rick perry's on the air here all the time -- >> but rick perry doesn't have the brains to be president. he doesn't have -- >> gingrich will get part of that vote. >> he doesn't have the bases -- >> we're talking metrics here. and other candidates will be splitting up that vote. >> what's the appeal? >> the appeal of rick perry? that he seems to be a decent guy, to the evangelicals, he seems to be a decent guy with his heart in the right place, even if he doesn't have -- >> upstairs. >> the rest of it. >> he's a nation senior governor of a big state. >> but texas. just kidding! i was going to say liberals, but that would be pushing it. anyway, thank you susan. you know these -- how many of these have you covered? >> this is my ninth caucuses. >> we are brigadoon characters, aren't? coming up, why don't evangelical voters get in line behind one candidate? i don't know why we're encouraging this, but if they get behind santorum instead of splitting their vote between perri, bachmann, gingrich and the rest of them, they won't