according to our source. he put it this way. appears he came back and , aú?@@.g fairly tragic situation here. we're talking about this occurred, looks like the initial crime scene, and again, it is murky, 10 west 33rd street. that is west of 5th avenue. and then there was a second crime scene and 34th and fifth. obviously multiple people were shot. we know at least two people are dead, a male in his 40s, apparently according to our sources was shot as well. jamie: charlie, we'll let you get back on the phone. meantime we're hearing from people on the ground and witnesses, not only a fox employee who spoke to us earlier but bill, you have more. bill: you can imagine. there are hundreds if not perhaps thousands of eyewitnesses to this scene at 9:00 in the morning. reported4x at peak that this intersection of new york city you could have as many as 10,000 people cross that sidewalk in just this part of the city.