replaced by independent contractors. while union membership declined since the 1980s. that's another thing i add. it's been basically bite of my career goal as attorney general and governor. something we have to do if we're going to make washington work again. >> some of the other democratic contenders are advocating for free college tuition but not you. do you see it as an unrealistic position? >> i think we've got to make sure college is affordable and accessible for everyone. that's why montana has the fourth lowest tuition and fees in the country and that didn't happen by accident. it happened by us investing state dollars along the way. we know if you're in the bottom 20% of sort of economic wealth