they are wanting william barr to break the law, as the department of justice attorney general of the united states america. he is not complying because he's following the law. it's all political theater to get this narrative out there, because the new investigation didn't go the way they wanted to go, so they will keep dragging on these investigations and subpoenas. >> harris: two things help me want to break the cycle of the talking points that people are in right now. one, congress could change the law with regard to grand jury testimony. and everybody can see everything. is there any world in which that could happen? it would take both bodies. >> and who would want that -- what person would be a part of a grand jury and what person would give testimony knowing -- >> harris: in the future? >> yeah, in the future nobody would do that. >> harris: the other thing has to do, just simply, with moving forward in all of this and what gets missed if you are focused on this. democrats say they can walk and