so what ends up happening is not only can't we pass the legislation we want, we can't even have the debate for the american people to understand who is on which side. so to me, yeah, i share harkin's views. i am tired of it. i don't mind losing. sometimes you're not going to get 50 votes. but i am damn tired of seeing us not even being able to go forward on a debate on issues of enormous concern to this country. >> what is harry reid afraid of, if your opinion? what is it? >> i can't speak, i really can't speak for reid, and i don't know. i think the bottom line is i suspect that he believes that we do not have the 51 votes that we'll need for the constitutional option. what many of us believe on the first day, and we've extended that, it is still the first day, that we can write new rules. that with 51 votes, we can say that we can have a talking filibuster. if you want to oppose a bill if you want 60 votes, you get on