ford. that's why they don't come forward. it's a message i would say, not a good one. >> do you think if professor ford had given a statement with the same amount of anger or indignation, the same amount of, you know, tremor in her voice or tears, that it would be responded to in the same way that it was when judge kavanaugh did it? >> i think a lot of people responded to her honesty, and she said she was really afraid when she came to testify. this is not what she does. meanwhile, you have a judge, that has the president and everyone else coaching him and everything else. please. she was very effective in her honesty. as far as judge kavanaugh, i have major issues regarding his credibility on a lot of cases i asked him about. just as he misrepresented and misstated what the witnesses said, he's also misstated cases, the issues of the case.