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the 2020 federal election interference case. emphasis on voluntary. good morning to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm kasie hunt. it's wednesday, january 10th. it's 5:00 a.m. in washington. it's 4:00 a.m. in des moines, where ron desantis and nikki haley will be one-on-one for the first time a at tonight's cnn debate. that debate is the candidate's last chance to face-off before the iowa caucuses in just five days. it remains part of the race for second place, and we'll be missing the front runner, donald trump, who is skipping the event to be part of a fox...

tonight on three 60, can the president get away with murder? that question in the chilling answer got a court today is the former president makes a case for presidential immunity and raises the specter of criminal impunity. also tonight, the grandmother who bought the election lie, does she still believe it going into her first night of a five year sentence? and later, meet the man who has found a airliners missing door plug in his own back yard. his find could help find experts find out what severely damaged airlines flight. -- that nothing a president doesn't office can be criminal...

ac 360 starts now. tonight on 360, can a president get away with murder? that question and the chilling answer in court today as the former president makes a case for presidential immunity and raises the spector of criminal impunity. also tonight the grandmother that bought the election lie. does she still believe it going into her first night? and the man that found an airliner's missing door plug in his own backyard. his find could help investigators find out what severely damaged the flight. thanks for joining us. we begin with the former president's striking claim in cour...

adviser to mike pence. in advance of that life testimony, nbc news has obtained exclusive new video ahead of today's hearing. highlighting how the events of the 6th were only the end of a pressure campaign against mike pence to overturn the election results that began much earlier with pence consistently pushing back according to testimony from his chief of staff mark short. >> was it your impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president not just to the world, through a deer colleague letter, but directly to president trump? >> ma...

>> the committee scared new video from mark short saying pence pushed back against trump's pressure campaign. >> was it your impression the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president, not just to the world, through a dear colleague letter, but directly to president trump? >> many times. >> and had been consistent in conveying his position to the president? >> very consistent. >> joining us now, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, nbc news correspondent vaughn hilliard, luke broadwater from "the new york times" and joyce va...