you have a problem. it doesn't tell you what the solution should be. each time the president has put forward this -- a version of this solution or the democrats, the american people have said no. >> david, do you -- >> abortion is easy, bill, because no public funds will be used to pay for abortions. that's been the law for 33 years. that's -- that's the law. >> why won't bart stupak -- why won't part stupak support it? >> increase access to 31 million americans. >> okay. okay. >> we are paying -- >> your argument is with bart stupak. >> you and i are paying $1,000 more in health insurance costs each year because of uncompensated care. >> no chance to respond. okay. >> hopefully mr. stupak, bill, will agree with ms. pelosi and members of the senate that this bill will not allow public funds to be used for abortions. >> well, we will see. i mean, we will see. you know, if i had to bet, i would say probably he will be able to get this through, only with democrat votes. i think it's bad policy to do that. i also think it's going to be very bad politics because of the opposition. the thing that's been tainted in the process with the louisiana purchase, with the cornhusker kickback, you have got these corruption stories coming out on