it on our own, we are small and charities and we need more political thinking, people higher up making the decisions to really improve nature. but making the decisions to really improve nature. improve nature. but to the volunteers improve nature. but to the volunteers believe - improve nature. but to the i volunteers believe politicians improve nature. but to the - volunteers believe politicians share their passion to protect nature? the state of their passion to protect nature? tie: state of nature report last year says nature is still in decline and it needs to be something they are acting on immediately. we it needs to be something they are acting on immediately. acting on immediately. we need commitment acting on immediately. we need commitment from acting on immediately. we need commitment from whatever i acting on immediately. we need - commitment from whatever government takes us commitment from whatever government takes us to commitment from whatever government takes us to the future to improve wildlife, takes us to the future to improve wildlife, to takes us to the future to improve wildlife, to improve peoples access to green wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces. you wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces- wildlife, to improve peoples access to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without also - to green spaces. you cannot combat climate change without also looking | climate change without also looking after the climate change without also looking after the wildlife. climate change without also looking after the wildlife. but climate change without also looking after the wildlife. after the wildlife. but this is about more after the wildlife. but this is about more than after the wildlife. but this is about more than election i after the wildlife. but this is i about more than election prattle pledges and promises. there are already legally binding targets in place to protect more sites like this and to stop the decline of wildlife by 2030 but there s also concerns that we are far from achieving that. a coalition of more than 80 wildlife conservation and countryside groups are now launching a legal bid to force whoever is in power next month to step up efforts to fight nature decline in england. there has been a long time decline of wildlife we see no sign that the policy in place right now will be able to halt and reverse the decline so we need whoever formed the next government to step up and make the investment, the legal changes and take the action necessary to start to turn things around. the department to turn things around. the department for to turn things around. the department for environment, food and rural affairs would not comment on any future legal action that current policy did not need to be reviewed until the end of january 2028. this is a uk wide issue, all four of the nation s administrations are committed to protecting 30% of lancia nature by that 2030 but three of the uk s biggest conservation groups, the national trust, the rspb, and the wildlife trust have joined forces to column politicians to more. irate joined forces to column politicians to more. ~ ., ., , ., to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such an - to more. we feel passionately that the nature crisis in such an extent| the nature crisis in such an extent that none of another political parties are taking the challenge seriously so why here to ask them to think about that and show us their response. irate think about that and show us their resonse. ~ .,. ., response. we need action within the first ear response. we need action within the first year of response. we need action within the first year of the response. we need action within the first year of the next response. we need action within the first year of the next government, i first year of the next government, nieaning first year of the next government, meaning they need detailed plans of how they meaning they need detailed plans of how they will turn things around, restore how they will turn things around, restore the abundance of nature, get it working restore the abundance of nature, get it working again. this restore the abundance of nature, get it working again- it working again. this coalition of rou -s is it working again. this coalition of groups is calling it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on their- it working again. this coalition of groups is calling on their 8 i it working again. this coalition of| groups is calling on their 8 million plus members deport election candidates on the spot over nature decline. ., , u, candidates on the spot over nature decline. .,, u, , . candidates on the spot over nature decline. .,, , ., candidates on the spot over nature decline. , ., decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, people - decline. people can play a part in this. absolutely, people should l decline. people can play a part in. this. absolutely, people should be asking candidates turning up on their doorstep and telling them what they want to see for this nature restoration programme. the conservatives restoration programme. the conservatives have - restoration programme. the conservatives have said they have clear policies to protect 30% of land by 2030, while labour launched a new countryside protection plan that it says will create new species rich habitats. the lib dems say they would double the amount of land would double the amount of [and protected for nature by 2050. like primary says more public investment is needed to support nature recovery while the s&p is also committed to halting biodiversity loss by 2030. no detail budgeting has been produced by any plans to protect uk wildlife. election promises are one thing but it is on the ground where the real work begins. malcolm prior, bbc news. election and the environment one of the key issues in this election. in the key issues in this election. in the meantime, here is some sport. and a focus on cricket? the meantime, here is some sport. and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the t-20 - and a focus on cricket? england are in a bit of trouble in the t-20 cup. l in a bit of trouble in the t 20 cup. they were beaten heavily by australia last night, meaning england has started one draw, and high and they are running out of games, they have to be tomane and namibia heavily and hope australia beat another, scotland, namibia heavily and hope australia beatanother, scotland, in namibia heavily and hope australia beat another, scotland, in the same way to make sure they have a chance of getting through to the same stage. scotland are now in a position where they could stop england progressing. == position where they could stop england progressing. england s start of two matches no wins has put their chances of making the next stage in doubt. put into bat in barbados, david warner and travis head made a flying start 70 without loss in the 5th over australia reaching 201 7 from their 20 overs. in reply, england started strongly, captainjos buttler top scoring with 42 but they lost wickets at regular intervals and they ultimately fell well short of their target, losing by 36 runs. the situation we find ourselves in is the situation we find ourselves in. we have to be confident. keep our heads up and look forward to the next one and keep popping our chest out and play some really good cricket, which we know we are capable of. south africa remain top of their group after surviving a scare against the netherlands. chasing 104 to win, they were 12 for [i at one stage. but they managed the run chase well. an unbeaten 59 off 51 balls from david miller saw south africa win by four wickets. while, overnight, uganda were bowled out forjust 39 in their defeat to west indies. nearly a week on from the death of a rugby league legend, the sport had what is traditionally its biggest day of the season and the challenge cup finals at wembley provided a poignant backdrop to the commemorations of rob burrow. tributes were followed by the trophies for wigan s men and st helens women, as adam wild reports. a game and a chief befitting the memory of the great rob burrow. wigan warriors rugby league challenge cup winners, a moment of celebration and the culmination of a day of raw emotion. 0n the game s rangers stage, the sport had come together to remember an inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby inspirational champion. fans from across the rugby league inspirational champion. fans from | across the rugby league community gathering to pay their very own personal tribute to the late rob burrow, who passed awayjust a few days ago after his battle with motor neuron disease, tribute that will continue throughout the day. he meant everything, everything to me, the club, meant everything, everything to me, the club, the mnd community, amazing the club, the mnd community, amazinu. ,, ., the club, the mnd community, amazinu. ., ., , amazing. one thing rugby league does is look after its 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silence, and it was weekend already raining super league and while club champions who took the first half lead, bevan french twisting and turning his way over. turning his way over. french, dazzling! turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, their - turning his way over. french, dazzling! that, their second l turning his way over. french, i dazzling! that, their second try, the captain rampaging through to extend the captain rampaging through to extend the lead and from there, warrington would not find a way back warrington would not find a way back. wigan warriors, wembley winners back. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. back. wigan warriors, wembley winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale windfall- winners once again. earlier, there was no fairytale windfall leads. i winners once again. earlier, there! was no fairytale windfall leads. was no fairytale windfall leads. leads, beaten comprehensively by st helen s for the third year in a row. gorry for st helen s women and for wigan warriors men on a day when the whole sport of rugby league came together to celebrate one of its own. adam wild, bbc news, wembley. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title is over after the saints won a dramatic premiership final at twickenham. alex mitchell scored the winning try against bath, who were down to 11! men, with just seven minutes left as northampton claimed their second championship and a perfect send off for the departing courtenay lawes after 17 years with the club. not really sunk in yet because we have been so focused on this for so long, and during the game, and i just wanted the win, however you can. then you get there and you re like oh! have we done it? do you know what i mean? cannot put it into words. i think we deserved it. over the season we have been the best team and sometimes you have to find a way to win. team and sometimes you have to find a way to win- a way to win. apparently the goggles are because a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of the a way to win. apparently the goggles are because of the champagne i a way to win. apparently the goggles| are because of the champagne spray! after a disappointing start to the french open for british singles players the tournament ended on a high with alfie hewett and gordon reid winning the men s wheelchair doubles title for a fifth successive year. another serial winner is iga swiatek. atjust 23 years of age she s a french open singles winner for the fourth time. she continued her recent dominance on the roland garros clay with a straight sets win against first time major finalist jasmine paolini of italy. it was swiatek s third title in a row in paris and a fifth grand slam triumph overall. it s the turn of the men this afternoon, with carlos alcaraz taking on germany s alexander zverev. it s the first time either man has reached the final in paris. zverev is searching for his first grand slam title whilst alcaraz is going for his third and hoping tojoin an illustrious list of spaniards to have won the title at roland garros. i wanted to put my name on that list of the spanish players who have won this tournament, not only rafa nadal, ferrero, moya, cluster, a lot of the spanish players and players from all of the players on the spot he won the tournament and i really want to put my name on the list as well costa. there are no easy matches and if yodre there are no easy matches and if yodre in there are no easy matches and if you re in the final at roland garros, you re in the final at roland garros, you deserve to be there and that went garros, you deserve to be there and that went for him as well. he played a fantastic that went for him as well. he played a fantastic match and tournament in general a fantastic match and tournament in general and a fantastic match and tournament in generaland i m a fantastic match and tournament in general and i m expecting a very difficult general and i m expecting a very difficult match. it s the final few days of pre euros friendies and spain appear to be in good form although it was northern ireland that bore the brunt of it. not immediately though, sunderland defender daniel ballard gave northern ireland a shock lead just 67 seconds after kick off in majorca. but things soon turned as they conceded four goals in the first half and eventually lost 5 1. northern ireland should have an easier game against andorra on tuesday. spain face a far sterner test in their opening match of the euros against croatia on saturday. great britain have won their first medals at the european athletics championships in rome with romell glave taking bronze in the 100 metres. the race was won by olympic champion marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title on a golden night for hosts italy in rome, who won three medals. it s glaves first senior championship medal. it is incredible. i wanted to get the gold but i have to take the positive on top of that. positive things to take from here and just go back and look at the video and work on my weaknesses. george mills won silver in the men s 5000 metres, finishing behind norwegian starjakob ingebrigtsen. mills is the son of former england internationalfootballer danny mills and he s now got his sights set on the paris olympics next month. some want to run the 15 and the five in paris and hopefully tonight has done my chances of selection no harm. we will see. we re three weeks out until trials and straight back to training as of tomorrow and then get stuck in. )and it looks like the mercedes formula one team could be challenging for race wins again after george russell claimed pole for this evening s canadian grand prix. the briton recorded a time of one minute and twelve seconds exactly on his first run in the final session of qualifying in montreal. championship leader max verstappen posted exactly the same time in his red bull but because russell did it first he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. that race is on later. you can listen to it on radio 5 live, coverage starting at 630. time for a check on the weather and it s not feeling particularly summary. what is going on with the temperature? good morning. it feels like spring has kept on giving at the moment! to give you an idea of where we should be in terms of average temperatures, generally around 16 20 degrees across the uk but all parts of the uk below that, even caller on monday and tuesday, even some areas around five degrees lower than we expect. this chilly round of whether will continue and it could fill caller as we start the coming week and it s down to this area of low pressure. it is moving eastwards and drags down air from the north and some complication today is this cloud rolling in on a weather front, outbreaks of rain which are persistent in the west today and that will run into parts of southwest scotland, northern england and patches of rain and drizzle throughout the day. some sunny spells and showers but quite a cool breeze and to the south of it, blue skies overhead for many. more car through the afternoon. sunny throughout the channel islands and parts of the far southwest and temperatures down where we should be and similarto temperatures down where we should be and similar to what they were yesterday. the rain this evening will gradually clear and spread across england and wales overnight and persistent parts of northern england and midlands and east anglia by the morning and clear skies by the end of the night sees the temperatures dropped lois down to three degrees in some valleys. this area of low pressure pushing its way eastwards and opened the floodgates to even more northerly winds. temperatures will drop a little bit more. could be a foggy morning across parts of yorkshire, east midlands, lincolnshire, anglia, and clearing parts of east anglia and away from that sunny spells developing and shower clouds brewing in the afternoon and anyway could see a shower pastor on the northerly breeze. cloudier without later on in the far north of scotland. the northerly wind strengthens further into monday evening. still feeling a little bit like spring. we ll be back with the headlines at eight but now it s time for this week s click. we choose to go to the moon in this decade. not because it is easy because it is hard. decade. not because it is easy because it is hard. one small step for man. because it is hard. one small step for man- one because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant leap because it is hard. one small step for man. one giant leap for i because it is hard. one small step i for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years ago for man. one giant leap for mankind. 52 years ago we laid our last footprint on the moon. as the crew of apollo 17 left the surface they did not know gene simmons would be the last person to walk on another world. we re on our way, houston. but now, in this decade, finally. ..we re going back. mission control: and lift off of artemis 1. nasa s artemis programme will, in the next year or two, return us to our neighbour. part of its mission to land the first woman and the first person of colour on the moon. another part to use what we learn here to send the first astronauts to mars. this is where it all began florida s kennedy space center named after the president who made the original pledge to go to the moon. and now, this place is at the centre of even grander plans, because this time, we re notjust visiting the moon we want to stay. this is gateway, humanity s first space station that will orbit another world. it will go round the moon every seven days. and, like the international space station above earth, astronauts will call this place home . although, where the iss can accommodate up to 12 astronauts and is comparable to a five or six bedroom house, gateway will be.more cosy. gateway is a studio apartment. it s. we re going to have room for our four astronauts, multiple docking ports, so we can bring our orion crew transportation ship, we can bring logistics, and we can dock a lander. these four explorers won t all be cooped up on board for the whole time, though. two will actually be spending a week or two on location, down on the lunar surface. it s a chance to further study the landscape and hopefully find a location for our next giant leap a permanent moon base. gateway will be there before we put a habitat on the surface. gateway allows us to access any point on the lunar surface. when we went with apollo, we had to pick that spot on the moon and go to it. gateway will give us the opportunity to go down at different locations. the first section of gateway could be launched as early as 2025, with new modules then being added from 2027. a lunar base is admittedly further out and it comes with risk, but also reward. so, how do we make that a reality? to find out, it s time for me to take one small step of my own. oh, wow. i can instantly see the dust kind of kicking up. yeah. it s really fine, isn t it? it leaves the footprints like you d expect. oh, my gosh. that s brilliant. and this is how moon dust behaves, itjust puffs up like that? it does, yeah. it s so fine. welcome to swamp works. ..the dusty, dirty lab where they work with simulated moon dust. now, the loose soil that covers the lunar surface is called regolith. it s extremely fine, very sharp on a microscopic scale, and it gets everywhere. so when we landed with apollo 11, we didn t know what the surface of the moon exactly was going to be like. you ll notice from some of the footage, the landing pads are quite huge on the landing legs and the ladder s far away from the surface. there was a lot of concern of, how much will this lander sink into the surface? how fluffy is this regolith? the surface is fine and powdery. i can.| can pick it up loosely with my toe. in fact, it s because the eagle lander didn t sink in as much as expected that neil armstrong had to take such a giant leap from the bottom rung of the ladder. today, swamp works is developing robots that can cope with and take advantage of lunar soil. and it will be very useful. see, moon dust is made of materials like silicon dioxide and calcium oxide, which all contain a lot of oxygen. if we could mine the regolith and use chemical processes to extract the oxygen, we could make our own breathable air and our own rocket fuel. the way space flight exploration has been working right now is imagine you re going on a holiday with your family, you re going on a long road trip, thousands of miles, right? right now, we are bringing a trailer behind us with all the gas, you know, that we need with us, all the fuel, everything that we need comes with us. so we want to change that paradigm. we want to. and one of the biggest things that makes the biggest impact is the fuel, right? if we can source some of that from the moon and eventually from mars, that will allow us to bring more and to go more often. making our own fuel makes regular trips to and from the gateway space station much more viable. now, mining moon dust is called isru. and, because they love an acronym round these parts, the robot to do this will be called the isru pilot excavator, ipex. we had to really reinvent how you do excavation for doing mining on the moon, and eventually mars. the challenge is the technology we have for mining here on earth relies on a lot of mass and a lot of weight, right? the more steel you put on an excavator, the heavier it becomes and the better it digs. we can t launch something as heavy as we want on a rocket. it s still very expensive, right? so we have to reduce the mass of what we put on rockets. and then when you land it on the moon, it weighs one sixth of what it does here on earth, right? imagine, like, trying to dig as if you were on ice, right? it will just scoot across the surface. the scoop will not engage and you won t be able to collect anything. so the way the robot scoops up the dust is using this thing called a bucket drum. and it s got a kind of spiral in there. and if it turns it one way, it scoops the soil, which gradually works its way towards the middle and stays there. like that. and then when it wants to unload. ..it turns it the other way and it all comes out again. we put them on opposite ends of the robot and when it excavates, it s using both sets of drums at the same time, but they re digging in opposite directions. so one is pulling it that way and one is pulling it that way. right. ..and pulling itself down to the surface. yeah. one of the main dangers faced by extraterrestrial rovers is getting stuck. so, as an added bonus, ipex s scoops and arms can also help it to get out of a hole orflip it over if it takes a tumble. one of its other defences will keep its cameras free from all that electrostatic dust, now, just like the fuel situation, we can t take building materials with us to the moon either we have to make our structures from moon dust. these bricks and blocks and bars have all been made by mixing and melting regolith with plastic. in the future, giant 3d printers will build shelters to protect those living on a world with no atmosphere from radiation, asteroid and micrometeoroid impacts, moonquakes and temperatures ranging from +100 to 200 degrees celsius. even replacement parts can be made from regolith. so this is a wheel that has been printed with regolith and polymer. ok. this is another example of what we can do if we capture the resources from the moon. now, do you know, i ve seen and held wheels for rovers before, full size wheels, and they re really light. right. but this is really heavy. yes, this is the opposite. because those wheels that are light, especially if you re sending it on a rocket, they need to be light because it s expensive. this is heavy because it s made on the moon. and heavy wheels are a good thing, i guess. it s better, right? especially for a digger like that. like the more weight that we have on the excavator, the better it s going to perform. would you believe you can even make rope out of regolith? this is made from basalt glass really, really thin fibres, a bit like optic fibre. so you could even make rope out of moon dust. these are hopeful times for