you how it works, because he's the guy behind this. and i think a lot of people in our conference agree with the idea that we need a debt backstop. i think a lot of people in our conference, if we repeal the individual mandate, would like to see the subsidy payments made to make sure the insurance market stays stable until we can actually address obamacare. i think most people blooeelievet we can do better than president obama when it comes to this economy, this tax bill is good, we'll have a backstop, continuing the subsidies that will replace obamacare with something better makes sense. >> so i want to be precise, senator. the corporate rates, you don't think would go back up. right now they want to reduce the corporate rate from 35% to 20%. and that's permanent. there's no sunset. there's no time limit. individual families, they would have a reduction in tax rates, but that would be sunseted after ten years or so. why not sunset the corporate rates as opposed to the individual family rates? >> well, the point that senator