like the financial times did in 2019, very unlikely. and by the way, it did take five years to get there, to the kremlin for the post—midnight meeting. and when you did get there, what did you talk about? we talked about everything from the failed assassination of sergei skripal, which he dismissed, mr putin. asa as a story worth not much. to the relations with china, the intervention in syria and, notably, two stories that came out. one was when he declared under questioning the idea that liberalism, the idea, he said it was obsolete. he really felt the west was in decline, decadent, preoccupied by secondary questions of genderfluidity. and he also said that his risk appetite had gone up, basically,