space exploration, but it s always been a risky endeavour. im 1 odysseus lunar lander separation confirmed. this year, we ve seen three probes sent to the moon. two made it, and both of those had, shall we say, awkward landings. and the artemis mission to put boots back on the lunar ground has been pushed back to 2026 at the earliest. but nasa says space explorers need to take these setbacks in their stride. i don t see it as a disappointment. it s very cliche to say space is hard, but what we re endeavouring to do is highly complex. we expect challenges along the way so this doesn t surprise us and we re pushing forward. it sounds really expensive to do space exploration. is it, and is it worth it? so, yes, it s really expensive. it was really expensive for us to explore this planet, really expensive to lay rail infrastructure, to lay highway infrastructure, to put the infrastructure in place that allows us to travel in air traffic around this globe. it s absolutely necessary for us to lay that critical infrastructure for going to space, because what we learn in that endeavour is tremendous. the exponential growth that we ve seen in the world in technology is because of great endeavours like this. it s absolutely worth it. here in the united states, every year the general population is spending as much money on potato chips as our budget is every year to go out to the moon. that s a good figure. this has been a fascinating trip to nasa. motivation may be different to the space race of the 1960s. but the size of the ambition is just as great today. as we shoot for the moon, once again. good morning, welcome to breakfast with luxmy gopal and ben boulos. our headlines today. the eu s most senior diplomat has condemned the killing of palestinians in an israeli operation to rescue four hostages. the mission was to bring home the captives who had been held in gaza since the hamas attacks eight months ago. election campaigning continues across the country ahead of a key week in which parties will set out their manifestos. after new cctv emerges of the tv presenter michael mosley who vanished on a greek island on wednesday his wife says she will not lose hope . in sport, england s defence of the t20 world cup is in danger they re still to win in the tournament after a hefty defeat by australia in barbados in their second game. whilst there ll be a sunny start to sunday for some of you, a lot more cloud around today. that cloud increases, thickens, and we ll see some patchy rain, too. i ll have all the details here on breakfast. good morning, it s sunday the 9th ofjune. our main story. israel has been criticised by the european union s most senior diplomat over the killing of dozens of palestinians in an operation to rescue four hostages in gaza. eu foreign policy chief josep borrell called the reports another massacre of civilians . the mission to bring home the captives involved air strikes around a refugee camp. our middle east correspondent hugo bachega reports. the moment she was made free. 25 year old noa argamani captured by hamas on the 7th of october and taken to gaza is finally back in israel. this is her being reunited with her dad after a dramatic rescue. translation: please don t forget that there are another 120 - hostages in captivity. we must release them and make every effort in any way to bring them to israel and their families. by the way, it s my birthday look what a gift i got! also freed andrei kozlov, who s 27, shlomi ziv 40, and almog meirjan 21. eight months ago, they were at the nova music festival in southern israel, when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. the four hostages were rescued in a major operation by the israeli military in the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation, and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp, and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. but the rescue mission brought even more suffering to gaza. there was chaos and desperation at the nearby al aqsa hospital. doctors were unable to treat all the wounded. many people arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. my two cousins died, and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing they were sitting at home. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. the rescue was considered a success by the israeli authorities, and could change the calculation of a leader under pressure. hugo bachega, bbc news, tel aviv. our correspondent jon donnison is injerusalem. what reaction has there been? certainly do need here in israel has been one of celebration and relief, not least by the relatives of those four micro hostages who have not seen their loved ones for 246 days and i do think, as hugo suggested, it eases the pressure on prime minister netanyahu because it allows him to say, look, his strategy is working. he believes the best way to get the remaining hostages out, and there are some 116 people captured on october seven still being held, 40 on october seven still being held, a0 or so of whom are thought to be dead stop he believes the best way is to apply military pressure on hammers. hamas. there is outrage at the number of civilians killed. we have seen really discerning images from the two main hospitals in the centre of gaza, with scores of casualties being brought in, many women and children. there has also been strong condemnation from the eu s most senior diplomat, who said this was another massacre, and called for the bloodbath to end immediately. an israeli minister fired back, saying shame on you, instead of criticising hamas for holding civilians in civilian neighbourhoods, he was targeting israel for trying to rescue its citizens. ., ., ., citizens. for the moment, thanks very much- citizens. for the moment, thanks very much- jon citizens. for the moment, thanks very much. jon donnison - citizens. for the moment, thanks very much. jon donnison in i very much. jon donnison in jerusalem. back here. we are hurtling towards the general election. now less than a month away. so the battle to win votes intensifies. campaigning continues ahead of what is likely to be a busy week in the lead up to the general election, with another scheduled election tv debate and manifestos set to be published. our political correspondent iain watson has this report. just when you get a bit stressed. the prime minister s in the market for votes. the main westminster parties will launch their manifestos in the week ahead. rishi sunak will be hoping that this moves the focus firmly onto policy, not personality. he ll be keen to move on from his d day apology, but what s the mood in his party? his candidates like him have been out campaigning this weekend, and we ve been speaking to some of them. some have spoken about anger and disappointment. one of them despairingly said, whatever is going to happen next? will the prime minister s trousers fall down? others say that voters haven t raised the issue at all, and one candidate said that those who are so vexed by this have already defected to labour or reform. the prime minister will be hoping to keep his job after polling day onjuly the ath, and he wants to get more people into work. he s promising to spend £700 million to help people struggling with mental health to rejoin and stay in the workforce. but he s also repeating previous announcements to toughen up benefits rules. the conservatives claim they could save £12 billion from the welfare bill by the end of the next parliament. labour say existing jails are bursting at the seams, and that the government has failed to provide the 20,000 more prison places that it promised. if elected, the party says it will deliver that prison building programme, and change the planning laws to make it a priority. they ll also give offenders more help to get into employment. the state of the nhs has been prominent in the lib dems campaign they say they want to take pressure off the ambulance system by expanding urgent care centres and providing a thousand more hospital beds. information on local ambulance response times would also be made readily available. so today, we get a sneak preview of the manifestos but it s not until the full range of policies are published that we ll know how well they connect with voters. iain watson, bbc news. we are nowjoined by our political correspondentjessica parker. good morning. this week we are expecting more detail as the parties set out their policies. yes. set out their policies. yes, absolutely. set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the key - set out their policies. yes, absolutely. the key week, | set out their policies. yes, | absolutely. the key week, i set out their policies. yes, - absolutely. the key week, i think, in the election campaign. because what we have had so far are glimpses of what is going to be in the manifesto, and a drip feed of policy announcements from the different parties. and that can, i think, feel like there is a lot of noise going around, it can be hired to keep track of exactly who has said what. what the manifestos do, as many will know, they are documents where parties lay out their promises or at least their intentions for government, if they were to win power. and crucially, as well, costings should really be provided and people might have noticed there has been a lot of back and forth, wrangling, particularly between the conservative party and the labour party about how they are actually going to pay for things and the public finances. manifestos really allow fresh scrutiny of that. they aren t that holistic package of they are a package of promises from they are a package of promises from the parties. as we expect to get them from the main parties over the next week or so, it will be a gear change to the campaign, a key moment in this general election campaign. thank you. we will be discussing policies in a bit more detail shortly. the search for the tv presenter michael mosley will resume on the greek island of symi after he went missing while out on a walk on wednesday. our correspondent joe inwood is in symi. the temperatures have affected the search. in the temperatures have affected the search. ., , ., ., ,., search. in the last hour or so we have heard search. in the last hour or so we have heard that search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a police - search. in the last hour or so we have heard that a police dog i search. in the last hour or so we | have heard that a police dog that came over, we saw it coming over on the ferry, has been sent back to athens because it is just too hot for it to operate. apparently it was getting exhausted in the heat and burning its paws on the rocks. it doesn t indicate, we don t think it indicates they are changing the search, just that it seems the dogs are not able to operate on a hillside for long periods of time. despite that, the search is continuing, it is going on. they are basically working their way methodically across this stretch of land. it is a significant area they are trying to cover, though, and though there is not much cover there, there are caves, places that michael mosley could have tried to take shelter so they are obviously trying to search every inch of this hillside. trying to search every inch of this hillside. . , ., ., , hillside. and his wife clare has said that the hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family would i hillside. and his wife clare has said that the family would not| hillside. and his wife clare has i said that the family would not lose hope. said that the family would not lose ho e, r , , said that the family would not lose ho e. , ,., , , said that the family would not lose hoe. , . ., said that the family would not lose hoe. , , ., ., hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor i hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor of i hope. absolutely. they said that and that was echoed by the mayor of the | that was echoed by the mayor of the town, symi, who said they are going town, symi, who said they are going to continue searching for as long as it takes to find michael mosley. that statement from clare also thanked the people of this village, of this island, the greek authorities and the british consul for all the work they are doing, saying these have been the most terrible days. i am sure we can all imagine. terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. . ,, i. terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ ,, . terrible days. i am sure we can all imauine. ., ~ ,, . ., imagine. thank you, joe inwood in 5 mi and imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update you i imagine. thank you, joe inwood in symi and we will update you on i imagine. thank you, joe inwood in| symi and we will update you on any updates in the next hour. south korea says it will resume propaganda broadcasts against north korea for the first time in six years. seoul s national security council said its decision to install loudspeakers and begin broadcasts was in response to pyongyang s campaign of sending balloons carrying rubbish across the border. the council added that any attempt at causing distress to the people of south korea was unacceptable. narendra modi is set to be sworn in as prime minister of india for his third term today. he ll be sworn in alongside his cabinet as he heads a coalition of 15 parties following last week s election results. it makes him prime ministerfor a historic third consecutive term. an 11 year old girl is among four people who were injured after a fun fair ride malfunctioned in lambeth in south london. our reporter helena wilkinson is at the lambeth country show where it happened. good morning. what more can you tell us? ., , good morning. what more can you tell us? . . , , ., , good morning. what more can you tell us? . , , ., , . good morning. what more can you tell us? are really serious incident took lace here us? are really serious incident took place here yesterday us? are really serious incident took place here yesterday just us? are really serious incident took place here yesterdayjust before i place here yesterdayjust before 6:30pm. the fairground isjust behind me. iwanted 6:30pm. the fairground isjust behind me. i wanted to show you and live aerial view of the fairground itself. you will be able to see some of the rides in the fairground. there is some tarpaulin around one of them, but it is not clear, and we don t know rather, which is the ride that suffered that malfunction yesterday. what happened was a huge emergency response, as you would imagine. the airambulance emergency response, as you would imagine. the air ambulance arrived here. also four ambulance crews and paramedics. they treated an 11 year old girl, a man and woman in their a0s, also another man in his 50s here. they were then transferred to major trauma units. we know that their conditions are not life threatening, but we don t know what injuries they sustained during the incident here yesterday. the council says a thorough investigation will go on to establish why a ride here at the fairground malfunctioned, and the health and safety executive is also going to be informed. health and safety executive is also going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena wilkinson, i going to be informed. thank you, our correspondent helena wilkinson, andj correspondent helena wilkinson, and there is more on the bbc news website, as well. a world war ii veteran has married his bride on the 80th anniversary of d day near the beaches of normandy in france. harold terens, a 100 year old us army air force veteran from florida, tied the knot with 96 year old jeanne swerlin at a ceremony in carentan les marais, in northwestern france. originally from new york, harold visited france as an air force corporal shortly after d day, when he was just 20 years old. to top off the extraordinary day, the newly wedded couple then attended the state banquet in paris thrown by president macron for us leaderjoe biden. here is what the happy couple had to say. i m100 years old and my bridge is 96. i m100 years old and my bride is 96. and to be married in carentan. it s my second favourite normandy is my second favourite place in the whole world. i could live here for the rest of my life and be as happy as could be. do you feel young again? oh, yeah! at 96, i feel like. my god, i got butterfliesjust like the young people. - i mean it it s notjust for young people, love, you know? - we get butterflies and we get a little action also! laughter oh, that is brilliant, i love that. 96 year old jeanne and if i could have a fraction of the amount of energy she has. may be tying the knot, it s a good outfit for a. his knot, it s a good outfit for a. no wonder knot, it s a good outfit for a. in; wonder they have smiles on their faces! let s get the weather. blue skies over one part of the post dinner glucose but they will be looking with envy. they certainly will. lighting the smile they certainly will. lighting the smile across many in southern and centrai smile across many in southern and central areas. a few in eastbourne a short central areas. a few in eastbourne a short while central areas. a few in eastbourne a short while ago, looking mediterranean but let me take you north mediterranean but let me take you north towards anglesey and close to hotyhead north towards anglesey and close to holyhead. different colour of sky. the cloud holyhead. different colour of sky. the cloud has rolled in and it is that the cloud has rolled in and it is that which the cloud has rolled in and it is that which will become a bit more dominant that which will become a bit more dominant overhead for many as we go through dominant overhead for many as we go through the dominant overhead for many as we go through the coming hours and into the afternoon. a lot of it has been streaming the afternoon. a lot of it has been streaming out of the north atlantic, this strip streaming out of the north atlantic, this strip here, pushing its way, bringing this strip here, pushing its way, bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle to bringing outbreaks of rain and drizzle to northern ireland, parts of southern scotland and north west england of southern scotland and north west england and north west wales. breaks up england and north west wales. breaks up at times england and north west wales. breaks up at times across south east scotland up at times across south east scotland and north east england, so there scotland and north east england, so there will scotland and north east england, so there will be some sunshine in the sunshine there will be some sunshine in the sunshine in there will be some sunshine in the sunshine in south wales, the midlands, southwards, that will give way to midlands, southwards, that will give way to a midlands, southwards, that will give way to a lot more cloud, parts of devon, way to a lot more cloud, parts of devon, cornwall, dorset, channel tines devon, cornwall, dorset, channel lines will devon, cornwall, dorset, channel lines will stay sunny all day. still some lines will stay sunny all day. still some sunny spells by the north but a few showers. here is the cloudy is to spot few showers. here is the cloudy is to spot where the rain and drizzle will keep to spot where the rain and drizzle will keep coming and going and in northern will keep coming and going and in northern ireland, particularly to the west. northern ireland, particularly to the west, is where the rain is heavier the west, is where the rain is heavier and more persistent into the afternoon heavier and more persistent into the afternoon. it will feel rather chilly afternoon. it will feel rather chilly here, ten to 13 degrees. simitar chilly here, ten to 13 degrees. similar story in northern scotland. elsewhere. similar story in northern scotland. elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe 19 elsewhere, around 13 to 16 for many, maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots in maybe 19 and some of the brighter spots in the south. a wet evening in northern spots in the south. a wet evening in northern ireland, the rain then spreads northern ireland, the rain then spreads across much of england and wales spreads across much of england and wales. there will be some southern counties wales. there will be some southern counties not seen much of anything at att~ counties not seen much of anything at all. persistent rain by the end of the at all. persistent rain by the end of the night for some eastern parts of the night for some eastern parts of in the of the night for some eastern parts of in the. scotland and northern ireland, of in the. scotland and northern ireland, it of in the. scotland and northern ireland, it will clear and with clear ireland, it will clear and with clear skies and shelter from the breeze, clear skies and shelter from the breeze, some valleys could see temperatures down to 2 or three degrees temperatures down to 2 or three degrees. not helped by the fact you have northerly flow into monday, low pressure have northerly flow into monday, low pressure continuing to pull eastwards. the weather system you saw in eastwards. the weather system you saw in the eastwards. the weather system you saw in the chart, here it is, parts of of saw in the chart, here it is, parts of of yorkshire, linkage, east midlands, east anglia will stop a wet and midlands, east anglia will stop a wet and windy and cool start to monday wet and windy and cool start to monday. outbreaks of rain continuing in east monday. outbreaks of rain continuing in east anglia, brightening to the afternoon in east anglia, brightening to the afternoon. elsewhere, sunny skies will develop quite widely through the morning and then shower clouds will develop. some on the heavy side will develop. some on the heavy side. wintry in the scottish mountains and a bit more cloud to take away mountains and a bit more cloud to take away some of that sunshine in the north take away some of that sunshine in the north of take away some of that sunshine in the north of scotland. temperatures drop further into monday, a cool start drop further into monday, a cool start to drop further into monday, a cool start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower than start to the week, 5 or 6 degrees lower than normal thanks to the northerly lower than normal thanks to the northerly winds and that cool it feel certainly there on tuesday, as wett~ feel certainly there on tuesday, as well. bright start for many, there whitst well. bright start for many, there whilst it well. bright start for many, there whilst it will feel cool it is not will be whilst it will feel cool it is not will be particularly wet. many places will be particularly wet. many places will be dry. even in a northerly places will be dry. even in a northerly wind we will see some showers northerly wind we will see some showers develop, central and eastern areas showers develop, central and eastern areas most showers develop, central and eastern areas most prone. some of the heaviest areas most prone. some of the heaviest of those. look at those temperatures, ten to 16 or 17 degrees. temperatures, ten to 16 or 17 degrees. certainly doesn t look, or will feel. degrees. certainly doesn t look, or will feel, like early summer, that is how will feel, like early summer, that is how it will feel, like early summer, that is how it goes for the rest of the week is how it goes for the rest of the week. temperatures are fairly sinritar week. temperatures are fairly sinritar a week. temperatures are fairly similar. a few showers around at times similar. a few showers around at times but similar. a few showers around at times but equally a bit of sunshine. thank you. short changed the temperatures but at least a bit of sunshine. thank you. even though the temperatures may not feel like it we are not far off in july. with under a month to go until the general election it s been another busy week in politics with headlines domimated by party manifestos and d day commemorations. here to discuss what we can expect over the next week is aubrey allegretti, the chief political correspondent from the times and sonia sodha, a former labour advisor and observer columnist. good morning to you both. thank you forjoining us. aubrey, one key development in the past week is nigel farage and he was obviously part of the election debate, he will be on laura kuenssberg later this morning. the key question, how does he change the dynamic and the pressure on the conservative party? reform has been polling around 12% to 15% reform has been polling around 12% to 15% over reform has been polling around 12% to 15% over the last few months and i suppose to 15% over the last few months and i suppose there has been a question about i suppose there has been a question about whether or not that was the ceiling about whether or not that was the ceiling at about whether or not that was the ceiling at which they might reach. nigel ceiling at which they might reach. nigel farage has come 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marginal seats. the net effect of nigel farage will probably. effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of the - effect of nigel farage will probably be to