two do listening tours in iowa. act as if -- not only act, but get feedback from the people all across the country. those are the things that made her successful. >> you're looking at her right now. that's the hillary clinton i know. that woman right there. regular person, laughing, enjoying life, being a normal person. she has to find -- a pretty great tweet. a knock at fox. i wish she would like a lot of candidates in the past would find a way to get across to tv camera. it's a hard thing. bill clinton could do it. she hasn't been able to do it. >> what she did in person in 2008, i was telling you this camera off camera in marching in the pittsburgh and scranton st. patty's day parade. you would have thought she was a rock star. women were screaming for her, begging for her to come over and sign their books. that's the difference. >> the hardest thing is to get through the tv screen to be the person for people to get to know. thank you, joan walsh, as always. thank you, ed rendell, governor. we'll be right back after this.
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