ones that pressured the president into getting the last one over with, they do not want another shutdown. democrats don't want another shutdown. they never have. so that reality is different than the last time around. however, we are at an impasse that is over something that is different than where we were last time, that the barrier/wall issue had almost been resolved. richard shelby when he talked to reporters thursday said the white house gave him some flexibility to work around that, and democrats seemed willing to build some barriers. this time it's this detention bed issue. i think what we're wait to find out is whether democrats potentially overplayed their hand and lost some higher ground here. >> my god, this is a complicated issue. kasie, you have your work cut out for you on this one. thank you. >> we do. thanks, guys. >> president trump is headed to el paso, texas, tonight, he's taking a pitch -- his pitch for a hard line stand on the wall to the people at the border. he's going to have to deal with