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to rate people on all sorts of criteria whether there's legacies, athletes, gender, race, ethnicity, personality, but the fact remains that there's this law and there's been the whole series of supreme court cases trying to figure out whether admission should be race neutral or race conscious in admissions. paul: but if they can show, the court, bill, that race is just a factor, just one of many, not the decisive factor and the supreme court has said, some with ambiguous fashion, you can't make race the decisive factor, they might prevail? >> they might although i think and supreme court rulings going back to alan have been mirky thing, can be a factor but don't draw lines where. this might be harder, with gap of sat scores so much blatant.

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