boost the size of the labourl be to boost the size of the labour majority, be to boost the size of the labour majority, so be to boost the size of the labour majority, so att be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a very- be to boost the size of the labour majority, so all in all a very bad . majority, so all in all a very bad week majority, so all in all a very bad week for majority, so all in all a very bad week for the majority, so all in all a very bad week for the conservatives. - majority, so all in all a very bad week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear - week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear a - week for the conservatives. aubrey, one of the phrases we hear a lot, i one of the phrases we hear a lot, awful phrase, is cooked through. how much of the chat in the westminster bubble and all of this actually reaches people at home cut through. not least rishi sunak s absence from the latter part of the d day celebrations but also the election debate. how much do you think the debate that was broadcast on friday actually made a difference to voters minds? it is on friday actually made a difference to voters minds? to voters minds? it is a really interesting to voters minds? it is a really interesting question to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and - to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and to i to voters minds? it is a really interesting question and to be honest interesting question and to be honest both parties are asking themselves it because the poles have been stubbornly not moving the bolts been stubbornly not moving the bolts have been stubbornly not moving the polls have been not moving for 18 months polls have been not moving for 18 months since rishi sunak became prime months since rishi sunak became prime minster. during the heat of the election campaign, and certainly the election campaign, and certainly the conservative party were hoping they would have narrowed that breed. the thought that more people would like rishi the thought that more people would like rishi sunak s forensics style and people would buy into his claims but that and people would buy into his claims but that has not been borne out in the potting but that has not been borne out in the polling so we suspected probably take three or four days for the major take three or four days for the major news events, including things like rishi major news events, including things like rishi sunak singh the final part of like rishi sunak singh the final part of the d day commemorations and tv debates part of the d day commemorations and tv debates devoted to the public consciousness and for us to be able to measure. consciousness and for us to be able to measure, has there been an impact? to measure, has there been an impact? probably slightly too early to tell, impact? probably slightly too early to tell, but certainly aren t rishi sunak s to tell, but certainly aren t rishi sunak s actions there was a conservative mp who said this will realty conservative mp who said this will really stick in the point of people i really stick in the point of people i spoke really stick in the point of people i spoke to really stick in the point of people i spoke to. theresa may in 2017, commemorating victims of grenfell tower commemorating victims of grenfell tower fire, commemorating victims of grenfell tower fire, the queen stepped into the breach tower fire, the queen stepped into the breach and in this case it was rishi the breach and in this case it was rishi suhak the breach and in this case it was rishi sunak keir starmer meeting people rishi sunak keir starmer meeting people rishi sunak could have otherwise done on wednesday. this will be otherwise done on wednesday. this will be remembered as a really significant moment. the tv debate is interesting significant moment. the tv debate is interesting. mostly about whether we are irr interesting. mostly about whether we are in post interesting. mostly about whether we are in post tbh for these debates. i beobte are in post tbh for these debates. i people much more attuned to social media people much more attuned to social media and people much more attuned to social media and getting their news that way? media and getting their news that way? the media and getting their news that way? the political market is probably way? the political market is probably very grateful that the social probably very grateful that the social media clips are being picked up social media clips are being picked up but social media clips are being picked up but i social media clips are being picked up but i people getting tuned in and making up but i people getting tuned in and making up up but i people getting tuned in and making up their minds question at three making up their minds question at three weeks to go so i suspect most people three weeks to go so i suspect most people witt three weeks to go so i suspect most people will still be tuning in. picking people will still be tuning in. picking up on that point from aubrey , sonia sodha. , sonia a picking up on that point from aubrey , sonia a lot of the impact is through those very short meme clips for example that labour has been putting on tiktok, getting traction. some of the conservatives videos have had a significant number of views. in a week when the manifestos are launched, how much difference does the detail, the fine print that we get this week, make, given that attention spans are perhaps shorter than they were? attention spans are perhaps shorter than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is in - than they were? yeah, and i think it also depends a lot what is in the - also depends a lot what is in the manifestos also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and whether- also depends a lot what is in the manifestos and whether there i also depends a lot what is in the i manifestos and whether there are also depends a lot what is in the - manifestos and whether there are any surprises manifestos and whether there are any surprises i manifestos and whether there are any surprises idon t manifestos and whether there are any surprises. i don t think manifestos and whether there are any surprises. i don t think there - manifestos and whether there are any surprises. i don t think there are - surprises. i don t think there are going surprises. i don t think there are going to surprises. i don t think there are going to be surprises. i don t think there are going to be you surprises. i don t think there are going to be. you have surprises. idon t think there are going to be. you have both- surprises. i don t think there are . going to be. you have both parties trailing going to be. you have both parties trailing policies, going to be. you have both parties trailing policies, potential- trailing policies, potential policies trailing policies, potential policies that trailing 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manifesto to really it is quite unusual, i think, for a manifesto to really make - it is quite unusual, i think, for a i manifesto to really make someone think. manifesto to really make someone think. oh. manifesto to really make someone think. oh. i manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might vote manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might vote for- manifesto to really make someone think, oh, i might vote for this - think, oh, i might vote forthis party think, oh, i might vote forthis party now think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we saw think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we saw in - think, oh, i might vote forthis party now. we saw in 2019 - think, oh, i might vote for this l party now. we saw in 2019 there think, oh, i might vote for this - party now. we saw in 2019 there was a very party now. we saw in 2019 there was a very packed party now. we saw in 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because they want the electorate to look at the manifesto and because they want the electorate to look at the manifesto and say - look at the manifesto and say they re look at the manifesto and say they re are look at the manifesto and say they re are good look at the manifesto and say they re are good ideas - look at the manifesto and say they re are good ideas but - look at the manifesto and say. they re are good ideas but they look at the manifesto and say - they re are good ideas but they are incremental they re are good ideas but they are incremental and they re are good ideas but they are incremental and i they re are good ideas but they are incremental and i believe - they re are good ideas but they are incremental and i believe that - incremental and i believe that labour incremental and i believe that labour can incremental and i believe that labour can deliver incremental and i believe that labour can deliver them. - incremental and i believe that labour can deliver them. so. incremental and i believe that labour can deliver them. so i| incremental and i believe that - labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos will labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos will change - labour can deliver them. so i doubt the manifestos will change very - the manifestos will change very much the manifestos will change very much 0n the manifestos will change very much 0n the the manifestos will change very much. 0n the debates, - the manifestos will change very much. 0n the debates, i- the manifestos will change very much. 0n the debates, i think. the manifestos will change very - much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect an much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect an election much. 0n the debates, i think they can affect an election campaign - much. 0n the debates, i think theyj can affect an election campaign but very few can affect an election 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think when hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do make hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do make a hour or 90 minutes of tv. i think when they do make a difference i hour or 90 minutes of tv. i thinki when they do make a difference is when when they do make a difference is when there when they do make a difference is when there is when they do make a difference is when there is a when they do make a difference is when there is a big when they do make a difference is when there is a big news - when they do make a difference is when there is a big news story- when they do make a difference is when there is a big news story out of it and when there is a big news story out of it and i when there is a big news story out of it and i think when there is a big news story out of it and i think the when there is a big news story out of it and i think the one when there is a big news story out of it and i think the one thing - when there is a big news story out of it and i think the one thing that| of it and i think the one thing that people of it and i think the one thing that people will of it and i think the one thing that people will have of it and i think the one thing that people will have noticed - of it and i think the one thing that people will have noticed about. of it and i think the one thing thati people will have noticed about this last week people will have noticed about this last week of people will have noticed about this last week of debates people will have noticed about this last week of debates between - people will have noticed about this i last week of debates between leaders was the last week of debates between leaders was the row last week of debates between leaders was the row about last week of debates between leaders was the row about the last week of debates between leaders was the row about the £2000, - last week of debates between leaders was the row about the £2000, what l was the row about the £2000, what labour was the row about the £2000, what labour says was the row about the £2000, what labour says is was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a lie was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a lie about was the row about the £2000, what labour says is a lie about their- labour says is a lie about their spending labour says is a lie about their spending plans~ labour says is a lie about their spending plans. that- labour says is a lie about their spending plans. that was - labour says is a lie about theirj spending plans. that was what dominated spending plans. that was what dominated the spending plans. that was what dominated the news spending plans. that was whati dominated the news headlines. spending plans. that was what . dominated the news headlines. i think dominated the news headlines. i think it dominated the news headlines. i think it may dominated the news headlines. i think it may make dominated the news headlines. i think it may make a dominated the news headlines. i think it may make a difference . think it may make a difference through think it may make a difference through a think it may make a difference through a vehicle think it may make a difference through a vehicle like - think it may make a difference through a vehicle like that. - think it may make a difference through a vehicle like that. aubrey, lookin: through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead to through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead to the through a vehicle like that. aubrey, looking ahead to the manifestos . through a vehicle like that. aubrey, | looking ahead to the manifestos and the policies being set out, what do you think is going to be the issue that resonates most with voters, notwithstanding the points sonia made about perhaps the detail not reaching people. do you think cost of living, climate, immigration, what do you think are going to be the key point is that all parties. we have talked a lot about labour and the conservatives, but all parties, what do you think will be the standout one? the parties, what do you think will be the standout one? parties, what do you think will be the standout one? the cost of living and the economy the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still polls - the standout one? the cost of living and the economy still polls highestl and the economy still polls highest as a due and the economy still polls highest as a due container voters. labour manifesto, as a due container voters. labour manifesto, public services at the heart manifesto, public services at the heart of manifesto, public services at the heart of the office, 40,000 more gp appointments every week, and trying to boost appointments every week, and trying to boost the number of teachers in schools. to boost the number of teachers in schools. as to boost the number of teachers in schools, as well. obviously the backdrop schools, as well. obviously the backdrop to all of this is that there backdrop to all of this is that there is backdrop to all of this is that there is quite a difficult economic context there is quite a difficult economic context. so whichever party goes into government afterjuly the 5th is going into government afterjuly the 5th is going to have quite limited room for manoeuvre to be able to do things for manoeuvre to be able to do things they want to. the conservatives have been talking a lot about conservatives have been talking a lot about tax cuts about their next agenda, lot about tax cuts about their next agenda, and while we saw the cuts to national agenda, and while we saw the cuts to national insurance in the november budget national insurance in the november budget last year and again in march this year. budget last year and again in march this year. it budget last year and again in march this year, it was not quite clear that this year, it was not quite clear that that this year, it was not quite clear that that was resonating with voters that that was resonating with voters. they certainly have concerns about voters. they certainly have concerns about the voters. they certainly have concerns about the cost of living and the economy about the cost of living and the economy but i think they are looking to political economy but i think they are looking to political parties to be quite serious to political parties to be quite serious and tell them the truth about serious and tell them the truth about the serious and tell them the truth about the extent of the difficulties they will about the extent of the difficulties they will face if they come into office. they will face if they come into office, and what they can and cannot fix. office, and what they can and cannot fix~ if office, and what they can and cannot fix~ if they office, and what they can and cannot fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will take fix. if they cannot fix it, how long it will take to do that even if it is not it will take to do that even if it is not in it will take to do that even if it is not in a it will take to do that even if it is not in a single parliament. aubrey is not in a single parliament. aubrey allegretti, chief political correspondent at the times, and sonia sodha, a former labour adviser and observer columnist, thank you to you both. the pressure on public services is a key election issue and in an effort to understand the challenges they re under, we re going to be reporting on three key areas over the coming days education, courts and social care. this morning we re focusing on schools and their struggle to address a range of social issues beyond teaching. our social affairs correspondent michael buchanan has been to one primary school in telford where teachers are helping with potty training and basic communication.. which column do i start with? you add these for me. a simple maths lesson a familiar part of the school day for most pupils. fantastic. move onto the next one. but increasingly in classrooms are children who struggle to simply be in school. 50p! in early years, we have a number of children who struggle with basic communication, stringing a sentence together. please can i go to the toilet? , can i have a drink? they re sentences that we have to teach our children how to say. london academy is a small primary school in a relatively deprived area of telford. almost half the pupils are on free school meals. the lack of communication skills means the school has to teach makaton a basic form of sign language. but that s not all. we have intimate care plans for a number of our children. we change the children. we also try and teach them how to go to the toilet, as well so we try to do some of that potty training but we do have children still in nappies in our early years environment. eight were in nappies. louise says her last september, of the 27 children who joined london academy s reception class, eight were in nappies. louise says her son wasn t potty trained when he started school. he was quite late in everything, really! he wasn t ready, so. and then we felt when he was ready, then school helped with that. had you tried to get him toilet trained before he came to school? i had, yeah, and he there wasjust no interest at all from him to try that. the parents have nothing but praise for the school, but a chat with them reveals why schools increasingly struggle to focus solely on educating children. my oldest daughter, i ve just i ve pulled her out of school. i home educate my eldest one now. how old is she? 14. cos she was self harming, bullying, due to her mental health. right. but now she s at home, she does her work. she s happy, she s eating, she s sleeping. it s great. my wife has borderline personality disorder. all right, ok. so there s a lot of stress and emotional mental health. so that was affecting the children, their upbringing, the things that were going on. so we ve had help from the social services, help my wife get back to where she wants to be, but also guide the children into a better life. and that was through the school? through the school, yeah. london academy is part of a 13 school multi academy trust. its head says long standing challenges caused by tight budgets have been exacerbated by covid and cost of living pressures. coming out of the pandemic, children are quite often more anxious about large social situations because people were out of that for a while and at quite formative stages in their education and in their own personal development. i think, ultimately, when children are coming to school more hungry, that s probably having a bigger impact as an ongoing thing. i think we would have recovered quicker if it hadn t been for those issues. so this is our food hub. to help its families, the learning community trust has a food bank run by nikki morrison. i went out to do a visit myself. the children in the house were having weetabix with tap water. she leads the trust welfare team, who spend a lot of their time providing emotional and psychological support to hundreds of pupils. but nikki wonders what ll happen to them once they re older. a lot of support is in place for children through the school system, but when they leave school, that support starts to peter off. somebody s going to have to pick up that group of children when they leave school, and then try to put the support in then to enable them to be productive and functional members of society. the challenges in telford are, of course, nationwide how to help the many children who can t cope with school cope with life. michael buchanan, bbc news, telford. it is coming up to 833. sunday with laura kuenssberg is on bbc one at 9:00 this morning. let s find out what she has in store. the pace of the race for number 10 is getting quicker and quicker and quicker. after a terrible few days for the tories, we ll be asking this morning how they can turn things around or if they can. the man who s making so many conservatives nervous is nigel farage the leader of reform uk. he lljoin us live along with labour, conservative and snp politicians, and a fantastic panel to boot. so join me over on bbc one at 9:00. see you then. as the uk election campaign continue we want your help in how we cover it. the bbc has launched your voice, your vote so you can tell us the issues that matter to you. our reporter amanda parr has been to kingswood to speak to first time voters and hear their thoughts on the election.. thanks for having us. first time voters. so have you registered. you registered yet? not yet. but you know your deadline. yeah. yeah, ok, good. i have. you have? brownie points to you. so you wanted to talk to me today about mental health. why is this a burning issue for you all this election? so it s such a relevant topic to everyone it affects everyone and it really impacts young people in their school life, in life in general. so it s really important that it s, like, more covered. i feel like the lack of support, or i feel like as life goes and, like, families, and obviously there s, like, a lot of negative things happen in people s lives. a lot of it kind of builds up to, like, what happens in the future and it really impacts the social life whether they re doing, like, more knife crime orjust out more on the street. so there s not really enough support from the government and just education itself. lack of nhs funding with, like, mental health support. there s so many, like, really long waiting lists for mental health support, counselling, therapy. it s. it s got to change, you know? we want it. we really want it to change. i would sometimes link it to crime. and, you know, seeing as crime has become a really big issue in the recent years, i think there s a lot we could do to prevent it, rather than stop it - preventing it better than the cure. so i think that s something . we could focus on, especially putting counsellors in schools - and helping them identify students that could be vulnerable to, - you know, mental health conditions and even criminal environments. so what do you want to see from the politicians? what do you want to hear in terms of policies things that will make you vote for them? increase funding in schools to allow younger people to be able to find . other ways out instead of being, you know, picked up by gangs and violence. and really, like, say what they re going to change instead ofjust kind of.like, saying in a such a general way. i think being specific with it will really help people understand what they are voting for. you re obviously very switched on, and you re giving this election a lot of head space. how important do you think it is that young people do as you are doing? really important, i think. because, i mean, it s the future of our country and our lives. i mean, what s more important than that, right? and i think if we make our voices heard, we could make so much positive change to so many people. young people don t get, you know, the attention| of many of the policies in their manifestos. i and that means, you know, - we lose out in the end if we re not voting and we re not- making our voices heard. well, guys, it s great to meet you today. good to talk. and thank you for adding your voices to the debate. no problem. thank you. that report from amanda parr. you can find a full list of the candidates standing in the kingswood constituency on the bbc news website. and if you have a question for a politician or perhaps an issue that you re concerned about.