called bookbanbusters.com. you can go there and see the books that are banned, the books that are considered being banned in your area or all over the nation. and more importantly, and i think this is the key thing, bianna, we are training moms to do something about it, counter this, to equip themselves with information. we have what we call trouble -- an online training which is how to make good trouble. in the spirit of john lewis, how to go out and make a difference at a grassroots level. i think that's where we can gain control and help in this area. >> given, as you describe this, as a grassroots program, an organic program to talk to moms and to teach them how to respond, to counter what they're hearing at school board meetings across the country, do you get a sense that there is surprise that this topic is as divisive