this country. i think you would agree. i don't think we are better off after eight years of that. i was somebody who actually really did believe in 2008 that the good that would come out of -- i didn't support him and wouldn't have voted for him but the good that could have come out of it would've been some amelioration of that. >> juan: day now, kim kardashian has worked with the president and gotten a woman, alice johnson, released from prison. she was there on a low-level drug crime. >> dana: as jesse pointed out, it wasn't that low level. did she deserve this clemency? i think so. jimmy kimmel said there's other people on the list, like matthew charles, who was wrongly imprisoned. that case is before the justice department. hopefully we'll get some attention. i think she has the right idea witches if you've been an issue and you want somebody powerful to help you solve it, you can