(tx you can get in touch as part of your voice, your vote by scannig this qr code or go to bbc.co.uk/news on your phone, tablet or laptop. time now for us to get the sport and hewittjoins us. focusing on cricket. england against pakistan later and they only play each other in these global tournaments because of all of the issues that everyone watching will understand. thea;r of all of the issues that everyone watching will understand. they are -la in: in watching will understand. they are playing in new watching will understand. they are playing in new york. watching will understand. they are playing in new york. they ll- watching will understand. they are playing in new york. they ll be - playing in new york. they ll be 30,000 plus people watching there. scotland play in a manner later on and that is important to england who lost their big rivalry match last night to australia. it means that they are in some peril as they want to defend this trophy successfully because they might not even make the next stage because currently the start that england has had of two matches and no wins has put their chances of making that suit a stage in doubt. put into bat in barbados. david warner and travis head made a flying start 70 without loss in the 5th over australia reaching 201 for 7 from their 20 overs. in reply, england started strongly, captainjos buttler top scoring with 42 but they lost wickets at regular intervals and they ultimately fell well short of their target, losing by 36 runs. the situation we find ourselves in is the situation we find ourselves in. we ve got to be confident, keep our heads up, and look forward to the next one, and keep puffing our chest out and play some really good cricket which we know we re capable of. south africa remain top of their group after surviving a scare against the netherlands. chasing 104 to win, they were 12 for 4 at one stage. but they managed the run chase well an unbeaten 59 off 51 balls from david miller saw south africa win by four wickets. while overnight uganda were bowled out forjust 39 in their defeat to west indies. northampton s 10 year wait for a league title is over after the saints won a dramatic premiership final at twickenham. alex mitchell scored the winning try against bath. who were down to 14 men. with just seven minutes left as northampton claimed their second championship. and a perfect send off for the departing courtenay lawes after 17 years with the club. it s not really sunk in yet, i think, because we ve been so focused on this for so long. and then during the game i thought, let s just get the win whatever, however you can, kind of thing. and then you get there and you re like, oh. have we done it? do you know i mean? but, no, its class. can t really put it into words. and i think we deserved it i think over the season we ve been the best team, and sometimes you got to find a way to win. social media tells us that those goggles were there because of all of the champagne that was spraying in the champagne that was spraying in the dressing room post match. traditionally rugby league s big day of the year. the challenge cup final was a fitting occasion to pay tribute to rob burrow. and as the sport said goodbye to one of its legends. on the pitch wigan warriors beat warrington wolves at wembley to win the trophy for a 2ist time. after two first half tries captain liam farrell took wigan out of reach as he touched down to help seal an 18 8 win. matt peet s side now hold all four major honors in the league leaders shield, the super league title, the world club challenge. while they rejoint top of the current league table too. pretty surreal. we haven t really spoken about it, truthfully, until the beginning of this week. to hold all four trophies i think there s only a couple of other teams ever done it, so a very big achievement for ourselves. and, yeah, we re in a great place at the moment. look, the year s not over we ve got. there s a lot of rugby left in us, so. don t get me wrong, we ll celebrate this rightly, next couple of days, but then it ll be back to business after that. st helens made it four straight women s challenge cup final victories as they comfortably beat leeds rhinos. rob burrow s old side were looking for inspiration on the wembley stage but came up short. saints running in four tries without reply to lift the trophy once again as they beat the rhinos for the third final running i think the only thing better than doing it the first time is going to be doing it the second time. like that. that is an amazing leeds side to stop them from scoring with the pressure they had early on honestly, i couldn t be prouder. we said. we spoke about, we were doing it for each other. every time you couldn t think of taking on the ball and you re doing it for the person next to you. there s people out there that didn t win it last year, and they ve done it now and they re going to be champions. after a disappointing start to the french open for british singles players the tournament ended on a high with alfie hewett and gordon reid winning the men s wheelchair doubles title for a fifth successive year. another serial winner is iga swiatek. atjust 23 years of age she s a french open singles winner for the fourth time. the pole continued her recent dominance on the roland garros clay with a straight sets win against first time major finalist jasmine paolini of italy. it was swiatek s third title in a row in paris and a fifth grand slam triumph overall. it s the turn of the men this afternoon with carlos alcaraz taking on germany s alexander zverev. it s the first time either man has reached the final in paris. zverev is searching for his first grand slam title. whilst alcaraz is going for his third and hoping tojoin an illustrious list of spaniards to have won the title at roland garros. and i wanted you to put my name on that list of the spanish players who won this tournament. not only rafa but ferrero, moya, costa a lot of the spanish players that are legends from our sport won this tournament. and i really want you to put my name on that list, as well. i think in a grand semi final, there s obviously no easy matches and no easy opponents. and if you re. if you re in the final of roland garros, you deserve to be there. and that goes for him, as well he played a fantastic match today. you know, played a fantastic tournament in general, i think, and i m expecting a very difficult match. it s the final few days of pre euros friendies. and spain appear to be in good form. although it was northern ireland that bore the brunt of it. not immediately though. sunderland defender daniel ballard gave northern ireland a shock lead just 67 seconds after kick off in majorca. but things soon turned. as they conceded four goals in the first half and eventually lost 5 1. northern ireland should have an easier game against andorra on tuesday. spain face a far sterner test in their opening match of the euros against croatia on saturday. great britain have won their first medals at the european athletics championships in rome. with romell glave taking bronze in the 100 metres. (tx the race was won by olympic champion marceljacobs in a time of 10.02 seconds as he successfully defended his european sprint title on a golden night for hosts italy in rome. who won three medals. it s glaves first championship medal. george mills won silver in the men s 5000 meters, finishing behind norwegian star jakob ingebrigtsen. mills is the son of former england internationalfootballer danny mills and he s now got his sights set on the paris olympics next month. so i want to run the 15 and the five in paris, and hopefully tonight is my chances of selection. no harm. but, yeah, we ll see there s still a month out or three weeks out till trials, so straight back to training as of probably tonight and tomorrow, and then we get stuck in. primoz roglic looks like he s coming into form just in time for the tour de france. the slovenian. who s recovering from a serious crash during a race two months ago. won the hardest stage of the criterium du dauphine. it was his second stage win in two days. and he leads byjust over a minute going into today s final stage. dutch cyclist lorena viebers claimed victory on stage three of the women s tour of britain which started and finished in warrington. her team mate world champion lotte kopecky retained her 17 second lead over britain s anna henderson. and it looks like the mercedes formula one team could be challenging for race wins again after george russell claimed pole for this evening s canadian grand prix. the briton recorded a time of one minute and 12 seconds exactly on his first run in the final session of qualifying in montreal. championship leader max verstappen posted exactly the same time in his red bull. but because russell did it first he gets to start from the top spot forjust the second time in his career. it feels amazing, i mean, so much hard work back at the factory. so much hard work over all of these years, i ve sort of been zigzagging around and changing the philosophy and concept and over the last 26 months those zigzags have got a bit smaller and narrower. the upgrades we brought last week in monaco and a few more bits on the car this week, really have transformed the car and it is feeling great. and, so good to claim this poll. that race plus indeed the men s final is part of your radio listening for the day. thank you very much listening for the day. thank you very much for listening for the day. thank you very much for that, listening for the day. thank you very much for that, hugh. - listening for the day. thank you very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once a very much for that, hugh. time now 846 and they were once a common l 846 and they were once a common sight in our countryside and gardens but now the willow to it is said to be at the risk of extinction after numbers declined by as much as 90% over the last five decades. in response, a team of conservationists and volunteers across the north of england have hatched a plan to rescue the reclusive species, as our correspondent judy hobson explains. these tiny birds were once regular visitors to our gardens. but not any more. in greater manchester alone, there are nowjust120 breeding pairs after suffering a huge decline over the past five decades. so we ve got a lot of wetness here, water on this side and water on that side. damp, wet woodland is really what willow tits really like. now conservation volunteers in the north west are being asked to help rescue them. the project is called wet willow wildlife. so we re going to engage volunteers in surveying the willow tit populations across the north west. and once we ve understood that population, we re going to use that information to design habitat interventions. astley moss has been identified as an area which could be restored to help the willow tit population. we need rotten deadwood like this in a woodland for willow tits to excavate, whereas, for example, this living tree here is pretty hard. so a willow tit wouldn t be able to excavate that for its nest. these birds are elusive and hard to spot. we didn t see any here today but they do have a distinctive call. willow tit beeps. willow tits are often in places really close to people s houses like in bolton and in trafford. you ve got willow tits right in these scruffy pockets of woodland right behind people s houses and people just. they re an elusive bird so people don t know that they re there. this is a lowland rain bog site. but on the edges of it, we ve got this kind of woodland habitat. volunteers are working with the wildlife trust with funding from the government species survival fund. they ll work with landowners to increase the willow tits habitat, benefiting a host of other creatures into the bargain. it s quite often a habitat that s overlooked by people or undervalued. it s a bit scruffy looking, it s untidy, it s a bit wet and boggy, and it s a bit unloved. there are a number of factors for the willow tit to climb. quite possibly climate change is playing a part. some of the wetter habitats potentially might be drying up in the longer, hotter summers. it s a bird that doesn t move that far and we need to create these pockets of habitats, sort of stepping stones in a way across the landscape so that willow tits can move around and connect up. the wet willow wildlife project aims to boost the willow tit s chance of survival and halt the alarming decline in this once common bird. what we want to do is to make sure there s always a home for the willow tit in the west. it s a really iconic species and it really needs our help. judy hobson, bbc news. we did see some warm layers of clothing there because even though it is june we clothing there because even though it isjune we have not been able to put the jackets away just yet because it does not feel like summer! when do those bird watchers get some slightly night said temperatures matt! i ve been looking at the chart and there is not quite decided yet on the horizon. we will get there. things will get a little cooler over the next few days, can you believe it? just put it into context, the temperatures at this stage injune should be somewhere between 16 and 20 degrees but as we go through into the start of next week, they are going to be about four or 5 degrees below what we expect this time of year. when you have got the absence of any sunshine, so important for adding strength and warmth into the atmosphere, it will feel even chillier than that. we ve got it all to blame with its area of low pressure, as it slowly meanders across the north atlantic and into scandinavia. as a more northerly wind develops. a weather system today which is going to take away some of the morning sunshine some of you have already been enjoying. the best of the sunshine across the central and southern areas but even here it will cloud over. north and central belt of scotland some sunny spells and a scattering of showers but that cloudier zone are particularly across the north of england, north midlands, north wales, patchy drizzle, south west scotland to bet northern ireland the patchy drizzle replaced by the end of the afternoon. temperatures similar to yesterday but when the sun is gone it will feel cool. rain this evening in northern ireland but tonight some wetter weather spread eastwards across england and wales were some heavy bursts at times especially across north england and north midlands. and especially towards east anglia. it will clear up towards east anglia. it will clear up later on and will be a chilly night and temperatures in rural areas will get down to two or three degrees. northerly winds developing bitter cold and wet star developing to that week. rain lasting longer in east anglia but away from that, sunshine during the morning, some clouds building into the afternoon and some areas will stay dry. but it will feel chilly in that northerly breeze. whatever your plans for the weekend, enjoy! thanks very much, matt, see you. it s been incredible to see the outpouring of emotions and tributes for rugby league legend rob burrow who died of mnd at the age of 41 last week. it is hard to believe he is gone and if you have not seen it already do watch the documentary on iplayer at the moment. inspired by rob, a doctor diagnosed with motor neurone disease himself is taking on an epic challenge to raise money and awareness of the condition. our reporter katharine da costa met up with luke hames brown during his training. initially, my symptoms started in my legs. it s progressed to my arms, my hands, my shoulders. luke hames brown s already seeing the slow decline in his muscles, making it difficult to walk. he was only diagnosed with motor neurone disease in april last year. it s a fairly rare condition it s not something you see a lot of in general practice.but certainly very aware of what that diagnosis meant. pretty devastating to hear that. certainly took some time to process that news, and what it meant for us and ourfamilies. having been an active snowboarder, surfer and walker, luke s used to challenging himself. but at 35, he s decided to leave his career as a gp to spend the time he has left with his wife and family. some of those numbers are very scary in people dying within two, three years of the diagnosis. the thing that we can try and do is pack in as much as we can in the next couple of years and hoping that it is slow and it continues to be slow and we have years rather than months. thank you. the couple is preparing to walk the length of hadrian s wall covering around ten miles a day over eight days. this isn t about having to do it in the fastest possible time, it s about showing that i can still do these things i enjoy, and about hopefully helping other people to realise that, with adaptations, you can keep doing them. i can tell it will be really hard for him mentally and physically. so, as a team, i know that we ll get through it together probably with lots of sweets and chocolate and tea breaks. they re raising money for the charity my name s doddie foundation, set up by the former scottish and british rugby legend doddie weir, who died from mnd in 2022. they re also donating funds to the mnd association of which rob burrow was the patron. the rugby league star and his wife lindsey had agreed to meet with luke to offer support and advice before rob passed away. the way that he approached his diagnosis, and in being so open and candid about it in the public eye. ..has raised enormous awareness, which is so needed. and on a personal level, was inspirational to me. luke and kate will celebrate their second wedding anniversary while they re away making memories and raising money for research into a cure along the way. katherine da costa, bbc news, in oxford. we wish him well with that challenge. a young lego fan has designed a spaceship which lit up the new york city skyline. ten year old lotty was one of six winners across the world who won a competition to design a spacecraft which was recreated by drones. corinne wheatley has more. mysterious lights over the new york skyline. not from outer space but definitely inspired by it. in fact, one of these designs came from somewhere much closer to home a dining room table in kippax, west yorkshire. we had to break them ones to rebuild, but with what you ve got on the table. you had to make a lego creation i would want to go to space in. you had to, in turn, tell it why you d want to go in your creation. my design was a bed with butterfly wings, and fire coming out of the back, and then a snack drawer underneath it. both: five, four, three, two, one. lego mad lottie won a trip to see her design lit up by drones helping her dreams of space travel come alive. there s loads of planets that no one s been to, and i would want to go discover some of the planets and see if there s life in any of them. not a lot of, like, girls have gone to space or been anywhere on the moon. and then it s always boys who go. er. you re doing it for the girls, aren t you? yeah. so how to build, then you can rebuild. when she s drawn on the piece of paper and it s gone from the paper to a real life thing flown in the sky it was just amazing. like you say, there was no words, you had to just stand in awe and look at it. she strives to do whatever she wants. but, yeah, it s just nice to see that she does want to go and push, don t you? follow your dreams. definitely. around 20,000 bikers have completed a mammoth ride from london to cumbria in memory of the tv chef dave myers, who died of cancer in february. the procession made its way to dave s home town of barrow after setting off from a famous biker hang out, the ace cafe in north west london. our correspondent sharon barbour joined them on the journey. cheering. it s a big night in barrow a celebration of the life of dave myers. tens of thousands have arrived many of them hairy bikers. they re riding all the way up the m6. there was thousands of people on every bridge. it s unbelievable. as we were coming in through the towns and villages leading into barrow, just streets were lined and it was just amazing. the roar of tens of thousands of motorbikes heard across england today began to arrive late afternoon. the procession at times was 16 miles long, and the route was lined by supporters. leading the cavalcade that left london this morning was dave s best friend and fellow hairy biker remarkable reception! just mind blowing. all of the all the over bridges, all the way from london to barrow in furness people waving and showing kindness and courtesy and oh! unbelievable! the tv chef died in february, after he was diagnosed with cancer. he was 66. sharon barbour, bbc news, cumbria. are perfect tribute. that s all from us this morning, but breakfast will be back tomorrow from six. enjoy the rest of your day. goodbye! who is on their way to number ten? the prime minister s had a dreadfulfew days after his d day blunder. but the tories are still trying to torture labour with their disputed claims about tax. the power of the smaller parties has been centre stage. more antics on the trail, and full on farage making conservatives nervous. in the latest of our leader interviews, he joins us from essex. stephen flynn, the leader of the snp in westminster, joins us from aberdeen. and with all of us in the studio, mel stride, close ally of rishi sunak, the work and pensions secretary. and shabana mahmood, who d be thejustice secretary if labour moves into number ten. welcome to you both, a rough week for you guys. welcome to you both, a rough week for you guys- for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to for you guys. we ve got time, there are four weeks to go for you guys. we ve got time, there are 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all russian and soviet dictators, their problem is they always think that they re the last line of defense. you are in power. you have the right to, if you decide, to destroy it so nobody else will get it. the united states doesn t even notice that the soviets are on edge. they didn t even put the soviet reaction into ronald reagan s presidential daily brief. [indistinct radio chatter] [narrator] before andropov can act, the able archer operation wraps up on schedule. [pilot] roger that. [narrator] andropov is finally persuaded that this really was just an exercise. this time. [tim] the united states didn t know to ratchet down the tension when it really mattered. that is an indicator of just the lack of understanding that the united states and the soviet union had of each other. but in a nuclear confrontation, lack of understanding can have catastrophic consequences when adversaries have nuclear weapons pointed at each other and don t understand each other. every day in every state across the country, our political system is bankrolled by an army of fund-raisers, pulling in millions of dollars a race. sometimes it looks like you might imagine knocking on doors, calling every name in the phone book, and emails so many emails. but for all those little fish throwing $100 to their local race, it s the whales those campaign fund-raisers really need powerful, rich individuals and companies. and when they donate $25,000, $100,000, a million dollars, they want a favor.or 10. it should be obvious that s corrupt, but with a wink and a nod, political deals toe the bribery line every single day. and we may never have noticed that if a certain illinois governor hadn t flung back the curtain with an unrepentant ego, a political corruption crime spree, and a set of unprecedented audio recordings that shined a bright light on the inner workings of american political power. ladies and gentlemen, meet rod blagojevich. it was early morning, cause i used to get up every morning and turn on the 6:00 news, and, you know, like, you re kinda waking up, and then you re like, well, wait, what? [helicopter whirring] oh, sh , they outside of blagojevich s house! they got cameras, they got cars, and then they march him out. and you re like, that s our governor, joe. breaking news the illinois governor, rod blagojevich, charged with plotting to sell barack obama s former senate seat. tapper: remember this guy? he sure hopes you do. governor rod blagojevich went down in a blaze of infamy for one of the largest political corruption scandals of our time. the governor was allegedly trying to sell the illinois senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. in fact, part of the governor s sales pitch was that the seat still had that new obama smell. [audience laughter] appointing someone to the senate is a rare opportunity when the will of the people is swapped wholesale for a gubernatorial power trip. blagojevich had the sole authority to place whomever he wanted straight into the halls of the u.s. senate, and he was not shy about wanting a little something in return. with the fbi recording his phone calls, for the first time since nixon, the public was able to listen in on raw backroom politics, and there s nothing quite like hearing it from the horse s mouth. reporter: the criminal complaint quotes blagojevich as saying the senate seat was a valuable thing. you just don t give it away for nothing. another quote i ve got this thing, and it s bleeping golden. [blagojevich speaking] i ve got this thing, and it s [bleep] golden. -yeah. -[audience laughter] and i m not just giving it up for [bleep] nothing. [laughter] was there a second [bleep] in there? tapper: racking up a staggering 24 criminal charges, governor blagojevich s actions essentially boiled down to four things extortion, bribery, corruption, and wire fraud. and it wasn t just about the senate seat. blagojevich was also found guilty of extorting a children s hospital. you can t write this stuff. he s an arrogant punk who thinks that, you know, he s bulletproof. well, he s not. he was convicted on 18 total charges and sentenced to 14 years, the longest sentence ever handed down to a governor. people loathed blagojevich for the way he politicked, but was what he did so blatantly criminal? cause the truth is that the line between what s illegal and what s allowable is much murkier than we d like to think, and this is where the rod blagojevich story gets interesting. