>> secretary clinton. >> yeah. humor right there. >> you're saying he wasn't being serious? >> i'm saying he used that line. it was humor to illustrate the point. and the point is as with the e-mails -- i mean, how many -- >> so he thought she was innocent of anything wrong with e-mails? >> how many stories have we seen, jake, in the last two weeks about destruction of computers, special privileges, the president -- president clinton gets on the plane -- >> i love -- you guys know i love jeffrey lord. i do. i'm not joking. >> here we go. >> and i greatly appreciate -- >> this is a clearing of the throat. >> this is it. >> jake, you may want to get out of the way. >> but the idea that you are threatening to prosecute your opponent is as best i can tell unprecedented in american history. and i will say this. you don't appoint a prosecutor to investigate. you appoint a prosecutor to lay the groundwork to put somebody in jail. and here's the problem i have with the whole thing. >> but -- >> hold on a second. here's the problem i have with the whole thing. look, we do have a criminal