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing. [camera shutter clicks] was rod a corrupt politician or just a politician operating in a corrupt system that still thrives to this day? so, governor, thanks for doing this. thank you. so you ve been out of prison now for almost two years. a little over two years. and you re still very outspoken about how you feel like the case against you was unjust. there isn t really an argument about what you said. -right. -it s on tape. right. the question is whether it was illegal and whether it was morally wrong. look, if you re saying, do we have a fund-raising system in america that you can arguing is legalized bribery? i think there s truth to that. but did i do anything other than that standard that every other person in politics does, from president biden on down? i did the same as them and nothing worse. there is this real problem in american politics today where prosecutors are weaponizing themselves, criminalizing routine illegal practices in government politics, and i think it s wrong when they do it to bill clinton. it s wrong, i think, when they did it to president trump cause i have strong views on that, and i know it was wrong when they did it to me. okay, lot to unpack there. let s talk about the chicago and illinois system, because you re hardly the first governor in history, even in recent history, to to go to prison. what s the situation here that causes this to happen? well, i think it s time-honored here, and there s a long history in chicago politics, illinois politics, where pretty much everybody gets rich. ah, chicago politics. it s like going to a pay pond when you go fishing. like, if you are a prosecutor, you cannot be in illinois and not get something. illinois is steeped in a rich history of political corruption that dates back a century to the prohibition era, when bootlegging gangsters such as al capone bought off politicians and police departments, keeping them drunk on power and.also just drunk. in rod s lifetime, illinois has developed a rap sheet that any mobster would be proud of more than 1,700 convictions for corruption, including nearly 30 chicago aldermen, eight stage legislators, two u.s. congressmen, and before rod came onto the scene, three governors. in an odd way, the very people who should hate the idea of corruption are kind of proud that this is al capone s illinois. chicago is a wink and a nod town. -it s a shot and a beer town. -[clink] lot of it has to do with family relationships, because a lot of the political leadership in chicago and illinois are family-related. there s the daley family, the madigans. all of these families sort of become part of this mafia. -yeah. -a political mafia, and they re the ones who make the rules. i didn t come from that. i had to marry into it. i met a girl on the 6th of march, 1988. she was wearing a red dress, and she happened to be the daughter of an old-fashioned chicago political war boss. and she s my wife patti. we fell in love. patti blagojevich is a loyal wife, she is a tough customer, and she s the daughter of dick mell. she s complicated. that budding relationship between those two is how rod goes from this nobody politically, finding a way to kind of imbed himself into one of these big political families in chicago. they have so much power. i don t think it was, you know, some great surprise that, like, you know, when it comes time to meet the parents, that dick mell was the father-in-law and the the powerful city council chieftain. we re gonna try to work together to put this great city back together so that we re all part of it and we all feel free. dick mell was a guy who always had the voice in the backrooms. he was a power broker in that kind of chicago classic sense. before politics, it was a nice relationship, but for the most part, respectful. and then because i was in the family, and i was actually pretty good at helping her dad, local politics, knocking on doors and trying to get him votes, there was an opportunity to run for office. in rod blagojevich, mell could see a guy that eventually, if he does it right, i could sort of pass the mantle toward. rod was an immediate hit with illinois voters, who sent him first to the state house in 1992 and then to the u.s. congress in 1996. dick mell says, i can see you being governor. and i gotta be honest, i m sure if i m looking at it from dick mell s position, he s saying, man, if i can elect this guy governor, i can run the whole state. reporter: the campaign for illinois governor has gotten pretty lively. you ve got chicago congressman rod blagojevich. what s that name again? -bala-jo-vich. -reporter: bala-jo-vich, huh? -bala-jo-vich. -you sure? positive. tapper: during rod s 2002 governor s campaign, dick mell s membership in the old school chicago elite was a definite bonus, but it was rod s working class bonafides and people skills that did all the rest. coming from the family he did, he had a real working class chip on his shoulder, and his two heroes were elvis and richard nixon, both because they were guys who came from the wrong side of their tracks and fought their way up and were kind of disdained by the elites. in fact, if those two gritty 20th century icons fought their way into a single person, you might actually end up with rod blagojevich, for better and for worse. the rod blagojevich that i first met was youthful. he was energetic. he had this kind of mane of black hair that was super thick, and you could tell it was filled with hair product. the hair so iconic in its own right, that it became a comedy staple on every late night show. -the hair. -the hair. really, it looks like you re wearing a toupée that s also wearing a toupée. [audience laughter] he had a huge infatuation with elvis presley. his charisma was disarming. [cheers and applause] [amplified voice] thank you. thank you very much. [cheers, whistles, and applause] but the elvis of illinois was itching to lose his colonel parker, because despite the many benefits of dick mell s patronage, rod was still in his shadow. you know, he really became known as dick mell s son-in-law first. and i know he hated that. he didn t know how to both be his own man and not let dick mell foreshadow him. the only way for rod to survive outside of his father-in-law s machine was to create his own cash flow. so his first step was to hire two of chicago s most bare-knuckled political fund-raisers, chris kelly and tony rezko. chris kelly and tony rezko could generate big bucks. they were fund-raisers. they were donors. you know, let s just call em what they were. they were influence peddlers. they wound up being able to shake the bushes here and help rod raise money. they promised access and favors if blagojevich won, and they got results. where dick mell s good old boys would fetch $2,000 at a time, kelly and rezko would shake loose 50 grand. all that money plus rod s appeal to voters who had felt ignored by the entrenched chicago political dynasties well, it proved to be an unstoppable combination. he ran on some things that were uniquely important to black people. healthcare for kids is a good idea. when he said, free rides for seniors on public transportation, that resonated with black people specifically. blagojevich became governor in 2003. -congratulations, governor. -thank you. may god bless you. [cheers and applause] how do you view your your time as governor apart from the scandals? how do i say this in a way where i don t sound like a guy without any humility? but i truly believe i was a great governor. i can t think of any governor in my life that did anything for anybody i knew that can walk around and say, you know what? thank you, governor. my daughter had healthcare through you. free public transportation for seniors and the disabled? i did that cause they raised the sales tax, which hurts working people and poor people and seniors. with the legislature raising taxes that hit lower-income illinoisans hardest, and rod striking back with policies to offset that, it s no surprise that his populist agenda made him a lot of enemies amongst the big political families. to the people and the masses, he was on our team, and to the aristocracy and to the political elites, he was this guy that was taking their resources and giving em to the peasants, and so he became robin hood. i knew the reality that i m gonna have resistance from the old guard, the old ward bosses, the madigans, daley to some extent, my father-in-law, and so the goal was raise money now and raise a lot of it so that you can afford to make enemies, and you can afford to lose support. right, but some of these people that you were that you were relying on like chris kelly were were corrupt. -right? -turned out that chris had problems in his own personal business, and he was found guilty of those things. had nothing to do with me. but, like, a lot of the people in the world of fund-raising are not necessarily. -they are not. -.upstanding individuals. -no, they re not. -yeah. -no, they re not. what s the saying? ignorance is not a defense ? tony rezco and chris kelly they started compiling this list of different entities that were state contractors, and they hit all those people up for money, probably with rod s assistance. hey, you got a contract? you wanna keep it? or you want to get more? you gotta pony up. a lot of people in play have scalpel-like tendencies when they fund-raise, and rod was probably more of a meat cleaver. [beeping] -[telephone rings] -kelly and rezco were using government levers to squeeze anyone they could for a campaign contribution kickbacks like a cushy job or a fat contract, a little light extortion such as holding up teachers funds. they had deep pockets to fill and a financial machine to do it. you can t trade official actions as a governor in exchange for campaign contributions or jobs. i mean, there is one simple word for that. it s called graft. graft is simply the use of political power and authority in exchange for personal gain. to state the obvious, appointing unqualified people to state positions because you wanna use the government as a vending machine for your political campaign that s completely illegal. the m.o. was to make money from every state petitioner possible, and small-town hospital ceo pam davis looked like just another easy mark. but in this case, the whole shakedown process is recorded by the hospital executive who was getting shaken down. [laughs] woman: he needs to reset your wire. [laughs] oh, god, another wire. sorry for, uh. -i don t care. -just in here. uh, the governor really wasn t on my radar, um, at all until i experienced an extortion attempt through one of his, um, colleagues. pam s hospital system wanted to build a new facility in plainfield, illinois. seems pretty straightforward, but there were red flags right away when she went to get government approval for the project. davis: in my case, the governor had appointed individuals to this board who had either contributed money to his campaign, so they bought their way on, or individuals that were controlled by the governor and other individuals and would approve only those projects where a kickback was going to be given. turns out the board was willing to approve the hospital. all she had to do was use builders and lenders who were in their pocket and pad the contract so the board could take. let s call it a transaction fee for their trouble. it became clear to me that this was a major extortion attempt, and i was furious. so i called the fbi. the feds set her up with a wire so they could listen in on her meetings with board members and get the dirt straight from the source. she d be meeting with these players, and they would be basically laying out the whole scheme to her. davis: the contract would be padded, um, by roughly $10 million so that that money would go then to the various players. at one point, i decided, i wonder if this goes up to the governor, because the governor appoints these individuals to the various boards. the feds were wondering the same thing, and over the course of their investigation, their suspicions proved to be spot on. out of the public eye, rod s fund-raising goons, chris kelly and tony rezko, felt safe to strong-arm money from donors across illinois. but unbeknownst to them, the fbi was following their every move as part of a far-reaching corruption investigation into the blagojevich administration. as the money rolled in, their role in rod s administration only grew, which had his father-in-law, dick mell, feeling as though he d been served divorce papers. as dick mell famously said, he got replaced by a trophy wife or trophy wives. those were the people who were getting the love that he should have gotten and wasn t getting. we all know that you got here because of dick mell. rod says, i got my own team, and so don t talk to dick mell. not only does he not do what you wanna do, but he said, don t talk to my boss. i m the boss now. well, dick mell ain t feeling that, and dick mell is not the type to be like, so, may i talk to you privately? mell wears his heart on his sleeve, his anger on his sleeve. .leave me out! he can love you today, and if he starts hating you tomorrow, he can, you know, pull the switch just like that. and mell becomes more and more resentful of being cast aside, and so that fueled this tension in that family to the point where it eventually exploded. [explosion] that explosion came in 2005, and though it may not have aired on reality tv, it was still inextricably linked to garbage. rod blagojevich closed down this landfill which dick mell was a part owner of. rod said that this was for environmental issues. tapper: what did he want you to do? leave it alone, and i had learned that it was operating in violation of the environmental laws. i had knowledge of that. uh, ultimately, i decided i had a duty, that i had to shut it down, and then he made some accusations that really unleashed the furies. dick mell called a press conference and basically accused rod blagojevich of selling board and commission seats within state government. reporter: mell has had a falling out with his son-in-law, the governor. this is a family at war. so your father-in-law, dick mell, accused chris kelly of selling political favors for campaign contributions of $25,000 to $50,000 at a time. tell me about where were you when you heard that he was leveling this accusation. i remember vividly. it was early january of 2005, and this was the consequence of me shutting down his landfill. the very next day, he called a press conference, and he was clever enough to accuse chris kelly, not directly me, but that s me. i don t think he envisioned that it would turn into something that would ultimately land me in prison, but i know he did this to hurt me politically and cause me problems with the fbi. tapper: mel s allegations backed rod into a corner, giving the fbi room to prosecute his inner circle, until in 2008, the feds secured a secret wiretap on the governor himself. feeling the squeeze, rod started looking for some kind of escape route, and then a golden opportunity landed right in his lap. at this defining moment, change has come to america. [cheers and applause] now that senator barack obama is president-elect barack obama, someone will have to take over his senate seat. this is the governor s decision. uh, it is not my decision. the criteria that i would have for my successor would be the same criteria that i d have if i were a voter. senator obama becomes president obama. he resigns his senate seat. according to the law here in illinois, you as the governor get to name his replacement. now you re excited about this, and you say on tape, i d like to get the [bleep] out of here, and you re talking about options for yourself. does that mean, i d like to get the [bleep] out of here, you were sick of being governor? that s absolutely the things i was saying, of course, and i was looking at all kinds of options. so he attempted to trade obama s seat for a golden parachute. he begins to be heavily courted by all sorts of people who would love to be that u.s. senator. they saw something really valuable here a very valuable bargaining chip that could elevate his power in some way or or benefit them monetarily. when i said i wanted to get the eff out of here, it s because the fbi people and my persecutors were all over me, and it s the sort of thing, when that stuff s swirling around you, you know that stuff s swirling around you. -right. -and it s there. it s everywhere, and it and it was just very clear to me that they were determined to get me no matter what. i guess one question i have is knowing that they were looking at you, why did you talk about this stuff that way? look, i had 2,896 days in prison to ask myself a thousand questions, including that. but you know what? what s the alternative? i have all my staff and lawyers. we all go to saunas and get naked and talk to each other so nobody s got wires on em? -no, or -what s the alternative? or you just don t say anything, or you just say, like, this seat is very important, and we wanna make sure the best person gets it. and separately, i am thinking that i d like to not be governor of illinois anymore. well said. i don t make a habit of telling politicians how to avoid jail time, but here s the thing. being more cautious could have gotten rod everything he wanted and kept him out of prison, but caution is not really in rod s dna. [blagojevich speaking] [line disconnects] jackson: you know they taping you, so you can t say that out loud, right? breaking news the illinois governor charged with plotting to sell barack obama s former senate seat. reporter: illinois rod blagojevich was arrested tuesday morning by federal authorities and charged with corruption. dude. dude! dude. you know they trying to get you, dawg. but why? why? reporter: the day after being arrested on corruption charges, illinois governor rod blagojevich walked out of his house and headed back to work. -[camera shutter clicks] -tapper: all in all, rod blagojevich was facing 24 charges connected to four specific events the attempted sale of obama s senate seat, withholding legislation that would benefit a children s hospital and racetrack in an attempt to get political contributions, and the attempted extortion of a highway contractor. [amplified voice, chanting] 2, 3, 4, blago must go! i personally think he should at least step aside if not resign. my husband is an honest man, and i know that he s innocent. jackson: he thought that he had the moral high ground. i don t believe there s any cloud that hangs over me. -man: governor, governor -well, getting back to that, can we discuss your i think there s nothing but sunshine hanging over me. he didn t show any of the humility or anything. you just can t stick your finger in the eye of the federal government. let me reassert to all of you once more that i am not guilty of any criminal wrongdoing, that i m confident that at the end of the day, i will be, uh, properly, uh, exonerated. [reporters speaking at once] i represented rod blagojevich in two of his criminal trials. i mean, he wanted to fight his case. he believed he was innocent, and he was working to that end to try and prove his innocence. anyone who believes that this was a selling of some senate seat doesn t understand politics. every single day in politics, that is what happens, is this horse-trading. and if you really listen to this in context, what you heard was talking with various people, getting annoyed, talking about nonsense, and then the end. nothing really that was ever acted on. later, rod blagojevich s lawyers would argue that what rod did specifically with the senate seat was no worse than when president eisenhower appointed earl warren as chief justice of the supreme court. back in 1952, dwight eisenhower s about to win the nomination to become the republican president. earl warren, the governor of california, is withholding the delegation s votes. governor warren tells eisenhower, i ll deliver the delegation for you on one condition. i wanna be the next chief justice of the supreme court. ike, the great war hero, shakes hands, says, you got a deal. he wins. one year later, earl warren is the chief justice of the united states supreme court. rod wanted a political appointment from obama, and for that, he was prepared to trade obama s old senate seat, which is actually legal. otherwise, eisenhower would have gone to jail, and americans would not have liked ike. do you see yourself as somebody who was just trying to function in perhaps an inherently corrupt but legal system, and that theoretically almost any politician could be snagged the way you were? absolutely. of course i do, except i m giving me higher marks. because i was using that money that that and that power gave me to fight an established system that served itself on the backs of the people, and when you do that, you piss a lot of people off, and they wanna get rid of you. but do you think that you re earthier about it? like, more outspoken about it? well, i wasn t hiding any of it, but these because it s legal, and that s how you govern. abraham lincoln was able to get the 13th amendment passed at congress, which ratified the emancipation proclamation, freeing slaves. he had to make political deals with members of congress to get the votes to pass it. -that s how you get things done. -you re not comparing yourself to abraham lincoln. -by no means. -okay. -and please say that. i m not comparing myself to abraham lincoln. you re not or the emancipation proclamation. okay, right. he s a lot taller than me, and i never did anything as great as that, of course not. -but you re also not talking about the i mean, the emancipation proclamation of course i m not. governor blagojevich tried to sell the appointment to the senate seat vacated by president-elect obama. the conduct would make lincoln roll over in his grave. you re very critical of pat fitzgerald. yeah, he s an evil guy. he s a wicked guy. he s a scoundrel, and he deserves to get an ass kicking. you know? and he s a big coward. anyway, go ahead. sorry. well, i think he would take issue with everything you just said. you know, he has a reputation for being the choirboy, for being, you know, an upstanding, moral person. he sees himself as, i am trying to uphold some basic standards for our politicians. that s how he views it. governor blagojevich has been arrested in the middle of what we can only describe as a political corruption crime spree. we had a political and public narrative that we had to overcome, and when the entire potential jury pool believes that your client is guilty before they ve even heard the evidence, you re going into the trial like if it s a basketball game, you re losing 100 to nothing. or it s like if you re a governor, and you re getting impeached 114 to 1, and the lone vote in rod s favor his sister-in-law, deb mell. done from office and eager to prove he was not a crook, rod knew exactly where to plead his case. please welcome to the program governor rod blagojevich! [applause] you are a charming dude with the best set of hair i ve ever [bleep] seen. [audience laughter] so i want this to be real. got some challenges ahead, but, uh, i m gonna trust in the truth and as it says in the bible, the truth shall set you free. rod blagojevich just.kept.talking. how are you? you wanna get on tv? come on in. i think he was able to warm himself a little bit with the public. better to be seen as a klutz than a crook. sure, everyone loves a good laugh, but oversaturating the talk show circuit may have had unintended consequences, as david letterman told rod when he appeared on the late show in 2009. the more you talked and the more you repeated your innocence, the more i said to myself, oh, this guy s guilty. [laughter] so during the period from your impeachment to your trial and your sentencing, you did a lot of media appearances. what was the strategy behind that? my feeling was like, look, i didn t do any of that stuff, and what does somebody do who s being lied about? but you have a tremendous desire to get out at the highest mountain and yell out, i didn t do it. well, letterman said that the louder you yelled it, the more it made him think you were guilty. yeah. yeah, i mean, i didn t i didn t convince him, but, uh, i think i convinced donald trump. that s why i got invited on celebrity apprentice, right? i have great respect for your tenacity, for the fact that you just don t give up. but, rod.you re fired. what i saw over the course of rod s career was a guy who started off as kind of a charming rogue and a guy who really did give voice to concerns that people had to someone who became almost a parody of himself. and by the time that trial came around, he really was his own worst enemy. see you in court. he thought that the court of public opinion could save him, but he had disturbed forces that decided, it was a wrap for you, dude. don t poke the feds, fam. just don t do it. man: blago, can i get your autograph? reporter: at verdict today, in a notorious case that federal prosecutors did not want to hear, rod blagojevich was convicted today on only one count. -see you guys! -man: way to go, baby! tapper: the jury was hung on all but one of the charges against blagojevich, and without unanimous consent, the result was a mistrial on the remaining 23 charges. the jury, like a lot of people to this day, just could not agree on whether what he d done was actually illegal. in that first trial, the jury deadlocked on everything except for lying to the fbi. -right. you were convicted of lying to the fbi. -right. -do you acknowledge that you lied to the fbi? -no. no. i don t. i ll tell you about that. it was about how much of your associates that were fund-raising for you, the degree to which you knew what you were doing. yeah, it was the issue was i said, i didn t, as a practice, track fund-raising. and who got contracts? i didn t. i didn t look into who got contracts. i wasn t interested in that. i had 27,000 contributors. i wasn t tracking who gave me money, who got what. the first trial was too confusing for the jury, and they had a lot of paper documents. it was a lot of witness testimony. man: governor, are you anxious for this to begin? i feel great. absolutely. what the government did in the second trial is they pared down their their case, and they believed that everything was in the tapes and they needed to make this trial a lot simpler. [blagojevich speaking] he was swearing a lot. .and upset and not appreciative of the position that he had. and i think that was more influential in the jury s decision than than anything. it made him look bad. breaking news right now the jury has reached a decision, convicting blagojevich on 17 counts of corruption. -reporter: wire fraud. -bribery. blitzer: attempted extortion. solicitation of a bribe. blitzer: racketeering. conspiracy to commit bribery and conspiracy to commit extortion. rod blagojevich was convicted on almost all counts and sentenced to 14 years. patti and i are obviously very disappointed, uh, in the outcome. i, frankly, am am stunned. when did you realize, oh, shit, i might actually be going to prison ? -from the beginning. -really? -i knew i was a dead man. -really? -yeah. -why? cause they have so much power and resources, and i, you know, wasn t really surprised when i got 14 years. the justification for the judge was, you treated this like a golden glove boxing match, but those corrupt liars are lucky dueling is outlawed, cause i d have challenged them to a duel. rapists and murderers get so much less time? that s why this system is so wrong and so broken. let me offer you an alternate theory. sure. my alternate theory is that the entire system of justice that we have in this country depends on prosecutors and police who are incentivized to get convictions. -mm-hmm. -period. what do you think of that? well, i think you re almost right. [laughs] i never took a penny. no one says i did. i keep saying that cause that s so important to me. i don t want people to think that i was some one of these corrupt politicians that was taking cash. tapper: but remember, even though he never actually got that envelope full of money, that was because the feds closed in before the senate deal was done. the offers being considered, campaign contributions or a lucrative job in a nonprofit, the fact of accepting them that would have been simply illegal, hence, the charge of conspiracy to commit bribery, which he was definitely guilty of. rod s argument is no cash changed hands, but prior to that, there had been plenty of money changing hands. there s ample evidence these government positions, these government contracts they were effectively for sale. it does not matter if rod blagojevich actually won the argument and got the money or the donations he was seeking. it s the ask. if something goofs it up, but the burglary or robbery s interrupted, it doesn t make it less of an intended burglary or robbery, right? he had his day in court. that 14 years was what the system gave him. so you went to prison for almost eight years? 2,896 days. and let me tell ya what gets you through prison when you have to face something like that. it s love and it s faith love for my daughters and my wife. you know, when i was arrested, within days, the vegas oddsmakers had it 9 to 1 that she was leaving. so in that sense, i ve been so lucky and blessed. after he was sent to prison, patti proclaimed his innocence, and she did try and go to any leader that she could find to have him either pardoned or commuted. and when all else failed, patti blagojevich knew exactly who to appeal to next. after rod goes to prison, patti was essential in keeping their life together. more than anything else, maybe, she got in donald trump s ear. trump had a connection with blagojevich cause rod was on the apprentice, and patti blagojevich was on fox news every day. you know, we know that president trump is a kind man, and he s compassionate. he s always been kind to my family. and when you speak on fox news, you have a direct connection with donald trump. today the president sprung from prison former illinois governor rod blagojevich, who was convicted after attempting his own quid pro quo. yes, uh, we have commuted the sentence of rod. i watched his wife on television. quote, um, i watched his wife on television. -yes. -end quote. how did how did that happen? i think he just saw he he would tell me he liked the fact that i was fighting back. i remember him saying something like, uh, you know, i have friends that go through what you re going through, and they re in a corner. they can t even move, and you re out there throwing punches. i think he liked that. i m so grateful to him. sometimes things happen in life where god intervenes in the most unbelievable ways. trump, blagojevich, fox news? i m not sure how much god played a role in any of this. when rod came home from prison after eight years, his daughters had grown up. how are your relationships with them? they re good. i m i m getting to know them. our family was broken for a long time. the difficulties that i talked about with my father-in-law, those were heartbreaking, because in spite of everything, i love him, and he s been good to me in so many ways. and, uh, you know, it s been a tough road for my wife. our lives could have been so much simpler, so much better. understandably, rod looks back on the time away from his family with regret, not for what he did, of course, but that he was sent to prison in the first place. but what else would you expect from rod? i am a political prisoner. i was put in prison for practicing politics. wait a minute. you re a political prisoner? nelson mandela was a political prisoner. political prisoners have no due process. i was thrown in prison and spent nearly eight years in prison for practicing politics, for seeking campaign contributions without a quid pro quo. you do have an obligation to at least admit what you did wrong, and you refuse to do that, and you re creating a whole new alternate universe of facts, and that may be big in politics today, but it s still, frankly, just bullshit. a reporter, uh, asked you if you wanted to say sorry to the people of illinois, and you said, sorry for what? -do you still feel that way? -very much so. i ve done a lot wrong. criminal? none. you and your defenders argue that the persecution, prosecution of you is about the criminalization of politics. in other words, there is horse-trading that goes on in politics. you do me this favor. i ll do you this favor, and that s all you were doing, and that it s legal, but they made it out to be illegal. well, first of all, it s not illegal. now you can argue whether we should improve our laws. that s a valid thing. i would think there s a lot of room to improve the fund-raising laws, but that s not illegal at all, and it s a common practice. now ultimately, after i ve been in prison for four years, the appellate court reverses that big lie of the sale of the senate seat, and they said it s routine political logrolling. and look, that s partially true. the court did vacate the conviction related to obama s senate seat, but they never said he did nothing wrong. the court said there was a jury instruction issue, and they upheld the remaining 13 counts. so contrary to his claim, he has not been exonerated. and for the love of elvis, we can only hope that rod s crimes are not routine. if there is a big lie, it s that he s a victim, especially since every other charge was upheld, including the extortion of a children s hospital. gandhi, he ain t. this isn t some sort of mystery, that, gosh, i didn t know. i had no idea. it s so gray. really? i think most of us have some gut sense of when we re beginning to get in trouble. i don t believe blagojevich has ever done any reflection on right and wrong. extorting a hospital never occurred to him that that might harm the citizens that he was elected to protect. he he has no ability to look at anything but himself. that s it. that s it. what s the worst thing that can be said about you that s accurate in your view, other than you were stupid to say that stuff? sure. look, i ve been accused of being a narcissist. i might plead to a misdemeanor on that, okay? um, i think i my judgment of some people was way off. i think i should have been a lot more vigilant and see some of the warning signs. i knew they were aggressively out there raising money, and i didn t slow it down because i wanted to raise the campaign money. i could have been more vigilant on that in retrospect. close, but no cigar. whether or not rod trusted the wrong people, he set them loose on illinois because they brought him the most money. whether the rules on political fund-raising are flimsy guardrails at best,

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will: senator tim scott on what this means inching closer to november 6789 pete: rookie wnba sensation caitlyn clark snubbed from the olympic team. the bizarre reason why straight ahead. third hour of fox & friends weekend starts right now. pete: rhode island. nice and great. that s great. i imagine in three hours, four hours that beach will be pretty packed. pete: i went to the beach yesterday for many hours yesterday. will: what d you do? pete: mostly sat there and enjoyed with friends. made sand castles and buried my kids. they buried me in the sand. typical stuff swim out to the bank. this was kids go play and then little interaction. very nice day. rachel: very nice. pete: not too much because i had to get up and do the morning show. jen and the kids were there. you successly execute it had. rachel: you got your breakfast. will: they re on a team and they they re on a team and. pete: i finished the order and went into her app. rachel: you did. will: thousands of anti-israel protesters are gathering outside of the white house and furious with the response of oturu ongoing hamas war. rachel: the demonstration as president biden wraps up trip overseas. pete: madeleine rivera joining us now with the details. reporter: hey, guys, the area outside of the white house cleaned up by the time president biden returns and the pro palestinian protesters return and they re going to have these for their demand to send them to israel and thousands travel to the country and the nation s capitol to showcase their furry and andrew jackson with paint and making red hand prints and red line in rafah and crossed by heading into the city and as the protest unfolded overseas in israel, there was joy and they reunited with their families and israeli forces rescued them in a daring operation and we won t stop working till all the hostages are home and a ceasefire is reached. that s essential for happening. reporter:red biden administration is recontinuing to work for the remains hostages through negotiation and antony blinken is heading back to the middle east tomorrow. pete: look who s here with us this morning. shannon bream. i teleported in. good to see you guys. there s so much blow back from progressives in the left and the rights saying it s not too late and we don t like what you re doing and it s cruel and unusual and you wouldn t do that and getting this split of support within his party and israel and hamas with things that are polling out this week and going for every state and we polled and double digit advantage with president trump and people thinking he would be better on that issue so the white house is scrambling. will: acknowledging who sits on the jury. does he need to testify? we ve all talked about, president trump s trial here in manhattan, it s a jury pool that s 85% voted for president biden is we think last time around and those are numbers he s working with and delaware, it s different. that s biden country and they have generations there and they re well known there and a report one juror was crying during the testimony and one jury you need one to hang and not get a conviction. i don t know if i m the defense, i d lean against putting hunter on the stand. there s so many avenues that can open and that why president trump and his team wanted to testify and i think they knew for them it would be difficult and once you put them on the stand, they can go a lot of different places you might not want to talk about. same thing with hunter. rachel: she went through a lot of effort to get there. whether i started reading her travel plans, i thought i m not reading in right. this cannot possibly be. she got it done and i got to think she wants him to feel the support. pete: timing wise on monday for the trial and do you think it wraps up by the end of the week and rachel: one more case, the elderly pro life activist and she s like 75 years old and this is a very violent place to live and where are they the priority for the doj and the city? it s tough for the doj because we remember there were attacks doj is pursuing those people and assigning jail time for people demonstrating and live stream it had and knew what they were doing and it was against the law and i would imagine most of the fo folks and one pled guilty they re willing to know what they walked into and doj not a great optic and equally aggressive going for other folks on the side. rachel: only p 4 and another one in the 60s that got solitary confinement for 22 days, which violates the nelson mandela act that says you can t keep it for more than 15 days and these are very severe unusual punishments and coming to us from new york. will: what can we expect on fox & friends ? rachel: short list and rising and he ll tell us about that and talk over foreign policy and big part of the resume. he s got hesitation and the drain on the resources is real and talk about that . the trump rally that i know you talked ahead of that and that was the district and how does he feel? rachel: here in the south bronx. pete: i have seen all the promos on fox nation and going for fox nation. it s like a dream come true. should have made him wear a mullet wig for the show. janice actively kill it had. pete: proper fox news sunday host and fire cracker break dancing during every commercial break. will: and i m comfortable saying this, they smoked us, pete and rachel. i mean, brian and shannon and dagen embarrassed us. it was a lot of fun. rachel: i can t stop looking at you. tamara who did my makeup. hair and make up was the best and there s a lot of purpose and will blue eye shadow doing this and we ve got to embrace it. our outfits. rachel: i want to do this. i told tom i want to do the 80s thing. pete: anyone else on television that has the range to go from 80s game show to fox news sunday? the range? rachel: there s no one on television who looks more like olivia newton john. the most massive compliment i can give you. let s get physical. rachel: i love you. you are awesome. incredible. pete: check it out on fox nation, the quiz show. looks like a lot of fun. thank you very much. rachel: thanks, shannon. pete: turning to a few additional headlines starting with this, a landslide taking out a massive chunk of road at t town pass in wyoming cutting off a critical lake between eastern idaho and jackson, wisconsin. officials don t know how long it ll take to repair the road and say the closest possible route going more than 60 miles out of the way. hope that i m able to represent you again very soon. it s held in honor of king charles iii s birthday. will: assuming that s soccer style? we didn t show it yet. pete: it s coming up. come on. come on. will: i saw something he slides on his knees soccer style. pete: was that the preview or broadcast? will: throwing me off. pete: on air or not on air? we re not working with pros here. will: most talked about basketball player period, not women s but on l planet. caitlyn clark left off the women s olympic basketball team. christineen writing in the usa today. two sources long time basketball veteran withs decades of experience in the women s game told me friday that is concerned how clark s millions of fans would react to what likely would be limited playing time on the factor of decision making and if true, that s an extraordinary mission of real attention with the old guard of women s basketball for this multimillion dollar sensation. pete: wanting fans and larger contracts and even talking about it for years and then suddenly a sensation, fan favorite shows up and you don t say it s front and center synergy home your vote lifting and all of our votes lifting and you ve got serious animosity or serious reasons for not wanting to elevate that person. rachel: we had dan on earlier from outkick and what he had to say. they had a great opportunity and i don t care about luka or jaylen brown or nb ark finals and there s no basketball player that s a bigger draw right now in the world. i would argue in the world then caitlyn clark. what a missed opportunity. they could have had more eyeballs on women s basketball, which would have equated to going back to your season and fixing up even stronger now it s the same old same old and no one is going to pay attention and that s a missed opportunity and a really dumb missed opportunity. will: it makes with raise reporter: risen above ambition. there s no reason. they re cutting their nose off despite their face. rachel: i just i m trying to understand it all and i think what women of color in sports wanted was more diversity and seems like she s a diverse member inside of this, you know, cohort of female basketball players. rachel: break it down for me. will: i think a lot of women are christian and she s an outlier from race to sexuality and style of play even. she s an out lier. but outlier but it s all garnered her a lot of attention. ratings follow, money followings ratings, and now you ve seen jealousy i think. i don t think it s limited to the superficial factors of race or sexuality. at some point it s jealousy. pete: yeah, it is unfortunate for all the levels you played out and it s not uncommon in sports and like a new player comes in to a league and isaiah thomas famously got this treatment from jordan and magic and others that said hey, new kid, you re a little above and we ll knock you down a peg and tough fouls she faced and there s that dynamic but this feels like more than that. and the question is how long does it persist and to miss such a big opportunity like this for the country saying, wow, i want to watch the women s team at the olympics. rachel: she s good enough to be on the olympic s team. pete: according to to people that follow the wnba the answer is yes, i just don t no. rachel: so much for the sister hood. i thought that s what it was supposed to be about but guess not. a shocking new report reveals the dire impact of biden s energy agenda 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oil discovered off the coast of guyana and why empower iran when we have liquid gold right under our feet? i wish hi a good answer to that question. when i give speeches around the country about what biden has done the way he s kind of recked our economy and people ask me is this intentional and trying to hurt america. the higher world oil prices and we re not producing it here at home and makes no sense. rachel: no, you could only be doing this if you re trying to hurt america or in the case of john kerry in charge of that iran policy and at one point he was a hobbyist for iran and you have to wonder what s the thinking here? and the people who suffer of course are the poorest, are the working class, and we re really glad you re doing these kinds of studies and it s important to put it out there and remind people of the way it was, the way it is, and how it can be if we change leadership and energy policies. if trump is reelected president, we ll be producing every sin l barrel we can and a great job here at home and hurting our enemies. what s wrong with that? rachel: yeah, what s wrong with that? steven moore, thanks so much for joining us. thank you, rachel. rachel: biden s border order taking effect this week but is it doing anything? pete and will go off the wall to break it down, next. lord, you know what s on our hearts. you know where we struggle. you know where we need to be pushed. help us give it all to you. the good, the bad. help us turn to you in everything. amen. you should join me in more prayer on hallow. stay prayed up. rise up this morning, smiled with the rising sun saying, this is my message to you-ou-ou singing, don t worry about a thing ( ) discover our newest resort, sandals st. vincent and the grenadines now open. visit sandals.com or call 1-800-sandals oh, why leaffilter? it s well designed, efficient, i appreciate that. leaffilter s technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good, guaranteed. what more could you ask for? call 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a year because it s riddled with loopholes. will: that s right. that 1500 number does not apply to the following types of people that may try to come in illegally, visa holders, unaccompanied children, victims of severe form of trafficking, those that use cbp1 app. pete: this is what they ve been touting the entire time, go to the app to be more orderly and that could be thousands and thousands a day through the cbp1 app through ports of industry. people running across not through ports of illegal entry. this new policy is going to address it but it s not going to. will: the executive order by owe biden going to receive criticism include tag of former president trump. they did undo all of your policies with the stroke of a pen. now finally yesterday, he implemented a new policy and however it s nearly 2 million illegals a year. millions o f people are allowed to come in and meanly a joke and everyone knows it and it s got nothing to do with border security pete: the accusation is it has to do with a date in november where he s seriously underwater on this issue and wants to make it look like something is being done. the other reason why, will, he didn t want the television cameras down this. he doesn t want the heat and we ve got a lot of reporterrers down there covering it, one of which is bill melugin. will: take a look at illegal immigrant encounters since it s gone into place and putting in place executive order on wednesday 5600 daily encounters and on thursday 4,000 daily. that s two days over the threshold. pete: correct. that means we would need five more days of numbers over 2500 at which the rolling average would then kick in the 14 days where there s a restriction on asylum seekers and under 1500 for 14 days, then it can go back to these numbers until it goes back underneath 2500 for seven more days. will: not changing the numbers from before the new executive order. this week on the will cain show, which is live at noon across the state fox news u tube and fox news facebook and hang out live and we re watching it on spotify or apple or youtube by subscribing and we ll have pete hegseth on wednesday for off the rails and leading contender for vice presidency doug burgum. pete: your boy. coming on the will cain show check it out every day monday through thursday at 12, noon, eastern time. former president trump earning green in the golden state with a string of sold out fundraisers. will: vp contender tim scott on what it means to inch closer to the convention. inching closer to the convention. he s next. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it s a great product. it s going to help a lot of patients. i m gonna hold you forever. i ll be there. you don t. you don t have to worry. we love being outside, but the sun makes our deck and patio too hot to enjoy. thanks to our new sunsetter 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minority voters and he joins us now. snout torr, welcome. hi, rachel. how are you? rachel: there s been some really interesting positive news for the trump-appointed campaign. tell us where things are at and how you plan to help the president leading up to the convention. well, let me be clear, donald trump is going to be a juggernaut and it s the most remarkable fundraising in history of politics and question immediate to make sure we have donald trump for four more years and have him back on the world stage and one thing we have without question is working with joe biden on the world stage and best thing he can do is going for the vises yule stage ask stay off of it d visual stage and stay off and we need donald trump back on the stage and going from 2017 and we need a sharp president or the united states protecting the western allies and doing the right thing for the merri bowl people and that person is donald trump and it s time for us to fire joe bind. those resources will be very helpful. pete: senator, the left has thrown everything at him including what happened in a trial here in new york city, and they ve counted on it effectively being their campaign strategy and at every step it has backfired. why does it keep backfiring and why do they keep trying? they keep trying because they have nothing else to do but try to keep donald trump off the campaign trail and you know for sure the results of those efforts have backfired and his numbers go up in the polls and he becomes the biggest fundraising draw in american history and politically and it brings to focus the american people and protecting law and justice is job one from president trump and he will not target his political opponent and he ll fire merrick garland and restore confidence in the department of justice. they are out of answers for the american people so all they can do now is lie, cheat and steal. will: the vetting process including senator marco rubio of florida, senator jd vance of ohio, dug burgum, former governor of north dakota and tom cotton and elise stefanik and we sat down with the former president and asked him what are you looks arkansas looking for in a vice presidential candidate? my estimation he gave us three criteria: someone he gets along with. you seem to satisfy that. somebody that selfishly can help him win and historically isn t the case when it comes to vice president and that would be nice. and most importantly he said somebody that could be president. do you think he s satisfied that second and third requirement helped him win and could be president? well, there s no question that i think we have an amazing talented republican party and a great bench. without question having run businesses and having spent ten years in the senate in the house and understanding how this government works and what we need to make sure we do is have people who are ready to take this to the mat. president trump doesn t need any help. what he needs is amplifying his voice. when we do that, we re doing the right thing to make sure that american people have four more years of low unemployment, low enfellation, high enthusiasm and frankly enthusiasm and world peace and put shoulder to the grindstone and make sure the american people and the world experiences four more years of donald trump. listen, when donald trump was president, we didn t have war in ukraine, we did not have conflict in the middle east. we certainly did not have aggression from china, period. we had the strongest economy we ve ever seen in my lifetime. the person people deserve four more years and we have to restore confidence in our justice system. only one person does that. it s not a vp contender and not who the vp will be. it s what we do to make sure president trump gets four more years. rachel: senator, one of the things that the president also mentioned was somebody who aligned with him. obviously on many, many issues you do and you talked about world peace and that s an issue i really care about and i m really scared. i have young sons who are l of draftable age should we go in some sort of conflict. it s very personal to me and talked about the war in ukraine and that might not have happened and donald trump said that wouldn t have happened if he were president instead of joe biden is we are in a war with ukraine. should we take off the table and end that conflict. we need to make sure we have the end of conflict before nato takes on ukraine and the resources we ve seen has come to ukraine frankly because of donald trump. what donald trump said to speaker johnson was simply this, let s make it alone. don t give them the money. don t loan them the money and because of that, you saw the republican coalition rally around the wars of president donald trump and support mike johnson s efforts. what we ve seen in israel is in the middle east is something very clear. with president trump, we had the abraham accords and bringing together arab nations and support back 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we re talking about cashbackin. not a game! we re talking about cashbacking. we re talking about. we re not talking about practice? no. cashbacking. word. we re talking about cashbacking. cashbacking. cashbacking. cashback like a pro with chase freedom unlimited. how do you cashback? american democracy after the hardest of things. it to believe that you are part of something bigger than yourself. we have never had a significant anniversary of d- day where democracy and western democracy felt as under threat and as fraught as it does this year. both in europe and at home. what do you make of donald trump s threats to jail his political opponents? i will talk you in about three years from now. you have to take donald trump at his word. i think there is nothing that will stop him from doing such things. the jury in hunter biden s trial was just dismissed for the weekend after emotional testimony from hunter s daughter. will wait to see whether hunter biden will testify in his own defense on monday. will you accept the jury outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? yes. and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? yes. i just went to a riggs trial in new york. s first public campaign stops and says guilty convictions. if we don t win this country is finished. i really believe that, i think it is finished. i simply refuse to believe that america s greatness is a thing of the past. good evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle. we are now 151 days away from the election, and the contrast between the two presidential candidates could not be any clearer. this week president biden took action to close the border, and then traveled to france for the 80th anniversary of d-day where he stressed u.s. support for our allies. at donald trump, on the other hand, rallied against his guilty verdict, the judicial system, and then threatened to seek revenge with any possible person who has slighted him. let s bring in our nightcap and discuss all this. my friend, steve liesman is here. lizz winstead, cocreator of the daily show. she is also the cocreator. pablo torre, host of the public toray podcast. and to ray, host on thegrio. we look at this week you have president biden talking about freedom and the fight against tyranny, both 80 years ago and today, and then you have donald trump talking about how revenge is justified. liz, talk to us about where these two campaigns are and where they appear to be headed? tyranny of the past and tyranny of the present is basically what we are talking about. where are they heading? sometimes i honestly look at these two things and i think will the selection simply come down to will trump have more disillusioned people that won t show up or will biden have more dissolution people that won t show up? and that scares me. because i feel like for those of us doing the work, in the streets every day defending people s freedoms, if trump wins again, what we are facing is no dissent. and with no dissent we cannot challenge any of it. but, if he wins again there is no surprises about who donald trump is. in 2016 you can make the argument. people don t realize who he is. remember, he had all these people like no, no, you don t realize what you are in for. america knows exactly what they re in for. you say no. you know, there seems to be a lot of delusion. we hear a lot about the trump era was great, the trump administration was great. as if coven just did not happen. as if there was some reason why those last two years just don t count against his record. i don t remember covid but i definitely remember infrastructure week. infrastructure week was every week. i feel like trump is the most selfish person in the world, and everything revolves around me personally. every political issue comes back to me, myself. this woman asked him, this reporter asked him, katie from alabama wants to know what is your relationship with god? and he said i do very well with the evangelicals. that is not the question you were asked! and biden, to me, seems very outward. he is thinking about others. how can i help other people? think about the key moment of his life, losing a major chunk of his family in one horrific moment, as a relatively young man. who learned empathy, and to think about others and the importance of family. and this other person, who every bad characteristic we don t want our children to have, he has. i think what you said, you know, what is the question being asked and what are we trying to answer as instructed to what the biden campaign, i believe, should be trying to do? framing this even beyond needing to pay attention to the newsday today. more choice between extremism and not. i just wonder why we are not generally describing trump more as an extremist. forget about, again, let s not forget about the issues, people on the ground doing good work. when it comes to what are we expecting out of this, do you want someone who feels like they are attacking every institution, who is, again, do we need to recite the litany of felons and felonies? let s just talk about not being that. okay, but here is possibly why i think this is playing out. because, though they shouldn t be, president biden is focusing voters on democracy and on freedom. and these are fundamentally important things, but somehow they get viewed as kind of lofty ideals, and trump goes straight to the gut and grievance. because people don t know what it is like not to have it. i lived in russia for six years. they didn t understand democracy. they didn t know what it was like to not be, sort of the possibility of randomly being arrested and otherwise having appeal. but can i just go back to the beginning of the show? did all that stuff in this montage happened just this week? and there is 151 days, which means 21 weeks if my math is right. i m wondering if i have the stamina to make it through this, if this is just one week s worth of stuff. i really think this is going to be rather a dramatic, caustic, and i think biden is going to have to really bring home what is the absence of democracy, which is a very tough thing, whereas trump has only to say look, we can do all these things, everything can be great, and full of wall is not a sinitic and thing people think about. trump is a great salesman for his diseased ideas. biden has not yet shown himself to be a great salesman of his ideals, of what he has done. and there is a very significant and real and honest critique of biden from the left. that he has not done enough on what is going on in gaza. and there are a lot of people who would be democrats otherwise who will not support him because of that. i hear you. what s the conversation to have with that voter about what former president trump will do with the situation in gaza? was it not nikki haley a few weeks ago, when she went over there and said it is the job? you know, what lizz said about the margins is important. don t think about the potential, the imaginary hypothetical biden trump voter. i don t think that person really exist. there are a couple, but not many. there is a lot. know, the election is going to be about can trump get people who will say it is either trump or stay home? and can biden get people who say it is either biden or i stay home? the election is going to be won on those margins. and biden does have this significant issue, that a lot of people. there is agoing around on it tiktok . i don t know if using it. tiktok, home of misinformation central. we can talk about tiktok later. but they asked with man, gun to your head, would you vote for biden or trump? and he said the gun would go off . it is a meme that has been shared by people who are saying i will not go with any of them. this is my point about extremism or not. biden should also be as popular as the field broadly. do you want trump or anybody else? we are at a point where trump is not just specifically dystopian in the ways that we may remember or not, based on our experience during the pandemic. he is also just clearly against the will of all is the concept. so i think the question of democracy is how do you make this a tangible, scarier thing? because currently i think talking about democracy as a concept is a little pie-in-the- sky. the thing about democracy dying in darkness did not really work as a slogan for the washington post. it this week, with the remembrance of d-day, it was not just the stark contrast between president biden and donald trump. it was also between donald trump and ronald reagan. ronald reagan gave one of the most important speeches of his presidency in normandy. he stood against russian aggression, he stood with his nato allies. so isn t there question to ask of all republican voters, where has your party gone? because the current gop and what donald trump represents bears almost no resemblance to ronald reagan. correct. it is why you saw joe biden looking almost like reagan and referencing him while he was in france this week. i mean, i am just not going to go down that path, because i am somebody who doesn t have friends who are alive because of ronald reagan. so when i think about waxing back to the people who laid the foundations for this evolution, trump did not come to us in a vacuum. trump came to us because people laid foundations for hatred and bigotry and sexism. and i feel like i don t want to go back to the party that i could recognize of ronald reagan. but what i do want to say is people that we are leaving out of this conversation are the voters. i am constantly saying to people the election is not the end game. it is the starting game. you get the democracy you want and you get the democracy you participate in. and who do you want to fight? that is my whole thing. who do you want to fight? do you want to fight a madman? or do you want to fight somebody who might listen to you where you can get the needle move? because these other people. i do not think the election is going to be won by biden if he is taking democracy his issue. i think it has to be the economy. all of our polling shows people are most concerned about inflation, most concerned about jobs, most concerned about the economy. democracy should be like the sprinkles you get with the ice cream cone, if the ice cancun is the economy. but without a functioning democracy you can throw your economy out the window. that the economy is always the number one issue. finish your thought. i was just going to say that if he does not win it on the record that he is running on which is a strong one. which is a pretty strong one , and a vision of the future, i don t think he wins it by saying i am the democracy guy and that guy isn t. we are talking two different languages as far as the folks who may vote for biden and the folks who may vote for trump. i mean, this is not about issues at all. this is about personality. this is about who you believe. and the people on the right, like joy reed talks about earth one and earth two. the people on the right live on earth two. and we can sit here and believe the nothing that you believe is factual. we can go on and on. january 6, climate change, the election, the trial. but they are affirmed in their miss belief constantly, and they think we don t know what is reality. this is why i feel like the whole felonies thing should and hopefully does cut through to a silent majority, not to evoke reaganism s, but a silent majority of people who are like i am in earth one resident that i am just not that proud of it. it is, for me, a bridge too far, when we have a convicted felon surrounded by felons being again in the white house. i feel like i just want to simplify it down to do you want the felony guy or anyone else? that is a great question. donald trump wanted more than his face, wouldn t he be doing everything possible to court the nikki haley voter? he disrespected nikki haley in every possible way and still she endorsed him. if she actually wanted to win, it wouldn t he say she is my running mate, let s go for the gold? he hasn t, instead it is president biden who is putting together a coalition to try to go to for those voters and risking losing progressive voters in the mix. i wonder when we say nikki haley voter, i would wonder if they were not so psyched about nikki haley, or if they were just like i don t want trump. i am not like everything about nikki haley is just awesome. people weren t saying that. i feel like him going for that voter after he saw emma we saw the numbers after iowa. was it 28% of those people who said if nikki haley is not the nominee i could possibly vote for biden? i think when trump doesn t go out and try to expand his base he never has. but let me finish. why is even doing that? that should be the sign to everybody, he is not trying to expand past due. he is not looking at a world for you. can i do some reporting here with lizz ? i might be messing up the order of your show here. but when roe was first overturned we saw abortion rise up to the top of issues. since then we have seen it fall down. and i know the democrats are making a big deal of the abortion issue. do you think it is something that motivates voters? i don t think it is going to be democracy, and i am wondering if it is going to be abortion as something that trumps the economy, for lack of a better term, and becomes a real motivating issue. well, i am the right person to ask. no, no, only because you might not know this, i am on the ground all the time talking to people. and this is where democrats are actually making a mistake. i do think abortion, abortion polls better than politicians. in these ballot initiatives we are seeing in over a dozen states were initiated by the people, not by politicians. by the people. people who held their abortion stories to themselves for years, saw this as a time, and this isn t a couple people. you have to get 200, 500 in florida, 900,000 validated signatures to get it on the ballot. the question is will people vote for biden and the initiative, what we saw in kansas, the very first one, that people voted overwhelmingly for their abortion initiative and still voted for some of the people who created the laws in the first place. what? so, what we should carefully be looking at is these initiatives, i think, are going to greatly help down ballot. they are going to help senate races and places that will be surprising. congressional races. and will people say i am going to vote for everybody but biden? that is the question somebody needs to answer. we can do that in the next poll. we can ask about that. please do. the president took pretty aggressive action on immigration this week. it has been a vulnerability for him. republicans are going to say it is too little too late. how do you think it is going to play out? and just to be clear, republicans have done nothing on immigration, and thanks to donald trump, blotch doing anything legislative. this is how the republican party has shifted the overton window in their direction. we talked about the border, and about immigration. immigration is not a central issue in american life. it is not the source of crime, it is not changing the economy. republicans have made it this central issue. and people believe it. whether it actually is an issue in daily life are not is somewhat irrelevant, because republicans have been successful in convincing the american people. that s what i m saying, they have made us think about it when it is not as important as they wanted to be. i think this is the frustration for anybody who is not trump, joe biden specifically. your running election campaign, and administration based on it, i think, a practical execution of hopefully reasonable and increasingly moderated policies, and donald trump is running on vibes. it is a vibes based campaign. and the question, fundamentally, returns to turnout. vibes is too polite award for a period anger, resentment, ancient nightmares awake into the bloodstream of people who feel like they re being threatened by non-threats. i m sorry, i have a different view on this. i want to see the person advising biden on the politics of immigration fired. i think he has been behind the curve on this. he has let the republicans take this to a place where it shouldn t go. from a narrative perspective, but not a policy perspective. what have they done on the policy front? from a narrative perspective, if he is doing what he is doing now, why couldn t he have done that months ago? okay, fine. but hold on. you can argue with when he did it, but now he is doing it. now he is doing it. what have republicans done? nothing. they have objected to a deal that was apparently done that was agreed to, but the second thing i wanted say they want to continue to set this up as a problem. the second thing i want to say is there are some issues where you want to take on the lack of facts and the misdirection had on. this issue of immigration, i think, should be one that should be approached with much more sympathy for the people who are afraid and scared, and i think rather than head on white, which people? the immigrants? the people in montana who are worried about people crossing the border in xcode. you don t make it to montana. never make it to montana. so we should worry about what people in montana and west virginia should think about it? we already do. this is what is motivating them. and i think there is a way to address this in a way that is more understanding and less in- your-face. more understanding of what white people in montana think? exactly. here s why, because they vote. i don t think steve is saying because they are white. hold on a second. i don t think it steve is saying that person in montana is right. i think what he is saying is they vote. at the very least you have to acknowledge who that person is, where they are, and speak to them. the issue has already coddled them immensely by wrapping them in this notion of the demonization, i mean, so many americans would think of immigration and think of somebody getting murdered by an immigrant. but that is not the core of our relationship with immigrants in this country. and the right has made it that. yes, but the most important word that you said right there is made. because they made it that. because they solidified this falsehood, you have to at least address it and try to start solving for them. and you understand how people are scared? but who is scared? white people? white people. but we are continuing to be asks to be sensitive to the fears of white people? that are not real fears. it does not matter if they are real fears. they vote. i guess it is my question. genuine human empathy is being considered anybody s peers. i think we are trying to do empathy but also cold calculus about getting their votes. we are trying to disabuse them of the lies and ways that damages them in terms of their sense of security and sense of self. but before we get back in, i just want to ask what does it take to coddle the abstract montana and that is afraid that someone in mexico is coming over to take their job? there is a community i know in wyoming. they had no people from south america. all of a sudden they had 12 people. this was a huge change for them, and everybody, all of a sudden they had to teach esl. great, and guess what? that town in montana or wyoming had jobs for those people. they absolutely did, and those people added to the jobs and there were not people to do the jobs they were doing. all that is good stuff. i am just saying the change, the challenge makes people uncomfortable. i am wondering before we take them head-on if there is a way to talk to them. in an understanding way. last point. this is bigger than the immigration. because this is the republican pattern. create a fear that is not real, pass legislation that only harms other people, then the fear stopped because it never existed. and they think they won. they have done it with abortion, they have done it with lgbtq, trans people. there s kids who are pooping and cat boxes in schools! no, there isn t. if they were kids pooping in cat boxes in schools, high school kids would have put it on instagram. so, to me, it is a microcosm of the playbook and how do we dismantle that playbook to stop having that fear, and stopping the bs around it? we have to go to commercial, but i don t actually think you and steve disagree. i don t. no, i am not prioritizing the feelings of white so we do disagree. but i think that all steve is trying to say here is these people and their fears, he is not saying let s appeal to them. but if we simply ignore it then we are sending this people into trump s arms. we can practically see the statue of liberty when we walk outside this building. we are supposed to be a nation that welcomes immigrants. i mean, none of us were born here, right? but now we have this very hateful, xenophobic approach to a certain kind of immigrant. it is disgusting, and the notion that we should kowtow to the fears that have been grading these people. i am not saying you are kowtowing to anything, but if you don t at least speak to that person you are sending them into the arms of donald trump and going wild are that these people voting for donald trump? because they are getting it to work. and i am not saying they should be coddled. i am saying shouldn t we at least acknowledge them and get a basis of truth back to the center? this is part of what we are talking about when the new york times does what is going on in the world? we ask trump voters. they don t care, we don t care what they think. we don t have to be constantly checking in with what they think. i also think it is the responsibility of white people to educate white people. it should not be placed on lichen brown people and immigrants. i would like to know what it would take to achieve the persuasion that immigrants are not so scary. i would like a practical proposal before i decide to sort of center the feelings of people who are fed lies. what if you didn t reject the fears? and by the way, i am wanting to correct the record. i m not talking about coddling the fears of white people. i feel like there 20 a black and brown people concerned about immigrants coming over the border, taking their jobs. no one is taking anyone s jobs, we have a labor shortage. you have been there could be a rainbow coalition of people who believe that there isn t. i think we acknowledge the people have a right to have fear and be concerned, and not dismiss those fears. besides the four of you, someone else is screaming at me and it is the producers. we have to go to a commercial. there s five people yelling. when we return, the last four years have been great for the wealthiest americans. so i want to know why so many of the richest of the rich are opening their wallets, their hearts, their minds, and buying into his propaganda and pushing donald trump. i need some answers to this. and later, phenom caitlin clark gets hip checked and starts a bigger conversation about women s basketball when our nightcap and the 11th hour continues. s. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: marnina learned that most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. if you have hepatitis b, don t stop dovato without talking to your doctor. don t take dovato if you re allergic to its ingredients or taking dofetilide. this can cause serious or life-threatening side effects. if you have a rash or allergic reaction symptoms, stop dovato and get medical help right away. serious or life-threatening lactic acid buildup and liver problems can occur. tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems, or if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. dovato may harm an unborn baby. most common side effects are headache, nausea, diarrhea, trouble sleeping, tiredness, and anxiety. detect this: you could stay undetectable with fewer medicines. ask your doctor about dovato. craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office. you could stay undetectable with fewer medicines. [ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg s moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don s paying so much for at&t, he s been waiting to update his equipment! there s a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don t have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. in the week since donald trump was found guilty of 34 counts in a new york courtroom, some of the wealthiest americans have come out to announce their support for him. steve, i really, really want to talk about this. because just in the last week donald trump has this new crop of not even your average wall street is disguised. i mean the top of the top most successful. coming out, throwing parties for him, supporting him, and even making arguments that are not true. in the last 24 hours i have heard some of these guys say well, when joe biden asked that last covid relief, which, you know, killed us in terms of inflation. unemployment had already completely recovered. that is a lie. and an uninformed voter might not realize that. but i am talking about the most informed voters, the most successful guys in business are pushing trump lies on their, in a field that is their own expertise. why is this? the corporate tax cuts are going to be on the table in 2025. if you end up supporting trump you are most likely to keep those corporate tax cuts and lower tax brackets, because, by the way, i don t think trump is going to address the deficit at all, either. the record shows that perhaps some of the fiscal spending had a part in the inflation, but it was more about supply shocks, the inability to get stuff into the country, the reduction in the ability to spend on services, so all this money to buy patio furniture and stuff like that, all of the sudden that shot up and all of a sudden we had problems with some food distribution. and that has come off in a very big way. there has been extraordinary progress on the inflation rate but has not brought down the inflation level. and don t overstated, biden has plenty of very, very wealthy supporters. but you are right to point out how extraordinary it is that some of these folks, especially in tech land, are the ones who are out there saying i am going to vote for trump or support trump. and to read, for example, david sachs tweet today on the economy is just to be amazed that a guy with that much money . here s the thing. i get that inflation is difficult. these people who are now supporting donald trump have had extraordinary, extraordinary last few years. bill ackman this week, what is it announced? he is worth $8 million. think of everything president biden has done for electric vehicles. a huge win for elon musk. yet they are railing against this disastrous economy, when it has been a perfect one for them. i think, first off, taxes, let s start with that. and then get to realizing that for these guys, in silicon valley especially, shame feels like a market inefficiency. wait, hold on, if i don t have to care about the judgments of people who are paying attention to the news, maybe i can do the thing that donald trump offers uniquely, in my memory, of american presidents. which is the ability to dictate actual policy. the ability to get favors. i feel like this is the other part of the trump administration that goes underrated because we are talking about the bed of nails that is every single scandal. he is for sale. look at the adelson family. go down the risk of donors and what you get. if you are tech billionaire, ceo, philosopher, king. that is what these guys want to be. they know better. they may think trump is an idiot, and i think they do, but they also think they can puppeteer hemenway s, and they can help run the country. and that is something that joe biden does not offer them. the white house is for sale. and in some way, is this like re-creating putin s oligarchs, but here? you know, i have been listening to you, and i can t believe we are here, again. and a real chance that he might win. and something i ve read the criminologist talk about, the reason why jail does not work as a deterrent. because a lot of people do a stint in prison and they come out and they go oh, i can do that. now i m going to go back to the street, because that wasn t that bad. and for a lot of people they are like we survived trump. it wasn t that bad. covid does not count on his record, for some reason. and they are like we could do this again. and it doesn t make any sense. and i get a footnote to the oligarch story? a lot of those guys ended up exiled and dead. i don t know that all the people who are supporting trump understand the final end result of kleptocracy. okay, because you are asking for people to have something beyond short-term. it works for a little bit. but, see, we are talking about hugely successful masters of the universe who believe well, that will never happen to me. you know that is the way they all think. i think that is right. they re not thinking it through. i think they are also missing, getting back to the first conversation we had, the essential connection between democracy and free markets. what makes free markets work is the rule of law, and if the rule of law is something that is on the whim of the president you have a real problem with your free markets. lizz, let s talk about sort of these loud, influential voices were suddenly backing former president trump. why they would be doing it. i understand, inflation is a really difficult. you want to buy a house, rent an apartment, get any insurance, things are really difficult. but suddenly this group of people backing the former president, it does not really make sense from a policy perspective. why do you think it is happening? well, when you look at how many of them are feel adjacent, this is not my will house. but i d do see and have met and have been hit on by very, very, very rich and powerful men. and all those zeroes don t add inches, and somehow i think they do. and if that stays in the show i am proud of you. i promise you it will. because honestly, i don t have an answer. we are on life. is a family show until now. but honestly, what is the thing you are missing? what is the emotional thing you are missing? you are talking about the intellect of these individuals, and so much of it is about the performance of this analogy that trump offers, the ego. and if you have a massive ego, one of these masters of the universe, wall street, silicon valley, i completely understand why you rock with trump. because that ego seems to be like that is my guy, that s the guy want to be with. i am also just not convinced that they actually like him. that s correct, they don t. they think he is a puppet. i think that they are unbothered by the performance that trump does, which is a key, visceral distinction that i have with these people. but also, i think, what they want is power. trump offers them power. these guys right now believe they can purchase a bat phone into the oval office if donald trump wins. and it was funny, somebody on tv said to me the other day, yeah, but what if donald trump turns on them? what if he doesn t deliver than that? he might, though. and joe biden definitively will not. so they will roll the dice. i think we make a mistake in this country, that because you made a lot of money here you must be smart about things over here. we do it all the time on cnbc, and it is something that i disagree with. but like we will have a billionaire and asked him what he thinks about healthcare. and unless he made his billions in healthcare i am not really sure i care. it s a great point. it s interesting, but it is not essential. it is interesting as we talk , that the pronoun hymn has been used to bunch. because we ve been talking a bunch about men. and even when you said because they make money here they don t do it over there, when you think of somebody who is a billionaire, like the woman who invented spanks. sarah blakely. people are not going to sarah blakely, what do you think about what is going on over there? i don t anybody is asking these guys. these guys have realized they can become business celebrities. do you think somebody a year and half ago said what does bill ackman think about anything other than investing? no one asked him. but now he is posting tweets. it became a twitter personality. so the adrenaline addiction is real. they are all addicted to dealmaking, and now they have become business celebrities. this is a part of capitalism. the people who succeeded the most and capitalism must be the most intelligent people in the country. trump succeeded in capitalism. soon enough, he did not. he did! he took a big chunk of money from his dad. lost a bigger chunk. right, we think of him, he is so dumb. he is proof that you can be wealthy and done at the same time. is also not a successful business person. everyone is staying right here. when we return, fans love her. but caitlin clark is getting a mixed reception from the players in her first year of going pro. why one foul has people talking when the 11th hour in the nightcap continues. introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with 4 powerful pain-fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. - so this is pickleball? 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(vo) new and existing customers get iphone 15 on us when they trade in any iphone. verizon it s time to get away and cash in at cache creek casino resort. to rock and to roll. to go all out or go all in with four stars and rising stars. northern california s premier casino resort is the perfect place to do as much. or as little as you want. make your getaway now and cache in at cache creek casino resort. basketball star caitlin clark continues to crowd the spotlight as her wnba career kicks off. but it is a foul against her from nearly a week ago that is still in the headlines. pablo, she got body checked by another player. so why are people still talking about it? walk us through what happened in the line of all these new threads. on some level it is a simple story. it was a hard foul, should have been called a flagrant. wasn t, had to be assessed as such retroactively. but the reason it has continued is because it fits into this larger story, which is less and less about caitlin clark, and is a through line for today s show, perhaps, and more and more about us, the voters, so to speak. because it is a perfect culture war story. uninformed voters versus informed voters. and it is about vibes. so i want to address the feelings, because these are sincerely held. it is more than just the great white hope. it is more than just a minority group in this sport actually being a majority outside of it. wnba famously is 60% black women. so you have this star who is bringing attention, record ratings, real business for the first time in the history of the sport. and simultaneous to that you have a lot of people who pre- existed in this sport, who built this sport, who are saying we have not felt the advantages of being the majority group in a business that now everybody cares about. and so, a lot of people have a point, is my point here. caitlin clark is a great player. she deserves the conversation and the height and the attention and the money. and at the same time, those are advantages that are not granted to others because there is a novelty, as well as the substance to it. it is an endless culture war story which everyone can get mad at everyone for a very long time. i think i feel also the resentment of the women who are already there, who are like oh, you think this college kid is going to come in and dominate us? and at the time it seemed you guys are being rude and resentful. and no, actually, it is very hard to move from college to the pros in any sport, even if you are, maybe, one of the best, the best college players ever. we are going to do this entirely differently. we are stronger, faster, more experienced. it is going to be hard for you. so slow down, don t think you re going to walk in and take over. i have nothing to say. remember how i said that i didn t think rich people should be talking about healthcare? i am pretty sure the economics reporter should not be talking about sports. but how is there so much confusion here? suddenly the wnba has all these new fans, and they are watching a game. a game, a rough game that is played year after year. but suddenly the first game they have ever seen, the player who they love, they are seeing get pushed around and they are going, i mean, there was a republican lawmaker who was complaining about this. where you are going this is just how the game is played. yeah, would they feel that way if it was angel reese who got knocked to the ground like that? no. she did get knocked to the ground like that, and nobody cared. this is the other part of the story. sports are supposed to be fueled by hatred. by bad blood. by feuding. this is stuff that is great. part of the reason why i want to buy stock, business metaphor, buy stock in the nba is because people are actually invested in it emotionally, and that comes from having bad blood. the thing that is dystopian, lizz, which movie you can appreciate on this level, too. i love dystopian. yes, we are talking not so much about the story, and more about how everybody hates everybody else because they see themselves in it. and for me it becomes a culture war story, and when i say it is an endless forever war of a culture war story i mean it is because, in sports, we are still arguing about whether lebron james or michael jordan is better. we have been doing that for decades upon decades. some precincts have been reporting that it is jordan. but the point is this is not a thing that can be solved this positively by play. it is going to be, again, about how you feel. and being a minority group in a majority female, black sport that outside of that sport affords you advantages that track with the money and the attention and the privilege, it is like it is fair to object to all of this and it is fair to also say you are making too much of it, because isn t she just a basketball player? and this i will also say. i think it is also fair to say that caitlin clark knows the game that caitlin clark is in. caitlin clark is not saying anything. it is like taylor swift, when the whole taylor swift beyonce feud was happening, they were both like there ain t no feud. this happens in this sport. i just feel like caitlin clark is not screaming. there is a whole lot of pundits speaking, there is a whole lot of things. and what you said is real. the pundit point is important. because race is always a part of sports, we don t always talk about it, but it is always there. and not just what happens on the floor, but also because the vast majority of people who cover sports are white, and male , and generally they are covering, especially in basketball, covering a lot of black people. so, in this situation you see the white girl who is supposed to be the new star, who is changing everything, and she gets thrown to the ground by somebody. the white pundits especially are like oh my god, how could you do that to her? but it is not just about race. it is a lot about the fact that these sports analysts are men. as i have seen black sports analysts this week go on and on, shocked by this saying these girls out there are being mean girls to each other. in the same sports analysts watch football year after year, they watch rookies get the crap kicked out of them going that is on the game is played. but when it comes to women doing it they are like look at these mean girls up in here. and that is bull nonsense. and i agree with you. overwhelmingly it is not that the rest of the wnba is jealous and deceiving like this is a high school cafeteria over caitlin clark. but there are a couple of people who feel that way. if you were to tell me watch this clip of angel reese celebrating caitlin clark falling to the ground i can t convince you objectively that she is not taking some enjoyment. now, does that rise to the level of jealousy and mean girl stuff? i am not going to categorize it as such. but i believe in that he and bad blood can coexist. it is just a we over characterize it as this is a sport where this should not happen, all sports are fueled by this. this is my observation. i want to know if this is true. is less contact countenanced in the wnba than the nba? is even more physical. we have to take a commercial. it s more physical? yes. does ladies know how to get it done. what i want to know is all this talk about the wnba, is it helping the game? we don t know yet. everybody is staying put. when we come back are nightcap returns with our mvps of the week. you do not want to miss it when the nightcap continues. e night kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from growing and has been proven to help people live significantly longer across three separate clinical trials. so, i have the confidence to live my life. kisqali can cause lung problems or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems, and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. avoid grapefruit during treatment. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness, yellowing of the skin or eyes, dark urine, tiredness, loss of appetite, abdomen pain, bleeding, bruising, fever, chills, or other symptoms of an infection, a severe or worsening rash, are or plan to become pregnant, or breastfeeding. long live life and long live you. ask your doctor about kisqali today. welcome to the wayborhood. and long live you. with wayfair, finding your style is fun. 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i wanted to go in a different direction. corey harris, who became viral out of driving to his resume hearing about driving with a suspended license. hold on, walk us through. because people are not going to know this name but everyone saw this video. he drove to his resume hearing with the judge on his suspended license hearing. and everybody is like oh my god, what an idiot. and surely he made some bad decisions. and it came out that he has actually never had a driver s license. but the end result of all of this is that he ended up in jail for a nonviolent offense. he was not even intending to hurt anyone, and it is easy to look at an individual and say you should have behaved differently. more important to look at the systems and the institutions and say you should behave differently. why are we using jail as a corrective for something like this? a nonviolent offense like this? we are over incarcerating nonviolent offenders way too much in this country. and this is a prime example of somebody who should not be in jail. there are many, many other ways to make the situation work. cindy eldon is the clerk for esmeralda county in nevada. and she is undergoing a withering criticism at a recall petition. she is a republican from supporter, and there are people in that county the believe that there was problems with the election because trump only one of the county of about 700 people by 82%. and this wonderful story in the new york times about this clerk who is being criticized by her neighbors and all the people she has known for life is a reminder that democracy is not a mountain. it is not a building. it exists because of local officials, and the reason why the 2020 election was not overturned is because of these actions by these local officials . these people, i think, democrats, republicans, non- partisans all our heroes that make democracy still exist in this country, and don t take it for granted. and i am on a bipartisan crusade of my own. good luck with that. red panda is somebody that you may know if you have seen a basketball game. she happens to be the greatest halftime performer of all time. red panda is the older chinese woman and immigrant to this country who gets on a unicycle, elevated many feet in the air, balances holes on her foot, and kicks them off to her head repeatedly. and the crusade i launch after watching her perform in game one of the nba finals yesterday is simply this. at the basketball hall of fame has never inducted a halftime performer. it should be red panda, and i want to address america, the world, on my various social media platforms i have a change.org petition. this is a real thing. all of you guys at this table need to sign it. i am begging you. we need to demonstrate that this person, read anda, is a part of history and should be remembered to me as such. right on. we are ready to sign it. my mvp, the families from the sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. if you remember, talkshow host alex jones spread lie after lie of what happened in that elementary school in connecticut. the families of those children, those five and six-year-old children who were killed sued this man for defamation and they won nearly $1.5 billion in damages. but all sorts of cynics out there, me included, thought they are never going to see the money. a guy like this is going to move his assets, put them under family members names or friends, it will never happen. on thursday, yesterday, alex jones filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy, basically liquidating all of his assets. why? 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